CDZ A question about Trump and gun control

[miketx]

It looks like from what i see on the internet and here that most liberals and democrats dislike Donald Trump. In the extreme. They even go so far as to compare him to Adolf Hitler and claim that Trump is going to turn our country into the same kind of hell hole that Hitler did Germany. Now that being said it also appears from what I see here and on the internet that most if not all liberals and democrats what more gun control. Now my question: What's the matter with them? If Trump is Hitler or turning into Hitler, and you all know how Hitler used gun control against the Jews and others and easily murdered millions, why on Earth would you want to disarm everyone and make them face another Hitler defenseless? That does not make any sense at all! Seriously asking, although I don't I'll get any serious answer form liberals on this as it seems to contradict logic.

 

[TNHarley]

I think you are giving them too much credit.
This shit isnt thought out. Its blurted out. Knee jerk reaction.

 

[miketx]

I think you are giving them too much credit.
This shit isnt thought out. Its blurted out. Knee jerk reaction.

Well it would seem that maybe you are right, but it just don't make any sense to want to disarm us when they are so certain we have a monster in the making. Maybe it is just a simple minded reaction to something they cannot control.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Donald John Trump is as much like Hitler as George W. Bush was when he was President...

My point?

Individuals that are radical in thought describe the opposition party leadership as being like Nazis so it can get their shrinking base upset and put to vote, but for the rest like you and I, well hopefully you see how insane they are and just brush it off...

 

[Asclepias]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

 

[miketx]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

 

[Asclepias]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

Well its complicated. There should be gun control. We cant have people armed with .50 Cals and M60's roaming the streets The problem is that it wont stop bad stuff from happening it will only make it more difficult. I'm from the hood and I know how easy it is to get a gun on the streets. I've known cops that will sell you a gun they jacked off some drug dealer. Gun control should be a start not a fix all solution. The problem is where and how do we start? in some imaginary world where you could take all the guns from the legal owners it would leave them defenseless against the criminals that ignore the laws anyway. In that same imaginary world how are you going to get criminals to turn in their guns? I know the culture is going to have to change. Not specifically the gun culture but the white american culture of violence. White people worship, celebrate, and commend violence but pretend they are appalled by it. Everyone sees this but white people it seems. Then they wonder why other racial groups begin to emulate those same people whites idolize like the mafia. After the culture is changed we then have to deal with the pychos. I'm guessing there simply is no way to stop them from shooting people unless gun manufacturing is made illegal as well.

 

[hadit]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

Well its complicated. There should be gun control. We cant have people armed with .50 Cals and M60's roaming the streets The problem is that it wont stop bad stuff from happening it will only make it more difficult. I'm from the hood and I know how easy it is to get a gun on the streets. I've known cops that will sell you a gun they jacked off some drug dealer. Gun control should be a start not a fix all solution. The problem is where and how do we start? in some imaginary world where you could take all the guns from the legal owners it would leave them defenseless against the criminals that ignore the laws anyway. In that same imaginary world how are you going to get criminals to turn in their guns? I know the culture is going to have to change. Not specifically the gun culture but the white american culture of violence. White people worship, celebrate, and commend violence but pretend they are appalled by it. Everyone sees this but white people it seems. Then they wonder why other racial groups begin to emulate those same people whites idolize like the mafia. After the culture is changed we then have to deal with the pychos. I'm guessing there simply is no way to stop them from shooting people unless gun manufacturing is made illegal as well.

Still trying to blame the white guy? You said yourself that it's easy to get a gun in the hood. Are these law abiding citizens providing the guns, complete with background checks? Now, where do most gun murders happen and who is usually pulling the trigger? Be honest.


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[miketx]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

Well its complicated. There should be gun control. We cant have people armed with .50 Cals and M60's roaming the streets The problem is that it wont stop bad stuff from happening it will only make it more difficult. I'm from the hood and I know how easy it is to get a gun on the streets. I've known cops that will sell you a gun they jacked off some drug dealer. Gun control should be a start not a fix all solution. The problem is where and how do we start? in some imaginary world where you could take all the guns from the legal owners it would leave them defenseless against the criminals that ignore the laws anyway. In that same imaginary world how are you going to get criminals to turn in their guns? I know the culture is going to have to change. Not specifically the gun culture but the white american culture of violence. White people worship, celebrate, and commend violence but pretend they are appalled by it. Everyone sees this but white people it seems. Then they wonder why other racial groups begin to emulate those same people whites idolize like the mafia. After the culture is changed we then have to deal with the pychos. I'm guessing there simply is no way to stop them from shooting people unless gun manufacturing is made illegal as well.

Thanks for your comment but now that you've changed this into a white hating rant ignoring other races gun crimes, I suspect I'm done with you, and should have known better than try to have civil debate with you. Take care.

 

[TNHarley]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

Well its complicated. There should be gun control. We cant have people armed with .50 Cals and M60's roaming the streets The problem is that it wont stop bad stuff from happening it will only make it more difficult. I'm from the hood and I know how easy it is to get a gun on the streets. I've known cops that will sell you a gun they jacked off some drug dealer. Gun control should be a start not a fix all solution. The problem is where and how do we start? in some imaginary world where you could take all the guns from the legal owners it would leave them defenseless against the criminals that ignore the laws anyway. In that same imaginary world how are you going to get criminals to turn in their guns? I know the culture is going to have to change. Not specifically the gun culture but the white american culture of violence. White people worship, celebrate, and commend violence but pretend they are appalled by it. Everyone sees this but white people it seems. Then they wonder why other racial groups begin to emulate those same people whites idolize like the mafia. After the culture is changed we then have to deal with the pychos. I'm guessing there simply is no way to stop them from shooting people unless gun manufacturing is made illegal as well.

I was with you until you blamed all our problems on white people.
I guess people are violent all over the world because of whites...

 

[Asclepias]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

Well its complicated. There should be gun control. We cant have people armed with .50 Cals and M60's roaming the streets The problem is that it wont stop bad stuff from happening it will only make it more difficult. I'm from the hood and I know how easy it is to get a gun on the streets. I've known cops that will sell you a gun they jacked off some drug dealer. Gun control should be a start not a fix all solution. The problem is where and how do we start? in some imaginary world where you could take all the guns from the legal owners it would leave them defenseless against the criminals that ignore the laws anyway. In that same imaginary world how are you going to get criminals to turn in their guns? I know the culture is going to have to change. Not specifically the gun culture but the white american culture of violence. White people worship, celebrate, and commend violence but pretend they are appalled by it. Everyone sees this but white people it seems. Then they wonder why other racial groups begin to emulate those same people whites idolize like the mafia. After the culture is changed we then have to deal with the pychos. I'm guessing there simply is no way to stop them from shooting people unless gun manufacturing is made illegal as well.

Still trying to blame the white guy? You said yourself that it's easy to get a gun in the hood. Are these law abiding citizens providing the guns, complete with background checks? Now, where do most gun murders happen and who is usually pulling the trigger? Be honest.


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Of course I'm blaming the white man. Even though they werent the ones to invent guns this is the closest thing they have done that ranks as an invention. Whites specialize in violence. They document it and pat each other on the back about it. When you can show me a Black gun maker that supplies guns to the people in the hood let me know. Just like drugs these guns are brought in by whites, sold buy whites, and resold by whites.

 

[miketx]

Well, we have major derailment here.

 

[Asclepias]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

Well its complicated. There should be gun control. We cant have people armed with .50 Cals and M60's roaming the streets The problem is that it wont stop bad stuff from happening it will only make it more difficult. I'm from the hood and I know how easy it is to get a gun on the streets. I've known cops that will sell you a gun they jacked off some drug dealer. Gun control should be a start not a fix all solution. The problem is where and how do we start? in some imaginary world where you could take all the guns from the legal owners it would leave them defenseless against the criminals that ignore the laws anyway. In that same imaginary world how are you going to get criminals to turn in their guns? I know the culture is going to have to change. Not specifically the gun culture but the white american culture of violence. White people worship, celebrate, and commend violence but pretend they are appalled by it. Everyone sees this but white people it seems. Then they wonder why other racial groups begin to emulate those same people whites idolize like the mafia. After the culture is changed we then have to deal with the pychos. I'm guessing there simply is no way to stop them from shooting people unless gun manufacturing is made illegal as well.

I was with you until you blamed all our problems on white people.
I guess people are violent all over the world because of whites...

All people have some violence however you can plainly see the violence has escalated due to white influence. Take a look in the mirror. Check your heroes. They were all violent.

 

[Asclepias]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

Well its complicated. There should be gun control. We cant have people armed with .50 Cals and M60's roaming the streets The problem is that it wont stop bad stuff from happening it will only make it more difficult. I'm from the hood and I know how easy it is to get a gun on the streets. I've known cops that will sell you a gun they jacked off some drug dealer. Gun control should be a start not a fix all solution. The problem is where and how do we start? in some imaginary world where you could take all the guns from the legal owners it would leave them defenseless against the criminals that ignore the laws anyway. In that same imaginary world how are you going to get criminals to turn in their guns? I know the culture is going to have to change. Not specifically the gun culture but the white american culture of violence. White people worship, celebrate, and commend violence but pretend they are appalled by it. Everyone sees this but white people it seems. Then they wonder why other racial groups begin to emulate those same people whites idolize like the mafia. After the culture is changed we then have to deal with the pychos. I'm guessing there simply is no way to stop them from shooting people unless gun manufacturing is made illegal as well.

Thanks for your comment but now that you've changed this into a white hating rant ignoring other races gun crimes, I suspect I'm done with you, and should have known better than try to have civil debate with you. Take care.

You dont have to focus on the race part of it. I just stated my opinion of the culture of violence whites have groomed and celebrated for centuries here in the US. Now if you are going to claim they didnt thats for another thread.

 

[Asclepias]

Well, we have major derailment here.

You white people seem to have a problem asking question and then dealing with the answer. No one told you to deny the racial aspect of my post. If your emotions caused you to pretend not to see the majority of my post thats your issue. If you deny a specific portion of my post I am going to address it.

 

[hadit]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

Well its complicated. There should be gun control. We cant have people armed with .50 Cals and M60's roaming the streets The problem is that it wont stop bad stuff from happening it will only make it more difficult. I'm from the hood and I know how easy it is to get a gun on the streets. I've known cops that will sell you a gun they jacked off some drug dealer. Gun control should be a start not a fix all solution. The problem is where and how do we start? in some imaginary world where you could take all the guns from the legal owners it would leave them defenseless against the criminals that ignore the laws anyway. In that same imaginary world how are you going to get criminals to turn in their guns? I know the culture is going to have to change. Not specifically the gun culture but the white american culture of violence. White people worship, celebrate, and commend violence but pretend they are appalled by it. Everyone sees this but white people it seems. Then they wonder why other racial groups begin to emulate those same people whites idolize like the mafia. After the culture is changed we then have to deal with the pychos. I'm guessing there simply is no way to stop them from shooting people unless gun manufacturing is made illegal as well.

Still trying to blame the white guy? You said yourself that it's easy to get a gun in the hood. Are these law abiding citizens providing the guns, complete with background checks? Now, where do most gun murders happen and who is usually pulling the trigger? Be honest.


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Of course I'm blaming the white man. Even though they werent the ones to invent guns this is the closest thing they have done that ranks as an invention. Whites specialize in violence. They document it and pat each other on the back about it. When you can show me a Black gun maker that supplies guns to the people in the hood let me know. Just like drugs these guns are brought in by whites, sold buy whites, and resold by whites.

Help us to understand here. Black thugs buy or steal guns that they then use to kill other black thugs and it's the white guy's fault for legally manufacturing the guns in the first place? Is it thus the real industry's fault when young black men impregnate multiple young women, treat them like worthless humans and abandon their children?

The gun manufacturer doesn't encourage the senseless slaughter of humans. The rapper encourages the young and impressionable to emulate what they see him doing in his videos and the way he treats the women in his life.


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[Asclepias]

I dont think Drumpf is going to turn the US into Hitlers germany. I just think hes an incompetent fool that will provoke more terrorist attacks. I'm a liberal and I own multiple weapons.

Do you really think we need more gun control? Because I certainly do not! It's been proven time and time again that no law will stop a determined mad man. Just like it's already against the law to murder, and that doesn't stop anyone, and drugs, they are illegal but that doesn't stop anyone.

Well its complicated. There should be gun control. We cant have people armed with .50 Cals and M60's roaming the streets The problem is that it wont stop bad stuff from happening it will only make it more difficult. I'm from the hood and I know how easy it is to get a gun on the streets. I've known cops that will sell you a gun they jacked off some drug dealer. Gun control should be a start not a fix all solution. The problem is where and how do we start? in some imaginary world where you could take all the guns from the legal owners it would leave them defenseless against the criminals that ignore the laws anyway. In that same imaginary world how are you going to get criminals to turn in their guns? I know the culture is going to have to change. Not specifically the gun culture but the white american culture of violence. White people worship, celebrate, and commend violence but pretend they are appalled by it. Everyone sees this but white people it seems. Then they wonder why other racial groups begin to emulate those same people whites idolize like the mafia. After the culture is changed we then have to deal with the pychos. I'm guessing there simply is no way to stop them from shooting people unless gun manufacturing is made illegal as well.

Still trying to blame the white guy? You said yourself that it's easy to get a gun in the hood. Are these law abiding citizens providing the guns, complete with background checks? Now, where do most gun murders happen and who is usually pulling the trigger? Be honest.


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Of course I'm blaming the white man. Even though they werent the ones to invent guns this is the closest thing they have done that ranks as an invention. Whites specialize in violence. They document it and pat each other on the back about it. When you can show me a Black gun maker that supplies guns to the people in the hood let me know. Just like drugs these guns are brought in by whites, sold buy whites, and resold by whites.

Help us to understand here. Black thugs buy or steal guns that they then use to kill other black thugs and it's the white guy's fault for legally manufacturing the guns in the first place? Is it thus the real industry's fault when young black men impregnate multiple young women, treat them like worthless humans and abandon their children?

The gun manufacturer doesn't encourage the senseless slaughter of humans. The rapper encourages the young and impressionable to emulate what they see him doing in his videos and the way he treats the women in his life.


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I cant put it any plainer than I already did. Whites produce guns. They glorify violence. They conduct mass shootings. They have organized crime war lords as heroes. Then they start selling their guns in the hood and Blacks emulate their organized crime structure.

Then whites make movies about Billy the Kid, Al Capone...video games like Assassins Creed, War Games, etc etc.

 

[alang1216]

Do you really think we need more gun control?

Does anyone really believe we don't need ANY gun control? If we do need gun control we should have control laws that keep guns away from crazies, criminals and kids. No laws will ever be perfect but does anyone disagree that this should be the goal?

 

[miketx]

Do you really think we need more gun control?

Does anyone really believe we don't need ANY gun control? If we do need gun control we should have control laws that keep guns away from crazies, criminals and kids. No laws will ever be perfect but does anyone disagree that this should be the goal?

All those things you say are already laws.

 

[alang1216]

Do you really think we need more gun control?

Does anyone really believe we don't need ANY gun control? If we do need gun control we should have control laws that keep guns away from crazies, criminals and kids. No laws will ever be perfect but does anyone disagree that this should be the goal?

All those things you say are already laws.

So we agree that gun control is essential? Are the current laws working?