A question about hamas to the pro pal lovers

[Beelzebub]

To be honest, who would we argue with? Its like trying to argue that North Korea was bad. Everyone would nod, sagely, then get very very bored.

Because you and the other anti-israel trash are intellectually lazy, and prefer an easier target: Israel.

You claim Israel is an easier target to condemn than North Korea?

I think we have a confession here guys.

 

[rhodescholar]

You claim Israel is an easier target to condemn than North Korea?

I think we have a confession here guys.

Not surprised you avoided my questions and points with a juvenile deflection, but then again, judging by your other responses and the treatment of you by the rest of the posters, you are devoid of intelligence or credibility; a strong ignore candidate.

 

[Beelzebub]

Hey Rhodes. I'm waaay ahead of you.
I have been pretty much ignoring you for weeks having read some of your hate filled spleen venting.

I didn't see your questions. I saw your confession, and that was enough. I don't think you directed your questions to me anyhow, as we don't really have a dialogue, do we?

You really are full of assumptions my dear.

 

[teddyearp]

I think we have a confession here guys.

Nothing of the sort. Your post is just another deflection as usual from the (paid?) anti-Israel crowd.

 

[teddyearp]

Yup, Rhodes, he is waaay ahead of you. On changing the subject. Detracting and derailing the thread. Not addressing your points nor actually addressing your OP. And of course, he didn't see your questions, because he doesn't have honest answers.

Basically he proves your point. As did many others in this thread.

They are not at all Pro-Palestinian. They are actually anti-Israel.

True story. Case closed.

Next?

p.s., thank you for this enlightening thread. I now know that for the most part most every one here who professes to be Pro-Palestinian is not at all so.

 

[rhodescholar]

I have been pretty much ignoring you for weeks having read some of your hate filled spleen venting.

Ignoring by responding to multiple posts in this thread alone...not only are you stupid, your mentally ill.

I saw your confession, and that was enough.

What confession was that, chimp? That you're a ******* idiot about to be ignored?

was t I don't think you directed your questions to me anyhow, as we don't really have a dialogue, do we?

No rational person here would give a **** what you say or have to offer, and your total inability to discuss pointed questions proves you're a weak-minded troll with nothing to offer. Ignored.

 

[Phoenall]

... You constantly demand that the Israeli's be wiped out .

No I don't.

Palestinians instigate it every time and then complain when Israel retaliates and kills Palestinian terrorists.

...

Link to Palestinians instigating it EVERY TIME please? From a non partizan source.

Here you go

History of the Israeli Palestinian conflict - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Hamas instigates further West Bank unrest - Al-Monitor the Pulse of the Middle East#

 

[Phoenall]

How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

 

[Phoenall]

So basically what you are saying is that Israel should never respond to violence and terrorism targeted at them because it is what you want ?

No Phoenall.

Tell me, just how disappointed are your family when they realise your greatest achievements are trolling your misunderstandings on the internet?

Then explain why it that when they do you are the first to cry foul and demand they be wiped out. The law is clear instigate a war and you will get hurt, does not matter what the reasons are. And hamas instigates war all the time so must suffer the consequences of their actions. There is no question that the Palestinians instigate the violence hoping that the deaths of alleged civilians will act as propaganda. You have wrote many times that Israel should not respond to the attacks because they are illegal immigrants and land thieves haven't you, so I will say it again as far as you are concerned Israel should not respond to Palestinian aggression, violence and terrorism because palestinians end up getting killed

Let me be clear Phoney.
I have NEVER demanded that your family be wiped out. Never. Not for a moment.

In fact, I don't believe I have ever called for ANYONE to be wiped out.
Though I would like to see the back of Fascism, whether Israel or Russian or Anglo Saxon, wiping people out is kind of fascistic itself, so not a preferred method.

Sometime Palestinians will initiate a round of violence. Sometime they are presented as such but have had intolerable incitement by others beforehand. I am not a pacifist, so can only take each instance on its merits, while wishing that Israel would not continually close the door to legal means of resolution (or corrupt those legal means) fair arbitration, or by equitable agreement, recognising that Israel really is a cuckoo in the Middle Eastern region, and should not demand rights and territory it withholds from others.

As to Palestinians getting killed: They are killed by Israelis, in the main. Israelis may accuse the victim of being at fault, but that is just a smoke screen. At every stage Israel has the choice to respond but to NOT kill civilians.

If those same civilians were Jewish, and it had the same military challenge to deal with it would take infinitely more care. Which is the litmus test.

Israel kills Palestinians innocents by choice. It is Israels fault. It is a war crime. They may anyway get away with it because of US and EU support. It doesn't change the fact that it is Israel's crime.

Who mentioned my family until you just did ? You constantly demand that the Israeli's be wiped out .

LINK to Israel being fascist, and from a non partisan source as well

Bullshit the Palestinians instigate it every time and then complain when Israel retaliates and kills Palestinian terrorists.

Where is your evidence of Israel closing the doors on legal means of resolution, and from a non partisan source.

Israel responds to violence and terrorism instigated by Palestinian "civilians" so of course they will be killed. When Israel responds to acts of war by the Palestinians the Palestinians surround their soldiers with "civilians" so they will be killed boosting the propaganda value.

Israel has no other options but to target the weapons of war used against them stationed illegally in civilian areas. Now if you read the Geneva conventions you will see that the aggressors, in this case hamas, is fully responsible for any civilian deaths resulting from return fire. So in the eyes of the LAW it is the P.A' s fault and it is the P.A's crime

The European Jews instigated the whole thing by migrating to Palestine with the intention of stealing the land from the local inhabitants.

How about a LINK from a non partisan source that says just this

 

[montelatici]

How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were killed by the Jews. Not by the Christian Arabs or Muslim Arabs.

No Phoenall.

Tell me, just how disappointed are your family when they realise your greatest achievements are trolling your misunderstandings on the internet?

Then explain why it that when they do you are the first to cry foul and demand they be wiped out. The law is clear instigate a war and you will get hurt, does not matter what the reasons are. And hamas instigates war all the time so must suffer the consequences of their actions. There is no question that the Palestinians instigate the violence hoping that the deaths of alleged civilians will act as propaganda. You have wrote many times that Israel should not respond to the attacks because they are illegal immigrants and land thieves haven't you, so I will say it again as far as you are concerned Israel should not respond to Palestinian aggression, violence and terrorism because palestinians end up getting killed

Let me be clear Phoney.
I have NEVER demanded that your family be wiped out. Never. Not for a moment.

In fact, I don't believe I have ever called for ANYONE to be wiped out.
Though I would like to see the back of Fascism, whether Israel or Russian or Anglo Saxon, wiping people out is kind of fascistic itself, so not a preferred method.

Sometime Palestinians will initiate a round of violence. Sometime they are presented as such but have had intolerable incitement by others beforehand. I am not a pacifist, so can only take each instance on its merits, while wishing that Israel would not continually close the door to legal means of resolution (or corrupt those legal means) fair arbitration, or by equitable agreement, recognising that Israel really is a cuckoo in the Middle Eastern region, and should not demand rights and territory it withholds from others.

As to Palestinians getting killed: They are killed by Israelis, in the main. Israelis may accuse the victim of being at fault, but that is just a smoke screen. At every stage Israel has the choice to respond but to NOT kill civilians.

If those same civilians were Jewish, and it had the same military challenge to deal with it would take infinitely more care. Which is the litmus test.

Israel kills Palestinians innocents by choice. It is Israels fault. It is a war crime. They may anyway get away with it because of US and EU support. It doesn't change the fact that it is Israel's crime.

Who mentioned my family until you just did ? You constantly demand that the Israeli's be wiped out .

LINK to Israel being fascist, and from a non partisan source as well

Bullshit the Palestinians instigate it every time and then complain when Israel retaliates and kills Palestinian terrorists.

Where is your evidence of Israel closing the doors on legal means of resolution, and from a non partisan source.

Israel responds to violence and terrorism instigated by Palestinian "civilians" so of course they will be killed. When Israel responds to acts of war by the Palestinians the Palestinians surround their soldiers with "civilians" so they will be killed boosting the propaganda value.

Israel has no other options but to target the weapons of war used against them stationed illegally in civilian areas. Now if you read the Geneva conventions you will see that the aggressors, in this case hamas, is fully responsible for any civilian deaths resulting from return fire. So in the eyes of the LAW it is the P.A' s fault and it is the P.A's crime

The European Jews instigated the whole thing by migrating to Palestine with the intention of stealing the land from the local inhabitants.

How about a LINK from a non partisan source that says just this

LOL, do you really need a link? Do you think the European Jews went to Palestine for a short vacation?

 

[toastman]

How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were killed by the Jews. Not by the Christian Arabs or Muslim Arabs.

Then explain why it that when they do you are the first to cry foul and demand they be wiped out. The law is clear instigate a war and you will get hurt, does not matter what the reasons are. And hamas instigates war all the time so must suffer the consequences of their actions. There is no question that the Palestinians instigate the violence hoping that the deaths of alleged civilians will act as propaganda. You have wrote many times that Israel should not respond to the attacks because they are illegal immigrants and land thieves haven't you, so I will say it again as far as you are concerned Israel should not respond to Palestinian aggression, violence and terrorism because palestinians end up getting killed

Let me be clear Phoney.
I have NEVER demanded that your family be wiped out. Never. Not for a moment.

In fact, I don't believe I have ever called for ANYONE to be wiped out.
Though I would like to see the back of Fascism, whether Israel or Russian or Anglo Saxon, wiping people out is kind of fascistic itself, so not a preferred method.

Sometime Palestinians will initiate a round of violence. Sometime they are presented as such but have had intolerable incitement by others beforehand. I am not a pacifist, so can only take each instance on its merits, while wishing that Israel would not continually close the door to legal means of resolution (or corrupt those legal means) fair arbitration, or by equitable agreement, recognising that Israel really is a cuckoo in the Middle Eastern region, and should not demand rights and territory it withholds from others.

As to Palestinians getting killed: They are killed by Israelis, in the main. Israelis may accuse the victim of being at fault, but that is just a smoke screen. At every stage Israel has the choice to respond but to NOT kill civilians.

If those same civilians were Jewish, and it had the same military challenge to deal with it would take infinitely more care. Which is the litmus test.

Israel kills Palestinians innocents by choice. It is Israels fault. It is a war crime. They may anyway get away with it because of US and EU support. It doesn't change the fact that it is Israel's crime.

Who mentioned my family until you just did ? You constantly demand that the Israeli's be wiped out .

LINK to Israel being fascist, and from a non partisan source as well

Bullshit the Palestinians instigate it every time and then complain when Israel retaliates and kills Palestinian terrorists.

Where is your evidence of Israel closing the doors on legal means of resolution, and from a non partisan source.

Israel responds to violence and terrorism instigated by Palestinian "civilians" so of course they will be killed. When Israel responds to acts of war by the Palestinians the Palestinians surround their soldiers with "civilians" so they will be killed boosting the propaganda value.

Israel has no other options but to target the weapons of war used against them stationed illegally in civilian areas. Now if you read the Geneva conventions you will see that the aggressors, in this case hamas, is fully responsible for any civilian deaths resulting from return fire. So in the eyes of the LAW it is the P.A' s fault and it is the P.A's crime

The European Jews instigated the whole thing by migrating to Palestine with the intention of stealing the land from the local inhabitants.

How about a LINK from a non partisan source that says just this

LOL, do you really need a link? Do you think the European Jews went to Palestine for a short vacation?

First off, wheres your proof that most of the British were killed by Jews?

Second, the Arabs are the ones who instigated everything by massacring Jews before any Arab was killed. Must I post those links again ? Immigrating to a place where you were invited is not instigating and no land was stolen BEFORE Jews were massacred.
You're a liar.

 

[montelatici]

How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were murdered by Jew terrorists of the Irgun and Stern Gang, not the Christians and Muslims.

 

[toastman]

How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were murdered by Jew terrorists of the Irgun and Stern Gang, not the Christians and Muslims.

Where is your link to prove this ?

 

[Phoenall]

How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were killed by the Jews. Not by the Christian Arabs or Muslim Arabs.

Then explain why it that when they do you are the first to cry foul and demand they be wiped out. The law is clear instigate a war and you will get hurt, does not matter what the reasons are. And hamas instigates war all the time so must suffer the consequences of their actions. There is no question that the Palestinians instigate the violence hoping that the deaths of alleged civilians will act as propaganda. You have wrote many times that Israel should not respond to the attacks because they are illegal immigrants and land thieves haven't you, so I will say it again as far as you are concerned Israel should not respond to Palestinian aggression, violence and terrorism because palestinians end up getting killed

Let me be clear Phoney.
I have NEVER demanded that your family be wiped out. Never. Not for a moment.

In fact, I don't believe I have ever called for ANYONE to be wiped out.
Though I would like to see the back of Fascism, whether Israel or Russian or Anglo Saxon, wiping people out is kind of fascistic itself, so not a preferred method.

Sometime Palestinians will initiate a round of violence. Sometime they are presented as such but have had intolerable incitement by others beforehand. I am not a pacifist, so can only take each instance on its merits, while wishing that Israel would not continually close the door to legal means of resolution (or corrupt those legal means) fair arbitration, or by equitable agreement, recognising that Israel really is a cuckoo in the Middle Eastern region, and should not demand rights and territory it withholds from others.

As to Palestinians getting killed: They are killed by Israelis, in the main. Israelis may accuse the victim of being at fault, but that is just a smoke screen. At every stage Israel has the choice to respond but to NOT kill civilians.

If those same civilians were Jewish, and it had the same military challenge to deal with it would take infinitely more care. Which is the litmus test.

Israel kills Palestinians innocents by choice. It is Israels fault. It is a war crime. They may anyway get away with it because of US and EU support. It doesn't change the fact that it is Israel's crime.

Who mentioned my family until you just did ? You constantly demand that the Israeli's be wiped out .

LINK to Israel being fascist, and from a non partisan source as well

Bullshit the Palestinians instigate it every time and then complain when Israel retaliates and kills Palestinian terrorists.

Where is your evidence of Israel closing the doors on legal means of resolution, and from a non partisan source.

Israel responds to violence and terrorism instigated by Palestinian "civilians" so of course they will be killed. When Israel responds to acts of war by the Palestinians the Palestinians surround their soldiers with "civilians" so they will be killed boosting the propaganda value.

Israel has no other options but to target the weapons of war used against them stationed illegally in civilian areas. Now if you read the Geneva conventions you will see that the aggressors, in this case hamas, is fully responsible for any civilian deaths resulting from return fire. So in the eyes of the LAW it is the P.A' s fault and it is the P.A's crime

The European Jews instigated the whole thing by migrating to Palestine with the intention of stealing the land from the local inhabitants.

How about a LINK from a non partisan source that says just this

LOL, do you really need a link? Do you think the European Jews went to Palestine for a short vacation?

YES I NEED A LINK THAT STATES EXACTKT WHAT YOU CLAIMED. THAT THE EUROPEAN JEWS INSTIGATED EVERYTHING BY MIGRATION TO PALESTINE WITH THE INTENTION OF STEALING LAND FROM THE LOCAL INHABITANTS


So go ahead Abdul produce your evidence from a non partisan source so we can all have a laugh at your stupidity

 

[Phoenall]

How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were murdered by Jew terrorists of the Irgun and Stern Gang, not the Christians and Muslims.

So you admit that the arab muslims murdered the British using terrorist means..............

 

[Beelzebub]

All these people who "need" links.

What will happen if they don't get them? Do they ever specify that?

 

[montelatici]

How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were killed by the Jews. Not by the Christian Arabs or Muslim Arabs.

Let me be clear Phoney.
I have NEVER demanded that your family be wiped out. Never. Not for a moment.

In fact, I don't believe I have ever called for ANYONE to be wiped out.
Though I would like to see the back of Fascism, whether Israel or Russian or Anglo Saxon, wiping people out is kind of fascistic itself, so not a preferred method.

Sometime Palestinians will initiate a round of violence. Sometime they are presented as such but have had intolerable incitement by others beforehand. I am not a pacifist, so can only take each instance on its merits, while wishing that Israel would not continually close the door to legal means of resolution (or corrupt those legal means) fair arbitration, or by equitable agreement, recognising that Israel really is a cuckoo in the Middle Eastern region, and should not demand rights and territory it withholds from others.

As to Palestinians getting killed: They are killed by Israelis, in the main. Israelis may accuse the victim of being at fault, but that is just a smoke screen. At every stage Israel has the choice to respond but to NOT kill civilians.

If those same civilians were Jewish, and it had the same military challenge to deal with it would take infinitely more care. Which is the litmus test.

Israel kills Palestinians innocents by choice. It is Israels fault. It is a war crime. They may anyway get away with it because of US and EU support. It doesn't change the fact that it is Israel's crime.

Who mentioned my family until you just did ? You constantly demand that the Israeli's be wiped out .

LINK to Israel being fascist, and from a non partisan source as well

Bullshit the Palestinians instigate it every time and then complain when Israel retaliates and kills Palestinian terrorists.

Where is your evidence of Israel closing the doors on legal means of resolution, and from a non partisan source.

Israel responds to violence and terrorism instigated by Palestinian "civilians" so of course they will be killed. When Israel responds to acts of war by the Palestinians the Palestinians surround their soldiers with "civilians" so they will be killed boosting the propaganda value.

Israel has no other options but to target the weapons of war used against them stationed illegally in civilian areas. Now if you read the Geneva conventions you will see that the aggressors, in this case hamas, is fully responsible for any civilian deaths resulting from return fire. So in the eyes of the LAW it is the P.A' s fault and it is the P.A's crime

The European Jews instigated the whole thing by migrating to Palestine with the intention of stealing the land from the local inhabitants.

How about a LINK from a non partisan source that says just this

LOL, do you really need a link? Do you think the European Jews went to Palestine for a short vacation?

First off, wheres your proof that most of the British were killed by Jews?

Second, the Arabs are the ones who instigated everything by massacring Jews before any Arab was killed. Must I post those links again ? Immigrating to a place where you were invited is not instigating and no land was stolen BEFORE Jews were massacred.
You're a liar.

Firstly,

You are certainly ignorant of the facts, but I shouldn't be surprised with the nonsense you post. I hardly ever use Wiki, but sense nearly everyone knows that the Jew terrorists were the ones that targeted both the British and the Arab Christians and Muslims I will use it here. (The Christians and Muslims did not target the British normally.) Note; The Survey of Palestine has much more detailed reports of the Jew Terrorism, but I will wait for the usual denial before I take out the big guns. LOL

"Britain increasingly began to see its attempts to suppress the Jewish insurgency as a costly and futile exercise, and its resolve began to weaken. British security forces, which were constantly taking casualties, were unable to suppress the insurgents due to their hit-and-run tactics, poor intelligence, and a non-cooperative civilian population. The insurgents were also making the country ungovernable; the King David hotel bombing resulted in the deaths of a large number of civil servants and the loss of many documents, devastating the mandatory administration, while IED attacks on British vehicles began to limit the British Army's freedom of movement throughout the country. The Acre Prison break and the floggings and hangings of British soldiers by the Irgun humiliated the British authorities and further demonstrated their failure to control the situation. At the same time, attacks carried out on economic targets cost Britain almost £2 million in economic damage; meanwhile, Britain was paying about £40 million a year to keep its troops in Palestine, while at the same time the country was going through a deep economic crisis as a result of World War II, with widespread power cuts and strict rationing, and was heavily dependent on American economic aid. There were also indications, such as several successful bombings in London and the letter-bombing campaign against British politicians, that the insurgents were beginning to take the war home to Britain. "

Jewish insurgency in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Secondly, how can the Christians or Muslims be accused of instigating anything when European Jews were the ones that went to another continent with the intention of taking the land away from the Christian and Muslims that lived there and create a Jewish state on the land the Christians and Muslims owned and were living on. Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound? It's like saying the Europeans instigated the conflict with the Native Americans. You really don't get how ridiculous and illogical your position is.

 

[toastman]

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were killed by the Jews. Not by the Christian Arabs or Muslim Arabs.

Who mentioned my family until you just did ? You constantly demand that the Israeli's be wiped out .

LINK to Israel being fascist, and from a non partisan source as well

Bullshit the Palestinians instigate it every time and then complain when Israel retaliates and kills Palestinian terrorists.

Where is your evidence of Israel closing the doors on legal means of resolution, and from a non partisan source.

Israel responds to violence and terrorism instigated by Palestinian "civilians" so of course they will be killed. When Israel responds to acts of war by the Palestinians the Palestinians surround their soldiers with "civilians" so they will be killed boosting the propaganda value.

Israel has no other options but to target the weapons of war used against them stationed illegally in civilian areas. Now if you read the Geneva conventions you will see that the aggressors, in this case hamas, is fully responsible for any civilian deaths resulting from return fire. So in the eyes of the LAW it is the P.A' s fault and it is the P.A's crime

The European Jews instigated the whole thing by migrating to Palestine with the intention of stealing the land from the local inhabitants.

How about a LINK from a non partisan source that says just this

LOL, do you really need a link? Do you think the European Jews went to Palestine for a short vacation?

First off, wheres your proof that most of the British were killed by Jews?

Second, the Arabs are the ones who instigated everything by massacring Jews before any Arab was killed. Must I post those links again ? Immigrating to a place where you were invited is not instigating and no land was stolen BEFORE Jews were massacred.
You're a liar.

Firstly,

You are certainly ignorant of the facts, but I shouldn't be surprised with the nonsense you post. I hardly ever use Wiki, but sense nearly everyone knows that the Jew terrorists were the ones that targeted both the British and the Arab Christians and Muslims I will use it here. (The Christians and Muslims did not target the British normally.) Note; The Survey of Palestine has much more detailed reports of the Jew Terrorism, but I will wait for the usual denial before I take out the big guns. LOL

"Britain increasingly began to see its attempts to suppress the Jewish insurgency as a costly and futile exercise, and its resolve began to weaken. British security forces, which were constantly taking casualties, were unable to suppress the insurgents due to their hit-and-run tactics, poor intelligence, and a non-cooperative civilian population. The insurgents were also making the country ungovernable; the King David hotel bombing resulted in the deaths of a large number of civil servants and the loss of many documents, devastating the mandatory administration, while IED attacks on British vehicles began to limit the British Army's freedom of movement throughout the country. The Acre Prison break and the floggings and hangings of British soldiers by the Irgun humiliated the British authorities and further demonstrated their failure to control the situation. At the same time, attacks carried out on economic targets cost Britain almost £2 million in economic damage; meanwhile, Britain was paying about £40 million a year to keep its troops in Palestine, while at the same time the country was going through a deep economic crisis as a result of World War II, with widespread power cuts and strict rationing, and was heavily dependent on American economic aid. There were also indications, such as several successful bombings in London and the letter-bombing campaign against British politicians, that the insurgents were beginning to take the war home to Britain. "

Jewish insurgency in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Secondly, how can the Christians or Muslims be accused of instigating anything when European Jews were the ones that went to another continent with the intention of taking the land away from the Christian and Muslims that lived there and create a Jewish state on the land the Christians and Muslims owned and were living on. Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound? It's like saying the Europeans instigated the conflict with the Native Americans. You really don't get how ridiculous and illogical your position is.

First off, your link did not back up your claim that Jews killed more British than Arab terrorists.

Second, the way they can be accused of instigating anything is because they DID instigate EVERYTHING by massacring Jews BEFORE (key word here is BEFORE) ANY land was taken and before any Arab was killed.
The European Jews went to Mandatory Palestine because of the British promise that they would eventually be able to make a homeland for themselves and escape anti Semitism that they were enduring in Europe. It's that simple. You are basically saying that the Arabs had permission to massacre and attack anyone who came to the region because they want to.
Immigrating to the region is not an instigation. I'm not saying the Arabs didn't have the right to protest it, but they certainly, without doubt, were the ones who instigated the violence, and that's not up for debate.

 

[montelatici]

How IGNORANT YOU ARE..............

How ignorant are you? Did you watch the video? I only stated what the video said. The Irgun was formed to fight the British. And that is who they concentrated on.

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were murdered by Jew terrorists of the Irgun and Stern Gang, not the Christians and Muslims.

So you admit that the arab muslims murdered the British using terrorist means..............

The Arab Muslims believed till the end that the British would not sell them down the river. The British were overwhelmingly attacked and murdered by the Jews.


I might have to bring out the "big guns" to make Phoney look even more like buffoon he is if he doesn't stop denying fact.

 

[montelatici]

Irgun may have "concentrated" on the British but killed more Arabs than British. The King David hotel bomb killed more Arabs than British. Irgun were viscious animals that killed Brits and Arabs.

And how many Jews and British did the arab muslims kill then Abdul ?

Most of the British were killed by the Jews. Not by the Christian Arabs or Muslim Arabs.

The European Jews instigated the whole thing by migrating to Palestine with the intention of stealing the land from the local inhabitants.

How about a LINK from a non partisan source that says just this

LOL, do you really need a link? Do you think the European Jews went to Palestine for a short vacation?

First off, wheres your proof that most of the British were killed by Jews?

Second, the Arabs are the ones who instigated everything by massacring Jews before any Arab was killed. Must I post those links again ? Immigrating to a place where you were invited is not instigating and no land was stolen BEFORE Jews were massacred.
You're a liar.

Firstly,

You are certainly ignorant of the facts, but I shouldn't be surprised with the nonsense you post. I hardly ever use Wiki, but sense nearly everyone knows that the Jew terrorists were the ones that targeted both the British and the Arab Christians and Muslims I will use it here. (The Christians and Muslims did not target the British normally.) Note; The Survey of Palestine has much more detailed reports of the Jew Terrorism, but I will wait for the usual denial before I take out the big guns. LOL

"Britain increasingly began to see its attempts to suppress the Jewish insurgency as a costly and futile exercise, and its resolve began to weaken. British security forces, which were constantly taking casualties, were unable to suppress the insurgents due to their hit-and-run tactics, poor intelligence, and a non-cooperative civilian population. The insurgents were also making the country ungovernable; the King David hotel bombing resulted in the deaths of a large number of civil servants and the loss of many documents, devastating the mandatory administration, while IED attacks on British vehicles began to limit the British Army's freedom of movement throughout the country. The Acre Prison break and the floggings and hangings of British soldiers by the Irgun humiliated the British authorities and further demonstrated their failure to control the situation. At the same time, attacks carried out on economic targets cost Britain almost £2 million in economic damage; meanwhile, Britain was paying about £40 million a year to keep its troops in Palestine, while at the same time the country was going through a deep economic crisis as a result of World War II, with widespread power cuts and strict rationing, and was heavily dependent on American economic aid. There were also indications, such as several successful bombings in London and the letter-bombing campaign against British politicians, that the insurgents were beginning to take the war home to Britain. "

Jewish insurgency in Palestine - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia


Secondly, how can the Christians or Muslims be accused of instigating anything when European Jews were the ones that went to another continent with the intention of taking the land away from the Christian and Muslims that lived there and create a Jewish state on the land the Christians and Muslims owned and were living on. Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound? It's like saying the Europeans instigated the conflict with the Native Americans. You really don't get how ridiculous and illogical your position is.

First off, your link did not back up your claim that Jews killed more British than Arab terrorists.

Second, the way they can be accused of instigating anything is because they DID instigate EVERYTHING by massacring Jews BEFORE (key word here is BEFORE) ANY land was taken and before any Arab was killed.
The European Jews went to Mandatory Palestine because of the British promise that they would eventually be able to make a homeland for themselves and escape anti Semitism that they were enduring in Europe. It's that simple. You are basically saying that the Arabs had permission to massacre and attack anyone who came to the region because they want to.
Immigrating to the region is not an instigation. I'm not saying the Arabs didn't have the right to protest it, but they certainly, without doubt, were the ones who instigated the violence, and that's not up for debate.

Try to find a similar list of Christian or Muslim attacks against the British. Or a case of Christians or Muslims killing a British minister or UN negotiator. You provide no links for anything you just deny you jerk.

• 1937–1939 The Irgun conducted a campaign of violence against Palestinian Arab civilians resulting in the deaths of at least 250.[citation needed]
• July 15, 1938* A bomb left in the vegetable market in Jerusalem by the Irgun injured 28[31]
• July 25, 1938* The Irgun threw a bomb into the melon market in Haifa resulting in 49 deaths[32]
• November 6, 1944 Lehi assassinated British minister Lord Moyne in Cairo, Egypt. The action was condemned by the Yishuv at the time, but the bodies of the assassins was brought home from Egypt in 1975 to a state funeral and burial on Mount Herzl.[citation needed]
• 1944–1945 The killings of several suspected collaborators with the Haganah and the British mandate government during the Hunting Season.
• 1946' Letter bombs sent to British officials, including foreign minister Ernst Bevin, by Lehi
• July 26, 1946 The bombing of British administrative headquarters at the King David Hotel, killing 91 people — 28 British, 41 Arab, 17 Jewish, and 5 others. Around 45 people were injured.
• 1946 Railways and British military airfields were attacked several times.
• October 31, 1946 The bombing by the Irgun of the British Embassy in Rome. Nearly half the building was destroyed and 3 people were injured.[33]
• April 1947* An Irgun bomb placed at the Colonial Office in London failed to detonate.[34]
• July 25, 1947 The Sergeants affair: When death sentences were passed on two Irgun members, the Irgun kidnapped Sgt. Clifford Martin and Sgt. Mervyn Paice and threatened to kill them in retaliation if the sentences were carried out. When the threat was ignored, the hostages were killed. Afterwards, their bodies were taken to an orange grove and left hanging by the neck from trees. An improvised explosive device was set. This went off when one of the bodies was cut down, seriously wounding a British officer.[35]
• December 1947 – March 1948 Numerous attacks on Palestinian Arabs in the context of civil war after the vote of the United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine
• '1947 Letter bombs sent to the Truman White House by Lehi
• January 5–6, 1948 The Semiramis Hotel bombing, carried out by the Haganah (or, according to some sources, Irgun) resulted in the deaths of 24 to 26 people
• April 1948 The Deir Yassin massacre carried out by the Irgun and Lehi, killed between 107 and 120 Palestinian villagers,[36] the estimate generally accepted by scholars.[37][38]
• September 17, 1948 Lehi assassination of the United Nations mediator Folke Bernadotte, negotiator of the release of about 31,000 prisoners (including thousands of Jews from Nazi concentration camps during World War II),[39][40] whom Lehi accused of a pro-Arab stance during the cease-fire negotiations.

Zionist political violence - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

European Jews went to Palestine with the intention of taking land and creating a Jewish state at the expense of the Christians and Muslims. You can't get around that you idiot. That was the provocation that started the conflict.