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[Stryder50]

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational.

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We are all socialists now - - President of Finland when Obamacare passed. Conflation of socialism and communism Is the super capitalist English speaking way. France Italy Spain scandinav believe they have socialism now. The UK Canada Australia New Zealand have socialism now but don't know it. Lol. So why are we the only modern country, and we are the richest of all by far, without a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. The g o p brainwash end of story.

Only you can know and tell if this disinformation you present is based on ignorance or intent ...
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Socialism is a political, social, and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] It includes the political theories and movements associated with such systems.[9] Social ownership can be public, collective, cooperative, or of equity.[10] While no single definition encapsulates the many types of socialism,[11] social ownership is the one common element.[1][12][13] The types of socialism vary based on the role of markets and planning in resource allocation, on the structure of management in organizations, and socialists disagree on whether government, particularly existing government, is the correct vehicle for change.[7][14]

Socialist systems are divided into non-market and market forms.[15] Non-market socialism substitutes factor markets and money with integrated economic planning and engineering or technical criteria based on calculation performed in-kind, thereby producing a different economic mechanism that functions according to different economic laws and dynamics than those of capitalism.[16][17][18][19] A non-market socialist system eliminates the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system in capitalism.[20][21][22][23] The socialist calculation debate, originated by the economic calculation problem,[24][25] concerns the feasibility and methods of resource allocation for a planned socialist system.[26][27][28] By contrast, market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets and in some cases the profit motive, with respect to the operation of socially owned enterprises and the allocation of capital goods between them. Profits generated by these firms would be controlled directly by the workforce of each firm or accrue to society at large in the form of a social dividend.[29][30][31] Anarchism and libertarian socialism oppose the use of the state as a means to establish socialism, favouring decentralisation above all, whether to establish non-market socialism or market socialism.[32][33]

Socialist politics has been both internationalist and nationalist in orientation; organised through political parties and opposed to party politics; at times overlapping with trade unions and at other times independent and critical of them; and present in both industrialised and developing nations.[34] Social democracy originated within the socialist movement,[35] supporting economic and social interventions to promote social justice.[36][37] While nominally retaining socialism as a long-term goal,[38][39][40][41][42] since the post-war period it has come to embrace a Keynesian mixed economy within a predominantly developed capitalist market economy and liberal democratic polity that expands state intervention to include income redistribution, regulation and a welfare state.[43] Economic democracy proposes a sort of market socialism, with more democratic control of companies, currencies, investments and natural resources.[44]
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Socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Definition of socialism​

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done ...

Definition of SOCIALISM

any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational.

PERIOD

We are all socialists now - - President of Finland when Obamacare passed. Conflation of socialism and communism Is the super capitalist English speaking way. France Italy Spain scandinav believe they have socialism now. The UK Canada Australia New Zealand have socialism now but don't know it. Lol. So why are we the only modern country, and we are the richest of all by far, without a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. The g o p brainwash end of story.

Socialism is a religion.

Of course you are talking about communism, not socialism as every socialist in the world knows.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational.

PERIOD

We are all socialists now - - President of Finland when Obamacare passed. Conflation of socialism and communism Is the super capitalist English speaking way. France Italy Spain scandinav believe they have socialism now. The UK Canada Australia New Zealand have socialism now but don't know it. Lol. So why are we the only modern country, and we are the richest of all by far, without a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. The g o p brainwash end of story.

With exception of CCP China which is socialism sharing the poverty (communism, with a dash of capitalism), most of the Western Socialist nations do so with heavy load of Deficit and Debt being passed on to next generations.
World Debt Clocks

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

Communism is a dictatorship, socialism is a democracy. You people are infuriating you can't tell the difference. Pathetic brainwashed idiocy. Every socialist party in a democracy ever has been for democracy and simply fair capitalism. Change the channel someday.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational.

PERIOD

We are all socialists now - - President of Finland when Obamacare passed. Conflation of socialism and communism Is the super capitalist English speaking way. France Italy Spain scandinav believe they have socialism now. The UK Canada Australia New Zealand have socialism now but don't know it. Lol. So why are we the only modern country, and we are the richest of all by far, without a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. The g o p brainwash end of story.

Only you can know and tell if this disinformation you present is based on ignorance or intent ...
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Socialism is a political, social, and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] It includes the political theories and movements associated with such systems.[9] Social ownership can be public, collective, cooperative, or of equity.[10] While no single definition encapsulates the many types of socialism,[11] social ownership is the one common element.[1][12][13] The types of socialism vary based on the role of markets and planning in resource allocation, on the structure of management in organizations, and socialists disagree on whether government, particularly existing government, is the correct vehicle for change.[7][14]

Socialist systems are divided into non-market and market forms.[15] Non-market socialism substitutes factor markets and money with integrated economic planning and engineering or technical criteria based on calculation performed in-kind, thereby producing a different economic mechanism that functions according to different economic laws and dynamics than those of capitalism.[16][17][18][19] A non-market socialist system eliminates the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system in capitalism.[20][21][22][23] The socialist calculation debate, originated by the economic calculation problem,[24][25] concerns the feasibility and methods of resource allocation for a planned socialist system.[26][27][28] By contrast, market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets and in some cases the profit motive, with respect to the operation of socially owned enterprises and the allocation of capital goods between them. Profits generated by these firms would be controlled directly by the workforce of each firm or accrue to society at large in the form of a social dividend.[29][30][31] Anarchism and libertarian socialism oppose the use of the state as a means to establish socialism, favouring decentralisation above all, whether to establish non-market socialism or market socialism.[32][33]

Socialist politics has been both internationalist and nationalist in orientation; organised through political parties and opposed to party politics; at times overlapping with trade unions and at other times independent and critical of them; and present in both industrialised and developing nations.[34] Social democracy originated within the socialist movement,[35] supporting economic and social interventions to promote social justice.[36][37] While nominally retaining socialism as a long-term goal,[38][39][40][41][42] since the post-war period it has come to embrace a Keynesian mixed economy within a predominantly developed capitalist market economy and liberal democratic polity that expands state intervention to include income redistribution, regulation and a welfare state.[43] Economic democracy proposes a sort of market socialism, with more democratic control of companies, currencies, investments and natural resources.[44]
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Socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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Definition of socialism​

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done ...

Definition of SOCIALISM

any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Meanwhile every socialist party in a democracy ever has always been for democracy and fair capitalism. France Italy Spain Scandinavia all had socialist parties that's why they are like they are today. Fair capitalism with a living wage child care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich. These countries also had communist parties in competition with the socialist ones and they were supported by the USSR and disappeared with the USSR. Stop babbling definitions that can be just about anything. Community administration of capitalism is what we have now. Just an unfair GOP administration and tax rates. Everything that Bernie Sanders and AOC want they already have in every other modern country including Canada. Try reality.

 

[Stryder50]

Democracy are often a dictatorship of the majority at the expense of the rights and liberties of the minority. Hence why the USA is a Republic;
The American Form of Government


I've just shown you how Wiki and Merriam-Webster Dictionary differ from your propagandistic spin and disinformation idea of what "socialism" is. They have greater credibility than you do, especially since it looks like you are using "socialism" to justify theft from those whom are productive and "Make Wealth" to give to the deadwood and non-productive as "Redistribute Wealth". You would use guv'mint to sanction your crimes and theft it seems.

"fair capitalism" is both an oxymoron and non-existent. By it's nature capitalism includes risk, potential to fail and every pseudo-Marxist like you whom advocates for "fair capitalism" is only looking to plunder from the successful capitalism enterprises but not willing to share the loss and costs of those that fail.

It's fairly clear you know nothing about economics and likely are another bit of the deadwood looking to be a parasite on the labors, risks, sacrifices and possible gains of others who invest their capital/start-up funds, put in the long hours and efforts needed, risk loosing it all and only see your sort of parasitic scum when it looks like things have finally worked to produce some profit. Then your sort of waste of human skin shows up with a hand-out expecting your "fair share" for having done nothing, risked nothing, earned nothing.

 

[Stryder50]

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational.

PERIOD

We are all socialists now - - President of Finland when Obamacare passed. Conflation of socialism and communism Is the super capitalist English speaking way. France Italy Spain scandinav believe they have socialism now. The UK Canada Australia New Zealand have socialism now but don't know it. Lol. So why are we the only modern country, and we are the richest of all by far, without a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. The g o p brainwash end of story.

Only you can know and tell if this disinformation you present is based on ignorance or intent ...
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Socialism is a political, social, and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] It includes the political theories and movements associated with such systems.[9] Social ownership can be public, collective, cooperative, or of equity.[10] While no single definition encapsulates the many types of socialism,[11] social ownership is the one common element.[1][12][13] The types of socialism vary based on the role of markets and planning in resource allocation, on the structure of management in organizations, and socialists disagree on whether government, particularly existing government, is the correct vehicle for change.[7][14]

Socialist systems are divided into non-market and market forms.[15] Non-market socialism substitutes factor markets and money with integrated economic planning and engineering or technical criteria based on calculation performed in-kind, thereby producing a different economic mechanism that functions according to different economic laws and dynamics than those of capitalism.[16][17][18][19] A non-market socialist system eliminates the inefficiencies and crises traditionally associated with capital accumulation and the profit system in capitalism.[20][21][22][23] The socialist calculation debate, originated by the economic calculation problem,[24][25] concerns the feasibility and methods of resource allocation for a planned socialist system.[26][27][28] By contrast, market socialism retains the use of monetary prices, factor markets and in some cases the profit motive, with respect to the operation of socially owned enterprises and the allocation of capital goods between them. Profits generated by these firms would be controlled directly by the workforce of each firm or accrue to society at large in the form of a social dividend.[29][30][31] Anarchism and libertarian socialism oppose the use of the state as a means to establish socialism, favouring decentralisation above all, whether to establish non-market socialism or market socialism.[32][33]

Socialist politics has been both internationalist and nationalist in orientation; organised through political parties and opposed to party politics; at times overlapping with trade unions and at other times independent and critical of them; and present in both industrialised and developing nations.[34] Social democracy originated within the socialist movement,[35] supporting economic and social interventions to promote social justice.[36][37] While nominally retaining socialism as a long-term goal,[38][39][40][41][42] since the post-war period it has come to embrace a Keynesian mixed economy within a predominantly developed capitalist market economy and liberal democratic polity that expands state intervention to include income redistribution, regulation and a welfare state.[43] Economic democracy proposes a sort of market socialism, with more democratic control of companies, currencies, investments and natural resources.[44]
...

Socialism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Definition of socialism​

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done ...

Definition of SOCIALISM

any of various egalitarian economic and political theories or movements advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods; a system of society or group living in which there is no private property… See the full definition

www.merriam-webster.com

Meanwhile every socialist party in a democracy ever has always been for democracy and fair capitalism. France Italy Spain Scandinavia all had socialist parties that's why they are like they are today. Fair capitalism with a living wage child care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich. These countries also had communist parties in competition with the socialist ones and they were supported by the USSR and disappeared with the USSR. Stop babbling definitions that can be just about anything. Community administration of capitalism is what we have now. Just an unfair GOP administration and tax rates. Everything that Bernie Sanders and AOC want they already have in every other modern country including Canada. Try reality.

Reality is:
There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch! TANSTAAFL!

How about instead of advocating for legalized theft of the productive; YOU invest your resources and efforts to start a business(capitalism), provide jobs to others, and disperse your profits in ways you see fit ??? !!!

Meanwhile it's clear you are both an ignorant dufus, lazy ass, and likely criminal thief as well!

When the USSR "collapsed" over half it's real economy was the Black(underground) Economy, which was mostly dominated by the various criminal networks ("Russian Mafia") and it was those Black Market Capitalists whom revitalized the Russian economy (they'd been controlling half of it already).

Would seem you have no grasp on what reality is.

If you want to put actions to your fake idealism, I've a garden you can come weed, komrade.

 

[francoHFW]

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational.

PERIOD

We are all socialists now - - President of Finland when Obamacare passed. Conflation of socialism and communism Is the super capitalist English speaking way. France Italy Spain scandinav believe they have socialism now. The UK Canada Australia New Zealand have socialism now but don't know it. Lol. So why are we the only modern country, and we are the richest of all by far, without a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. The g o p brainwash end of story.

Socialism is a religion.

Of course you are talking about communism, not socialism as every socialist in the world knows.

We are all socialists now

not me friend. I'm not included in your hate americans diatribe. "don't go away mad muskrat, just go away". (Deputy Dawg)

Wanting fair capitalism with a good safety net is not hating America, brainwashed functional moron. You are the people who hate because of your hateful propaganda brainwash.

 

[ding]

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational.

PERIOD

We are all socialists now - - President of Finland when Obamacare passed. Conflation of socialism and communism Is the super capitalist English speaking way. France Italy Spain scandinav believe they have socialism now. The UK Canada Australia New Zealand have socialism now but don't know it. Lol. So why are we the only modern country, and we are the richest of all by far, without a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. The g o p brainwash end of story.

Socialism is a religion.

Of course you are talking about communism, not socialism as every socialist in the world knows.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational.

PERIOD

We are all socialists now - - President of Finland when Obamacare passed. Conflation of socialism and communism Is the super capitalist English speaking way. France Italy Spain scandinav believe they have socialism now. The UK Canada Australia New Zealand have socialism now but don't know it. Lol. So why are we the only modern country, and we are the richest of all by far, without a living wage health care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training great infrastructure and vacations ID card to end illegal immigration and mainly taxing the rich their fair share. The g o p brainwash end of story.

With exception of CCP China which is socialism sharing the poverty (communism, with a dash of capitalism), most of the Western Socialist nations do so with heavy load of Deficit and Debt being passed on to next generations.
World Debt Clocks

https://www.usdebtclock.org/world-debt-clock.html

Communism is a dictatorship, socialism is a democracy. You people are infuriating you can't tell the difference. Pathetic brainwashed idiocy. Every socialist party in a democracy ever has been for democracy and simply fair capitalism. Change the channel someday.

Socialism's appeal is the perception of morality. In that regard, socialism competes with Christianity.