A message from a Mexican to The USA

So, your point is that we have no right to this land and it is the right of Mexicans and the like to take it from us?
Straw man hyperbole- ALL men have certain unalienable rights- there are no ethnic caveats.

If an unalienable right means anything, it also means that the people that are being invaded are also being denied their rights.

Mark
Mark,

The Anti Liberty / POLICE STATE / MAGA (APMs) supporters have not articulated a Right they were denied because a foreigner came into the United States. Did someone deny you a Right you had by taking advantage of an opportunity willingly offered?

IF undocumented foreigners are getting any of your tax money, it is because the government YOU voted for gave it to them OR they are stealing it... in which case the APMs already got the Orwellian National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify crap passed and that was supposed to catch those people - at a great loss to your Liberties as well as mine. Remember what Benjamin Franklin said that those who trade essential Liberty for the promise of temporary Safety deserve neither? It's because once you forfeit your Liberty you forfeit Safety as well.

Be specific and tell me what Rights you've been denied on account of non-citizens participating in the free market.

Let me simply say this. Open borders are incompatible with a welfare state.

Mark

Now you're quoting Milton Friedman. Milton Friedman did not believe in a welfare state. Neither should we.
I answered your question. Now answer mine.
No, you haven't.

Post no. 163

Mark
Post 163

1. Most of that seemed to be supporting your example as a valid example of a problem. Which I did not challenge sooo.


2. If your solution is to bring in cheap foreign labor to do the work, then I will oppose you, no matter whether or not you deny personal responsibility for the results of your policy.

3. You suggest fixing our culture. Sounds good. I don't how or why allowing immigrants to flood our country while doing that, would be a good policy.

Nowhere do I see my question answered. So, when are you going to answer it?
Do you or do you not believe in UNalienable rights. Simple yes or no will do.

Do you still beat your wife? A simple yes or no will do. Yes, I believe in unalienable rights. I also believe that the rights of others does not give them a right to invade your home. If a person brought his family into your home, does he have a right to stay there without your permission?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Mark


Mark, when Americans and foreigners do business willingly, the Americans have consented to that relationship. So, they have permission - though not necessary since unalienable Rights preceded the founding of government and are above the laws of man.

But, do tell, what Rights have been taken from you by way of foreigners engaging in the free market.

Not foreigners. Illegals. When Trump finally tried to limit the illegals in this country, wages went up. That was not a coincidence.

Mark

Mark, without taking sides, do you support the Constitution of the United States as originally written and intended OR do you support the Democrats version of a "living" Constitution?
 
Mexican illegals walk over me like they own the place. They have no clue, as do most of you.
Nobody except godverment employees walks all over anyone- being disingenuous doesn't lend credibility-
I'm here in Texas lived here all my life (except when I was stationed in Long Beach in the Navy) and the only problem I ever had with Mexicans was when some, spoiled, smart ass white boy went to the Mexican part of town and started trouble and came running back to where we were- he went there first.
My best friend in the Navy was a Mexican from Rockdale, Tx -

Let’s sum up this post ...”Mexicans good-whites bad”
 
The wall will do more to keep us in..... line than to keep anyone out. We are already asked about citizenship within 100 miles of the Rio Grande- the Police State despises free movement.

Cognitive dissonance again. A porous border is why you are harassed.
 
Mexican illegals walk over me like they own the place. They have no clue, as do most of you.
Nobody except godverment employees walks all over anyone- being disingenuous doesn't lend credibility-
I'm here in Texas lived here all my life (except when I was stationed in Long Beach in the Navy) and the only problem I ever had with Mexicans was when some, spoiled, smart ass white boy went to the Mexican part of town and started trouble and came running back to where we were- he went there first.
My best friend in the Navy was a Mexican from Rockdale, Tx -
I realize this comment is old but your response in and of itself is a problem. You don't even SEE a problem with the nation your ancestors died to establish being taken over by foreign entities. "When some spoiled, smart ass White boy went to the Mexican part of town." You don't see an issue with their BEING a "Mexican part of town", that's terrifying. What's worse is taking the side of a foreign invader over your OWN people. The fact is, that "spoiled, smart ass White boy" has EVERY right to be ANYWHERE in this country he chooses to be while the same cannot be said for Mexicans.

And you have the nerve to call another American disingenuous? At least he's/she's not a poser, like YOU.
 
Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.
 
Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.

More misinformation... The United States is currently naturalizing more than 750,000 people per year. The so - called "illegals" will become citizens and if you stand in the way of the free enterprise system, they will soon be in complete control. You people that are obsessed with this mythical "illegal alien" B.S. need to study the issue if you want to retain your Rights for the next generation.
 
Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.

More misinformation... The United States is currently naturalizing more than 750,000 people per year. The so - called "illegals" will become citizens and if you stand in the way of the free enterprise system, they will soon be in complete control. You people that are obsessed with this mythical "illegal alien" B.S. need to study the issue if you want to retain your Rights for the next generation.

Only misinformation here is coming from you.

Illegals cannot be naturalized, since they're in the country illegally. Naturalization process is reserved for immigrants who have been permanent residents for at least five years, and comply with several eligibility requirements. Here is a little homework for you to study. Come back when you learn the lesson.

Naturalization Information
 
Once there was a town in California that had a bad Pigeon problem. You couldn't walk out of your house without getting dumped on. The mayor put an add in major news papers for anyone that could rid the town of these vermin.

Two days latter a man answered the add. He told the mayor as long as he was asked no questions it would be free or $100,000 if any questions were asked. The mayor agreed and met the man on the highest hill in town the next morning. The man pulled a blue bird from under his coat and released him. He took flight and as he flew around town pigeons followed him. When all were following him he flew out of town, returning alone a couple hours latter.

When the man showed up at town hall the mayor had a check for $100,000. The mayor handed him the check and said I just have to ask you one question. Do you have any blue Mexicans?

I also have one question. Do these democrats see this issue as they do the rest through a delusion?
 
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Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.

More misinformation... The United States is currently naturalizing more than 750,000 people per year. The so - called "illegals" will become citizens and if you stand in the way of the free enterprise system, they will soon be in complete control. You people that are obsessed with this mythical "illegal alien" B.S. need to study the issue if you want to retain your Rights for the next generation.

Only misinformation here is coming from you.

Illegals cannot be naturalized, since they're in the country illegally. Naturalization process is reserved for immigrants who have been permanent residents for at least five years, and comply with several eligibility requirements. Here is a little homework for you to study. Come back when you learn the lesson.

Naturalization Information


Between 1986 and 2001 there were approximately SEVEN amnesty periods whereby undocumented foreigners could become citizens. The facts kind of contradict what you are alleging. I worked in immigration law for several years and have forgotten more than you are capable of learning.
 
Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.

More misinformation... The United States is currently naturalizing more than 750,000 people per year. The so - called "illegals" will become citizens and if you stand in the way of the free enterprise system, they will soon be in complete control. You people that are obsessed with this mythical "illegal alien" B.S. need to study the issue if you want to retain your Rights for the next generation.

Only misinformation here is coming from you.

Illegals cannot be naturalized, since they're in the country illegally. Naturalization process is reserved for immigrants who have been permanent residents for at least five years, and comply with several eligibility requirements. Here is a little homework for you to study. Come back when you learn the lesson.

Naturalization Information


Between 1986 and 2001 there were approximately SEVEN amnesty periods whereby undocumented foreigners could become citizens. The facts kind of contradict what you are alleging. I worked in immigration law for several years and have forgotten more than you are capable of learning.

"undocumented foreigners"

You mean illegal aliens?

We're talking about current laws on books, not about your wish list. Without new immigration law passed by the Congress and signed by President, there is no amnesty, or naturalization, current laws are in force. If there are questions about current laws, refer to the link in my previous post. With your "expertise in immigration law", I sure hope you wont have problem finding it.
 
Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.

More misinformation... The United States is currently naturalizing more than 750,000 people per year. The so - called "illegals" will become citizens and if you stand in the way of the free enterprise system, they will soon be in complete control. You people that are obsessed with this mythical "illegal alien" B.S. need to study the issue if you want to retain your Rights for the next generation.

Only misinformation here is coming from you.

Illegals cannot be naturalized, since they're in the country illegally. Naturalization process is reserved for immigrants who have been permanent residents for at least five years, and comply with several eligibility requirements. Here is a little homework for you to study. Come back when you learn the lesson.

Naturalization Information


Between 1986 and 2001 there were approximately SEVEN amnesty periods whereby undocumented foreigners could become citizens. The facts kind of contradict what you are alleging. I worked in immigration law for several years and have forgotten more than you are capable of learning.

"undocumented foreigners"

You mean illegal aliens?

We're talking about current laws on books, not about your wish list. Without new immigration law passed by the Congress and signed by President, there is no amnesty, or naturalization, current laws are in force. If there are questions about current laws, refer to the link in my previous post. With your "expertise in immigration law", I sure hope you wont have problem finding it.

You are an idiot. The current immigration laws on the books were put there by the Democrats with the sole purpose of diluting the white vote and making whites a minority. The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to be involved in who an individual state does or does not allow into its borders. Maybe when your stupid white ass is called a domestic terrorist or an enemy combatant or illegal gun owner, etc. and you are presumed guilty; pursued without Due Process, you will get it: undocumented foreigner.
 
Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.

More misinformation... The United States is currently naturalizing more than 750,000 people per year. The so - called "illegals" will become citizens and if you stand in the way of the free enterprise system, they will soon be in complete control. You people that are obsessed with this mythical "illegal alien" B.S. need to study the issue if you want to retain your Rights for the next generation.

Only misinformation here is coming from you.

Illegals cannot be naturalized, since they're in the country illegally. Naturalization process is reserved for immigrants who have been permanent residents for at least five years, and comply with several eligibility requirements. Here is a little homework for you to study. Come back when you learn the lesson.

Naturalization Information


Between 1986 and 2001 there were approximately SEVEN amnesty periods whereby undocumented foreigners could become citizens. The facts kind of contradict what you are alleging. I worked in immigration law for several years and have forgotten more than you are capable of learning.

"undocumented foreigners"

You mean illegal aliens?

We're talking about current laws on books, not about your wish list. Without new immigration law passed by the Congress and signed by President, there is no amnesty, or naturalization, current laws are in force. If there are questions about current laws, refer to the link in my previous post. With your "expertise in immigration law", I sure hope you wont have problem finding it.

You are an idiot. The current immigration laws on the books were put there by the Democrats with the sole purpose of diluting the white vote and making whites a minority. The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to be involved in who an individual state does or does not allow into its borders. Maybe when your stupid white ass is called a domestic terrorist or an enemy combatant or illegal gun owner, etc. and you are presumed guilty; pursued without Due Process, you will get it: undocumented foreigner.

While Article I, Section 8, does not give Congress an enumerated power to restrict immigration, that authority is inherent in the structure of the Constitution or in the very nature of government. Since Article I includes an explicit grant of the power to establish a “uniform rule of naturalization”, therefore Federal government would have inherent power over immigration. Also, dunce... Congress have the power to “define and punish” offenses against “the law of nations”, and every illegal alien is subject to that punishment. An "expert" such as yourself, should've heard about plenary power doctrine, and if not, I'll get my kid crayons and will draw it for you.

Beside Congress, who define laws of the nation, Article II of the Constitution gives all “executive” power to the president, meaning it gives the president the authority to wield any power that is inherent to the nature of the “executive.” Presumably that concept includes power over immigration too. Since you're an "expert" who "worked in immigration law", you should know that, but I wouldn't bet my white ass on it. By the way, what color of my ass has to do with your shrieking?
 
American jobs, American workers are like the dodo. I've seen Taxi drivers, forklift operators, carpenters, plumbers, die builders...tradesmen vanish under the thumb of globalist that hire slipshod Mexican workers because..."profit uber ales".
No you haven't- you've seen change, which is inevitable. It's a one constant in this world that you deal with or don't. The Mexicans I know and have known are hard workers. And I assure you, there are a lot more of them down here than there are in Colorado- I suspect you're just prejudice.
Anecdote: My ex wife and I and another couple drove to a skiing trip in Colorado years ago- we stopped to eat somewhere in Colorado. I went to the restroom to pee, and on the wall, above the urinal was a hand written sign that stated: Texans go home and take a Mexican with you-
Colorado has some pretty country, but the attitude is pretty sanctimonious - if not down right hypocritical since a lot of it's state income is from outsiders (including Texans) visiting- the Mexicans clean your hotel rooms and mow your yards and clean your filthy bathrooms- you have no room to talk so piously.


Fuck you you ignorant asshole, your experience doesn't invalidate that of anyone else. So just STFU.

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Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.

More misinformation... The United States is currently naturalizing more than 750,000 people per year. The so - called "illegals" will become citizens and if you stand in the way of the free enterprise system, they will soon be in complete control. You people that are obsessed with this mythical "illegal alien" B.S. need to study the issue if you want to retain your Rights for the next generation.

Only misinformation here is coming from you.

Illegals cannot be naturalized, since they're in the country illegally. Naturalization process is reserved for immigrants who have been permanent residents for at least five years, and comply with several eligibility requirements. Here is a little homework for you to study. Come back when you learn the lesson.

Naturalization Information


Between 1986 and 2001 there were approximately SEVEN amnesty periods whereby undocumented foreigners could become citizens. The facts kind of contradict what you are alleging. I worked in immigration law for several years and have forgotten more than you are capable of learning.

"undocumented foreigners"

You mean illegal aliens?

We're talking about current laws on books, not about your wish list. Without new immigration law passed by the Congress and signed by President, there is no amnesty, or naturalization, current laws are in force. If there are questions about current laws, refer to the link in my previous post. With your "expertise in immigration law", I sure hope you wont have problem finding it.

You are an idiot. The current immigration laws on the books were put there by the Democrats with the sole purpose of diluting the white vote and making whites a minority. The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to be involved in who an individual state does or does not allow into its borders. Maybe when your stupid white ass is called a domestic terrorist or an enemy combatant or illegal gun owner, etc. and you are presumed guilty; pursued without Due Process, you will get it: undocumented foreigner.

While Article I, Section 8, does not give Congress an enumerated power to restrict immigration, that authority is inherent in the structure of the Constitution or in the very nature of government. Since Article I includes an explicit grant of the power to establish a “uniform rule of naturalization”, therefore Federal government would have inherent power over immigration. Also, dunce... Congress have the power to “define and punish” offenses against “the law of nations”, and every illegal alien is subject to that punishment. An "expert" such as yourself, should've heard about plenary power doctrine, and if not, I'll get my kid crayons and will draw it for you.

Beside Congress, who define laws of the nation, Article II of the Constitution gives all “executive” power to the president, meaning it gives the president the authority to wield any power that is inherent to the nature of the “executive.” Presumably that concept includes power over immigration too. Since you're an "expert" who "worked in immigration law", you should know that, but I wouldn't bet my white ass on it. By the way, what color of my ass has to do with your shrieking?

You've been researching my old posts. If not for the "plenary power" doctrine, there would be no federal immigration laws. It's funny how the federal courts waited until 1875 to declare such a power AND NOWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION DOES THERE EXIST ANY AUTHORITY FOR THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT TO BESTOW UPON ANY OTHER BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT ANY POWERS WHATSOEVER.

The fact that STATES had state immigration officials from the time of the ratification of the Constitution until all the founders and framers were dead and buried - and the illegally ratified 14th Amendment passed testifies to the fact that you are doing little more than trying to justify National Socialism.
 
Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.

More misinformation... The United States is currently naturalizing more than 750,000 people per year. The so - called "illegals" will become citizens and if you stand in the way of the free enterprise system, they will soon be in complete control. You people that are obsessed with this mythical "illegal alien" B.S. need to study the issue if you want to retain your Rights for the next generation.

Only misinformation here is coming from you.

Illegals cannot be naturalized, since they're in the country illegally. Naturalization process is reserved for immigrants who have been permanent residents for at least five years, and comply with several eligibility requirements. Here is a little homework for you to study. Come back when you learn the lesson.

Naturalization Information


Between 1986 and 2001 there were approximately SEVEN amnesty periods whereby undocumented foreigners could become citizens. The facts kind of contradict what you are alleging. I worked in immigration law for several years and have forgotten more than you are capable of learning.

"undocumented foreigners"

You mean illegal aliens?

We're talking about current laws on books, not about your wish list. Without new immigration law passed by the Congress and signed by President, there is no amnesty, or naturalization, current laws are in force. If there are questions about current laws, refer to the link in my previous post. With your "expertise in immigration law", I sure hope you wont have problem finding it.

You are an idiot. The current immigration laws on the books were put there by the Democrats with the sole purpose of diluting the white vote and making whites a minority. The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to be involved in who an individual state does or does not allow into its borders. Maybe when your stupid white ass is called a domestic terrorist or an enemy combatant or illegal gun owner, etc. and you are presumed guilty; pursued without Due Process, you will get it: undocumented foreigner.

While Article I, Section 8, does not give Congress an enumerated power to restrict immigration, that authority is inherent in the structure of the Constitution or in the very nature of government. Since Article I includes an explicit grant of the power to establish a “uniform rule of naturalization”, therefore Federal government would have inherent power over immigration. Also, dunce... Congress have the power to “define and punish” offenses against “the law of nations”, and every illegal alien is subject to that punishment. An "expert" such as yourself, should've heard about plenary power doctrine, and if not, I'll get my kid crayons and will draw it for you.

Beside Congress, who define laws of the nation, Article II of the Constitution gives all “executive” power to the president, meaning it gives the president the authority to wield any power that is inherent to the nature of the “executive.” Presumably that concept includes power over immigration too. Since you're an "expert" who "worked in immigration law", you should know that, but I wouldn't bet my white ass on it. By the way, what color of my ass has to do with your shrieking?

You've been researching my old posts. If not for the "plenary power" doctrine, there would be no federal immigration laws. It's funny how the federal courts waited until 1875 to declare such a power AND NOWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION DOES THERE EXIST ANY AUTHORITY FOR THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT TO BESTOW UPON ANY OTHER BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT ANY POWERS WHATSOEVER.

The fact that STATES had state immigration officials from the time of the ratification of the Constitution until all the founders and framers were dead and buried - and the illegally ratified 14th Amendment passed testifies to the fact that you are doing little more than trying to justify National Socialism.

I don't know what old post you are referring to, and I believe this is my first interaction with you.

The Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution preempts state laws that interfere with or are contrary to federal law. States cannot and should not regulate their own immigration for a simple reason of commerce. Once admitted into United States, people can move freely, therefore if let's say Arizona let someone in, that someone can move to another state without oversight. Supreme Court has ruled that the federal government has broad and exclusive power to regulate immigration, and federal laws are preempting state and local laws that also attempt to do so.

Essentially, we are agreeing on technicalities. Only problem is that you are talking about "what it was", and I am talking about "what is now". Under current laws, Trump is completely within his powers in regards of immigration.
 
Merely observing population growth around 2008 when Barry got into office and comparing it to now you can see we went from about 2.6~ million growth per year to less than 1 million right now. This means we're removing quite a few migrants registered with USCIS. Keeping in mind as well there are other factors (migrants don't exist in a vacuum, there are other migrants relying on them) and the fact temporary residents are not factored into the population at all, the USA is actually removing people at a rapid pace.

In particular in 2018 we only had around 400K deportations, but it skyrocketed to about 1 million during 2019 as the engines of the deportation force put into place during the first two years finally got underway. People forget that Barry was only serving deportation orders put out for people arrested when Bush was president, since it takes a few years to get a trial. At the same time he dismantled the entire ICE force's ability to actually deport people beginning in 2009, which is why after 2013 the number of deportations drops off steeply as DAPA and DACA protected 1/3 of illegals from deportation. Trump's removal of these protections have immensely increased arrests.

In addition the number of illegals requesting to return home rather than be deported has increased exponentially under Trump, since they know they're fucked and controls against illegals who don't have forged residence documents have gotten much steeper while factory growth in countries like Mexico means it makes more sense for them to just fuck off- the USA isn't the goldmine it was 30 years ago and Mexico isn't as much of a "shithole". Now Guatemala is Mexico's Mexico and Mexicans are ree-ing because the USA won't let 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans cross into the USA from Mexico, sticking them with 1 million Guatemalans and Nicaraguans.

More misinformation... The United States is currently naturalizing more than 750,000 people per year. The so - called "illegals" will become citizens and if you stand in the way of the free enterprise system, they will soon be in complete control. You people that are obsessed with this mythical "illegal alien" B.S. need to study the issue if you want to retain your Rights for the next generation.

Only misinformation here is coming from you.

Illegals cannot be naturalized, since they're in the country illegally. Naturalization process is reserved for immigrants who have been permanent residents for at least five years, and comply with several eligibility requirements. Here is a little homework for you to study. Come back when you learn the lesson.

Naturalization Information


Between 1986 and 2001 there were approximately SEVEN amnesty periods whereby undocumented foreigners could become citizens. The facts kind of contradict what you are alleging. I worked in immigration law for several years and have forgotten more than you are capable of learning.

"undocumented foreigners"

You mean illegal aliens?

We're talking about current laws on books, not about your wish list. Without new immigration law passed by the Congress and signed by President, there is no amnesty, or naturalization, current laws are in force. If there are questions about current laws, refer to the link in my previous post. With your "expertise in immigration law", I sure hope you wont have problem finding it.

You are an idiot. The current immigration laws on the books were put there by the Democrats with the sole purpose of diluting the white vote and making whites a minority. The Constitution does not authorize the federal government to be involved in who an individual state does or does not allow into its borders. Maybe when your stupid white ass is called a domestic terrorist or an enemy combatant or illegal gun owner, etc. and you are presumed guilty; pursued without Due Process, you will get it: undocumented foreigner.

While Article I, Section 8, does not give Congress an enumerated power to restrict immigration, that authority is inherent in the structure of the Constitution or in the very nature of government. Since Article I includes an explicit grant of the power to establish a “uniform rule of naturalization”, therefore Federal government would have inherent power over immigration. Also, dunce... Congress have the power to “define and punish” offenses against “the law of nations”, and every illegal alien is subject to that punishment. An "expert" such as yourself, should've heard about plenary power doctrine, and if not, I'll get my kid crayons and will draw it for you.

Beside Congress, who define laws of the nation, Article II of the Constitution gives all “executive” power to the president, meaning it gives the president the authority to wield any power that is inherent to the nature of the “executive.” Presumably that concept includes power over immigration too. Since you're an "expert" who "worked in immigration law", you should know that, but I wouldn't bet my white ass on it. By the way, what color of my ass has to do with your shrieking?

You've been researching my old posts. If not for the "plenary power" doctrine, there would be no federal immigration laws. It's funny how the federal courts waited until 1875 to declare such a power AND NOWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION DOES THERE EXIST ANY AUTHORITY FOR THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT TO BESTOW UPON ANY OTHER BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT ANY POWERS WHATSOEVER.

The fact that STATES had state immigration officials from the time of the ratification of the Constitution until all the founders and framers were dead and buried - and the illegally ratified 14th Amendment passed testifies to the fact that you are doing little more than trying to justify National Socialism.

I don't know what old post you are referring to, and I believe this is my first interaction with you.

The Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution preempts state laws that interfere with or are contrary to federal law. States cannot and should not regulate their own immigration for a simple reason of commerce. Once admitted into United States, people can move freely, therefore if let's say Arizona let someone in, that someone can move to another state without oversight. Supreme Court has ruled that the federal government has broad and exclusive power to regulate immigration, and federal laws are preempting state and local laws that also attempt to do so.

Essentially, we are agreeing on technicalities. Only problem is that you are talking about "what it was", and I am talking about "what is now". Under current laws, Trump is completely within his powers in regards of immigration.

Trump's powers are based upon an unconstitutional act by the United States Supreme Court. This is not about whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game. The reality is, you cannot criminalize Liberty. You are conflating Liberty with citizenship. And I realize that regardless of my experience, you have more intelligence, inside info, insight, experience and will not benefit off of my words.

But, one day it might be your ass that gets descended upon by an army of feds who do not acknowledge your unalienable Rights (a fringe benefit of the Republicans who nullified the Bill of Rights.) When they beat you within an inch of your life, lock you up for days incommunicado, and threaten you, it is my fervent prayer that you live to tell about it so that you get what the point I'm trying to make to you is. A few years entangled in court actions might help you understand the issue beyond your personal prejudices as well. Immigration is citizenship. according to Blacks Law Dictionary (the most authoritative legal dictionary used in the legal community) immigration is defined as follows:
"The coming Into a country of foreigners for purposes of permanent residence."


NOBODY is within their authority to commit unconstitutional acts. A robber has the power to take your money at gunpoint, but he lacks the authority. Ditto for this out of control government. People coming here to engage in the free market, not seeking permanent residence are not beholden to the federal government under a de jure / lawful / legal / constitutional Republic as envisioned by the founders. In 1790 (less than six months after the ratification of the Constitution) Congress passed the first Naturalization Law. It limited citizenship to free white persons. Still, people from all over the globe came here to engage in the free market. Why you believe that people have to become citizens or put under federal control and their Liberty limited is beyond me. IF employers were allowed to hire the employee of their choosing, I think a lot of communities would become predominantly white and the multicultural districts would choke themselves to death. That is what our country's history shows. You cannot build a government big enough to save you from your own stupidity.

An avidity to punish is always dangerous to liberty. It leads men to stretch, to misinterpret, and to misapply even the best of laws. He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates his duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.” (Thomas Paine, founding father)
 
American jobs, American workers are like the dodo. I've seen Taxi drivers, forklift operators, carpenters, plumbers, die builders...tradesmen vanish under the thumb of globalist that hire slipshod Mexican workers because..."profit uber ales".
No you haven't- you've seen change, which is inevitable. It's a one constant in this world that you deal with or don't. The Mexicans I know and have known are hard workers. And I assure you, there are a lot more of them down here than there are in Colorado- I suspect you're just prejudice.
Anecdote: My ex wife and I and another couple drove to a skiing trip in Colorado years ago- we stopped to eat somewhere in Colorado. I went to the restroom to pee, and on the wall, above the urinal was a hand written sign that stated: Texans go home and take a Mexican with you-
Colorado has some pretty country, but the attitude is pretty sanctimonious - if not down right hypocritical since a lot of it's state income is from outsiders (including Texans) visiting- the Mexicans clean your hotel rooms and mow your yards and clean your filthy bathrooms- you have no room to talk so piously.


Fuck you you ignorant asshole, your experience doesn't invalidate that of anyone else. So just STFU.

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Your experience has to be relevant to the subject at hand. Gdjjr has a lot of relevant experience and contacts you don't have.
 
Fuck you you ignorant asshole, your experience doesn't invalidate that of anyone else. So just STFU.
LOL- I may be ignorant, but we're all born that way. Some, if not many, like yourself, are arrogant fools working on a PhD in STUPID-
 
American jobs, American workers are like the dodo. I've seen Taxi drivers, forklift operators, carpenters, plumbers, die builders...tradesmen vanish under the thumb of globalist that hire slipshod Mexican workers because..."profit uber ales".
No you haven't- you've seen change, which is inevitable. It's a one constant in this world that you deal with or don't. The Mexicans I know and have known are hard workers. And I assure you, there are a lot more of them down here than there are in Colorado- I suspect you're just prejudice.
Anecdote: My ex wife and I and another couple drove to a skiing trip in Colorado years ago- we stopped to eat somewhere in Colorado. I went to the restroom to pee, and on the wall, above the urinal was a hand written sign that stated: Texans go home and take a Mexican with you-
Colorado has some pretty country, but the attitude is pretty sanctimonious - if not down right hypocritical since a lot of it's state income is from outsiders (including Texans) visiting- the Mexicans clean your hotel rooms and mow your yards and clean your filthy bathrooms- you have no room to talk so piously.


Fuck you you ignorant asshole, your experience doesn't invalidate that of anyone else. So just STFU.

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Your experience has to be relevant to the subject at hand. Gdjjr has a lot of relevant experience and contacts you don't have.


You're as stupid as that other ignorant asshole, you're making assumptions about someone you have no knowledge of, just like him. So feel free to FOAD.

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