Porter Rockwell
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Mark,Straw man hyperbole- ALL men have certain unalienable rights- there are no ethnic caveats.So, your point is that we have no right to this land and it is the right of Mexicans and the like to take it from us?
If an unalienable right means anything, it also means that the people that are being invaded are also being denied their rights.
Mark
The Anti Liberty / POLICE STATE / MAGA (APMs) supporters have not articulated a Right they were denied because a foreigner came into the United States. Did someone deny you a Right you had by taking advantage of an opportunity willingly offered?
IF undocumented foreigners are getting any of your tax money, it is because the government YOU voted for gave it to them OR they are stealing it... in which case the APMs already got the Orwellian National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify crap passed and that was supposed to catch those people - at a great loss to your Liberties as well as mine. Remember what Benjamin Franklin said that those who trade essential Liberty for the promise of temporary Safety deserve neither? It's because once you forfeit your Liberty you forfeit Safety as well.
Be specific and tell me what Rights you've been denied on account of non-citizens participating in the free market.
Let me simply say this. Open borders are incompatible with a welfare state.
Mark
Now you're quoting Milton Friedman. Milton Friedman did not believe in a welfare state. Neither should we.
Post 163No, you haven't.I answered your question. Now answer mine.
Post no. 163
Mark
1. Most of that seemed to be supporting your example as a valid example of a problem. Which I did not challenge sooo.
2. If your solution is to bring in cheap foreign labor to do the work, then I will oppose you, no matter whether or not you deny personal responsibility for the results of your policy.
3. You suggest fixing our culture. Sounds good. I don't how or why allowing immigrants to flood our country while doing that, would be a good policy.
Nowhere do I see my question answered. So, when are you going to answer it?
Do you or do you not believe in UNalienable rights. Simple yes or no will do.
Do you still beat your wife? A simple yes or no will do. Yes, I believe in unalienable rights. I also believe that the rights of others does not give them a right to invade your home. If a person brought his family into your home, does he have a right to stay there without your permission?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
Mark
Mark, when Americans and foreigners do business willingly, the Americans have consented to that relationship. So, they have permission - though not necessary since unalienable Rights preceded the founding of government and are above the laws of man.
But, do tell, what Rights have been taken from you by way of foreigners engaging in the free market.
Not foreigners. Illegals. When Trump finally tried to limit the illegals in this country, wages went up. That was not a coincidence.
Mark
Mark, without taking sides, do you support the Constitution of the United States as originally written and intended OR do you support the Democrats version of a "living" Constitution?