A Failed Presidency

[DontBeStupid]

The healthcare bill was unpopular with Americans....they didn't want it.

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

 

[The Rabbi]

The healthcare bill was unpopular with Americans....they didn't want it.

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

So GOP operatives (care to name any?) made people turn against Obamacare? Is it a surprise to you that in fact the more people learned about Obamacare, the lower it polled?

 

[Meister]

The healthcare bill was unpopular with Americans....they didn't want it.

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

They still don't want it even with no death panels.
Now they're seeing what is actually in the bill and not liking it. Not to mention the perception that if it's so good why all the waivers.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Oh how we all long for the awful 4% Unemployment and Record High Stock Market BOOOOOSH days. Remember when Kerry called that a "Depression?" What the hell is he calling this Hopey Changey calamity? America has been downgraded under this Democrat reign. That's just fact. Time for real change in 2012.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The healthcare bill was unpopular with Americans....they didn't want it.

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

Call 'em what you will, but the IPAB does have say over who gets what care.

 

[The T]

The healthcare bill was unpopular with Americans....they didn't want it.

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

Call 'em what you will, but the IPAB does have say over who gets what care.

IPAB, Obama, and Socialism

They’re back. Rationing, death panels, socialism, all those nasty old words that helped bring Republicans victory in 2010, and that came to seem so impolite after November of that year. They’re back because of IPAB. Remember that acronym. It stand for The Independent Payment Advisory Board. IPAB is the real death panel, the true seat of rationing, and the royal road to health-care socialism. President Obama won’t admit to any of that, but his speech in response to Paul Ryan’s plan did push IPAB out of the shadows and into public view, however briefly. If Republicans don’t seize the IPAB issue and run with it, they’ll be losers in 2012.

In his speech on the deficit, Obama pointed to IPAB as an answer to Paul Ryan’s plan. In Ryan’s vision, competition among insurers will force efficiencies and lower prices. Under Obama’s plan, in contrast, health-care prices for the elderly would be controlled by IPAB. Ryan’s plan puts consumers in the driver’s seat, but also exposes them to the risk of bad choices and limited subsidies. While Obama’s plan offers government-guaranteed care, IPAB’s price controls will lead to one-size-fits-all rationing. As IPAB caps Medicare payments for various services, the elderly will be unable to obtain many kinds of care, or will experience de facto rationing via long treatment delays and sharp declines in the quality of care. And by the way, IPAB rationing will hit many current seniors, whereas Ryan’s reform of Medicare will never affect anyone now 55 or older.

 

[The T]

Oh how we all long for the awful 4% Unemployment and Record High Stock Market BOOOOOSH days. Remember when Kerry called that a "Depression?" What the hell is he calling this Hopey Changey calamity? America has been downgraded under this Democrat reign. That's just fact. Time for real change in 2012.

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[The T]

The healthcare bill was unpopular with Americans....they didn't want it.

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

So GOP operatives (care to name any?) made people turn against Obamacare? Is it a surprise to you that in fact the more people learned about Obamacare, the lower it polled?

How could they be turned from it when they were opposed to it from the beginning? The Democrats having the majority BOUGHT it while turning a deaf ear to the people.

 

[Moonglow]

The healthcare bill was unpopular with Americans....they didn't want it.

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

Call 'em what you will, but the IPAB does have say over who gets what care.

and private insurance companies have underwriters that pull the plug on Grandma.

 

[The T]

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

Call 'em what you will, but the IPAB does have say over who gets what care.

and private insurance companies have underwriters that pull the plug on Grandma.

IPAB will do it sooner...

 

[Cuyo]

He is "Commandante Zero": Zero economic growth, zero jobs growth, zero ideas.

Yeah, as opposed to what it was when he first sat in; Negative economic growth, 700k job losses per month, and bad ideas.

You are fucking BORING rabbi...

 

[elvis]

The healthcare bill was unpopular with Americans....they didn't want it.

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

So you ARE afraid of Palin.

 

[Ernie S.]

The failed "Community Organizer" is now a failed President. Why are so many so surprised by that? What did he do for Chicago? Check it out for yourself. He had no successes to run on in the first place. So how did he become President? I'll let you speculate on that yourself.

How? He was elected by a majority of voters. I believe he won by more then 9,000,000 votes. A decisive victory, I'd say. Compare that to Bush's second term. He won by getting less of the popular vote than Kerry. Bush should thank God for the electoral vote and the conservative Supreme Court.

Just how did the SCOTUS affect the 2004 election?

 

[Ernie S.]

Failed is getting all those Seals killed making them ride a "bus" into combat.

You don't seriously blame Obama for the deaths of those SEALS, do you?

About as much as you credit obama with killing OBL

 

[The T]

Failed is getting all those Seals killed making them ride a "bus" into combat.

You don't seriously blame Obama for the deaths of those SEALS, do you?

About as much as you credit obama with killing OBL

Obama didn't do a thing but get outta the way and let the pros handle the situation.

Now? If he would do the same thing with the economy?

 

[Salt Jones]

Such talk means exposure to violent retribution by unions.

Just nod and say mmm mmm mmm.

Good thing I'm in a union or I'd be worried.

 

[The T]

The healthcare bill was unpopular with Americans....they didn't want it.

Does this surprise anyone? GOP operatives were criss-crossing the country telling seniors there would be "death panels".

So you ARE afraid of Palin.

Nah...the TEA Party (meaning the Taxpayer...better known as the people footing the bill as such are pissed at the government screwing them).

 

[Charles_Main]

Obama averted another PUB depression, passed the most important social legislation ever. The only fail since 1/2010 is the do nothing, block everything, fear mongering, a-hole hater pubs in congress, and their ignorant, silly dupes. They have to change now or reap the benefits in 2012- America ain't that dumb...hoping for your recovery. tyvm

Possibly the Dumbest poster of the week.

Obama has done a couple things right. Other than that it has been one disaster after another. And calling Obamacare the most Important Social Legislation every is ludicrous. It fails in every aspect. It will not cover everyone, It will not lower costs, and it's core idea of how to get people who can not afford insurance to but Insurance, is simply to FORCE them to.

Even a far lefty that wants "Free" Health Care for all, If they are honest, has to admit Obamacare falls far short of a solution.

 

[The T]

Obama averted another PUB depression, passed the most important social legislation ever. The only fail since 1/2010 is the do nothing, block everything, fear mongering, a-hole hater pubs in congress, and their ignorant, silly dupes. They have to change now or reap the benefits in 2012- America ain't that dumb...hoping for your recovery. tyvm

Possibly the Dumbest poster of the week.

Obama has done a couple things right. Other than that it has been one disaster after another. And calling Obamacare the most Important Social Legislation every is ludicrous. It fails in every aspect. It will not cover everyone, It will not lower costs, and it's core idea of how to get people who can not afford insurance to but Insurance, is simply to FORCE them to.

Even a far lefty that wants "Free" Health Care for all, If they are honest, has to admit Obamacare falls far short of a solution.

And failing to recognioze there is nothing FREE in life. Someone pays for it in some form or fashion.

 

[Ernie S.]

You don't seriously blame Obama for the deaths of those SEALS, do you?

About as much as you credit obama with killing OBL

Obama didn't do a thing but get outta the way and let the pros handle the situation.

Now? If he would do the same thing with the economy?

Must spread... But I owe you.