A citizen with a gun took out the Texas killer as he fled.

[Hutch Starskey]

May have very well saved dozens of more lives had he had plans to go on a further shooting spree.

Not before that dirty white boy did his thing. We'd better check Trump's tweets to see what to do.

Oh. There is none.

No ban? No wall? WTF?

 

[2aguy]

Great.

Here's the difference between the UK and US.

In the UK the shooter didn't have a gun so didn't shoot anyone. Therefore the armed civilian didn't have a gun and couldn't stop the shooter not shooting anyone.

In the US the shooter had a gun and killed at least 26 people but the armed civilian had a gun and could come along and stop it.

The right wing in the US will therefore see this as guns being positive because guns stopped the whole thing, whereas without guns the armed civilian couldn't stop the shooter from killing people, even though he wasn't killing anyone because he didn't have a gun.

What a twisted place America is.

Maybe in your fantasy land. However in the real world this is happening.

Gun crime in London increases by 42%


The Met Police's figures showed there were 2,544 gun crime offences from April 2016 to April 2017 compared to 1,793 offences from 2015 until 2016.

Knife crime also increased by 24% with 12,074 recorded offences from 2016 to 2017.

The Met said although crime rates were rising they remained at a much lower level than five years ago.

Scotland Yard registered annual rises across a number of serious offence categories in the past 12 months, following several years of falls.

The total number of offences during the 2016 to 2017 financial year was 774,737, an increase of 4% from the previous year when total offences stood at 740,933.

Knife crime offences that resulted in an injury also increased, by 21% to 4,415 from 2016 to 2017, compared to 3,663 offences the year before.

The force said robbery offences, which increased 12% year-on-year, were at about half the level of 2006-2007 and there were 58 fewer homicides this year compared to 10 years ago.


Gun crime in London rises by 42%

But...how do gun crime rates go up....if they completely banned handguns and rifles for civilians?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Link?

It was just reported on the news. I can not find a link yet. Will this do?

View attachment 158825

Dope.

 

[MindWars]

 

[depotoo]

It was the press conference where it was stated. He isn’t the only one that heard it.

Link?

It was just reported on the news. I can not find a link yet. Will this do?

View attachment 158825

What network were you watching?

 

[westwall]

Great.

Here's the difference between the UK and US.

In the UK the shooter didn't have a gun so didn't shoot anyone. Therefore the armed civilian didn't have a gun and couldn't stop the shooter not shooting anyone.

In the US the shooter had a gun and killed at least 26 people but the armed civilian had a gun and could come along and stop it.

The right wing in the US will therefore see this as guns being positive because guns stopped the whole thing, whereas without guns the armed civilian couldn't stop the shooter from killing people, even though he wasn't killing anyone because he didn't have a gun.

What a twisted place America is.

Maybe in your fantasy land. However in the real world this is happening.

Gun crime in London increases by 42%


The Met Police's figures showed there were 2,544 gun crime offences from April 2016 to April 2017 compared to 1,793 offences from 2015 until 2016.

Knife crime also increased by 24% with 12,074 recorded offences from 2016 to 2017.

The Met said although crime rates were rising they remained at a much lower level than five years ago.

Scotland Yard registered annual rises across a number of serious offence categories in the past 12 months, following several years of falls.

The total number of offences during the 2016 to 2017 financial year was 774,737, an increase of 4% from the previous year when total offences stood at 740,933.

Knife crime offences that resulted in an injury also increased, by 21% to 4,415 from 2016 to 2017, compared to 3,663 offences the year before.

The force said robbery offences, which increased 12% year-on-year, were at about half the level of 2006-2007 and there were 58 fewer homicides this year compared to 10 years ago.


Gun crime in London rises by 42%

But...how do gun crime rates go up....if they completely banned handguns and rifles for civilians?

And don't forget, no gun shops either. Well only if you don't count H&H and Purdey who cater to the rich and super rich. Amazingly enough the very people pushing gun control always find ways to exempt themselves.

 

[Peach]

Link?

It was just reported on the news. I can not find a link yet. Will this do?

View attachment 158825

What network were you watching?

It was local news on a football commercial. Channel 5 I think?

I saw the man referenced as a neighbor of the church.

 

[Dr Grump]

And yes this is political as the demands for gun control if implemented could have allowed this killer to get away.

If you had decent gun laws he wouldn't have had a gun in the first place.

 

[Peach]

No transcript or captions.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

He was dishonorably discharged from the Air Force 3 years ago. He couldn’t legally own a weapon.

And yes this is political as the demands for gun control if implemented could have allowed this killer to get away.

Or made the hoops for getting a gun enough to discourage the killer from getting one, and 26 people would still be alive today.

Possibly but do we even know how he got his gun yet? I assume it was legal as it was on his Facebook page before they took down his profile.

I don’t know. If he really wanted one, he could get one easily anyways since we’ve been so completely lax on gun laws for so many decades.

What does does the legal gun owner have in common with the illegal gun owner?

They both have availability.

 

[Dr Grump]

I've decided to become a filthy liberal.

Let us know when you start....

 

[sealybobo]

May have very well saved dozens of more lives had he had plans to go on a further shooting spree.

The shooter was a citizen with a gun too. Maybe people with dishonorable discharges shouldn't be able to buy more than a shotgun, 22, muzzle loader or crossbow?

See there could have been a regulation that would have stopped this. No guns for people who are dishonorably discharged.

 

[depotoo]

Honey, you take away guns, the criminal still has them, not the law abiding citizen.

He was dishonorably discharged from the Air Force 3 years ago. He couldn’t legally own a weapon.

And yes this is political as the demands for gun control if implemented could have allowed this killer to get away.

Or made the hoops for getting a gun enough to discourage the killer from getting one, and 26 people would still be alive today.

Possibly but do we even know how he got his gun yet? I assume it was legal as it was on his Facebook page before they took down his profile.

I don’t know. If he really wanted one, he could get one easily anyways since we’ve been so completely lax on gun laws for so many decades.

What does does the legal gun owner have in common with the illegal gun owner?

They both have availability.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

And yes this is political as the demands for gun control if implemented could have allowed this killer to get away.

If you had decent gun laws he wouldn't have had a gun in the first place.

Hard to say since no one knows how he got his weapon. Jumping to conclusions solves nothing.

 

[2aguy]

Great.

Here's the difference between the UK and US.

In the UK the shooter didn't have a gun so didn't shoot anyone. Therefore the armed civilian didn't have a gun and couldn't stop the shooter not shooting anyone.

In the US the shooter had a gun and killed at least 26 people but the armed civilian had a gun and could come along and stop it.

The right wing in the US will therefore see this as guns being positive because guns stopped the whole thing, whereas without guns the armed civilian couldn't stop the shooter from killing people, even though he wasn't killing anyone because he didn't have a gun.

What a twisted place America is.

Maybe in your fantasy land. However in the real world this is happening.

Gun crime in London increases by 42%


The Met Police's figures showed there were 2,544 gun crime offences from April 2016 to April 2017 compared to 1,793 offences from 2015 until 2016.

Knife crime also increased by 24% with 12,074 recorded offences from 2016 to 2017.

The Met said although crime rates were rising they remained at a much lower level than five years ago.

Scotland Yard registered annual rises across a number of serious offence categories in the past 12 months, following several years of falls.

The total number of offences during the 2016 to 2017 financial year was 774,737, an increase of 4% from the previous year when total offences stood at 740,933.

Knife crime offences that resulted in an injury also increased, by 21% to 4,415 from 2016 to 2017, compared to 3,663 offences the year before.

The force said robbery offences, which increased 12% year-on-year, were at about half the level of 2006-2007 and there were 58 fewer homicides this year compared to 10 years ago.


Gun crime in London rises by 42%

But...how do gun crime rates go up....if they completely banned handguns and rifles for civilians?

And don't forget, no gun shops either. Well only if you don't count H&H and Purdey who cater to the rich and super rich. Amazingly enough the very people pushing gun control always find ways to exempt themselves.

Funny how that works....I keep hoping a reporter will do an expose on the Private security agencies the rich and famous use to protect themselves...while they try to ban guns for the poor and minorities in this country....

 

[depotoo]

It was illegal for him to own guns after his dishonorable discharge.

May have very well saved dozens of more lives had he had plans to go on a further shooting spree.

The shooter was a citizen with a gun too. Maybe people with dishonorable discharges shouldn't be able to buy more than a shotgun, 22, muzzle loader or crossbow?

See there could have been a regulation that would have stopped this. No guns for people who are dishonorably discharged.

 

[iceberg]

And yes this is political as the demands for gun control if implemented could have allowed this killer to get away.

Or made the hoops for getting a gun enough to discourage the killer from getting one, and 26 people would still be alive today.

You want to go on a shooting spree.

Waiting a few days for guns will change your mind?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Close the gates, raise the drawbridge and ready the walls!

What? We're not doing that???

WTF?

 

[2aguy]

And yes this is political as the demands for gun control if implemented could have allowed this killer to get away.

Or made the hoops for getting a gun enough to discourage the killer from getting one, and 26 people would still be alive today.

You want to go on a shooting spree.

Waiting a few days for guns will change your mind?

Yes....mass public shooters plan their attacks for 6 months to two years.....I think that also covers even a 10 day waiting period...

 

[depotoo]

In many states a dishonorable discharge is deemed the equivalent of a felony conviction, with attendant loss of civil rights. Additionally, US federal law prohibits possession of firearms by those who have been dishonorably discharged per the Gun Control Act of 1968.