9 Crucial Ways Denmark is Superior to the US

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Denmark vs United States: Military Facts and Stats

Armed forces

22,000
Ranked 92nd.

1.37 million
Ranked 3rd.

They do not need to spend a whole lot of money on the military so they have extra money that can go to social programs.

All Western nations spend less in the order of magnitude of half on Healthcare. The US spends 17 percent of its GDP on Healthcare and around 4 on military spending. So if you would add that same percentage of GDP completely to what these nations spend on Healthcare they STILL would not spend as much as the US on its for profit Healthcare system.
So just this one aspect of social security would more than offset the increase.
I'm not taking into consideration that most Western nations buy their military hardware often from the US there by directly supporting and enriching the US.

 

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Denmark vs United States: Military Facts and Stats

Armed forces

22,000
Ranked 92nd.

1.37 million
Ranked 3rd.

They do not need to spend a whole lot of money on the military so they have extra money that can go to social programs.

All Western nations spend less in the order of magnitude of half on Healthcare. The US spends 17 percent of its GDP on Healthcare and around 4 on military spending. So if you would add that same percentage of GDP completely to what these nations spend on Healthcare they STILL would not spend as much as the US on its for profit Healthcare system.
So just this one aspect of social security would more than offset the increase.
I'm not taking into consideration that most Western nations buy their military hardware often from the US there by directly supporting and enriching the US.

VAT tax.


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Denmark vs United States: Military Facts and Stats

Armed forces

22,000
Ranked 92nd.

1.37 million
Ranked 3rd.

They do not need to spend a whole lot of money on the military so they have extra money that can go to social programs.

All Western nations spend less in the order of magnitude of half on Healthcare. The US spends 17 percent of its GDP on Healthcare and around 4 on military spending. So if you would add that same percentage of GDP completely to what these nations spend on Healthcare they STILL would not spend as much as the US on its for profit Healthcare system.
So just this one aspect of social security would more than offset the increase.
I'm not taking into consideration that most Western nations buy their military hardware often from the US there by directly supporting and enriching the US.

Well it is difficult to compare the 2 as the ranking indicates, The percentage seems low but lets put a dollar figure on it

The approved 2019 Department of Defense budget is $686.1 billion
China is 2nd with and estimated 250 billion

SA with the highest percent of GDP at a whopping 8%, I wonder who are they are gearing up to fight

 

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Denmark vs United States: Military Facts and Stats

Armed forces

22,000
Ranked 92nd.

1.37 million
Ranked 3rd.

They do not need to spend a whole lot of money on the military so they have extra money that can go to social programs.

All Western nations spend less in the order of magnitude of half on Healthcare. The US spends 17 percent of its GDP on Healthcare and around 4 on military spending. So if you would add that same percentage of GDP completely to what these nations spend on Healthcare they STILL would not spend as much as the US on its for profit Healthcare system.
So just this one aspect of social security would more than offset the increase.
I'm not taking into consideration that most Western nations buy their military hardware often from the US there by directly supporting and enriching the US.

VAT tax.


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What added value? I suggest you look up the military budgets for the EU and that of Russia. It's not close and favors... the EU. So spare me the Europe will be overrun without the US. It simply does not mesh with facts.

 

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Denmark vs United States: Military Facts and Stats

Armed forces

22,000
Ranked 92nd.

1.37 million
Ranked 3rd.

They do not need to spend a whole lot of money on the military so they have extra money that can go to social programs.

All Western nations spend less in the order of magnitude of half on Healthcare. The US spends 17 percent of its GDP on Healthcare and around 4 on military spending. So if you would add that same percentage of GDP completely to what these nations spend on Healthcare they STILL would not spend as much as the US on its for profit Healthcare system.
So just this one aspect of social security would more than offset the increase.
I'm not taking into consideration that most Western nations buy their military hardware often from the US there by directly supporting and enriching the US.

Well it is difficult to compare the 2 as the ranking indicates, The percentage seems low but lets put a dollar figure on it

The approved 2019 Department of Defense budget is $686.1 billion
China is 2nd with and estimated 250 billion

SA with the highest percent of GDP at a whopping 8%, I wonder who are they are gearing up to fight

It's not hard to put a figure on it. Percentage of GDP is a perfect expression of the relative wealth they devote to a particular item. The reason the US spend more in absolute numbers is that they have the largest economy. When comparing relative strength of course absolute numbers are the determining factor but in the context of this OP not relevant.

 

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Denmark vs United States: Military Facts and Stats

Armed forces

22,000
Ranked 92nd.

1.37 million
Ranked 3rd.

They do not need to spend a whole lot of money on the military so they have extra money that can go to social programs.

All Western nations spend less in the order of magnitude of half on Healthcare. The US spends 17 percent of its GDP on Healthcare and around 4 on military spending. So if you would add that same percentage of GDP completely to what these nations spend on Healthcare they STILL would not spend as much as the US on its for profit Healthcare system.
So just this one aspect of social security would more than offset the increase.
I'm not taking into consideration that most Western nations buy their military hardware often from the US there by directly supporting and enriching the US.

Well it is difficult to compare the 2 as the ranking indicates, The percentage seems low but lets put a dollar figure on it

The approved 2019 Department of Defense budget is $686.1 billion
China is 2nd with and estimated 250 billion

SA with the highest percent of GDP at a whopping 8%, I wonder who are they are gearing up to fight

It's not hard to put a figure on it. Percentage of GDP is a perfect expression of the relative wealth they devote to a particular item. The reason the US spend more in absolute numbers is that they have the largest economy. When comparing relative strength of course absolute numbers are the determining factor but in the context of this OP not relevant.

As to the number seeming low. Find me a source that contradicts it. By the way I'm not sourcing because I'm posting on my phone and it's to cumbersome to do so.

 

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The evidence is quite compelling. Repubs like to think that both they, and the US, is superior to anyone else in the world but the truth is countries like Denmark are really just laughing at them.

1) Unemployed workers get 90% of their previous salary for two years.

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salarypaid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2) Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US does.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens.2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3) Denmark is the happiest place on Earth

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4)Denmark has the shortest work week on average.

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 37 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5) Denmark pays students $900 per month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6) Denmark has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7) Denmark has one of the lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

8) Denmark is rated #1 for best country for business

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.

Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.

Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9) New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid leave. US parents don't get shit.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child. But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like. Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be, or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together and demanded it from our government?


Here are 9 reasons Denmark's socialist economy leaves the US in the dust

Cool, there are now 9 new ways for you to gtfo of America.

Don't like it here? Put your money where your mouth is. Stop being a hypocrite by taking advantage of a capitalist economy to post your socialist propaganda. Go live somewhere that suits your economic views.

Simple.

Go on. Git. Don't let me catch you celebrating the 4th of July either.

Lol what I do is irrelevant TK. You do know that right? Of course I would rather fix what’s wrong with the US than move to Denmark

Scholarships, loans and grants are fine but when it is reported that " At the end of January, the US economy had 7.6 million unfilled jobs, but only 6.5 million people were looking for work, according to data released Friday by the US Department of Labor. This was the 11th straight month that the number of job openings was higher than the number of job seekers. And each month, the gap has grown"

why isn't a college education cheaper when the the benefits outweigh the preoccupation with sports. Athletic scholarships for a winning season VS scholarships to fill high paying jobs.

which is a better return on the investment?

Guaranteed student loans are what led to high tuition...just like the healthcare field can charge higher prices because insurance plans and Medi-Care will pay.....

Denmark's population is around 5.8 million people. It also has a central bank and it's debt is around 36% of their GDP. and the tax rate is around 56%..........

It is absurd to suggest that our nation is incapable of emulating European nations.

It is absurd to want to emulate European nations.

It is absurd to want to emulate European nations.

It's fine if that's your opinion, but don't suggest we couldn't. That's bullshit.

It is absurd to want to emulate European nations.

It's fine if that's your opinion, but don't suggest we couldn't. That's bullshit.

That is based on everyone complying and agreeing to have the majority of their wages confiscated to fund it. How do you propose enforcement? By gunpoint?

I'm thinking by the same means as they use now to force people to pay debt.

The evidence is quite compelling. Repubs like to think that both they, and the US, is superior to anyone else in the world but the truth is countries like Denmark are really just laughing at them.

1) Unemployed workers get 90% of their previous salary for two years.

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salarypaid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2) Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US does.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens.2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3) Denmark is the happiest place on Earth

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4)Denmark has the shortest work week on average.

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 37 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5) Denmark pays students $900 per month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6) Denmark has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7) Denmark has one of the lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

8) Denmark is rated #1 for best country for business

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.

Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.

Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9) New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid leave. US parents don't get shit.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child. But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like. Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be, or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together and demanded it from our government?


Here are 9 reasons Denmark's socialist economy leaves the US in the dust

Denmark has a small population, and the government owns Royal Dutch Shell, one of the largest oil companies in the world to help pay for everything. They enjoy almost no illegal immigrants, and their government is one of the least corrupt on the planet.

So yes Denmark is a great place. But it is also unique.

I am going to quote you people, because 1 is the OP, 1 is another far Leftist like the OP, and most of the rest of you have a funny feeling, that something is really wrong here with the OPs thread, and YOU WOULD BE CORRECT, because all of you being on here for awhile, have you EVER KNOWN BILLY BALONEY to insure he tells you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Of course he doesn't, or he is to dumb to find out, take your pick!

Denmark has the HIGHEST PERSONAL taxrates in the EU, but you already knew that. Billy tells you they are happy campers, because for those tax rates, they get all this supposed free stuff, and just look at them Billy will tell you, for just 52, to 55% of your income, you to can be HAPPY CAMPERS, lol.

EL WRONGO!

You see, being the gaslighting propagandist he is, Billy-E-Baloney and his Leftist friends, forgot to mention a dirty little secret, that they hope you can't figure out.

What is that DIRTY LITTLE SECRET?

Why, let me post it for you, and then you can also go to multiple sites to verify that I am correct-)

Value-Added Tax (VAT) Rates in Europe

If you don't like that one, try this one------->VAT in Denmark - Danish VAT Rates & Number Registration | VAT Global


Now then, once you take into account THE TAX I JUST POSTED, then add it to their personal tax rates, you tell Mr Baloney what the REAL tax rates are-)

And finally, lets see how they do their pricing there, shall we-) Why, we gotta know if Bill Baloney has to take 5 bucks, or 10 bucks with him when he moves there, cause we all know, he won't need much more, since everything is for free-)

Let us check it out------>Denmark vs United States: Cost of living Facts and Stats

So there you have it, Billy Baloneys utopia, and I hope Billy likes it there. Anyone want to pitch in a buck for a one way ticket for him with me!

Billy nor me, nor anyone on the left for that matter claims that tax rates aren't higher in theses countries. What we are claiming is that those high tax rates make for a society that's better. It's the same disconnect I see over and over again. If services are paid for by taxes it's bad. If those same services are paid out of pocket it's good. The fact that you have to pay more for those same services isn't important because at least it's not a tax.
Let me ask you something. If I buy a TV online for 500 dollars. And you by that same TV in the store for 1000 dollar. Who bought more sensible ?

 

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Denmark's population is around 5.8 million people. It also has a central bank and it's debt is around 36% of their GDP. and the tax rate is around 56%..........

It is absurd to suggest that our nation is incapable of emulating European nations.

It is absurd to believe that you could use the socialist model of a country of 5.8 million and apply it to a country that has 360 million people with 30 million illegals that are poorly skilled, poorly educated. Denmark is 16,777 square miles, America is 3.797 million square miles with a very diverse population.

Actually I'm European and our population is just as diverse. The people coming in have different origins. (Syrians,Moroccons, Turks not to mention other African nations instead of South Americans.) It does not however take down our standard of living. As to education. That's why you have an affordable education systems.

As to being more spread out. Explain how that fact would make socialism less easy? Germany is way bigger still works. France to. In fact the result is the same all across Europe or for that matter Japan... . it works.

You call 56 percent in taxation "working"? Germany is collapsing under their debt and eventually all socialist countries will fall because eventually no one will see the value in participating in the labor pool if they can derive the same standard of living by not working as those that do....why should they?

By the way. I worked around 800 hours of overtime last year alone. I do this because I need to make a mortgage. I do this because I drive a decent automobile. I do this because I don't want to worry about an unexpected expense. I do this because my wife is American and she needs to visit her family.
Why do you think that because I can survive and my kid could go to college if I don't that I won't have those ambitions in life? Do you realize that's actually a bit insulting?

 

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The evidence is quite compelling. Repubs like to think that both they, and the US, is superior to anyone else in the world but the truth is countries like Denmark are really just laughing at them.

1) Unemployed workers get 90% of their previous salary for two years.

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salarypaid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2) Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US does.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens.2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3) Denmark is the happiest place on Earth

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4)Denmark has the shortest work week on average.

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 37 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5) Denmark pays students $900 per month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6) Denmark has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7) Denmark has one of the lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

8) Denmark is rated #1 for best country for business

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.

Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.

Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9) New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid leave. US parents don't get shit.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child. But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like. Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be, or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together and demanded it from our government?


Here are 9 reasons Denmark's socialist economy leaves the US in the dust

Cool, there are now 9 new ways for you to gtfo of America.

Don't like it here? Put your money where your mouth is. Stop being a hypocrite by taking advantage of a capitalist economy to post your socialist propaganda. Go live somewhere that suits your economic views.

Simple.

Go on. Git. Don't let me catch you celebrating the 4th of July either.

Lol what I do is irrelevant TK. You do know that right? Of course I would rather fix what’s wrong with the US than move to Denmark

Scholarships, loans and grants are fine but when it is reported that " At the end of January, the US economy had 7.6 million unfilled jobs, but only 6.5 million people were looking for work, according to data released Friday by the US Department of Labor. This was the 11th straight month that the number of job openings was higher than the number of job seekers. And each month, the gap has grown"

why isn't a college education cheaper when the the benefits outweigh the preoccupation with sports. Athletic scholarships for a winning season VS scholarships to fill high paying jobs.

which is a better return on the investment?

Guaranteed student loans are what led to high tuition...just like the healthcare field can charge higher prices because insurance plans and Medi-Care will pay.....

Denmark's population is around 5.8 million people. It also has a central bank and it's debt is around 36% of their GDP. and the tax rate is around 56%..........

It is absurd to suggest that our nation is incapable of emulating European nations.

It is absurd to want to emulate European nations.

It is absurd to want to emulate European nations.

It's fine if that's your opinion, but don't suggest we couldn't. That's bullshit.

It is absurd to want to emulate European nations.

It's fine if that's your opinion, but don't suggest we couldn't. That's bullshit.

That is based on everyone complying and agreeing to have the majority of their wages confiscated to fund it. How do you propose enforcement? By gunpoint?

I'm thinking by the same means as they use now to force people to pay debt.

The evidence is quite compelling. Repubs like to think that both they, and the US, is superior to anyone else in the world but the truth is countries like Denmark are really just laughing at them.

1) Unemployed workers get 90% of their previous salary for two years.

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salarypaid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2) Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US does.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens.2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3) Denmark is the happiest place on Earth

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4)Denmark has the shortest work week on average.

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 37 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5) Denmark pays students $900 per month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6) Denmark has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7) Denmark has one of the lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

8) Denmark is rated #1 for best country for business

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.

Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.

Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9) New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid leave. US parents don't get shit.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child. But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like. Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be, or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together and demanded it from our government?


Here are 9 reasons Denmark's socialist economy leaves the US in the dust

Denmark has a small population, and the government owns Royal Dutch Shell, one of the largest oil companies in the world to help pay for everything. They enjoy almost no illegal immigrants, and their government is one of the least corrupt on the planet.

So yes Denmark is a great place. But it is also unique.

I am going to quote you people, because 1 is the OP, 1 is another far Leftist like the OP, and most of the rest of you have a funny feeling, that something is really wrong here with the OPs thread, and YOU WOULD BE CORRECT, because all of you being on here for awhile, have you EVER KNOWN BILLY BALONEY to insure he tells you the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Of course he doesn't, or he is to dumb to find out, take your pick!

Denmark has the HIGHEST PERSONAL taxrates in the EU, but you already knew that. Billy tells you they are happy campers, because for those tax rates, they get all this supposed free stuff, and just look at them Billy will tell you, for just 52, to 55% of your income, you to can be HAPPY CAMPERS, lol.

EL WRONGO!

You see, being the gaslighting propagandist he is, Billy-E-Baloney and his Leftist friends, forgot to mention a dirty little secret, that they hope you can't figure out.

What is that DIRTY LITTLE SECRET?

Why, let me post it for you, and then you can also go to multiple sites to verify that I am correct-)

Value-Added Tax (VAT) Rates in Europe

If you don't like that one, try this one------->VAT in Denmark - Danish VAT Rates & Number Registration | VAT Global


Now then, once you take into account THE TAX I JUST POSTED, then add it to their personal tax rates, you tell Mr Baloney what the REAL tax rates are-)

And finally, lets see how they do their pricing there, shall we-) Why, we gotta know if Bill Baloney has to take 5 bucks, or 10 bucks with him when he moves there, cause we all know, he won't need much more, since everything is for free-)

Let us check it out------>Denmark vs United States: Cost of living Facts and Stats

So there you have it, Billy Baloneys utopia, and I hope Billy likes it there. Anyone want to pitch in a buck for a one way ticket for him with me!

Billy nor me, nor anyone on the left for that matter claims that tax rates aren't higher in theses countries. What we are claiming is that those high tax rates make for a society that's better. It's the same disconnect I see over and over again. If services are paid for by taxes it's bad. If those same services are paid out of pocket it's good. The fact that you have to pay more for those same services isn't important because at least it's not a tax.
Let me ask you something. If I buy a TV online for 500 dollars. And you by that same TV in the store for 1000 dollar. Who bought more sensible ?

I would burn my paper scrip notes before I would ever agree to subsidize sorry fuckwads like yourself.....

 

[Markle]

Billy nor me, nor anyone on the left for that matter claims that tax rates aren't higher in theses countries. What we are claiming is that those high tax rates make for a society that's better. It's the same disconnect I see over and over again. If services are paid for by taxes it's bad. If those same services are paid out of pocket it's good. The fact that you have to pay more for those same services isn't important because at least it's not a tax.
Let me ask you something. If I buy a TV online for 500 dollars. And you by that same TV in the store for 1000 dollar. Who bought more sensible ?

IN YOUR OPINION it is a better Society. One that will collapse, see Venezeula. Americans crave their freedom to succeed or FAIL. That is not your responsibility.

You are making a huge desperate leap claiming that Socialism costs less, in the long run, than Capitalism. You are making a feeble effort to compare apples and artichokes.

You make no sense with your TV example. What does it even mean?

 

[forkup]

Billy nor me, nor anyone on the left for that matter claims that tax rates aren't higher in theses countries. What we are claiming is that those high tax rates make for a society that's better. It's the same disconnect I see over and over again. If services are paid for by taxes it's bad. If those same services are paid out of pocket it's good. The fact that you have to pay more for those same services isn't important because at least it's not a tax.
Let me ask you something. If I buy a TV online for 500 dollars. And you by that same TV in the store for 1000 dollar. Who bought more sensible ?

IN YOUR OPINION it is a better Society. One that will collapse, see Venezeula. Americans crave their freedom to succeed or FAIL. That is not your responsibility.

You are making a huge desperate leap claiming that Socialism costs less, in the long run, than Capitalism. You are making a feeble effort to compare apples and artichokes.

You make no sense with your TV example. What does it even mean?

My TV example is a metaphor. My Healthcare system costs my society. (Belgium) 10 percent in GDP. Your Healthcare system 17 percent.
Its not a perfect metaphor tough in the sense that my Healthcare system buys me a longer life expectancy, lower child mortality and more doctors per capita.

It also begs the question as by what mechanism you think we will go bankrupt before you guys do considering we spend less on those services?

 

[forkup]

Billy nor me, nor anyone on the left for that matter claims that tax rates aren't higher in theses countries. What we are claiming is that those high tax rates make for a society that's better. It's the same disconnect I see over and over again. If services are paid for by taxes it's bad. If those same services are paid out of pocket it's good. The fact that you have to pay more for those same services isn't important because at least it's not a tax.
Let me ask you something. If I buy a TV online for 500 dollars. And you by that same TV in the store for 1000 dollar. Who bought more sensible ?

IN YOUR OPINION it is a better Society. One that will collapse, see Venezeula. Americans crave their freedom to succeed or FAIL. That is not your responsibility.

You are making a huge desperate leap claiming that Socialism costs less, in the long run, than Capitalism. You are making a feeble effort to compare apples and artichokes.

You make no sense with your TV example. What does it even mean?

My TV example is a metaphor. My Healthcare system costs my society. (Belgium) 10 percent in GDP. Your Healthcare system 17 percent.
Its not a perfect metaphor tough in the sense that my Healthcare system buys me a longer life expectancy, lower child mortality and more doctors per capita.

It also begs the question as by what mechanism you think we will go bankrupt before you guys do considering we spend less on those services?

OH and by the way. Rating something funny on this board in my experience signals someone having no real retort. So they rate something funny in a, in my view childish attempt to have the last word.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The evidence is quite compelling. Repubs like to think that both they, and the US, is superior to anyone else in the world but the truth is countries like Denmark are really just laughing at them.

1) Unemployed workers get 90% of their previous salary for two years.

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salarypaid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2) Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US does.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens.2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3) Denmark is the happiest place on Earth

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4)Denmark has the shortest work week on average.

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 37 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5) Denmark pays students $900 per month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6) Denmark has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7) Denmark has one of the lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

8) Denmark is rated #1 for best country for business

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.

Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.

Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9) New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid leave. US parents don't get shit.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child. But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like. Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be, or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together and demanded it from our government?


Here are 9 reasons Denmark's socialist economy leaves the US in the dust

Billy when is moving day?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Billy nor me, nor anyone on the left for that matter claims that tax rates aren't higher in theses countries. What we are claiming is that those high tax rates make for a society that's better. It's the same disconnect I see over and over again. If services are paid for by taxes it's bad. If those same services are paid out of pocket it's good. The fact that you have to pay more for those same services isn't important because at least it's not a tax.
Let me ask you something. If I buy a TV online for 500 dollars. And you by that same TV in the store for 1000 dollar. Who bought more sensible ?

IN YOUR OPINION it is a better Society. One that will collapse, see Venezeula. Americans crave their freedom to succeed or FAIL. That is not your responsibility.

You are making a huge desperate leap claiming that Socialism costs less, in the long run, than Capitalism. You are making a feeble effort to compare apples and artichokes.

You make no sense with your TV example. What does it even mean?

My TV example is a metaphor. My Healthcare system costs my society. (Belgium) 10 percent in GDP. Your Healthcare system 17 percent.
Its not a perfect metaphor tough in the sense that my Healthcare system buys me a longer life expectancy, lower child mortality and more doctors per capita.

It also begs the question as by what mechanism you think we will go bankrupt before you guys do considering we spend less on those services?

OH and by the way. Rating something funny on this board in my experience signals someone having no real retort. So they rate something funny in a, in my view childish attempt to have the last word.

Is health care free in Belgium to anyone, illegal immigrants included?

In the U.S. hospitals must provide emergency medical services to anyone. This includes 30 million illegals. The cost is passed on to patients who can pay, and that causes increases in overall cost.

Perhaps a better option to reduce costs is to deny services to those who cannot pay.

.

 

[Fang]

Denmark's population is around 5.8 million people. It also has a central bank and it's debt is around 36% of their GDP. and the tax rate is around 56%..........

What does population have to do with per capita income? Is their another way to look at an average that is I don't know?

Think about it......the answer will become obvious........

Exactly. I was thinking the same thing when I saw forkup's comment. Population, and more importantly, who makes up that population are crucial.

 

[forkup]

Billy nor me, nor anyone on the left for that matter claims that tax rates aren't higher in theses countries. What we are claiming is that those high tax rates make for a society that's better. It's the same disconnect I see over and over again. If services are paid for by taxes it's bad. If those same services are paid out of pocket it's good. The fact that you have to pay more for those same services isn't important because at least it's not a tax.
Let me ask you something. If I buy a TV online for 500 dollars. And you by that same TV in the store for 1000 dollar. Who bought more sensible ?

IN YOUR OPINION it is a better Society. One that will collapse, see Venezeula. Americans crave their freedom to succeed or FAIL. That is not your responsibility.

You are making a huge desperate leap claiming that Socialism costs less, in the long run, than Capitalism. You are making a feeble effort to compare apples and artichokes.

You make no sense with your TV example. What does it even mean?

My TV example is a metaphor. My Healthcare system costs my society. (Belgium) 10 percent in GDP. Your Healthcare system 17 percent.
Its not a perfect metaphor tough in the sense that my Healthcare system buys me a longer life expectancy, lower child mortality and more doctors per capita.

It also begs the question as by what mechanism you think we will go bankrupt before you guys do considering we spend less on those services?

OH and by the way. Rating something funny on this board in my experience signals someone having no real retort. So they rate something funny in a, in my view childish attempt to have the last word.

Is health care free in Belgium to anyone, illegal immigrants included?

In the U.S. hospitals must provide emergency medical services to anyone. This includes 30 million illegals. The cost is passed on to patients who can pay, and that causes increases in overall cost.

Perhaps a better option to reduce costs is to deny services to those who cannot pay.

.

Yes it is. We consider it a basic human right. It even goes beyond that and is not restricted to basic emergency care. My wife for instance, before we were married of course. Broke her ankle. She went to the ER was x rayed, operated on and was given a follow up. She was amazed that the issue of paying for it didn't even come up. I paid for it afterwards but the point stands by the way the total bill came to about 600 Euro. What would that same accident cost an uninsured person in the US?

 

[forkup]

Denmark's population is around 5.8 million people. It also has a central bank and it's debt is around 36% of their GDP. and the tax rate is around 56%..........

What does population have to do with per capita income? Is their another way to look at an average that is I don't know?

Think about it......the answer will become obvious........

Exactly. I was thinking the same thing when I saw forkup's comment. Population, and more importantly, who makes up that population are crucial.

Did you by any chance read my reply to that post?

 

[forkup]

Billy nor me, nor anyone on the left for that matter claims that tax rates aren't higher in theses countries. What we are claiming is that those high tax rates make for a society that's better. It's the same disconnect I see over and over again. If services are paid for by taxes it's bad. If those same services are paid out of pocket it's good. The fact that you have to pay more for those same services isn't important because at least it's not a tax.
Let me ask you something. If I buy a TV online for 500 dollars. And you by that same TV in the store for 1000 dollar. Who bought more sensible ?

IN YOUR OPINION it is a better Society. One that will collapse, see Venezeula. Americans crave their freedom to succeed or FAIL. That is not your responsibility.

You are making a huge desperate leap claiming that Socialism costs less, in the long run, than Capitalism. You are making a feeble effort to compare apples and artichokes.

You make no sense with your TV example. What does it even mean?

My TV example is a metaphor. My Healthcare system costs my society. (Belgium) 10 percent in GDP. Your Healthcare system 17 percent.
Its not a perfect metaphor tough in the sense that my Healthcare system buys me a longer life expectancy, lower child mortality and more doctors per capita.

It also begs the question as by what mechanism you think we will go bankrupt before you guys do considering we spend less on those services?

OH and by the way. Rating something funny on this board in my experience signals someone having no real retort. So they rate something funny in a, in my view childish attempt to have the last word.

Is health care free in Belgium to anyone, illegal immigrants included?

In the U.S. hospitals must provide emergency medical services to anyone. This includes 30 million illegals. The cost is passed on to patients who can pay, and that causes increases in overall cost.

Perhaps a better option to reduce costs is to deny services to those who cannot pay.

.

You think 7 percent of your GDP, that's about twice your entire defense budget BTW is caused by having to pay for emergency healthcare for poor people?

 

[Fang]

Denmark's population is around 5.8 million people. It also has a central bank and it's debt is around 36% of their GDP. and the tax rate is around 56%..........

What does population have to do with per capita income? Is their another way to look at an average that is I don't know?

Think about it......the answer will become obvious........

Exactly. I was thinking the same thing when I saw forkup's comment. Population, and more importantly, who makes up that population are crucial.

Did you by any chance read my reply to that post?

I did. But I think you're still comparing apple to oranges. The US is in a much different situation than Denmark.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The evidence is quite compelling. Repubs like to think that both they, and the US, is superior to anyone else in the world but the truth is countries like Denmark are really just laughing at them.

1) Unemployed workers get 90% of their previous salary for two years.

Denmark has a tremendous social safety net for unemployed workers — any worker who worked at least 52 weeks over a three-year period can qualify to have 90 percent of their original salarypaid for, for up to two years. The Danish government also has plentiful training programs for out-of-work Danes. As a result, 73 percent of Danes between 15 and 64 have a paying job, compared to 67 percent of Americans.

2) Denmark spends far less on healthcare than the US does.

According to the Organisation for Economic Co-Operation and Development (OECD), the US spends twice as much per capita on healthcare than in Denmark, where taxpayer-funded universal healthcare is available for all citizens.2009 OECD data shows that the U.S. spent an average of $7,290 per person on healthcare. Denmark spent just $3,512. World Bank data, as seen in the chart above, shows Danish healthcare costs are about $3,000 less per capita than in the US.

3) Denmark is the happiest place on Earth

The World Happiness Report, which determines which nation’s population is the “happiest” using criteria like life expectancy, GDP, social safety nets, as well as factors like “perception of corruption” and “freedom to make life choices,” found that Denmark was the happiest country. The US, in the meantime, ranked #17 on the same list.

4)Denmark has the shortest work week on average.

Denmark leads every other OECD nation in work-life balance. Danes work an average of 37 hours a week, earn an average of $46,000 USD annually, and have the right to 5 weeks of paid vacation per year. Here in the US, the average worker puts in an average of 47 hours a week, and only takes 16 days of vacation a year. This is largely due to a more stressful work climate, in which wages are stagnating while costs are rising. Combine that with a highly-competitive job market, and that means more Americans are willing to chain themselves to their desk then to risk taking vacation days and coming back to find someone else took their job.

5) Denmark pays students $900 per month to attend college.

Here in the US, the cost of going to college has soared by over 500 percent in the last 30 years. But in Denmark, not only is college free, but students are actually paid $900 USD per month to go to school, provided they live on their own. And this funding lasts up to six years. By contrast, the average US student pays over $31,000 a year in tuition to attend a private university, out-of-state residents at public universities pay $22,000 a year in tuition, and tuition costs for in-state residents at those same universities is still over $9,000.

6) Denmark has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world.

In Denmark, despite a short work week and a generous social safety net, workers make more than enough to meet basic needs. According to per capita income data from the World Bank, Denmark’s per capita income is roughly $5,000 higher than in the US.

7) Denmark has one of the lowest poverty rates. The US has one of the highest.

The benefits of living in Denmark are far-reaching — out of all OECD countries, Denmark has the second-lowest poverty rate at 0.6 percent. To compare, the OECD average of 11.3 percent is still lower than the 14.5 percent poverty rate in the US.

8) Denmark is rated #1 for best country for business

In 2014, Forbes ranked Denmark as the #1 best country for business.

Forbes used 11 different criteria to rank countries — innovation, property rights, red tape, taxes, investor protection, stock market performance, technology, corruption, personal freedom, freedom of trade, and monetary freedom.

Under the same criteria, the US ranked #18.

9) New parents in Denmark get 52 weeks of paid leave. US parents don't get shit.

The Danish government gives new parents an average of 52 weeks — a full year — of paid time off after having a child. Those 52 weeks can be allocated however the parents wish. In addition to the 52 weeks, new moms get 4 weeks of maternity leave before giving birth and 14 weeks after. Even new fathers get 2 additional weeks after the birth of their child. But here in the US, 1 in 4 new mothers go back to work within two weeks of having a child.

This is what Democratic Socialism really looks like. Is this the dystopian nightmare that Republicans are making it out to be, or an ideal vision of what Americans could have if we came together and demanded it from our government?


Here are 9 reasons Denmark's socialist economy leaves the US in the dust

/---/ When are you moving to Denmark, or are their immigration laws too strict?