9/11 Firefighters Trash Official 9/11 Story, Say Obvious Demolition, Documentary "Calling Out Bravo 7"

Sad to see this insulting conspiracy lasting so long. If there is any criticism it should be directed at the Clinton negligence and subsequent coverup. We all saw the planes hit the Towers.
The problem with questioning the narrative is that if you wonder how those bit players could have pulled this off you are knee jerk responded to by someone like you saying that deniers say nothing happened. Certainly something happened, but how it happened according to the official story has a lot of holes in it that need to be filled.
 
What country would love to recruit the U.S. military in a war against Islam (which is what resulted from 9/11) ? Oh, yeah.....ISRAEL.
Osama bin Laden hated the Saudis because they revoked his citizenship in 1994. He wanted the US to declare war on Saudi Arabia.
 
Osama bin Laden hated the Saudis because they revoked his citizenship in 1994. He wanted the US to declare war on Saudi Arabia.

Bin Laden denied involvement in 9/11 many times.

"I have already said that I am not involved in the September 11 attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle. "

"Then there are intelligence agencies in the U.S., which require billions of dollars worth of funds from the Congress and the government every year. This [funding issue] was not a big problem till the existence of the former Soviet Union but after that the budget of these agencies has been in danger. They needed an enemy. "


 
Osama bin Laden hated the Saudis because they revoked his citizenship in 1994. He wanted the US to declare war on Saudi Arabia.

Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein also hated each other. Saddam was a secular ruler who saw bin Laden as a threat.
 
I've used fire to soften steel and cause it to collapse.

Thus, I know the real world contradicts your conspiracy theory.

This is something you see with most conspiracy theorists, an ignorance of how physics works in the real world.
And how did you get a fire to burn at 2300 degrees F? That is the forging temperature for steel, when it becomes malleable.

It was not softening of the steel that caused the collapse. It was thermal expansion that moved the beams off the supporting columns...
 
And how did you get a fire to burn at 2300 degrees F?
It wasn't intentional. I stacked a large amount of wood on a metal frame, set it alight, and then a steady 20 mph started blowing through it. It's was like a blacksmith's forge with a bellows blowing air through it. I couldn't say what temperature it hit.

You are right about the collapse cause.
 
It wasn't intentional. I stacked a large amount of wood on a metal frame, set it alight, and then a steady 20 mph started blowing through it. It's was like a blacksmith's forge with a bellows blowing air through it. I couldn't say what temperature it hit.

You are right about the collapse cause.
There is a reason they use coal or gas in forges, and not wood. The most you can get from wood is about 2000 F, and that is under very specific conditions- not something you would likely get by accident. An open flame like you describe would max out at about 1300 F, maybe a little higher if you were burning something like oak or beech.

Wood just doesn't burn hot enough to make steel malleable. Metals have plasticity, and you can deform them by heating and cooling cycles when the movement is restricted, but that is not softening the metal- it's just deforming it. Think of the steel plate used on woodstoves- after a time it can become warped from the heating and cooling cycles, but it was never softened by the heat- it is the thermal expansion that causes the stress.

More likely the weight is what caused your frame to collapse, the wood shifted and point-loaded the weak frame at some spot...
 
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There is a reason they use coal or gas in forges, and not wood. The most you can get from wood is about 2000 F
I softened the steel with a really hot wood fire. Why is that so hard to believe?

Wood just doesn't burn hot enough to make steel malleable.
Malleable is not the same as softened. Steel will be a lot softer at 1000F, easily obtainable with a wood fire.

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The temperature that you need to heat the steel will depend on the type of steel that you are using. It will need to be at least 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit (540 degrees Celsius) for carbon steel,
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I softened the steel with a really hot wood fire. Why is that so hard to believe?
Because I know steel. 40+ years machining and heat treating.
Malleable is not the same as softened. Steel will be a lot softer at 1000F, easily obtainable with a wood fire.
From your own link: "If you are using the hot forming method, you will need to heat the steel until it is malleable. This can be done with a furnace or a torch."

Softening does not mean malleable. You can soften alloy steels at much lower temperatures, that is part of the tempering process.

Not all steels will react to that- they have to be hardenable to begin with. (Plain carbon steel is not hardenable)

Hardness is not the same as ductility.
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The temperature that you need to heat the steel will depend on the type of steel that you are using. It will need to be at least 1,000 degrees Fahrenheit (540 degrees Celsius) for carbon steel,
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Bending pipe can be done cold. "1000 degrees F" might make it slightly easier if it is thin wall, but your torch is much hotter than that. Acetylene and propane torches burn at about 3000 degrees C.

No one, and I mean no one with any knowledge would try to hot-bend steel when it is that cold. That's not even red-hot yet. It will certainly not bend under it's own weight.

You are telling me your open fire made the steel even red-hot? In a 20 mph wind when the embers are being blown away as fast as they form?

Watch that TV show on knifemaking- I forget the name. They heat their blades to white-hot (about 2300 degrees F), and whale on them with sledgehammers and still barely get it to move.
 
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