74 school shootings in 77 weeks...Worth it's own thread.

[JoeB131]

Again, I'm not sure why you guys live in terror that we might become "Europe".

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Your posts scare the fuck out of us. When people are that stupid the bureaucrats tend to take advantage.

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This coming from a guy who thinks David Koresh was a hero....

 

[skookerasbil]

Again, I'm not sure why you guys live in terror that we might become "Europe".

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Your posts scare the fuck out of us. When people are that stupid the bureaucrats tend to take advantage.

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This coming from a guy who thinks David Koresh was a hero....

s0n.....what the fuck happened to you that makes you so visibly miserable? You exist in a perpetual state of misery!! Its fascinating!!
And on this whole gun issue, you're whistling past the graveyard my friend. For you, its this emotional knee-jerk thing.....but for a huge majority of Americans, it is very, very clear that they hardly agree with our emotionally charged sentiments >>>

Gallup Poll: Support for gun control is waning, opposition to handgun ban at all-time high


Shit s0n.....you're not even near being in the ballpark!!


Spambot.......delivering the sobering facts........as usual.

 

[JoeB131]

Spam bot wants someone to pay attention to it.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

74 school shootings in the past 77 weeks.

Not 74 chemical bombings, not 74 stabbings, not 74 bows and arrows, not 74 hatchet attacks. The common denominator (do I need to define that term for you?) is guns.

If you Ammo-sexuals want to keep, sleep with and insert your guns into your privates because I really think it's that sick, then figure out a way to stop this epidemic.

This data tells me that the parents of these kids are pretty much out of touch with their kids, so start with them.

Do something besides shoving the 2nd Amendment in my face and whining about your fucking rights. Your rights end when innocent people who cannot protect themselves die.

School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook | Everytown for Gun Safety - School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook

#
Date
City
State
School Name
School Type
1. 1/08/2013 Fort Myers FL Apostolic Revival Center Christian School K-12
2. 1/10/2013 Taft CA Taft Union High School K-12
3. 1/15/2013 St. Louis MO Stevens Institute of Business & Arts College/University
4. 1/15/2013 Hazard KY Hazard Community and Technical College College/University
5. 1/16/2013 Chicago IL Chicago State University College/University
6. 1/22/2013
Houston TX Lone Star College North Harris Campus College/University
7. 1/31/2013 Atlanta GA Price Middle School K-12
8. 2/1/2013 Atlanta GA Morehouse College College/University
9. 2/7/2013 Fort Pierce FL Indian River St. College College/University
10. 2/13/2013 San Leandro CA Hillside Elementary School K-12
11. 2/27/2013 Atlanta GA Henry W. Grady HS K-12
12. 3/18/2013 Orlando FL University of Central Florida College/University
13. 3/21/2013 Southgate MI Davidson Middle School K-12
14. 4/12/2013 Christianburg VA New River Community College College/University
15. 4/13/2013 Elizabeth City NC Elizabeth City State University College/University
16. 4/15/2013 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
17. 4/16/2013 Tuscaloosa AL Stillman College College/University
18. 4/29/2013 Cincinnati OH La Salle High School K-12
19. 6/7/2013 Santa Monica CA Santa Monica College College/University
20. 6/19/2013 W. Palm Beach FL Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts K-12
21. 8/15/2013 Clarksville TN Northwest High School K-12
22. 8/20/2013 Decatur GA Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy K-12
23. 8/22/2013 Memphis TN Westside Elementary School K-12
24. 8/23/2013 Sardis MS North Panola High School K-12
25. 8/30/2013 Winston-Salem NC Carver High School K-12
26. 9/21/2013 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
27. 9/28/2013 Gray ME New Gloucester High School K-12
28. 10/4/2013 Pine Hills FL Agape Christian Academy K-12
29. 10/15/2013 Austin TX Lanier High School K-12
30. 10/21/2013 Sparks NV Sparks Middle School K-12
31. 11/1/2013 Algona IA Algona High/Middle School K-12
32. 11/2/2013 Greensboro NC North Carolina A&T State University College/University
33. 11/3/2013 Stone Mountain GA Stephenson High School K-12
34. 11/21/2013 Rapid City SD South Dakota School of Mines & Technology College/University
35. 12/4/2013 Winter Garden FL West Orange High School K-12
36. 12/13/2013 Arapahoe County CO Arapahoe High School K-12
37. 12/19/2013 Fresno CA Edison High School K-12
38. 1/9/2014 Jackson TN Liberty Technology Magnet HS K-12
39. 1/14/2014 Roswell NM Berrendo Middle School K-12
40. 1/15/2014 Lancaster PA Martin Luther King Jr. ES K-12
41. 1/17/2014 Philadelphia PA Delaware Valley Charter HS K-12
42. 1/20/2014 Chester PA Widener University College/University
43. 1/21/2014 West Lafayette IN Purdue University College/University
44. 1/24/2014 Orangeburg SC South Carolina State University College/University
45. 1/28/2014 Nashville TN Tennessee State University College/University
46. 1/28/2014 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
47. 1/30/2014 Palm Bay FL Eastern Florida State College College/University
48. 1/31/2014 Phoenix AZ Cesar Chavez High School K-12
49. 1/31/2014 Des Moines IA North High School K-12
50. 2/7/2014 Bend OR Bend High School K-12
51. 2/10/2014 Salisbury NC Salisbury High School K-12
52. 2/11/2014 Lyndhurst OH Brush High School K-12
53. 2/12/2014 Jackson TN Union University College/University
54. 2/20/2014 Raytown MO Raytown Success Academy K-12
55. 3/2/2014 Westminster MD McDaniel College College/University
56. 3/7/2014 Tallulah LA Madison High School K-12
57. 3/8/2014 Oshkosh WI University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh College/University
58. 3/21/2014 Newark DE University of Delaware College/University
59. 3/30/2014 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
60. 4/3/2014 Kent OH Kent State University College/University
61. 4/7/2014 Roswell NM Eastern New Mexico University-Roswell College/University
62. 4/11/2014 Detroit MI East English Village Preparatory Academy K-12
63. 4/21/2014 Griffith IN St. Mary Catholic School K-12
64. 4/21/2014 Provo UT Provo High School K-12
65. 4/26/2014 Council Bluffs IA Iowa Western Community College College/University
66. 5/2/2014 Milwaukee WI Marquette University College/University
67. 5/3/2014 Everett WA Horizon Elementary School K-12
68. 5/4/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
69. 5/5/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
70. 5/8/2014 Georgetown KY Georgetown College College/University
71. 5/8/2014 Lawrenceville GA Georgia Gwinnett College College/University
72. 5/21/2014 Milwaukee WI Clark Street School K-12
73. 6/5/2014 Seattle WA Seattle Pacific University College/University
74. 6/10/2014 Troutdale OR Reynolds High School K-12

Been school shootings since before the country was a country.
The History of Nearly 250 Years of School Shootings in America

While they seem to be on the increase, it's not a new phenomenae. And I can't help but wonder how much media coverage of them plays a part. If we didn't sensationalize and make famous the shooters (name a victim of Columbine...Hard isn't it. Now name one of the two shooters. Easy.) I wonder if they'd be so common. It's like the coverage now is putting the option into disgruntled people's heads. "I'm mad as hell and not gonna take it any more! Hmm, could always bring my Dad's gun to school..." I was bullied throughout junior high but it never once occured to me to get a gun. I think then our gun-filled culture also shoulders some of the blame. And it's time we finally face facts and look at entertainment, in particular, movies and video games. We're not talking Street Fighter and Galaga any more. Videogames today, especially on home consoles, are defacto combat simulators. And when we call entertainment the gunplay and violent acting out amongst society, you have to wonder if for the marginally sane it's giving ideas they don't need.

Most of us grew up with violent movies, and arguably, thinking of the 80s gore-flicks, much more violent ones than today. But the ones now are very gun-centric. Even the heroes are using guns. Isn't mythological badguys any more but rank and file people armed to the teeth and Ramboing up. If we're serious about doing something about school shootings and gun violence in general we need to be willing to do the hard things. Some of these include:

- forbidding through legislation graphic violence in media like movies and tv shows (the tv ratings system is a total failure since now they can show anything they like and simply slap a tv-ma rating onto it, whereas previously certain content like grotesque violence was completely banned regardless. We should go back to that standard.) Censorship may be an ugly word especially to me as a liberal, but come on, where's the artistic merit of showing the human body being shot full of holes?

- ban the sales of violent or criminal-themed videogames. It's outrageous we're making popular game franchises where the "hero" is an assassin or street criminal (this means you "Assassin's Creed" and "Grand Theft Auto.") And impose felony charges on anyone selling such material (otherwise, banned materials just wind up being obtained via black market sources and most would roll their eyes about the obtaining of "just a videogame.")

- add mandatory classes to k-12 schools of some sort of interpersonal relationships featuring topics like conflict resolution, no-bullying, team building, and similar subject matter.

- forbid news media from graphicly showing a school shooting story. Can mention it happened, but no video of the fleeing students or responding law enforcement (both I'm sure are a thrill for future shooters to see) and no mention of the shooter(s.) If you can become famous for it, it'll happen more, deny them what they seek.

- teach actual sexual education. This is critical. Teens wanna have sex, deal with it. Instead of teaching abstinance, or sex is only for adults, teach masturbation, how to have sex without risking pregnancy, how to use birth control, and generally encourage sexual behaviour instead of denying at-risk-for-violence people like puberty-stricken teens from enjoying what their bodies are screaming for. If you can't have sexual relationships out in the open and have it a good and positive thing it has to be secret. And secrecy breeds stress and too much stress results in negative acting out. Rather than basically driving kids insane by repressing their sexuality, encourage them to express it safely and positively.


More gun laws isn't the answer. It's a knee-jerk feel-good response that doesn't do anything. Shooters just use whatever isn't banned. Instead we need to recondition society towards resolving problems more constructively and not via violence.

 

[freedombecki]

So let me get this straight, because Wingnut logic is kind of hard to follow.

The VA is overwealmed, and maybe 47 vets die* because they couldn't get in to see a doctor. OH MY GOD THIS IS THE WORST CRISIS EVER!!!!!

32,000 Americans die EVERY YEAR because someone sold a gun to someone who had no business having one. *. Ah, this isn't a problem at all.

While I think the person who wants to shoot a bad guy is a little sily, the Wingnut who wants guns because they lost an election is even sillier.

The government is not an amorphous mob of zombies. The government is a cop who stopped by for a slice of pizza and leaves behind six kids when the crazy person shoots him.

Funny, you never hear Left Wingers talking about needing guns when Bush STEALS an election, gets us into a war based on lies, tortures prisoners, and spies on Americans without a warrant. Nope. They actually talk about how to fix that at the next election and using the process.

But wingnuts. You all lose an election, and you start waving your guns around** talking smack about tyranny.

Okay, memo. IF the government ever got "so bad", the problem is, they have tanks, they have bombers. they have drones.

You've got your squirrel gun.**

The Founding Slave Rapists*** didn't think a mob was going to overthrow the government. They called for MILITIAS that would act under the color of law.

* Latest estimates are that over a thousand vets (and counting) died due to VA mismanagement.
** I reiterate that I don't own a gun.
*** DNA tests proved negative on Founders who allegedly had affairs with their slaves. DNA was run and proved the calumny a lie.
*According to the CDC, 11,078 deaths were related to firearms. Link

Wow, trying to argue numbers when you can't argue the point, eh.

1) Actually, case reviews don't even support the 47 died due to lack of care. It should also be pointed out that 96,000 patients die every year due to medical error in private hosptials.

Report tied previous VA cancer deaths to delayed care

Of course, what happened was still horrible. BUt it's hilarious to watch the same Repbulican pukes in Congress who voted to slash the VA budget during a war complain now that vets aren't getting proper care.

2) Doesn't matter if you personally own a gun. You go around talking smack about Sharia Law and the government trying to impose it.

3) In 2012, there were 19,766 gun suicides, 11,101 gun homicides and 851 gun accidents. Which is just fine with you clowns, apparently. Because we need our guns in case the gummit comes along and imposes Socialist Sharia law on us... or something.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/united-states



4) DNA tests proved that Thomas Jefferson raped the shit out of Sally Hemmings.

Even the Monticello Museum admits as much.

Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings: A Brief Account « Thomas Jefferson?s Monticello

Based on documentary, scientific, statistical, and oral history evidence, the Thomas Jefferson Foundation (TJF) Research Committee Report on Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemings (January 2000) remains the most comprehensive analysis of this historical topic. Ten years later, TJF and most historians believe that, years after his wife’s death, Thomas Jefferson was the father of the six children of Sally Hemings mentioned in Jefferson's records, including Beverly, Harriet, Madison, and Eston Hemings.

"Even the Moticello Museum admits as much."

I read your article. What was it you do not understand about their claim that Thomas Jefferson denied having any kind of an affair with anyone in one of his letters?

The DNA I referred to was CONCLUSIVELY PROVEN NOT THOMAS JEFFERSON'S DNA relatives. The mitochondrial dioxyribonucleic acid never lies.

I have a hunch you wouldn't know the difference...

 

[JoeB131]

Let's blame everything but the guns.

Hey you know what, the Japanese have the same videogames and movies we have. And they don't have school shootings. Because people can't walk in and buy guns.

Also, in the 1990's, they tried the whole "Let's not put the school shooting on the first page.

It didn't work.

 

[JoeB131]

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I read your article. What was it you do not understand about their claim that Thomas Jefferson denied having any kind of an affair with anyone in one of his letters?

The DNA I referred to was CONCLUSIVELY PROVEN NOT THOMAS JEFFERSON'S DNA relatives. The mitochondrial dioxyribonucleic acid never lies.

I have a hunch you wouldn't know the difference...

Actually, DNA testing only proves that a male in the Jefferson family fathered her kids.

What makes it conclusive is that it was a open secret at the time, and Sally had the bad fortune of looking like Jefferson's dead wife. (She was in fact, her half sister because Jefferson's father in law liked him some slave, too.)

This country was founded by slave-raping assholes who had the hypocrisy to talk about Freedom from a country that was in the process of outlawing slavery.

 

[Spoonman]

Let's blame everything but the guns.

Hey you know what, the Japanese have the same videogames and movies we have. And they don't have school shootings. Because people can't walk in and buy guns.

Also, in the 1990's, they tried the whole "Let's not put the school shooting on the first page.

It didn't work.

they didn't have the school shootings before they banned guns either. It ain't the gun

 

[hunarcy]

Let's blame everything but the guns.

Hey you know what, the Japanese have the same videogames and movies we have. And they don't have school shootings. Because people can't walk in and buy guns.

Also, in the 1990's, they tried the whole "Let's not put the school shooting on the first page.

It didn't work.

they didn't have the school shootings before they banned guns either. It ain't the gun

So, JoeTroll found a solution to a problem that didn't exist? How cool!

 

[JoeB131]

Let's blame everything but the guns.

Hey you know what, the Japanese have the same videogames and movies we have. And they don't have school shootings. Because people can't walk in and buy guns.

Also, in the 1990's, they tried the whole "Let's not put the school shooting on the first page.

It didn't work.

they didn't have the school shootings before they banned guns either. It ain't the gun

So, JoeTroll found a solution to a problem that didn't exist? How cool!

The Japanese never had the guns to start with.

No, it's really the guns. Take away the guns, no school shootings.

This is really basic stuff, guys.

 

[koshergrl]

Joe is eternally pro-death.

 

[Misty]

This story is false. It was investigated and the number was closer to 15 or less.

Did you get this from Bloomberg or mother jones? It fit your agenda so you ran with it but it is not even remotely true.

74 school shootings in the past 77 weeks.

Not 74 chemical bombings, not 74 stabbings, not 74 bows and arrows, not 74 hatchet attacks. The common denominator (do I need to define that term for you?) is guns.

If you Ammo-sexuals want to keep, sleep with and insert your guns into your privates because I really think it's that sick, then figure out a way to stop this epidemic.

This data tells me that the parents of these kids are pretty much out of touch with their kids, so start with them.

Do something besides shoving the 2nd Amendment in my face and whining about your fucking rights. Your rights end when innocent people who cannot protect themselves die.

School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook | Everytown for Gun Safety - School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook

#
Date
City
State
School Name
School Type
1. 1/08/2013 Fort Myers FL Apostolic Revival Center Christian School K-12
2. 1/10/2013 Taft CA Taft Union High School K-12
3. 1/15/2013 St. Louis MO Stevens Institute of Business & Arts College/University
4. 1/15/2013 Hazard KY Hazard Community and Technical College College/University
5. 1/16/2013 Chicago IL Chicago State University College/University
6. 1/22/2013
Houston TX Lone Star College North Harris Campus College/University
7. 1/31/2013 Atlanta GA Price Middle School K-12
8. 2/1/2013 Atlanta GA Morehouse College College/University
9. 2/7/2013 Fort Pierce FL Indian River St. College College/University
10. 2/13/2013 San Leandro CA Hillside Elementary School K-12
11. 2/27/2013 Atlanta GA Henry W. Grady HS K-12
12. 3/18/2013 Orlando FL University of Central Florida College/University
13. 3/21/2013 Southgate MI Davidson Middle School K-12
14. 4/12/2013 Christianburg VA New River Community College College/University
15. 4/13/2013 Elizabeth City NC Elizabeth City State University College/University
16. 4/15/2013 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
17. 4/16/2013 Tuscaloosa AL Stillman College College/University
18. 4/29/2013 Cincinnati OH La Salle High School K-12
19. 6/7/2013 Santa Monica CA Santa Monica College College/University
20. 6/19/2013 W. Palm Beach FL Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts K-12
21. 8/15/2013 Clarksville TN Northwest High School K-12
22. 8/20/2013 Decatur GA Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy K-12
23. 8/22/2013 Memphis TN Westside Elementary School K-12
24. 8/23/2013 Sardis MS North Panola High School K-12
25. 8/30/2013 Winston-Salem NC Carver High School K-12
26. 9/21/2013 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
27. 9/28/2013 Gray ME New Gloucester High School K-12
28. 10/4/2013 Pine Hills FL Agape Christian Academy K-12
29. 10/15/2013 Austin TX Lanier High School K-12
30. 10/21/2013 Sparks NV Sparks Middle School K-12
31. 11/1/2013 Algona IA Algona High/Middle School K-12
32. 11/2/2013 Greensboro NC North Carolina A&T State University College/University
33. 11/3/2013 Stone Mountain GA Stephenson High School K-12
34. 11/21/2013 Rapid City SD South Dakota School of Mines & Technology College/University
35. 12/4/2013 Winter Garden FL West Orange High School K-12
36. 12/13/2013 Arapahoe County CO Arapahoe High School K-12
37. 12/19/2013 Fresno CA Edison High School K-12
38. 1/9/2014 Jackson TN Liberty Technology Magnet HS K-12
39. 1/14/2014 Roswell NM Berrendo Middle School K-12
40. 1/15/2014 Lancaster PA Martin Luther King Jr. ES K-12
41. 1/17/2014 Philadelphia PA Delaware Valley Charter HS K-12
42. 1/20/2014 Chester PA Widener University College/University
43. 1/21/2014 West Lafayette IN Purdue University College/University
44. 1/24/2014 Orangeburg SC South Carolina State University College/University
45. 1/28/2014 Nashville TN Tennessee State University College/University
46. 1/28/2014 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
47. 1/30/2014 Palm Bay FL Eastern Florida State College College/University
48. 1/31/2014 Phoenix AZ Cesar Chavez High School K-12
49. 1/31/2014 Des Moines IA North High School K-12
50. 2/7/2014 Bend OR Bend High School K-12
51. 2/10/2014 Salisbury NC Salisbury High School K-12
52. 2/11/2014 Lyndhurst OH Brush High School K-12
53. 2/12/2014 Jackson TN Union University College/University
54. 2/20/2014 Raytown MO Raytown Success Academy K-12
55. 3/2/2014 Westminster MD McDaniel College College/University
56. 3/7/2014 Tallulah LA Madison High School K-12
57. 3/8/2014 Oshkosh WI University of Wisconsin – Oshkosh College/University
58. 3/21/2014 Newark DE University of Delaware College/University
59. 3/30/2014 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
60. 4/3/2014 Kent OH Kent State University College/University
61. 4/7/2014 Roswell NM Eastern New Mexico University-Roswell College/University
62. 4/11/2014 Detroit MI East English Village Preparatory Academy K-12
63. 4/21/2014 Griffith IN St. Mary Catholic School K-12
64. 4/21/2014 Provo UT Provo High School K-12
65. 4/26/2014 Council Bluffs IA Iowa Western Community College College/University
66. 5/2/2014 Milwaukee WI Marquette University College/University
67. 5/3/2014 Everett WA Horizon Elementary School K-12
68. 5/4/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
69. 5/5/2014 Augusta GA Paine College College/University
70. 5/8/2014 Georgetown KY Georgetown College College/University
71. 5/8/2014 Lawrenceville GA Georgia Gwinnett College College/University
72. 5/21/2014 Milwaukee WI Clark Street School K-12
73. 6/5/2014 Seattle WA Seattle Pacific University College/University
74. 6/10/2014 Troutdale OR Reynolds High School K-12

 

[skookerasbil]

Joe is eternally pro-death.

And big on theory = ghey. All his shit is conjecture.

And then I post up this paper from Harvard University ( April 2013)......the findings of the study DEFINITIVE!!!! He flees the forum!!

more guns = less crime


A summary of what they found >>>

Many people believe that owning guns only increases the amount of crime. However, a recent study published in the Harvard Journal of Law and Public Policy concluded that there is a negative correlation between gun ownership and violent crime in countries internationally. In other words, the more guns the less crime. The study showed that nations with strict gun control laws have substantially higher murder rates than those who do not. In fact, the 9 European nations with the lowest gun ownership rate have a combined murder rate that is three times that of the nine European nations with the highest gun ownership rate.





The entire paper >>> http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf



Now who looks like a ???????

 

[freedombecki]

Let's blame everything but the guns.

Hey you know what, the Japanese have the same videogames and movies we have. And they don't have school shootings. Because people can't walk in and buy guns.

Also, in the 1990's, they tried the whole "Let's not put the school shooting on the first page.

It didn't work.

Blaming an inanimate object for crime is just plain silly, JoeB. Think about it sometime.

 

[hunarcy]

Let's blame everything but the guns.

Hey you know what, the Japanese have the same videogames and movies we have. And they don't have school shootings. Because people can't walk in and buy guns.

Also, in the 1990's, they tried the whole "Let's not put the school shooting on the first page.

It didn't work.

Blaming an inanimate object for crime is just plain silly, JoeB. Think about it sometime.

Awesome post...I'll rep it when I'm next allowed!

 

[JoeB131]

Let's blame everything but the guns.

Hey you know what, the Japanese have the same videogames and movies we have. And they don't have school shootings. Because people can't walk in and buy guns.

Also, in the 1990's, they tried the whole "Let's not put the school shooting on the first page.

It didn't work.

Blaming an inanimate object for crime is just plain silly, JoeB. Think about it sometime.

I have.

Criminals who don't have easy access to guns can't commit crimes as easily.

It's really pretty fucking simple.

But I'm not even talking about the criminals. Yes, we have too many of those. We lock up millions of people and still have crime

I'm talking about the suicides and the accidents and the guy who shoots his wife during an argument over who drank the last can of Milwaukee's Best. All those tragedies that could be avoided if we didn't let every asshole who wants a gun have one.

 

[DiamondDave]

Because there was no crime or anything before guns, Joe

It is not the tool that is the problem.. it is the people who wish to use the tool against someone else that is the problem.. it is the willingness to do wrong that is the problem

 

[Wildman]

74 school shootings in the past 77 weeks.

Not 74 chemical bombings, not 74 stabbings, not 74 bows and arrows, not 74 hatchet attacks. The common denominator (do I need to define that term for you?) is guns.

If you Ammo-sexuals want to keep, sleep with and insert your guns into your privates because I really think it's that sick, then figure out a way to stop this epidemic.

This data tells me that the parents of these kids are pretty much out of touch with their kids, so start with them.

Do something besides shoving the 2nd Amendment in my face and whining about your fucking rights. Your rights end when innocent people who cannot protect themselves die.

School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook | Everytown for Gun Safety - School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook

#
Date
City
State
School Name
School Type
1. 1/08/2013 Fort Myers FL Apostolic Revival Center Christian School K-12
2. 1/10/2013 Taft CA Taft Union High School K-12
3. 1/15/2013 St. Louis MO Stevens Institute of Business & Arts College/University
4. 1/15/2013 Hazard KY Hazard Community and Technical College College/University
5. 1/16/2013 Chicago IL Chicago State University College/University
6. 1/22/2013
Houston TX Lone Star College North Harris Campus College/University
7. 1/31/2013 Atlanta GA Price Middle School K-12
8. 2/1/2013 Atlanta GA Morehouse College College/University
9. 2/7/2013 Fort Pierce FL Indian River St. College College/University
10. 2/13/2013 San Leandro CA Hillside Elementary School K-12
11. 2/27/2013 Atlanta GA Henry W. Grady HS K-12
12. 3/18/2013 Orlando FL University of Central Florida College/University
13. 3/21/2013 Southgate MI Davidson Middle School K-12
14. 4/12/2013 Christianburg VA New River Community College College/University
15. 4/13/2013 Elizabeth City NC Elizabeth City State University College/University
16. 4/15/2013 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
17. 4/16/2013 Tuscaloosa AL Stillman College College/University
18. 4/29/2013 Cincinnati OH La Salle High School K-12
19. 6/7/2013 Santa Monica CA Santa Monica College College/University
20. 6/19/2013 W. Palm Beach FL Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts K-12
21. 8/15/2013 Clarksville TN Northwest High School K-12
22. 8/20/2013 Decatur GA Ronald E. McNair Discovery Learning Academy K-12
23. 8/22/2013 Memphis TN Westside Elementary School K-12
24. 8/23/2013 Sardis MS North Panola High School K-12
25. 8/30/2013 Winston-Salem NC Carver High School K-12
26. 9/21/2013 Savannah GA Savannah State University College/University
27. 9/28/2013 Gray ME New Gloucester High School K-12
28. 10/4/2013 Pine Hills FL Agape Christian Academy K-12
29. 10/15/2013 Austin TX Lanier High School K-12
30. 10/21/2013 Sparks NV Sparks Middle School K-12
31. 11/1/2013 Algona IA Algona High/Middle School K-12
32. 11/2/2013 Greensboro NC North Carolina A&T State University College/University
33. 11/3/2013 Stone Mountain GA Stephenson High School K-12
34. 11/21/2013 Rapid City SD South Dakota School of Mines & Technology College/University
35. 12/4/2013 Winter Garden FL West Orange High School K-12
36. 12/13/2013 Arapahoe County CO Arapahoe High School K-12
37. 12/19/2013 Fresno CA Edison High School K-12
38. 1/9/2014 Jackson TN Liberty Technology Magnet HS K-12
39. 1/14/2014 Roswell NM Berrendo Middle School K-12
40. 1/15/2014 Lancaster PA Martin Luther King Jr. ES K-12
41. 1/17/2014 Philadelphia PA Delaware Valley Charter HS K-12
42. 1/20/2014 Chester PA Widener University College/University
43. 1/21/2014 West Lafayette IN Purdue University College/University
44. 1/24/2014 Orangeburg SC South Carolina State University College/University
45. 1/28/2014 Nashville TN Tennessee State University College/University
46. 1/28/2014 Grambling LA Grambling State University College/University
47. 1/30/2014 Palm Bay FL Eastern Florida State College College/University
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Been school shootings since before the country was a country.
The History of Nearly 250 Years of School Shootings in America

While they seem to be on the increase, it's not a new phenomenae. And I can't help but wonder how much media coverage of them plays a part. If we didn't sensationalize and make famous the shooters (name a victim of Columbine...Hard isn't it. Now name one of the two shooters. Easy.) I wonder if they'd be so common. It's like the coverage now is putting the option into disgruntled people's heads. "I'm mad as hell and not gonna take it any more! Hmm, could always bring my Dad's gun to school..." I was bullied throughout junior high but it never once occured to me to get a gun. I think then our gun-filled culture also shoulders some of the blame. And it's time we finally face facts and look at entertainment, in particular, movies and video games. We're not talking Street Fighter and Galaga any more. Videogames today, especially on home consoles, are defacto combat simulators. And when we call entertainment the gunplay and violent acting out amongst society, you have to wonder if for the marginally sane it's giving ideas they don't need.

Most of us grew up with violent movies, and arguably, thinking of the 80s gore-flicks, much more violent ones than today. But the ones now are very gun-centric. Even the heroes are using guns. Isn't mythological badguys any more but rank and file people armed to the teeth and Ramboing up. If we're serious about doing something about school shootings and gun violence in general we need to be willing to do the hard things. Some of these include:

- forbidding through legislation graphic violence in media like movies and tv shows (the tv ratings system is a total failure since now they can show anything they like and simply slap a tv-ma rating onto it, whereas previously certain content like grotesque violence was completely banned regardless. We should go back to that standard.) Censorship may be an ugly word especially to me as a liberal, but come on, where's the artistic merit of showing the human body being shot full of holes?

- ban the sales of violent or criminal-themed videogames. It's outrageous we're making popular game franchises where the "hero" is an assassin or street criminal (this means you "Assassin's Creed" and "Grand Theft Auto.") And impose felony charges on anyone selling such material (otherwise, banned materials just wind up being obtained via black market sources and most would roll their eyes about the obtaining of "just a videogame.")

- add mandatory classes to k-12 schools of some sort of interpersonal relationships featuring topics like conflict resolution, no-bullying, team building, and similar subject matter.

- forbid news media from graphicly showing a school shooting story. Can mention it happened, but no video of the fleeing students or responding law enforcement (both I'm sure are a thrill for future shooters to see) and no mention of the shooter(s.) If you can become famous for it, it'll happen more, deny them what they seek.

- teach actual sexual education. This is critical. Teens wanna have sex, deal with it. Instead of teaching abstinance, or sex is only for adults, teach masturbation, how to have sex without risking pregnancy, how to use birth control, and generally encourage sexual behaviour instead of denying at-risk-for-violence people like puberty-stricken teens from enjoying what their bodies are screaming for. If you can't have sexual relationships out in the open and have it a good and positive thing it has to be secret. And secrecy breeds stress and too much stress results in negative acting out. Rather than basically driving kids insane by repressing their sexuality, encourage them to express it safely and positively.


More gun laws isn't the answer. It's a knee-jerk feel-good response that doesn't do anything. Shooters just use whatever isn't banned. Instead we need to recondition society towards resolving problems more constructively and not via violence.

clicky >>>>>--------->A closer look: How many school shootings since Newtown? - CNN.com

this kinda "SHOOTS" your in the ass.., where your scintilla amount of brain power exists.

 

[hunarcy]

Let's blame everything but the guns.

Hey you know what, the Japanese have the same videogames and movies we have. And they don't have school shootings. Because people can't walk in and buy guns.

Also, in the 1990's, they tried the whole "Let's not put the school shooting on the first page.

It didn't work.

they didn't have the school shootings before they banned guns either. It ain't the gun

So, JoeTroll found a solution to a problem that didn't exist? How cool!

OMG, how could this happen???? I thought there was no murder in Japan!?!?

Japan hangs killer in first execution this year

 

[Ernie S.]

Let's blame everything but the guns.

Hey you know what, the Japanese have the same videogames and movies we have. And they don't have school shootings. Because people can't walk in and buy guns.

Also, in the 1990's, they tried the whole "Let's not put the school shooting on the first page.

It didn't work.

Blaming an inanimate object for crime is just plain silly, JoeB. Think about it sometime.

I have.

Criminals who don't have easy access to guns can't commit crimes as easily.

It's really pretty fucking simple.

But I'm not even talking about the criminals. Yes, we have too many of those. We lock up millions of people and still have crime

I'm talking about the suicides and the accidents and the guy who shoots his wife during an argument over who drank the last can of Milwaukee's Best. All those tragedies that could be avoided if we didn't let every asshole who wants a gun have one.

Criminals who can't get guns will still be criminals, Joe.
In Japan, the weapon of choice is a knife. Here in the States, mass murder with a knife is unheard of because of guns. Are you familiar with the advice: "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight"?

Osaka school massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
At 10:15 that morning, 37-year-old former janitor Mamoru Takuma entered the school armed with a kitchen knife and began stabbing numerous school children and teachers. He killed eight children, mostly between the ages of seven and eight, and seriously wounded thirteen other children and two teachers.[2]