730 jobs were saved and the Carrier deal

[Windship]

When will he put the 35% tariff on Carrier for the jobs that left?

That will never happen. trump is a globalist. And a sheep in wolves clothing....lookin' fer sheep...fer it's dinner....the wolf will not go hungry tonight.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When will he put the 35% tariff on Carrier for the jobs that left?

That will never happen. trump is a globalist. And a sheep in wolves clothing....lookin' fer sheep...fer it's dinner....the wolf will not go hungry tonight.

He will propose it, knowing that the REAL Republican party will kill it one way or another.

Then he'll claim victory for trying.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Almost all of the GOP members of Congress have pledged to no new taxes, right?

So none of them can support a tariff without breaking that pledge.

 

[mamooth]

So, Trump bribes Carrier to temporarily save some jobs.

Other companies have learned the lesson. If they threaten to move jobs away, Trump will instantly cave and throw massive amounts of government cash at them as well.

Quite the master negotiator, that Trump. But then, he does have near-infinite amounts of other people's money to bribe people with now, and then take credit for it, so I suppose caving suits his purpose now.

 

[The VOR]

Trump just wanted the shiney accomplishment to hang his hat on .

Why didn't Pence do this before ? It was all state taxes .

You all are getting annoying, if a dem pulled this off you'd be singing praises....we all know it.

I'm glad the jobs are saved . But don't act like Trump is a miracle worker. It's a stunt .

And shouldn't this be the part where you blame evil unions ?

Ya know Timmy (and the rest of you idiot loons) when you start bitching and moaning about blue states giving out tax incentives to businesses then you can whine, until then shut the fuck up

Now that isn't very christian-like language, is it? Oh, that's right, you are one of those hypocrite christians. You just talk it, you don't walk it.

 

[Windship]

Almost all of the GOP members of Congress have pledged to no new taxes, right?

So none of them can support a tariff without breaking that pledge.

Good. Tax the shit out of the rich I say. Fuck 'um. Thats what FDR did and the economy thrived.

 

[The VOR]

Either he comes through with jobs while he stays from alt right cultural and social taboos, or Trump is not going to finish his term. The American people are onto him as the man behind the curtain, a hum bug.

Oh come on now. He is just having a little fun on his "Victory Tour". Can't a guy have some fun? It's not like anyone takes anything he says seriously anyway..

 

[AntonToo]

he said "up to 1100". The 730 plus more new hires and the people who will be employed to upgrade and expand the factory.

As usual our lib members never tell the whole story.

Speaking of the whole story - the upgrade will be to AUTOMATE and save money by cutting some of the jobs.

 

[Windship]

So, Trump bribes Carrier to temporarily save some jobs.

Other companies have learned the lesson. If they threaten to move jobs away, Trump will instantly cave and throw massive amounts of government cash at them as well.

Quite the master negotiator, that Trump. But then, he does have near-infinite amounts of other people's money to bribe people with now, and then take credit for it, so I suppose caving suits his purpose now.

Yup. Now, all they have to do is mention leaving and poof! More tax payer subsidies.

 

[Redfish]

It is a being reported that the Trump team lied about the number of jobs saved as a result of the Indiana Carrier deal.
it is 730, not 1100 jobs as the media and Trump and Pence claimed.
Link to article here USW: 730 union jobs saved in Carrier deal - not 1,100

If we used Obama math, this would qualify as 730 jobs created.

It would qualify as equivalent of 730 jobs created, and it does. Other companies are lining up right now to get their paycheck for not having moved out yet.

So.. Trump created jobs even before ho took office. Hard to criticize that.

Yea? Do you recall the ease with which you criticized 2-3 MILLION JOBS PLAN CALLED STIMULUS in the middle of Great Recession? Now all of a sudden 700 job special deal is without reproach.

Trump didn't create shit, he wanted a photo shoot and Pence pointed him to a company he could have given (yet another) paycheck YEARS AGO all by himself.

the criticism was because it didn't work. Stimupork did not create jobs. Remember "ha ha the shovel ready jobs weren't as shovel ready as we thought, ha ha ha" Obama

 

[Redfish]

he said "up to 1100". The 730 plus more new hires and the people who will be employed to upgrade and expand the factory.

As usual our lib members never tell the whole story.

Speaking of the whole story - the upgrade will be to AUTOMATE and save money by cutting some of the jobs.

who will install the upgrades, humans or robots?

 

[edthecynic]

the criticism was because it didn't work. Stimupork did not create jobs. Remember "ha ha the shovel ready jobs weren't as shovel ready as we thought, ha ha ha" Obama

That is because the money was given to the state Governors, and the Republican Governors did not want to create jobs while Obama was president, so they applied the money to the pension funds they had borrowed from to reduce their debt rather than to work projects.

 

[Dragonlady]

70 million? Ya better have a link

70 million? Ya better have a link

My apologies, I thought it was $7 million per year times 10 years. It's 7 million over ten years. Paying Carrier ANYTHING, is wrong.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

70 million? Ya better have a link

70 million? Ya better have a link

My apologies, I thought it was $7 million per year times 10 years. It's 7 million over ten years. Paying Carrier ANYTHING, is wrong.

But blue states paying Ebay, Amazon, Boeing, etc is OK? Right? Sit down

 

[Dragonlady]

But blue states paying Ebay, Amazon, Boeing, etc is OK? Right? Sit down

Paying any amount of money to corporations for bring or keep jobs to your area, is wrong. Too many times, the corporations take the money now, and a year or two later, move the jobs anyway. It the antithesis of capitalism.

And taxpayers end up making up that shortfall, so it's always regular folks who get stuck with the costs, one way or another.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

But blue states paying Ebay, Amazon, Boeing, etc is OK? Right? Sit down

Paying any amount of money to corporations for bring or keep jobs to your area, is wrong. Too many times, the corporations take the money now, and a year or two later, move the jobs anyway. It the antithesis of capitalism.

And taxpayers end up making up that shortfall, so it's always regular folks who get stuck with the costs, one way or another.

At least you are consistent.

 

[Redfish]

the criticism was because it didn't work. Stimupork did not create jobs. Remember "ha ha the shovel ready jobs weren't as shovel ready as we thought, ha ha ha" Obama

That is because the money was given to the state Governors, and the Republican Governors did not want to create jobs while Obama was president, so they applied the money to the pension funds they had borrowed from to reduce their debt rather than to work projects.

good, you get an A for accurately repeating the dem/lib talking point on this, its bullshit but you parroted it correctly. Good for you, now report back to your masters for more indoctrination.

 

[AntonToo]

he said "up to 1100". The 730 plus more new hires and the people who will be employed to upgrade and expand the factory.

As usual our lib members never tell the whole story.

Speaking of the whole story - the upgrade will be to AUTOMATE and save money by cutting some of the jobs.

who will install the upgrades, humans or robots?

Silly, humans of course, but the point is there will be less, not more jobs due to upgrades.

They are not automating to spend MORE on labor, they are automating to cut labor costs.

 

[Redfish]

70 million? Ya better have a link

70 million? Ya better have a link

My apologies, I thought it was $7 million per year times 10 years. It's 7 million over ten years. Paying Carrier ANYTHING, is wrong.

tax incentives are not "paying". try to understand the meaning of the words you use. The state is not writing a check to Carrier. That would be paying.

 

[Norman]

Ah, more regressives being butthurt that America is already being made great, and Trump is not even in the office yet.