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[colfax_m]

This wasn't signage, this was a patriotic mural that somehow needed a PUBLIC Arts commission approval even though it was on PRIVATE property.

It's all the same shit.

It is the same shit. But it’s also the same shit that goes on in red states too.

If it’s a mural, it goes through the arts commission. If they don’t want to do that, then it’s a sign and needs a permit for that. That’s the rule.

 

[iceberg]

I’m not baiting you. You replied to me by trolling.

I’m the one discussing the issue. Not you.

I replied to your trolling.

you get RIGHT WING ASSHOLE remarks in every post. thst isn't talking issues, that's attacking a side.

it deserves no valid response. stick to issues and leave out the attacks, I'll do the same.

 

[Catman51]

I suspect that if the house next to mine painted a giant piece of "artwork" depicting this I would be happy for such rules.

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You are happy for any rule or law allowing you to dictate what others can do and limiting their freedom.

 

[colfax_m]

I replied to your trolling.

I did not troll. I was discussing the issue.

You aren’t counter trolling. You’re just trolling.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You are happy for any rule or law allowing you to dictate what others can do and limiting their freedom.

I am happy someone is not allowed to open a slaughter house or gun range next to my house, that is true.

 

[jc456]

They left out the part where murals have to be permitted before they can be painted on buildings. Or that no one insisted it be taken down.

Unpermitted mural honoring veterans at Salem business gets in crosshairs of code compliance

A patriotic mural painted on a Salem business ignited questions and controversy this week.

www.statesmanjournal.com

City officials contested this claim.

“This mural is a beautiful way to honor and recognize this significant moment in our history, and the sacrifices made by our veterans and their families," officials said in a statement.

"The reason for the code compliance contact is due to the fact that the mural was produced without an application to the Salem Public Arts Commission," Salem Public Works spokesman Trevor Smith said. "Since it hasn’t been established as public art through that process, it is considered a large wall sign per the city’s code. Our sign code is concerned with the size, location, and construction of signage, not what the sign says or how it is portrayed."

so are you saying all that gang slang lingo on every wall in a city should be removed? Where have you been objecting this was done without a permit?

Watching train cars decorated on 25% of the cars, and demofks are silent. can't make it up how anti american you all really are.

 

[martybegan]

It is the same shit. But it’s also the same shit that goes on in red states too.

If it’s a mural, it goes through the arts commission. If they don’t want to do that, then it’s a sign and needs a permit for that. That’s the rule.

Why does a PUBLIC art Commission have say over art on PRIVATE property?

 

[CowboyTed]

Odd.

That is a beautiful piece of art. I cannot fathom why anyone would get entangled in ordering its removal. Not only a silly thing to do but not even good optics.


It is rather ironic I can remember people attempting to protect graffiti on public land (101 freeway) when I lived in LA in the 90's. I think some of it is still there if it has not has someone else try and tag over it.

The real story is here:

Unpermitted mural honoring veterans at Salem business gets in crosshairs of code compliance

A patriotic mural painted on a Salem business ignited questions and controversy this week.

eu.statesmanjournal.com

It is a simple case of didn't get a proper permit... This is understandable as you don't want people putting up stuff that would be overly commercial or offensive...

As an example... If these soldiers where not raising a flag but Big Mac... You understand how some people could find that demeaning to veterans..

 

[jc456]

Whiny left loons are annoying

and so anti freedom.

 

[martybegan]

I am happy someone is not allowed to open a slaughter house or gun range next to my house, that is true.

Comparing industrial type vs. residential zoning to a ******* mural being on someone's wall is admitting you don't actually have an argument.

 

[jc456]

The real story is here:

Unpermitted mural honoring veterans at Salem business gets in crosshairs of code compliance

A patriotic mural painted on a Salem business ignited questions and controversy this week.

eu.statesmanjournal.com

It is a simple case of didn't get a proper permit... This is understandable as you don't want people putting up stuff that would be overly commercial or offensive...

As an example... If these soldiers where not raising a flag but Big Mac... You understand how some people could find that demeaning to veterans..

why don't they pay any attention to this type of art?

 

[martybegan]

The real story is here:

Unpermitted mural honoring veterans at Salem business gets in crosshairs of code compliance

A patriotic mural painted on a Salem business ignited questions and controversy this week.

eu.statesmanjournal.com

It is a simple case of didn't get a proper permit... This is understandable as you don't want people putting up stuff that would be overly commercial or offensive...

As an example... If these soldiers where not raising a flag but Big Mac... You understand how some people could find that demeaning to veterans..

Why does government have the right to determine what art is placed on your own property?

Unless it's a building code related to safety, then it's not government's job to get involved.

 

[colfax_m]

Why does a PUBLIC art Commission have say over art on PRIVATE property?

Because that’s what the rules says. Not my decision. I don’t like it either.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Comparing industrial type vs. residential zoning to a ******* mural being on someone's wall is admitting you don't actually have an argument.

Just pointing out we all agree with some of these rules, mostly based on how they impact us personally.

 

[CowboyTed]

It isn't involved in advertisement, or identification. It's a work of art.

Again, there is nothing wrong with a PAC reviewing art placed on public property, they have not right to have a say about private property.

The slow increase in regulations like this is nothing new, and is just another example of nanny state bullshit.

Fire codes are one thing, some asshole having the right to deny artwork on private property because of their own views and opinions is something else.

So you have no problem with people painting anything on there building as long it is not commercial...
So you have no problem with:

• Gang signs
• Soft porn
• NAZI signs
• Commuist signs
• Signs saying US veterans are just ex crisis actors

Sorry you maybe OK with that but other people (the majority) aren't...

 

[martybegan]

Because that’s what the rules says. Not my decision. I don’t like it either.

We are debating the rules, that's the point of this thread.

 

[martybegan]

Just pointing out we all agree with some of these rules, mostly based on how they impact us personally.

No, it's trying to justify defending Nanny State bullshit by argumentum ad absurdum.

 

[martybegan]

So you have no problem with people painting anything on there building as long it is not commercial...
So you have no problem with:

• Gang signs
• Soft porn
• NAZI signs
• Commuist signs
• Signs saying US veterans are just ex crisis actors

Sorry you maybe OK with that but other people (the majority) aren't...

It's called "walking down the street in Williamsburg".

A Tremendous Roundup Of Street Art Ridiculing Donald Trump

 

[CowboyTed]

this isnt signage you dumbass,,

Who made that call?

So I can put anything up and call it art...

 

[progressive hunter]

Who made that call?

So I can put anything up and call it art...

sorry I dont have time for stupid,,