7 ways America is doing better under Obama than Bush

[easyt65]

...still waiting for the 'facts', dumbmass...

 

[Billy000]

Republicans Say America Is Doing Terrible - 7 Reasons They Are Wrong!

In February of 2009, right after Obama took office, the uninsured rate was at 16.1%. It was no secret that our health care system was broken. And then came Obamacare. Now, it is true that Obamacare is not perfect….far from it actually. But many of the problems with Obamacare are a direct result of compromises made to appease the Republicans in an effort to make it a bipartisan bill. As we now know, Obamacare is nowhere near the single payer system that Liberals originally wanted. But even with all of the flaws that still need to be addressed, it is definitely better than the broken system that we had before. According to Forbes, for the first time EVER the rate of uninsured Americans is now below 10% (it’s currently at 9.0%).

The Unemployment Rate
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the unemployment rate was 8.3% in February of 2009. But as you can see in this graph there has been a steady decline under President Obama. Last month the unemployment rate was down to 5.0%.

Beyond the official unemployment rate we have other rates which factor in things like discouraged workers and part time workers. One of those other rates is know as the U6 ratewhich adds on the workers who are working part-time purely for economic reasons. That figure the righties love to quote of nearly 10% is using the U6 numbers. But here’s the thing…even when you use the U6 figures there has been a vast improvement. In February of ’09 the U6 unemployment rate was 15.1%. It is now at 9.8%.

The economy was in the tank when Obama took over.

My mother could have taken over and things would have gotten better.

The American people don't need Bush or Obama...they just need them out of the way.

The economy was in the tank when Obama took over thanks to 2 years of Congress & spending controlled by Democrats, who were 3 seats shy of having a Super Majority! The poor economy Obines cries about inheriting....was inherited from HIS OWN PARTY!

YOU JUST CAN'T FIX 'STUPID' (Democrats)...but it's a good idea to do it cause stupid people shouldn't BREED!

This is so stupid. The recession began 4 months before Obama became president and 6 months into his presidency, the recession ended and we have had JOB GROWTH EVER SINCE. 12 million private jobs. 3 million of the jobs are directly attributed to his stimulus package that reversed the recession.

You mean the FAILED almost $1 TRILLION Stimulus that contained over 7,000 pieces of DNC-ONLY self/party-serving tax-dollar-wasting PORK that ended up costing tax payers OVER $742,000 PER JOB Obama CLAIMED to have created?!

How can you be so dumb to not actually do research what was actually in the stimulus. Do you just buy into everything republicans say? You obviously don't get your information from anywhere else. Half of that 787 billion was TAX CUTS with the biggest cut for the middle class since Reagan. It also contained an extension to the unemployment benefits to the millions who lost their jobs against their will and infrastructure spending.

 

[Billy000]

...still waiting for the 'facts', dumbmass...

You're such a doofus. I presented you at least a dozen facts in my thread. Until you disprove them, which you won't, you are talking out of your ass. You're just too immature to admit that I'm right.

 

[easyt65]

...still waiting for the 'facts', dumbmass...

You're such a doofus. I presented you at least a dozen facts in my thread. Until you disprove them, which you won't, you are talking out of your ass. You're just too immature to admit that I'm right.

FAIL!

 

[Billy000]

...still waiting for the 'facts', dumbmass...

You're such a doofus. I presented you at least a dozen facts in my thread. Until you disprove them, which you won't, you are talking out of your ass. You're just too immature to admit that I'm right.

FAIL!

Yeah I figured.

 

[easyt65]

Republicans Say America Is Doing Terrible - 7 Reasons They Are Wrong!

The economy was in the tank when Obama took over.

My mother could have taken over and things would have gotten better.

The American people don't need Bush or Obama...they just need them out of the way.

The economy was in the tank when Obama took over thanks to 2 years of Congress & spending controlled by Democrats, who were 3 seats shy of having a Super Majority! The poor economy Obines cries about inheriting....was inherited from HIS OWN PARTY!

YOU JUST CAN'T FIX 'STUPID' (Democrats)...but it's a good idea to do it cause stupid people shouldn't BREED!

This is so stupid. The recession began 4 months before Obama became president and 6 months into his presidency, the recession ended and we have had JOB GROWTH EVER SINCE. 12 million private jobs. 3 million of the jobs are directly attributed to his stimulus package that reversed the recession.

You mean the FAILED almost $1 TRILLION Stimulus that contained over 7,000 pieces of DNC-ONLY self/party-serving tax-dollar-wasting PORK that ended up costing tax payers OVER $742,000 PER JOB Obama CLAIMED to have created?!

How can you be so dumb to not actually do research what was actually in the stimulus. Do you just buy into everything republicans say? You obviously don't get your information from anywhere else. Half of that 787 billion was TAX CUTS with the biggest cut for the middle class since Reagan. It also contained an extension to the unemployment benefits to the millions who lost their jobs against their will and infrastructure spending.

STIMULUS:
1. $875 BILLION

2. Millions to teach alcoholic Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on duty (WHY?)

3. Millions for a study on whether the sex life of a homosexual Argentinian is better than that of a heterosexual American Male (WHY?)

4. Millions for Feinstein's husband to bail his business out of bankruptcy (HOW DID THAT HELP AMERICANS?!)

5. Millions borrowed FROM CHINA to GIVE BACK TO CHINA so they cound modernize THEIR factories (SERIOUSLY?!)

6. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR (WHY? Obama proved he was a moron by admitting he didn't know there are no such things as 'shovel-ready' projects)

7. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED V.A. restructuring / changes (WHY?)

8. Businesses reported Obama claimed he saved more jobs than actually existed at their companies (We know WHY - HE'S A LIAR)

9. Cash for Clunkers, destroying used cars, ended up HURTING the Middle Class

10. 'Nationalized' a U.S. car manufacturer, violated 'Bankruptcy' laws by doing so, gave unions that owned his ass 1/2 ownership, resulted in the partial sell-off of the company to a foreign owner that was in worse financial shape, and finally LOST billions when they finally sold off MOST of the stock the government had seized...

I did research the Stimulus, enough to school your ass. YOU should have done YOUR homework, Libtard!

Stimulus = FAIL!!!

 

[Billy000]

The economy was in the tank when Obama took over.

My mother could have taken over and things would have gotten better.

The American people don't need Bush or Obama...they just need them out of the way.

The economy was in the tank when Obama took over thanks to 2 years of Congress & spending controlled by Democrats, who were 3 seats shy of having a Super Majority! The poor economy Obines cries about inheriting....was inherited from HIS OWN PARTY!

YOU JUST CAN'T FIX 'STUPID' (Democrats)...but it's a good idea to do it cause stupid people shouldn't BREED!

This is so stupid. The recession began 4 months before Obama became president and 6 months into his presidency, the recession ended and we have had JOB GROWTH EVER SINCE. 12 million private jobs. 3 million of the jobs are directly attributed to his stimulus package that reversed the recession.

You mean the FAILED almost $1 TRILLION Stimulus that contained over 7,000 pieces of DNC-ONLY self/party-serving tax-dollar-wasting PORK that ended up costing tax payers OVER $742,000 PER JOB Obama CLAIMED to have created?!

How can you be so dumb to not actually do research what was actually in the stimulus. Do you just buy into everything republicans say? You obviously don't get your information from anywhere else. Half of that 787 billion was TAX CUTS with the biggest cut for the middle class since Reagan. It also contained an extension to the unemployment benefits to the millions who lost their jobs against their will and infrastructure spending.

STIMULUS:
1. $875 BILLION

2. Millions to teach alcoholic Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on duty (WHY?)

3. Millions for a study on whether the sex life of a homosexual Argentinian is better than that of a heterosexual American Male (WHY?)

4. Millions for Feinstein's husband to bail his business out of bankruptcy

5. Millions borrowed FROM CHINA to GIVE CHINA so they cound modernize THEIR factories

6. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR

7. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED V.A. restructuring / changes

8. Businesses reported Obama claimed he saved more jobs than actually existed at their companies

9. Cash for Clunkers, destroying used cars, ended up HURTING the Middle Class

10. 'Nationalized' a U.S. car manufacturer, violated 'Bankruptcy' laws by doing so, gave unions that owned his ass 1/2 ownership, resulted in the partial sell-off of the company to a foreign owner that was in worse financial shape, and finally LOST billions when they finally sold off MOST of the stock the government had seized...

I did research the Stimulus, enough to school your ass. YOU should have done YOUR homework, Libtard!

Stimulus = FAIL!!!

Oh right your vague list is supposed to be compelling? You're such a dweeb lol. Here is actual facts on the stimulus:

Articles debating the successes or failures of President Obama’s stimulus package should be of interest to NPQNewswire readers, given that nonprofits were among the most important intermediaries for and deliverers of stimulus programs. In the upcoming issue of Foreign Policy, TIME Magazine’sMichael Grunwald suggests that the stimulus was “certainly a political failure,” but “there is voluminous evidence that the stimulus did provide real stimulus, helping to stop a terrifying free-fall, avert a second Depression, and end a brutal recession.” Grunwald’s long article addresses the pros and cons of the stimulus, some of which is presented below.

CONS

• There were some “silly expenditures, like costumes for water-safety mascots…and fictitious expenditures, like levitating trains to Disneyland” and other examples of expenditures that might have qualified for the late Sen. William Proxmire’s regular “Golden Fleece” awards.
• The jobless rate is still over eight percent, the longest run of unemployment over eight percent since the Depression.
• “Some of Obama’s progressive critics…complain that he should have gotten more out of Congress once it became clear the initial jolt wouldn't restore a vibrant economy…[Paul] Krugman, who had warned that inadequate stimulus would give stimulus a bad name, had been right.”

PROS

• According to the Moody’s website Economy.com, JPMorgan Chase, and the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus “increased GDP at least 2 percentage points, the difference between contraction and growth, and saved or created about 2.5 million jobs.”
• “A Washington Post review of Recovery Act studies found six that showed a positive economic effect versus one useful study (by prominent Republican economist John B. Taylor) that concluded the stimulus failed—and critics noted that Taylor’s data just as easily support the conclusion that the stimulus was too small.”
• The Recovery Act’s provision of extra food stamps, unemployment benefits, and other social safety net protections “made an extraordinarily painful time less painful, lifting at least 7 million Americans above the poverty line while making 32 million poor Americans less poor.”
• “(T)he Recovery Act was the biggest, most transformative energy bill in history, financing unprecedented government investments in a smarter grid, cleaner coal, energy efficiency in every imaginable form, ‘green-collar’ job training, electric vehicles and the infrastructure to support them, advanced biofuels and the refineries to brew them, renewable power from the sun, the wind, and the heat below the earth, and factories to manufacture all that green stuff in the United States.”
• “The stimulus was also the biggest and most transformative education reform bill since the Great Society, shaking up public schools with a ‘Race to the Top’ competition designed to reward innovation and punish mediocrity.”
• “It was a big and transformative health-care bill, too, laying the foundation for Obama’s even bigger and more transformative reforms a year later; for example, it poured $27 billion into computerizing America’s pen-and-paper medical system, which should reduce redundant tests, dangerous drug interactions, and fatal errors by doctors with chicken-scratch handwriting.”
• “It included America’s biggest foray into industrial policy since FDR, the biggest expansion of anti-poverty initiatives since LBJ, the biggest middle-class tax cut since Ronald Reagan, and the biggest infusion of research money ever. It sent $8 billion into a new high-speed passenger rail network, the biggest new transportation initiative since the interstate highways, and another $7 billion to expand the country’s existing high-speed Internet network to underserved communities, a modern twist on the New Deal’s rural electrification.”
• “Experts had warned that 5 percent of the stimulus could be lost to fraud, but investigators have documented less than $10 million in losses—about 0.001 percent.”
• The homelessness prevention provisions of the Recovery Act helped house 1.2 million Americans who might have significantly added to the nation’s homeless population otherwise.

Was the Obama Stimulus a Success or a Failure?

 

[easyt65]

The economy was in the tank when Obama took over thanks to 2 years of Congress & spending controlled by Democrats, who were 3 seats shy of having a Super Majority! The poor economy Obines cries about inheriting....was inherited from HIS OWN PARTY!

YOU JUST CAN'T FIX 'STUPID' (Democrats)...but it's a good idea to do it cause stupid people shouldn't BREED!

This is so stupid. The recession began 4 months before Obama became president and 6 months into his presidency, the recession ended and we have had JOB GROWTH EVER SINCE. 12 million private jobs. 3 million of the jobs are directly attributed to his stimulus package that reversed the recession.

You mean the FAILED almost $1 TRILLION Stimulus that contained over 7,000 pieces of DNC-ONLY self/party-serving tax-dollar-wasting PORK that ended up costing tax payers OVER $742,000 PER JOB Obama CLAIMED to have created?!

How can you be so dumb to not actually do research what was actually in the stimulus. Do you just buy into everything republicans say? You obviously don't get your information from anywhere else. Half of that 787 billion was TAX CUTS with the biggest cut for the middle class since Reagan. It also contained an extension to the unemployment benefits to the millions who lost their jobs against their will and infrastructure spending.

STIMULUS:
1. $875 BILLION

2. Millions to teach alcoholic Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on duty (WHY?)

3. Millions for a study on whether the sex life of a homosexual Argentinian is better than that of a heterosexual American Male (WHY?)

4. Millions for Feinstein's husband to bail his business out of bankruptcy

5. Millions borrowed FROM CHINA to GIVE CHINA so they cound modernize THEIR factories

6. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR

7. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED V.A. restructuring / changes

8. Businesses reported Obama claimed he saved more jobs than actually existed at their companies

9. Cash for Clunkers, destroying used cars, ended up HURTING the Middle Class

10. 'Nationalized' a U.S. car manufacturer, violated 'Bankruptcy' laws by doing so, gave unions that owned his ass 1/2 ownership, resulted in the partial sell-off of the company to a foreign owner that was in worse financial shape, and finally LOST billions when they finally sold off MOST of the stock the government had seized...

I did research the Stimulus, enough to school your ass. YOU should have done YOUR homework, Libtard!

Stimulus = FAIL!!!

Oh right your vague list is supposed to be compelling? You're such a dweeb lol. Here is actual facts on the stimulus:

Articles debating the successes or failures of President Obama’s stimulus package should be of interest to NPQNewswire readers, given that nonprofits were among the most important intermediaries for and deliverers of stimulus programs. In the upcoming issue of Foreign Policy, TIME Magazine’sMichael Grunwald suggests that the stimulus was “certainly a political failure,” but “there is voluminous evidence that the stimulus did provide real stimulus, helping to stop a terrifying free-fall, avert a second Depression, and end a brutal recession.” Grunwald’s long article addresses the pros and cons of the stimulus, some of which is presented below.

CONS

• There were some “silly expenditures, like costumes for water-safety mascots…and fictitious expenditures, like levitating trains to Disneyland” and other examples of expenditures that might have qualified for the late Sen. William Proxmire’s regular “Golden Fleece” awards.
• The jobless rate is still over eight percent, the longest run of unemployment over eight percent since the Depression.
• “Some of Obama’s progressive critics…complain that he should have gotten more out of Congress once it became clear the initial jolt wouldn't restore a vibrant economy…[Paul] Krugman, who had warned that inadequate stimulus would give stimulus a bad name, had been right.”

PROS

• According to the Moody’s website Economy.com, JPMorgan Chase, and the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus “increased GDP at least 2 percentage points, the difference between contraction and growth, and saved or created about 2.5 million jobs.”
• “A Washington Post review of Recovery Act studies found six that showed a positive economic effect versus one useful study (by prominent Republican economist John B. Taylor) that concluded the stimulus failed—and critics noted that Taylor’s data just as easily support the conclusion that the stimulus was too small.”
• The Recovery Act’s provision of extra food stamps, unemployment benefits, and other social safety net protections “made an extraordinarily painful time less painful, lifting at least 7 million Americans above the poverty line while making 32 million poor Americans less poor.”
• “(T)he Recovery Act was the biggest, most transformative energy bill in history, financing unprecedented government investments in a smarter grid, cleaner coal, energy efficiency in every imaginable form, ‘green-collar’ job training, electric vehicles and the infrastructure to support them, advanced biofuels and the refineries to brew them, renewable power from the sun, the wind, and the heat below the earth, and factories to manufacture all that green stuff in the United States.”
• “The stimulus was also the biggest and most transformative education reform bill since the Great Society, shaking up public schools with a ‘Race to the Top’ competition designed to reward innovation and punish mediocrity.”
• “It was a big and transformative health-care bill, too, laying the foundation for Obama’s even bigger and more transformative reforms a year later; for example, it poured $27 billion into computerizing America’s pen-and-paper medical system, which should reduce redundant tests, dangerous drug interactions, and fatal errors by doctors with chicken-scratch handwriting.”
• “It included America’s biggest foray into industrial policy since FDR, the biggest expansion of anti-poverty initiatives since LBJ, the biggest middle-class tax cut since Ronald Reagan, and the biggest infusion of research money ever. It sent $8 billion into a new high-speed passenger rail network, the biggest new transportation initiative since the interstate highways, and another $7 billion to expand the country’s existing high-speed Internet network to underserved communities, a modern twist on the New Deal’s rural electrification.”
• “Experts had warned that 5 percent of the stimulus could be lost to fraud, but investigators have documented less than $10 million in losses—about 0.001 percent.”
• The homelessness prevention provisions of the Recovery Act helped house 1.2 million Americans who might have significantly added to the nation’s homeless population otherwise.

Was the Obama Stimulus a Success or a Failure?

'VAGUE LIST'?! You just got your ass spanked on this board by REAL facts...

OVER 7,000 pieces of Party/Self-serving PORK, which amounts to a FLEECING of American tax payers!

Result? Record-setting, historical loss in 2014! America rejected the Liberals' B$ in record-setting fashion!

Instead of giving millions of American tax dollars to Chinese prostitutes and Argentinian 'pole-smokers', WHY didn't liberals spend money on crumbling infrastructure, on the VA? This DNC spending wet dream was CRIMINAL mis-management of hard-working Americans' tax dollars!

 

[Billy000]

This is so stupid. The recession began 4 months before Obama became president and 6 months into his presidency, the recession ended and we have had JOB GROWTH EVER SINCE. 12 million private jobs. 3 million of the jobs are directly attributed to his stimulus package that reversed the recession.

You mean the FAILED almost $1 TRILLION Stimulus that contained over 7,000 pieces of DNC-ONLY self/party-serving tax-dollar-wasting PORK that ended up costing tax payers OVER $742,000 PER JOB Obama CLAIMED to have created?!

How can you be so dumb to not actually do research what was actually in the stimulus. Do you just buy into everything republicans say? You obviously don't get your information from anywhere else. Half of that 787 billion was TAX CUTS with the biggest cut for the middle class since Reagan. It also contained an extension to the unemployment benefits to the millions who lost their jobs against their will and infrastructure spending.

STIMULUS:
1. $875 BILLION

2. Millions to teach alcoholic Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on duty (WHY?)

3. Millions for a study on whether the sex life of a homosexual Argentinian is better than that of a heterosexual American Male (WHY?)

4. Millions for Feinstein's husband to bail his business out of bankruptcy

5. Millions borrowed FROM CHINA to GIVE CHINA so they cound modernize THEIR factories

6. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR

7. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED V.A. restructuring / changes

8. Businesses reported Obama claimed he saved more jobs than actually existed at their companies

9. Cash for Clunkers, destroying used cars, ended up HURTING the Middle Class

10. 'Nationalized' a U.S. car manufacturer, violated 'Bankruptcy' laws by doing so, gave unions that owned his ass 1/2 ownership, resulted in the partial sell-off of the company to a foreign owner that was in worse financial shape, and finally LOST billions when they finally sold off MOST of the stock the government had seized...

I did research the Stimulus, enough to school your ass. YOU should have done YOUR homework, Libtard!

Stimulus = FAIL!!!

Oh right your vague list is supposed to be compelling? You're such a dweeb lol. Here is actual facts on the stimulus:

Articles debating the successes or failures of President Obama’s stimulus package should be of interest to NPQNewswire readers, given that nonprofits were among the most important intermediaries for and deliverers of stimulus programs. In the upcoming issue of Foreign Policy, TIME Magazine’sMichael Grunwald suggests that the stimulus was “certainly a political failure,” but “there is voluminous evidence that the stimulus did provide real stimulus, helping to stop a terrifying free-fall, avert a second Depression, and end a brutal recession.” Grunwald’s long article addresses the pros and cons of the stimulus, some of which is presented below.

CONS

• There were some “silly expenditures, like costumes for water-safety mascots…and fictitious expenditures, like levitating trains to Disneyland” and other examples of expenditures that might have qualified for the late Sen. William Proxmire’s regular “Golden Fleece” awards.
• The jobless rate is still over eight percent, the longest run of unemployment over eight percent since the Depression.
• “Some of Obama’s progressive critics…complain that he should have gotten more out of Congress once it became clear the initial jolt wouldn't restore a vibrant economy…[Paul] Krugman, who had warned that inadequate stimulus would give stimulus a bad name, had been right.”

PROS

• According to the Moody’s website Economy.com, JPMorgan Chase, and the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus “increased GDP at least 2 percentage points, the difference between contraction and growth, and saved or created about 2.5 million jobs.”
• “A Washington Post review of Recovery Act studies found six that showed a positive economic effect versus one useful study (by prominent Republican economist John B. Taylor) that concluded the stimulus failed—and critics noted that Taylor’s data just as easily support the conclusion that the stimulus was too small.”
• The Recovery Act’s provision of extra food stamps, unemployment benefits, and other social safety net protections “made an extraordinarily painful time less painful, lifting at least 7 million Americans above the poverty line while making 32 million poor Americans less poor.”
• “(T)he Recovery Act was the biggest, most transformative energy bill in history, financing unprecedented government investments in a smarter grid, cleaner coal, energy efficiency in every imaginable form, ‘green-collar’ job training, electric vehicles and the infrastructure to support them, advanced biofuels and the refineries to brew them, renewable power from the sun, the wind, and the heat below the earth, and factories to manufacture all that green stuff in the United States.”
• “The stimulus was also the biggest and most transformative education reform bill since the Great Society, shaking up public schools with a ‘Race to the Top’ competition designed to reward innovation and punish mediocrity.”
• “It was a big and transformative health-care bill, too, laying the foundation for Obama’s even bigger and more transformative reforms a year later; for example, it poured $27 billion into computerizing America’s pen-and-paper medical system, which should reduce redundant tests, dangerous drug interactions, and fatal errors by doctors with chicken-scratch handwriting.”
• “It included America’s biggest foray into industrial policy since FDR, the biggest expansion of anti-poverty initiatives since LBJ, the biggest middle-class tax cut since Ronald Reagan, and the biggest infusion of research money ever. It sent $8 billion into a new high-speed passenger rail network, the biggest new transportation initiative since the interstate highways, and another $7 billion to expand the country’s existing high-speed Internet network to underserved communities, a modern twist on the New Deal’s rural electrification.”
• “Experts had warned that 5 percent of the stimulus could be lost to fraud, but investigators have documented less than $10 million in losses—about 0.001 percent.”
• The homelessness prevention provisions of the Recovery Act helped house 1.2 million Americans who might have significantly added to the nation’s homeless population otherwise.

Was the Obama Stimulus a Success or a Failure?

'VAGUE LIST'?! You just got your ass spanked on this board by REAL facts...

OVER 7,000 pieces of Party/Self-serving PORK, which amounts to a FLEECING of American tax payers!

Result? Record-setting, historical loss in 2014! America rejected the Liberals' B$ in record-setting fashion!

Instead of giving millions of American tax dollars to Chinese prostitutes and Argentinian 'pole-smokers', WHY didn't liberals spend money on crumbling infrastructure, on the VA? This DNC spending wet dream was CRIMINAL mis-management of hard-working Americans' tax dollars!

Lol do you realize how pathetic you come across by not citing any of the bullshit you are spewing with an actual source?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

According to the Moody’s website Economy.com, JPMorgan Chase, and the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus “increased GDP at least 2 percentage points, the difference between contraction and growth, and saved or created about 2.5 million jobs.”

***********************

And, of course we trust these folks.

They went begging to Bush and Obama to bail out their industry so they are going to say Obama failed ?

Next, they have no way of substantiating their claims. We didn't let the recession run it's course without their interference. So we'll never know.

Next, you have no way of knowing what the long term effects are.

A short term help might have been a long term bust and the economy has not come roaring back.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You mean the FAILED almost $1 TRILLION Stimulus that contained over 7,000 pieces of DNC-ONLY self/party-serving tax-dollar-wasting PORK that ended up costing tax payers OVER $742,000 PER JOB Obama CLAIMED to have created?!

How can you be so dumb to not actually do research what was actually in the stimulus. Do you just buy into everything republicans say? You obviously don't get your information from anywhere else. Half of that 787 billion was TAX CUTS with the biggest cut for the middle class since Reagan. It also contained an extension to the unemployment benefits to the millions who lost their jobs against their will and infrastructure spending.

STIMULUS:
1. $875 BILLION

2. Millions to teach alcoholic Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly on duty (WHY?)

3. Millions for a study on whether the sex life of a homosexual Argentinian is better than that of a heterosexual American Male (WHY?)

4. Millions for Feinstein's husband to bail his business out of bankruptcy

5. Millions borrowed FROM CHINA to GIVE CHINA so they cound modernize THEIR factories

6. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE REPAIR

7. NO MONEY FOR MUCH-NEEDED V.A. restructuring / changes

8. Businesses reported Obama claimed he saved more jobs than actually existed at their companies

9. Cash for Clunkers, destroying used cars, ended up HURTING the Middle Class

10. 'Nationalized' a U.S. car manufacturer, violated 'Bankruptcy' laws by doing so, gave unions that owned his ass 1/2 ownership, resulted in the partial sell-off of the company to a foreign owner that was in worse financial shape, and finally LOST billions when they finally sold off MOST of the stock the government had seized...

I did research the Stimulus, enough to school your ass. YOU should have done YOUR homework, Libtard!

Stimulus = FAIL!!!

Oh right your vague list is supposed to be compelling? You're such a dweeb lol. Here is actual facts on the stimulus:

Articles debating the successes or failures of President Obama’s stimulus package should be of interest to NPQNewswire readers, given that nonprofits were among the most important intermediaries for and deliverers of stimulus programs. In the upcoming issue of Foreign Policy, TIME Magazine’sMichael Grunwald suggests that the stimulus was “certainly a political failure,” but “there is voluminous evidence that the stimulus did provide real stimulus, helping to stop a terrifying free-fall, avert a second Depression, and end a brutal recession.” Grunwald’s long article addresses the pros and cons of the stimulus, some of which is presented below.

CONS

• There were some “silly expenditures, like costumes for water-safety mascots…and fictitious expenditures, like levitating trains to Disneyland” and other examples of expenditures that might have qualified for the late Sen. William Proxmire’s regular “Golden Fleece” awards.
• The jobless rate is still over eight percent, the longest run of unemployment over eight percent since the Depression.
• “Some of Obama’s progressive critics…complain that he should have gotten more out of Congress once it became clear the initial jolt wouldn't restore a vibrant economy…[Paul] Krugman, who had warned that inadequate stimulus would give stimulus a bad name, had been right.”

PROS

• According to the Moody’s website Economy.com, JPMorgan Chase, and the Congressional Budget Office, the stimulus “increased GDP at least 2 percentage points, the difference between contraction and growth, and saved or created about 2.5 million jobs.”
• “A Washington Post review of Recovery Act studies found six that showed a positive economic effect versus one useful study (by prominent Republican economist John B. Taylor) that concluded the stimulus failed—and critics noted that Taylor’s data just as easily support the conclusion that the stimulus was too small.”
• The Recovery Act’s provision of extra food stamps, unemployment benefits, and other social safety net protections “made an extraordinarily painful time less painful, lifting at least 7 million Americans above the poverty line while making 32 million poor Americans less poor.”
• “(T)he Recovery Act was the biggest, most transformative energy bill in history, financing unprecedented government investments in a smarter grid, cleaner coal, energy efficiency in every imaginable form, ‘green-collar’ job training, electric vehicles and the infrastructure to support them, advanced biofuels and the refineries to brew them, renewable power from the sun, the wind, and the heat below the earth, and factories to manufacture all that green stuff in the United States.”
• “The stimulus was also the biggest and most transformative education reform bill since the Great Society, shaking up public schools with a ‘Race to the Top’ competition designed to reward innovation and punish mediocrity.”
• “It was a big and transformative health-care bill, too, laying the foundation for Obama’s even bigger and more transformative reforms a year later; for example, it poured $27 billion into computerizing America’s pen-and-paper medical system, which should reduce redundant tests, dangerous drug interactions, and fatal errors by doctors with chicken-scratch handwriting.”
• “It included America’s biggest foray into industrial policy since FDR, the biggest expansion of anti-poverty initiatives since LBJ, the biggest middle-class tax cut since Ronald Reagan, and the biggest infusion of research money ever. It sent $8 billion into a new high-speed passenger rail network, the biggest new transportation initiative since the interstate highways, and another $7 billion to expand the country’s existing high-speed Internet network to underserved communities, a modern twist on the New Deal’s rural electrification.”
• “Experts had warned that 5 percent of the stimulus could be lost to fraud, but investigators have documented less than $10 million in losses—about 0.001 percent.”
• The homelessness prevention provisions of the Recovery Act helped house 1.2 million Americans who might have significantly added to the nation’s homeless population otherwise.

Was the Obama Stimulus a Success or a Failure?

'VAGUE LIST'?! You just got your ass spanked on this board by REAL facts...

OVER 7,000 pieces of Party/Self-serving PORK, which amounts to a FLEECING of American tax payers!

Result? Record-setting, historical loss in 2014! America rejected the Liberals' B$ in record-setting fashion!

Instead of giving millions of American tax dollars to Chinese prostitutes and Argentinian 'pole-smokers', WHY didn't liberals spend money on crumbling infrastructure, on the VA? This DNC spending wet dream was CRIMINAL mis-management of hard-working Americans' tax dollars!

Lol do you realize how pathetic you come across by not citing any of the bullshit you are spewing with an actual source?

Lol (to use your stupid term), you are the one who comes across as pathetic in your devotion to the same BS talking points you posted each time you put this stupid premise up. It keeps getting decimated and yet you keep coming back to post it.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

So I went back and read the link from the OP.

It's not the first time BillyFail has brought this to the board.

It is nothing.

There are no links....only "The experts say".....

But somehow this is supposed to be a fact.

Making a statement like.....the biggest most transformative energy bill requires at least some backing of what it was and what it is and what was transformed.

I don't want links now...the point is that BillyFail puts up an article and essentially says "See, I told you" when he's got nothing.

What makes this all the more funny is that BillyFail is the one who is after the "critical thinking skills of the right".

Then he posts this crapp.

You can''t make comedy up any better than this.

 

[Billy000]

So I went back and read the link from the OP.

It's not the first time BillyFail has brought this to the board.

It is nothing.

There are no links....only "The experts say".....

But somehow this is supposed to be a fact.

Making a statement like.....the biggest most transformative energy bill requires at least some backing of what it was and what it is and what was transformed.

I don't want links now...the point is that BillyFail puts up an article and essentially says "See, I told you" when he's got nothing.

What makes this all the more funny is that BillyFail is the one who is after the "critical thinking skills of the right".

Then he posts this crapp.

You can''t make comedy up any better than this.

You know it's relatively obvious that when you post in my threads you don't actually care about what I post, you just feel the need to attack me directly. After awhile I gotta tell you it just comes across as noise. It achieves nothing.

 

[easyt65]

Billy, BOTTOM LINE, when an administration costs tax payers OVER $742,000 to create 1 job (PER JOB) - according to the GAO - THAT is not only a FAIL, but when you take into account the # of self/party-serving pieces of pork (over 7,000) - and what that pork consisted of, that is CRIMINAL FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY!

Nearly $1 trillion & NO money for infrastructure, NO money for the VA, NO money for homeless vets, NO money so a US Ambassador could keep 16 members of his security detail (not even to get the additional security he asked for) to prevent his assassination (...but thank goodness tax payers bailed out millionaire Democrat Feinstein's husband's company out of bankruptcy)!

Nothing else need be said about the PO$ Stimulus bill!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Republicans Say America Is Doing Terrible - 7 Reasons They Are Wrong!

In February of 2009, right after Obama took office, the uninsured rate was at 16.1%. It was no secret that our health care system was broken. And then came Obamacare. Now, it is true that Obamacare is not perfect….far from it actually. But many of the problems with Obamacare are a direct result of compromises made to appease the Republicans in an effort to make it a bipartisan bill. As we now know, Obamacare is nowhere near the single payer system that Liberals originally wanted. But even with all of the flaws that still need to be addressed, it is definitely better than the broken system that we had before. According to Forbes, for the first time EVER the rate of uninsured Americans is now below 10% (it’s currently at 9.0%).

The Unemployment Rate
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the unemployment rate was 8.3% in February of 2009. But as you can see in this graph there has been a steady decline under President Obama. Last month the unemployment rate was down to 5.0%.

Beyond the official unemployment rate we have other rates which factor in things like discouraged workers and part time workers. One of those other rates is know as the U6 ratewhich adds on the workers who are working part-time purely for economic reasons. That figure the righties love to quote of nearly 10% is using the U6 numbers. But here’s the thing…even when you use the U6 figures there has been a vast improvement. In February of ’09 the U6 unemployment rate was 15.1%. It is now at 9.8%.

America was/is liberal under Bush/Obama so the premise is absurd.

 

[Conservative65]

Republicans Say America Is Doing Terrible - 7 Reasons They Are Wrong!

In February of 2009, right after Obama took office, the uninsured rate was at 16.1%. It was no secret that our health care system was broken. And then came Obamacare. Now, it is true that Obamacare is not perfect….far from it actually. But many of the problems with Obamacare are a direct result of compromises made to appease the Republicans in an effort to make it a bipartisan bill. As we now know, Obamacare is nowhere near the single payer system that Liberals originally wanted. But even with all of the flaws that still need to be addressed, it is definitely better than the broken system that we had before. According to Forbes, for the first time EVER the rate of uninsured Americans is now below 10% (it’s currently at 9.0%).

The Unemployment Rate
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the unemployment rate was 8.3% in February of 2009. But as you can see in this graph there has been a steady decline under President Obama. Last month the unemployment rate was down to 5.0%.

Beyond the official unemployment rate we have other rates which factor in things like discouraged workers and part time workers. One of those other rates is know as the U6 ratewhich adds on the workers who are working part-time purely for economic reasons. That figure the righties love to quote of nearly 10% is using the U6 numbers. But here’s the thing…even when you use the U6 figures there has been a vast improvement. In February of ’09 the U6 unemployment rate was 15.1%. It is now at 9.8%.

Funny how you left out how so many more relying on food stamps is better under Obama than the lower amount under Bush.

You addressed more insured under Obama. That's not hard to to when you force another group of people to subsidize the costs of those having it now. If you really want to compare apples to apples, compare how many of them would have it if someone else wasn't funding a portion of it for them. You want to give Obama credit when the ONLY way those people get it is for someone else to provide it to them by offsetting the costs. Hardly anything to be proud of.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

So I went back and read the link from the OP.

It's not the first time BillyFail has brought this to the board.

It is nothing.

There are no links....only "The experts say".....

But somehow this is supposed to be a fact.

Making a statement like.....the biggest most transformative energy bill requires at least some backing of what it was and what it is and what was transformed.

I don't want links now...the point is that BillyFail puts up an article and essentially says "See, I told you" when he's got nothing.

What makes this all the more funny is that BillyFail is the one who is after the "critical thinking skills of the right".

Then he posts this crapp.

You can''t make comedy up any better than this.

You know it's relatively obvious that when you post in my threads you don't actually care about what I post, you just feel the need to attack me directly. After awhile I gotta tell you it just comes across as noise. It achieves nothing.

That is hysterical coming from you.

First of all: I am not a republican. Just so you understand.

But your approach to bashing republicans in every thread you start is beyond boring and overdone.

That is why just about everyone who posts in your threads (who has an opposite point of view) basically calls you a moron.

Not that you do any better...beyond your stupid OP titles, your responses generally take the form of an attack....I'll reference some in a minute. Post #23 (calling someone a doofus)....Post #27 (calling someone a dweeb)....and the list goes on and on.

Beyond that, YOU are the one openly attacking others over their lack of critical thinking skills and yet you demonstrate very little on your own.

I just posted an example. I'll be happy to entertain anything you want to provide in the way of solid support (which the hack you quoted did not). And yet somehow you present it as gospel truth.

I have to ask. Where is the seriously opened minded critical thinking in that ? It's your M.O.

I really do get the impression you are something like a first year philosophy student who is just getting a taste of Axiology and somehow thinks he has command of it.

Hate to break it to you....but you've got a long way to go.

Address my concerns over your OP and I'll be happy to stay with this on a factual basis.

 

[easyt65]

The OP, who believes $742,000+ PER JOB CREATED is a good deal / 'success', says life is better under Barak Hussein Obama than under Bush....

Evidently he believes arming our enemies, placing terrorists within his administration, and importing terrorists to kill us is a great idea / 'success', too....

At least Bush never defended, made excuses for, or imported terrorists!

Obama said, 'The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.'

No, 'The future must not belong to those who side with the enemies of this country and our allies, who justify and facilitate the assassination of our ambassadors and citizens, and who welcomes our murderers into our midst!'

 

[ninja007]

Republicans Say America Is Doing Terrible - 7 Reasons They Are Wrong!

In February of 2009, right after Obama took office, the uninsured rate was at 16.1%. It was no secret that our health care system was broken. And then came Obamacare. Now, it is true that Obamacare is not perfect….far from it actually. But many of the problems with Obamacare are a direct result of compromises made to appease the Republicans in an effort to make it a bipartisan bill. As we now know, Obamacare is nowhere near the single payer system that Liberals originally wanted. But even with all of the flaws that still need to be addressed, it is definitely better than the broken system that we had before. According to Forbes, for the first time EVER the rate of uninsured Americans is now below 10% (it’s currently at 9.0%).

The Unemployment Rate
According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the unemployment rate was 8.3% in February of 2009. But as you can see in this graph there has been a steady decline under President Obama. Last month the unemployment rate was down to 5.0%.

Beyond the official unemployment rate we have other rates which factor in things like discouraged workers and part time workers. One of those other rates is know as the U6 ratewhich adds on the workers who are working part-time purely for economic reasons. That figure the righties love to quote of nearly 10% is using the U6 numbers. But here’s the thing…even when you use the U6 figures there has been a vast improvement. In February of ’09 the U6 unemployment rate was 15.1%. It is now at 9.8%.

The economy was in the tank when Obama took over.

My mother could have taken over and things would have gotten better.

The American people don't need Bush or Obama...they just need them out of the way.

The economy was in the tank when Obama took over thanks to 2 years of Congress & spending controlled by Democrats, who were 3 seats shy of having a Super Majority! The poor economy Obines cries about inheriting....was inherited from HIS OWN PARTY!

YOU JUST CAN'T FIX 'STUPID' (Democrats)...but it's a good idea to do it cause stupid people shouldn't BREED!

This is so stupid. The recession began 4 months before Obama became president and 6 months into his presidency, the recession ended and we have had JOB GROWTH EVER SINCE. 12 million private jobs. 3 million of the jobs are directly attributed to his stimulus package that reversed the recession.

when will you get it? mean household income down, food stamps up, unemployment up, costs higher, people giving up looking for work higher, blacks worse off in every category....etc etc...

 

[Billy000]

Billy, BOTTOM LINE, when an administration costs tax payers OVER $742,000 to create 1 job (PER JOB) - according to the GAO - THAT is not only a FAIL, but when you take into account the # of self/party-serving pieces of pork (over 7,000) - and what that pork consisted of, that is CRIMINAL FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY!

Nearly $1 trillion & NO money for infrastructure, NO money for the VA, NO money for homeless vets, NO money so a US Ambassador could keep 16 members of his security detail (not even to get the additional security he asked for) to prevent his assassination (...but thank goodness tax payers bailed out millionaire Democrat Feinstein's husband's company out of bankruptcy)!

Nothing else need be said about the PO$ Stimulus bill!

We'll surely you had no problem with the tax cuts in the stimulus? That was half the fundingz