68 years ago today

[Little-Acorn]

68 years ago today, on August 5, 1945, a single B-29 bomber dropped a single uranium bomb on the city of Hiroshima, Japan. 80,000 Japanese people were killed, and no Americans. By the end of 1945, approx. 30,000 more Japanese had died from injuries, starvations, and radiation.

Three days later, on August 8, a plutonium bomb was caried to Kobe, Japan. But the city was hidden by clouds, so the plane turned and flew to the alternate target, Nagasaki, and dropped it there instead. 50,000 people died from the explosion, with 20,000 more dying within a few months.

The bombing help end the war quickly, made an invasion of the Japanese home islands unnecessary, and saved millions of Japanese and American casualties that would have died in such an invasion.

 

[Old Rocks]

Agreed, and also may have had an even more important effect. Stating what the power of the nuclear bomb could do, and actually seeing the results are two very differant things. The rules of all out war changed that day. Every nation could fool itself into thinking, as Germany did, that it could defend it's cities, and take x amount of damage from the planes that did get through. But now it was one bomb, one city. No real defense.

I think those two aspects of the nuclear bombing of Japan prevented WW3. No matter how you cut it, no winners in such a war.

 

[Moonglow]

How many people did the Japanese occupation soldiers kill, rape, torture, mutilate and force to work until they dropped and then were killed over the 35 years of Japanese aggression and domination?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Remember Pearl Harbor. You get what you deserve.

 

[Zona]

Now, they are healthier, better educated and live longer than Americans. Technologically they kick our asses as well.

 

[Moonglow]

But they've been in recession for 20 years.

 

[Unkotare]

Remember Pearl Harbor. You get what you deserve.

So, deliberately killing all those civilians was an act of revenge?

 

[Wildman]

How many people did the Japanese occupation soldiers kill, rape, torture, mutilate and force to work until they dropped and then were killed over the 35 years of Japanese aggression and domination?

far more than the alleged 6 million jews that Hitler was blamed for

 

[Zona]

How many people did the Japanese occupation soldiers kill, rape, torture, mutilate and force to work until they dropped and then were killed over the 35 years of Japanese aggression and domination?

far more than the alleged 6 million jews that Hitler was blamed for

So.......how many was he responsible for putting to death if not at lease six million?

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Remember Pearl Harbor. You get what you deserve.

So, deliberately killing all those civilians was an act of revenge?

Nope. It was ending a war they started and weren't ready to give up on. That is until we forced them to give up.

We didn't start the war but had the balls to finish it. They got what they deserved.

 

[Wildman]

How many people did the Japanese occupation soldiers kill, rape, torture, mutilate and force to work until they dropped and then were killed over the 35 years of Japanese aggression and domination?

far more than the alleged 6 million jews that Hitler was blamed for

So.......how many was he responsible for putting to death if not at lease six million?

is that a question from an ignorant person ?

or

is it a question from a smartass ?

or

is it possible i do not understand the question ?

 

[auditor0007]

Agreed, and also may have had an even more important effect. Stating what the power of the nuclear bomb could do, and actually seeing the results are two very differant things. The rules of all out war changed that day. Every nation could fool itself into thinking, as Germany did, that it could defend it's cities, and take x amount of damage from the planes that did get through. But now it was one bomb, one city. No real defense.

I think those two aspects of the nuclear bombing of Japan prevented WW3. No matter how you cut it, no winners in such a war.

I think Truman also wanted a bit of revenge. Deep inside he was thinking "fuck em'", which I have no problem with. They got what they deserved at the time. Now is a different time.

 

[Unkotare]

Remember Pearl Harbor. You get what you deserve.

So, deliberately killing all those civilians was an act of revenge?

Nope. It was ending a war they started and weren't ready to give up on. That is until we forced them to give up.

We didn't start the war but had the balls to finish it. They got what they deserved.

"They" meaning all those civilians who were killed in the atomic bombings?

 

[Unkotare]

How many people did the Japanese occupation soldiers kill, rape, torture, mutilate and force to work until they dropped and then were killed over the 35 years of Japanese aggression and domination?

far more than the alleged 6 million jews that Hitler was blamed for

You've got the wrong thread. The conspiracy forum is thataway. >

 

[Unkotare]

Remember Pearl Harbor. You get what you deserve.

So, deliberately killing all those civilians was an act of revenge?

Nope.

When you say "Remember Pearl Harbor. You get what you deserve," that's sure what it sounds like.

 

[deltex1]

68 years ago today, on August 5, 1945, a single B-29 bomber dropped a single uranium bomb on the city of Hiroshima, Japan. 80,000 Japanese people were killed, and no Americans. By the end of 1945, approx. 30,000 more Japanese had died from injuries, starvations, and radiation.

Three days later, on August 8, a plutonium bomb was caried to Kobe, Japan. But the city was hidden by clouds, so the plane turned and flew to the alternate target, Nagasaki, and dropped it there instead. 50,000 people died from the explosion, with 20,000 more dying within a few months.

The bombing help end the war quickly, made an invasion of the Japanese home islands unnecessary, and saved millions of Japanese and American casualties that would have died in such an invasion.

A lesson learned and soon forgotten. There are ways to get people's attention when all rational attempts fail.

 

[editec]

It isn't like we didn't know how powerful that bomb would be.

They dropped it because they were sick of the war and just wanted it to end.

Terrible as it was, I do not in any way fault Truman for using the bombs.

Knowing what we know now about nuclear weapons and their long term consequences, of course, using them now would not get the same pass as I'm giving to Truman.

 

[deltex1]

It isn't like we didn't know how powerful that bomb would be.

They dropped it because they were sick of the war and just wanted it to end.

Terrible as it was, I do not in any way fault Truman for using the bombs.

Knowing what we know now about nuclear weapons and their long term consequences, of course, using them now would not get the same pass as I'm giving to Truman.

Are you sick of the WOT and what the gentle approach is costing us? Find the epicenter...warn them...no response...disappear them.

 

[jon_berzerk]

68 years ago today, on august 5, 1945, a single b-29 bomber dropped a single uranium bomb on the city of hiroshima, japan. 80,000 japanese people were killed, and no americans. By the end of 1945, approx. 30,000 more japanese had died from injuries, starvations, and radiation.

Three days later, on august 8, a plutonium bomb was caried to kobe, japan. But the city was hidden by clouds, so the plane turned and flew to the alternate target, nagasaki, and dropped it there instead. 50,000 people died from the explosion, with 20,000 more dying within a few months.

The bombing help end the war quickly, made an invasion of the japanese home islands unnecessary, and saved millions of japanese and american casualties that would have died in such an invasion.

-boom-

 

[theHawk]

There is no one to blame for the deaths of all the "civilians" killed by the atomic bombs except the Japanese leaders that refused to surrender.

Before the first bomb was dropped, the Japanese had been beaten in the Pacific, but their derranged leaders wouldn't except reality. They firmly believed they were a superior race and there was no one they could lose agains America. The US warned Japan, but it refused to surrender. Even after the first bomb was dropped, they still refused to surrender.

And by the way, both sites were major industrial and military sites that fueled Japan's war machine.