61% of migrant households in the U.S. are on welfare. Remove all of them & the U.S. finances would be instantly fixed.

[citygator]

Yes, and as soon as the illegal alien has a child, his family gets all of the above.

I just linked a study that showed non-US born Americans use LESS welfare than US born Americans. You should surrender. I dont think you know what you are talking about.

 

[citygator]

Democrats wont prosecute and invite them to steal benefits to buy their votes. You know the law means nothing to democrats

Thanks shortstack but the adults are talking. Troll elsewhere.

 

[Hafar1014]

Looking at the study further its so bogus it is unbelievable.

The size of immigrant households are 50% larger than non-immigrant. This makes the "household" use of welfare statistic 50% higher in immigrant family households RIGH OFF THE BAT because there are less households to spread the same percent of welfare recipients to. I cant believe you fell for this study.

Democrats use social programs to bribe voters who kick back money to their campaigns. Minn is over 10 billion. They also use fake projects like CA train to nowhere where did the money go. 9 billion fir the homeless nothing spent on them.

 

[Hafar1014]

Thanks shortstack but the adults are talking. Troll elsewhere.

Make me lizard boy

 

[Lisa558]

Looking at the study further its so bogus it is unbelievable.

The size of immigrant households are 50% larger than non-immigrant. This makes the "household" use of welfare statistic 50% higher in immigrant family households RIGH OFF THE BAT because there are less households to spread the same percent of welfare recipients to. I cant believe you fell for this study.

The size of their households is 50% larger?! That’s the problem! They come here and drop kid, after kid, after kid. And because they are semi-literate and unskilled, their kids qualify for welfare at rates much higher than kids of Americans. That is why the majority of illegal head-of-household families are soaking up welfare.

What I can’t believe is that your leftist upside-values has you defending illegals at the expense of good Americans.

Q: Two families are on the waiting list for a subsidized apartment. One family consists of all Americans, and the other consists of an illegal foreigner who had a kid a month after she got here. Do you think it’s OK for the illegal to be given the subsidized apartment while the American family has to continue to struggle without it?

 

[Hafar1014]

The size of their households is 50% larger?! That’s the problem! They come here and drop kid, after kid, after kid. And because they are semi-literate and unskilled, their kids qualify for welfare at rates much higher than kids of Americans. That is why the majority of illegal head-of-household families are soaking up welfare.

What I can’t believe is that your leftist upside-values has you defending illegals at the expense of good Americans.

Q: Two families are on the waiting list for a subsidized apartment. One family consists of all Americans, and the other consists of an illegal foreigner who had a kid a month after she got here. Do you think it’s OK for the illegal to be given the subsidized apartment while the American family to continue to struggle without it?

Democrats are buying votes with our money

 

[citygator]

Make me lizard boy

Lizard man to you, I am a foot taller.

Regardless alligators split off evolutionarily much earlier than lizards. Crocodilians (alligators, crocodiles, caimans, gharials) are actually more closely related to dinosaurs and modern birds than they are to lizards. Let's face it... you are even low information at insulting. LOL.

 

[Lisa558]

I just linked a study that showed non-US born Americans use LESS welfare than US born Americans. You should surrender. I dont think you know what you are talking about.

And you’re playing with statistics. Take out the U.S. born of ILLEGALS. That’s the problem! They come to our country illegally, have kids, and then soak up welfare at rates twice at high as American families.

 

[Lisa558]

Democrats are buying votes with our money

And with only 36% of Americans on welfare, they didn’t have the majority they need to win elections. So they imported semi-literate, unskilled, uneducated foreigners to get the number up.

Democrats are America’s enemy.

 

[citygator]

The size of their households is 50% larger?! That’s the problem! They come here and drop kid, after kid, after kid. And because they are semi-literate and unskilled, their kids qualify for welfare at rates much higher than kids of Americans. That is why the majority of illegal head-of-household families are soaking up welfare.

What I can’t believe is that your leftist upside-values has you defending illegals at the expense of good Americans.

Q: Two families are on the waiting list for a subsidized apartment. One family consists of all Americans, and the other consists of an illegal foreigner who had a kid a month after she got here. Do you think it’s OK for the illegal to be given the subsidized apartment while the American family has to continue to struggle without it?

You havent addressed a single flaw I pointed out about your "study". You just turned to more uninformed insults. There is NOT more welfare going to immigrant Americans. I showed you that. Its indisputable which is why they want you confused with households.

Math is math. If you have the same percent of people on welfare but one household is 50% larger then you will see a 50% higher welfare rate in "households"... even though welfare recipients are the same!!!! Its a trick for the uninformed.

Immigrant households live with extended families more frequently to keep life affordable. They are 60% more likely to have multiple generations in a household which is a factor in household size. The US is trying to get the birth rate up. Non-Immigrants are below replacement levels. Immigrant households are the model here. Again, your prejudice clouds your conclusions.

 

[Couchpotato]

Hear that, Elon?

You realize that Elon could have retired on the money he made prior to emigrating to the US., right? Musk isn't dependent on tax payer largess.

 

[Lisa558]

You havent addressed a single flaw I pointed out about your "study". You just turned to more uninformed insults. There is NOT more welfare going to immigrant Americans. I showed you that. Its indisputable which is why they want you confused with households.

Math is math. If you have the same percent of people on welfare but one household is 50% larger then you will see a 50% higher welfare rate in "households"... even though welfare recipients are the same!!!! Its a trick for the uninformed.

Immigrant households live with extended families more frequently to keep life affordable. They are 60% more likely to have multiple generations in a household which is a factor in household size. The US is trying to get the birth rate up. Non-Immigrants are below replacement levels. Immigrant households are the model here. Again, your prejudice clouds your conclusions.

Most families headed by illegal immigrants are on welfare. Period.

Most families headed by a law-abiding American are self-supporting. Period.

You are twisting yourself into a pretzel to defend illegal immigration, when these illegals are costly and damaging to decent, tax-paying Americans.

Kick the illegals out, get the welfare recipients to take their jobs, and our schools will improve, rents will drop, wages will go up, and we will save $160 billion a year. And that doesn’t include the billions the Somalian scum stole from us!

 

[struth]

Yoh shoukd not immigrant here and need welfare

If they can’t suooort themselves, kick them out

 

[Auld Phart]

Thanks shortstack but the adults are talking. Troll elsewhere.

Thanks shortstack but the adults are talking.

and you keep interrupting them.

In the words of Ralph Kramden




SHADDUP!

 

[Couchpotato]

Much of it to billionaire owned companies in the form of subsidies.

It's wild to be this misinformed given Google.com

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/corporate-welfare-federal-budget-0

"How much does the federal government spend on corporate welfare? This section provides an answer, but measuring corporate welfare is not an exact science. My definition is broad and includes three types of federal support for businesses and industries:

• Direct subsidies. Grants, loans, and other payments to businesses, such as grants to semiconductor companies, loans to lithium mining companies, and payments to farm businesses.
• Indirect industry support. Federal activities that should be funded by businesses, such as the government’s applied (not basic) research spending on energy and other industries.
• Government businesses. Subsidies for government-owned businesses such as Amtrak that should be privatized and run without subsidies.

Corporate welfare in the federal budget is spending that the private sector should fund by itself without subsidies. My tally of this spending for 2024 is $181 billion, as detailed in Table 2. Many agencies in the table provide both direct subsidies and indirect industry support. For example, the Department of Agriculture’s Natural Resources Conservation Service provides advice to farmers on managing their lands and also pays them for investments in their lands."


The US spends about 180 billion a year on corporate subsidies and spends 1.6 trillion on welfare programs.

 

[Hafar1014]

It's wild to be this misinformed given Google.com

https://www.cato.org/policy-analysis/corporate-welfare-federal-budget-0

"How much does the federal government spend on corporate welfare? This section provides an answer, but measuring corporate welfare is not an exact science. My definition is broad and includes three types of federal support for businesses and industries:

• Direct subsidies. Grants, loans, and other payments to businesses, such as grants to semiconductor companies, loans to lithium mining companies, and payments to farm businesses.
• Indirect industry support. Federal activities that should be funded by businesses, such as the government’s applied (not basic) research spending on energy and other industries.
• Government businesses. Subsidies for government-owned businesses such as Amtrak that should be privatized and run without subsidies.

Corporate welfare in the federal budget is spending that the private sector should fund by itself without subsidies. My tally of this spending for 2024 is $181 billion, as detailed in Table 2. Many agencies in the table provide both direct subsidies and indirect industry support. For example, the Department of Agriculture’s Natural Resources Conservation Service provides advice to farmers on managing their lands and also pays them for investments in their lands."


The US spends about 180 billion a year on corporate subsidies and spends 1.6 trillion on welfare programs.

The most corporate welfare is wasted on renewable energy projects that go bankrupt and drive up our energy costs

 

[Couchpotato]

The most corporate welfare is wasted on renewable energy projects that go bankrupt and drive up our energy costs

Ok but that's not the point. We could completely eliminate all corporate welfare regardless of who's getting it, and foreign aid, and most of the other things people (politicians) talk about as the "problem" with our budget and it would barely move the needle. Until we are willing to put entitlement programs and military spending on the table for cuts we will not come close to balancing the budget.

 

[Hafar1014]

Ok but that's not the point. We could completely eliminate all corporate welfare regardless of who's getting it, and foreign aid, and most of the other things people (politicians) talk about as the "problem" with our budget and it would barely move the needle. Until we are willing to put entitlement programs and military spending on the table for cuts we will not come close to balancing the budget.

Social spending is were all the money waste is as well as corruption and fraud

 

[Couchpotato]

Social spending is were all the money waste is as well as corruption and fraud

You mean entitlements? It's a ton of spending for sure (4.18 trillion to be exact) it's why I mentioned it in my post but it's not the only problem.

 

[Hafar1014]

You mean entitlements? It's a ton of spending for sure (4.18 trillion to be exact) it's why I mentioned it in my post but it's not the only problem.

We need more defense spending a space program and massive cuts to social spending and government waste. All green energy subsides must be stopped.