Soggy in NOLA
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But I thought we saved like, 8,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 jobs?
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The unemployment rate for Americans with at least 4 years of college is 4.5%.
So are you stating that a person who does not have a college education, well what should we do with them?
I do not have one and I am working
Seriously what is your point?
Seriously,
forty years ago fifty years ago, whatever, we would have put millions of Americans - with no better than a HS education - to work, in pretty good to very good paying jobs,
in factories, mills, plants, etc., all based around the huge sector of American manufacturing as well as many areas in support of that sector.
Now, we can't. Yes there is manufacturing left, yes there are some good paying jobs there, but as a whole the sector is a mere shadow of itself. The era of ample good paying jobs for Americans of ordinary education is over.
Why did it happen? Because in the global free market, operating on the sacred principles (to some) of the free market, American workers were overpaid. Very simple. Mathematics.
The conservative dream is being fulfilled. The market is winning.
You want to stop seeing everything on your Walmart shelves made in China? Want to see it made in the USA?
You will have to get American workers to work for what Chinese workers work for. Factoring in, of course, various other costs like transportation.
That's our future, unless you have a better plan.
2006...... 136,086 114,113 22,531 684 7,691 14,155
2007...... 137,598 115,380 22,233 724 7,630 13,879
2008...... 136,790 114,281 21,334 767 7,162 13,406
2009...... 130,807 108,252 18,557 694 6,016 11,847
2010...... 129,818 107,337 17,755 705 5,526 11,524
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt
there it is in black and white
not sure where the other are getting there info
This is what a 800 billion dollar slush fund looks like
And where did the jobs go and why.
once you figure that out then you can begin to figure out how to get some jobs back.
Many are gone for good though.
The unemployment rate for Americans with at least 4 years of college is 4.5%.
Really? Would you like to link your facts, or should we just take your word for it?
2006...... 136,086 114,113 22,531 684 7,691 14,155
2007...... 137,598 115,380 22,233 724 7,630 13,879
2008...... 136,790 114,281 21,334 767 7,162 13,406
2009...... 130,807 108,252 18,557 694 6,016 11,847
2010...... 129,818 107,337 17,755 705 5,526 11,524
ftp://ftp.bls.gov/pub/suppl/empsit.ceseeb1.txt
there it is in black and white
not sure where the other are getting there info
This is what a 800 billion dollar slush fund looks like
1/3 of the Stimulus Bill funded tax credits(slush funds)
And where did the jobs go and why.
once you figure that out then you can begin to figure out how to get some jobs back.
Many are gone for good though.
The unemployment rate for Americans with at least 4 years of college is 4.5%.
Really? Would you like to link your facts, or should we just take your word for it?
The administration can do a lot of fuzzy math with "jobs saved". A lot of smoke and mirrors IMO.
So are you stating that a person who does not have a college education, well what should we do with them?
I do not have one and I am working
Seriously what is your point?
Seriously,
forty years ago fifty years ago, whatever, we would have put millions of Americans - with no better than a HS education - to work, in pretty good to very good paying jobs,
in factories, mills, plants, etc., all based around the huge sector of American manufacturing as well as many areas in support of that sector.
Now, we can't. Yes there is manufacturing left, yes there are some good paying jobs there, but as a whole the sector is a mere shadow of itself. The era of ample good paying jobs for Americans of ordinary education is over.
Why did it happen? Because in the global free market, operating on the sacred principles (to some) of the free market, American workers were overpaid. Very simple. Mathematics.
The conservative dream is being fulfilled. The market is winning.
You want to stop seeing everything on your Walmart shelves made in China? Want to see it made in the USA?
You will have to get American workers to work for what Chinese workers work for. Factoring in, of course, various other costs like transportation.
That's our future, unless you have a better plan.
I guess this is what the DNC told you?
that what a corporation pays in tax has nothing to do with it?
And that we went from a 5% UE rate to a 10% UE rate because of 1 dollar towels being built in China? and that the housing bubble has nothing to do with it?
the restraints we have on shale oil/crude oil/nuclear power.fossil fuels etc... has nothing to do with UE rates?
The unemployment rate for Americans with at least 4 years of college is 4.5%.
Really? Would you like to link your facts, or should we just take your word for it?
June '11 it was 4.4%
The administration can do a lot of fuzzy math with "jobs saved". A lot of smoke and mirrors IMO.
Not that hard to figure out.
That Wisconsin school district that everyone was blathering about because the union busting law supposedly allowed them to save some jobs?
One of the reasons THEY cited for the looming job losses in the first place...
...stimulus money was running out. Saved jobs no longer would be saved.
Seriously,
forty years ago fifty years ago, whatever, we would have put millions of Americans - with no better than a HS education - to work, in pretty good to very good paying jobs,
in factories, mills, plants, etc., all based around the huge sector of American manufacturing as well as many areas in support of that sector.
Now, we can't. Yes there is manufacturing left, yes there are some good paying jobs there, but as a whole the sector is a mere shadow of itself. The era of ample good paying jobs for Americans of ordinary education is over.
Why did it happen? Because in the global free market, operating on the sacred principles (to some) of the free market, American workers were overpaid. Very simple. Mathematics.
The conservative dream is being fulfilled. The market is winning.
You want to stop seeing everything on your Walmart shelves made in China? Want to see it made in the USA?
You will have to get American workers to work for what Chinese workers work for. Factoring in, of course, various other costs like transportation.
That's our future, unless you have a better plan.
I guess this is what the DNC told you?
that what a corporation pays in tax has nothing to do with it?
And that we went from a 5% UE rate to a 10% UE rate because of 1 dollar towels being built in China? and that the housing bubble has nothing to do with it?
the restraints we have on shale oil/crude oil/nuclear power.fossil fuels etc... has nothing to do with UE rates?
No, asshole, this is what I have known for 30 years. Wake up.
False advertising. It's far, far higher. Remember this does NOT reflect the self employed.
The administration can do a lot of fuzzy math with "jobs saved". A lot of smoke and mirrors IMO.
Not that hard to figure out.
That Wisconsin school district that everyone was blathering about because the union busting law supposedly allowed them to save some jobs?
One of the reasons THEY cited for the looming job losses in the first place...
...stimulus money was running out. Saved jobs no longer would be saved.
Not quite that simple, NY. When they state "jobs saved", they really don't have a clue. I'm glad you did bring up with your example of government jobs saved.
Breaking News:
Unemployment rate hits 9.2 percent for June as employers added the fewest jobs in nine months
I am sure Obama will be hitting the golf course this weekend.
Not that hard to figure out.
That Wisconsin school district that everyone was blathering about because the union busting law supposedly allowed them to save some jobs?
One of the reasons THEY cited for the looming job losses in the first place...
...stimulus money was running out. Saved jobs no longer would be saved.
Not quite that simple, NY. When they state "jobs saved", they really don't have a clue. I'm glad you did bring up with your example of government jobs saved.
Your typical conservative de-valuation of teachers and education was part of my earlier point when I mentioned that educated people HAVE jobs.
Not quite that simple, NY. When they state "jobs saved", they really don't have a clue. I'm glad you did bring up with your example of government jobs saved.
Your typical conservative de-valuation of teachers and education was part of my earlier point when I mentioned that educated people HAVE jobs.
Your denial to the fact that they don't have a clue and would no way know about jobs saved is very telling about your own partisan hackery, NY.
They have a very obvious methodology for tracking jobs saved.Not quite that simple, NY. When they state "jobs saved", they really don't have a clue. I'm glad you did bring up with your example of government jobs saved.
Your typical conservative de-valuation of teachers and education was part of my earlier point when I mentioned that educated people HAVE jobs.
Your denial to the fact that they don't have a clue and would no way know about jobs saved is very telling about your own partisan hackery, NY.
They have a very obvious methodology for tracking jobs saved.Your typical conservative de-valuation of teachers and education was part of my earlier point when I mentioned that educated people HAVE jobs.
Your denial to the fact that they don't have a clue and would no way know about jobs saved is very telling about your own partisan hackery, NY.