6 Dem congressmen/woman call for INSURRECTION against the trump administration

[Rawley]

The problem is that sedition isn't punishable by death, ask Steward Rhodes.

The problem is that the president claiming a crime was committed prejudices a potential prosecution.

A bigger problem is that saying to the military that they have the right to refuse illegal orders is a statement of the law not sedition.

No, the problem is Senators and Repa from your cult telling the military to ignore orders from the President

That’s fucked. Stop trying to spin it.

 

[Darkwind]

A whole lot of text you quoted can you support that what these senators said qualifies as sedition or treason in any of it?

I've already addressed that specifically.

I have not charged them with sedition nor treason. I HAVE said that they walked right up to the line with their language manipulation.

Could the USAG get an indictment? I'd say no.

But what has happened is yet again, the phony pretense of the left is going to backfire.

I'll give one caveat. Trump is NOT a lawyer so he likely didn't know that sedition doesn't have a death penalty. So, he didn't know and/or mispoke. I won't defend that.

However, he is not advocating that we run right over the Capital Hill, pull them from their offices and string them up.

 

[Rocko]

He is the President of the US. He does not have that luxury.

I’m not defending him, I’m just calling it what it is.

 

[forkup]

I have not charged them with sedition nor treason. I HAVE said that they walked right up to the line with their language manipulation.

This isn't you then?

That is sedition at the very least.

 

[Darkwind]

A judge if he determines that the killing was unlawful. And yes, it's specific. Because you know... blowing a boat out of the water requires quite a bit of planning. I guess Admiral Doe can claim he misplaced a Harpoon, but I don't think it'll stick. So, I'll ask again. What happens to this guy, since you have a problem with senators stating the law because it puts military personnel in legal jeopardy.

A lot of planning? This is the Navy doing what the Navy does best.

However, if Admiral Doe, as you put it, tells the Commander in Chief that his orders are unlawful and refuses, he can be removed from his position pending a court review.

I can tell you that, rarely, as a person who decided to take it upon themselves to be the judge and executioner of a self-imposed judicial order, if a REAL judge disagrees, then career and freedom are both gone.

Know anyone willing to throw those dice?

 

[Darkwind]

This isn't you then?

It is Me. I've not made a charge. I've stated an opinion.

 

[forkup]

It is Me. I've not made a charge. I've stated an opinion.

Talk about semantics. And you said quite a bit more then that they walked right up to the line. You said "sedition at the very least."

It's always funny when people try to claim to didn't say what they said when there's a quote function available.

 

[Blaster]

In the wake of Charlie Kirk, there were calls by the right to end the violent rhetoric under accusations it was fueling hate and violence (which I agree with). I guess the president didn't get that memo.

Trump doubles down and calls for the execution of Democrat lawmakers. More from Trump claims their words are seditious and states they should be put to death.

For the record, sedition is the advocacy of violence against the government. The lawmakers involved were advocating peace by the government. It's kind of literally the opposition of sedition.

It should also be noted that the maximum punishment under the actual sedition statute is 20 years, it does not include death.

Trump Supports Calls To Hang Political Opponents

President Trump is supporting calls to hang opposition lawmakers. Six Democrats in Congress called upon members of the military to disobey illegal orders to murder alleged drug traffickers on the high seas. Trump responded by posting that these...

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So you think sedition is okay. I'm not surprised.

 

[Blaster]

I prefer death by firing squad over hanging. It is more merciful.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

His trolling cause crazies like some here feel to act on his words. Trolling or not he knows exactly what he's doing, well sometimes.

When the left does it, it's violent rhetoric putting lives at risk.

When Trump does it, he's "trolling."

They operate as programmed.

 

[Mac1958]

In the wake of Charlie Kirk, there were calls by the right to end the violent rhetoric under accusations it was fueling hate and violence (which I agree with). I guess the president didn't get that memo.

Trump doubles down and calls for the execution of Democrat lawmakers. More from Trump claims their words are seditious and states they should be put to death.

For the record, sedition is the advocacy of violence against the government. The lawmakers involved were advocating peace by the government. It's kind of literally the opposition of sedition.

It should also be noted that the maximum punishment under the actual sedition statute is 20 years, it does not include death.

Trump Supports Calls To Hang Political Opponents

President Trump is supporting calls to hang opposition lawmakers. Six Democrats in Congress called upon members of the military to disobey illegal orders to murder alleged drug traffickers on the high seas. Trump responded by posting that these...

www.dailykos.com

This is fascism.

The military are instructed that they can disobey unlawful orders.

Trump crosses another line. Will it matter? Very doubtful.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

This is fascism.

The military are instructed that that can disobey unlawful orders.

Trump crosses another line. Will it matter? Very doubtful.

You can tell from this thread, chock full of ad hominem responses, that it doesn't matter to them.

 

[Blaster]

When the left does it, it's violent rhetoric putting lives at risk.

When Trump does it, he's "trolling."

They operate as programmed.

You need to calm down Taz.

 

[Darkwind]

Talk about semantics.

Well, we were discussing Trump, Congress, and the judiciary. Those are the only entities involved with the actual power to charge something. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even the left.

From the start of my entry into this thread, I made it clear that I think they are skirting some serious ethical violations if not laws. I have not stated that anyone in authority should charge them. The sedition and treason, at this point, are implied; not by us, but they them.

They are playing games with the American public, and it's a perilous set of games.

Trump spews too readily, and I'll never deny that. But it wads up the left like nothing has done since Reagan. That tickles Me.

I think that the crew around Trump should insist on curbing his spontaneity by reviewing, at least, the legal basis for any of his rants.

However, lets not lose site of the real problem here. The Democrats thinking that this kind of behavior is even close to acceptable to the American people.

 

[SeaMajor7]

LOCK THEM UP.
20 YEARS.
FAFO BITCHES

 

[Blaster]

This is fascism.

The military are instructed that that can disobey unlawful orders.

Trump has never given an unlawful order. I laugh at your idea of fascism.

 

[Frankenstein]

They also didn't mention simply disobeying orders either. In fact, they specified that the only orders they could disobey were illegal ones. So, to you the same question. What's the problem with that principle?

Sedition calls for hanging their remarks are seditious

 

[forkup]

A lot of planning? This is the Navy doing what the Navy does best.

However, if Admiral Doe, as you put it, tells the Commander in Chief that his orders are unlawful and refuses, he can be removed from his position pending a court review.

I can tell you that, rarely, as a person who decided to take it upon themselves to be the judge and executioner of a self-imposed judicial order, if a REAL judge disagrees, then career and freedom are both gone.

Know anyone willing to throw those dice?

Their career and freedom are just as gone if they are deemed to have committed murder. I also think that the penalty is heftier.

In any case. It's clear you have no problem with them taking that risk.

 

[forkup]

Sedition calls for hanging their remarks are seditious

Feel free to check what the statute actually is. Post 52 brings you right to it. You will find what it requires to charge someone with it and what the penalty is.

Come back to me when you have done so.

 

[Frankenstein]

Feel free to check what the statute actually is. Post 52 brings you right to it. You will find what it requires to charge someone with it and what the penalty is.

Come back to me when you have done so.

Hang em high for calling for the military to disobey orders from the cic