6 Dem congressmen/woman call for INSURRECTION against the trump administration

[Lesh]

Yes.

Absolutely.

I see where you are trying to go with that. But you would need to add more factors to make your hypothetical order illegal. Maybe a more specific scenario, instead of a broad question.

As far as I know, there has not been a declaration of war by the Senate since World War Two. Surely, you are not claiming that every soldier that ever shot anyone in the numerous military conflicts we have had since World War II is guilty of murder?

Ok. Let’s get specific.

The military is deployed at the border

Illegals are seen crossing the border.

They are clearly civilians and clearly unarmed

Orders are given to shoot them

Is that a legal order?

 

[kyzr]

Ok. Let’s get specific.
The military is deployed at the border
Illegals are seen crossing the border.
They are clearly civilians and clearly unarmed
Order are given to shoot them
Is that a legal order?

Not the point of discussion.
The point is for you to show that Trump gave any illegal orders.
If not, then the democrats are trying to interfer with the chain of command.

 

[Seymour Flops]

No one said. They clearly noted "illegal"

So you claim the Democrats were not being political at all? They just randomly decided to make a PSA about legal orders versus illegal orders to help out our troops?

Troll all you want............pretty typical.

So another statement based on a false premise.

Trump never hanged anyone, nor did he ever threaten to hang anyone. But the OP starts a thread demanding that we
defend a false and misleading paraphrase as if Trump had said it.

 

[berg80]

Cops follow illegal orders all the time. Constantly. Why would the military be different?

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Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), service members have a duty to refuse unlawful orders, which are commands that violate the Constitution, U.S. law, or international law. Examples of unlawful orders include those to commit war crimes like harming civilians or mistreating detainees. While the duty to obey lawful orders is paramount, blind obedience is not required, and refusing an unlawful order is a legal obligation.

 

[Hafar1014]

Ok. Let’s get specific.

The military is deployed at the border

Illegals are seen crossing the border.

They are clearly civilians and clearly unarmed

Order are given to shoot them

Is that a legal order?

Prove the order was given. Source Then give an example. Otherwise youre arguing the hypothetical. Yourw nit sepecific at all.

Exclusive | Illegal migrant accused of shooting off-duty CBP officer in NYC was only vetted over Zoom before being set free under Biden admin: sources

Dominican migrant Miguel Francisco Mora Nunez, 21, waltzed across the border into Arizona in April 2023, when federal agents were hit with a wave of more than 183,000.

nypost.com

 

[Hafar1014]

Not the point of discussion.
The point is for you to show that Trump gave any illegal orders.
If not, then the democrats are trying to interfer with the chain of command.

Thats what I asked and he cant do it but we can easily find illegals shooting cops

 

[TNHarley]

AI Overview

Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), service members have a duty to refuse unlawful orders, which are commands that violate the Constitution, U.S. law, or international law. Examples of unlawful orders include those to commit war crimes like harming civilians or mistreating detainees. While the duty to obey lawful orders is paramount, blind obedience is not required, and refusing an unlawful order is a legal obligation.

That means nothing.

 

[pknopp]

So you claim the Democrats were not being political at all?

Spin all you want. My first post noted they were grandstanding. Sheesh.

They just randomly decided to make a PSA about legal orders versus illegal orders to help out our troops?


So another statement based on a false premise.

Trump never hanged anyone, nor did he ever threaten to hang anyone. But the OP starts a thread demanding that we
defend a false and misleading paraphrase as if Trump had said it.

Read before posting please.

 

[Lesh]

Prove the order was given. Source Then give an example. Otherwise youre arguing the hypothetical. Yourw nit sepecific at all.

Exclusive | Illegal migrant accused of shooting off-duty CBP officer in NYC was only vetted over Zoom before being set free under Biden admin: sources

Dominican migrant Miguel Francisco Mora Nunez, 21, waltzed across the border into Arizona in April 2023, when federal agents were hit with a wave of more than 183,000.

nypost.com

Prove that a HYPOTHETICAL order was given?

Shut up stupid

Adults are talking

 

[berg80]

They just randomly decided to make a PSA about legal orders versus illegal orders to help out our troops?

Of course not. It was in response to the extra judicial killings in the Caribbean and the illegal occupation by US troops of selected US cities. It was probably directed at ICE agents as well.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Enlistment? Show me where on your enlistment that it requires and authorizes you as a constitutional scholar able to question the legality of every order that comes your way?

******* moron.

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I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962).

 

[berg80]

Biden and Mayorkas gave illegal orders to the CBP to open the borders in violation of US LAW

No matter how many times you repeat that it will never be true.

 

[Billiejeens]

Prove that a HYPOTHETICAL order was given?

Shut up stupid

Adults are talking

Where?
It's not you.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Biden and Mayorkas gave illegal orders to the CBP to open the borders in violation of US LAW, where were the democrats then?

Exclusive | Homeland Security boss Alejandro Mayorkas ‘intentionally’ opened southern border: ex-Biden Border Patrol chief

Rodney Scott, who led the agency until August 2021, testified earlier this year that Mayorkas’ tenure — contrary to his public statements — has not been about “a policy debate,” a…

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https://www.npr.org/2025/01/15/g-s1-42685/alejandro-mayorkas-border-immigration-asylum-security

Alejandro Mayorkas on border: ‘We don’t bear responsibility for a broken system’

House Republicans are attempting to impeach the Department of Homeland Security chief, saying he has violated his oath of office by contributing to a crisis along the southern border.

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Wrong thread buddy.

 

[Lesh]

Prove the order was given. Source Then give an example. Otherwise youre arguing the hypothetical. Yourw nit sepecific at all.

Exclusive | Illegal migrant accused of shooting off-duty CBP officer in NYC was only vetted over Zoom before being set free under Biden admin: sources

Dominican migrant Miguel Francisco Mora Nunez, 21, waltzed across the border into Arizona in April 2023, when federal agents were hit with a wave of more than 183,000.

nypost.com

Of COURSE I’m arguing a hypothetical ya dope.

We’re trying to determine what is and is not a legal order

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Where?
If's not you.

I think Lesh just wants to know if the 6 Democrats deserve to die.

 

[Crepitus]

Weird that Republicans said "the military must obey illegal orders."

Can you post the video of them saying that?

If that is not what they are saying then what is tRump foaming at the mouth about?

 

[ColonelAngus]

Democrats are siding with Narcoterrorists.

Of course they are.

 

[berg80]

That means nothing.

Are you a nihilist?

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

If that is not what they are saying then what is tRump foaming at the mouth about?

Seymour hasn’t seen the video yet. He saw Trump angry and got angry himself because Trump was angry.