6 Dem congressmen/woman call for INSURRECTION against the trump administration

[Billiejeens]

In additional posts, the president rightly noted that sedition is punishable by death. This fact seemed to jolt Democrats out of their stupor and back to reality.

Case in point: On Thursday, Democrat Rep. Jason Crow began walking back what he’d said in the video posted to social media.

“To be clear, we are not calling on folks right now to debate, to disobey any type of unlawful order, right?” he claimed while on CNN.

So what were he and his colleagues doing? Allegedly just “having a conversation.”

“There is very real and deep concern about what this president has threatened to do over and over again,” Crow said. “There are three more years left of this administration.”

“If we are not talking about this and having a conversation about it and demystifying this conversation, we are not fulfilling our duty. We are reminding people that have taken the oath what that oath requires of them to do,” he added.

 

[Winco]

OP.

It is illegal to steal elections. Do not support stealing elections.

Team trump did it twice.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Why can't you phrase it accurately? It was a reminder to military personnel they can refuse to follow an illegal order. Full stop.

So, just a random PSA for military people with no political motive?

What's next? A video by Democrats reminding soldiers not to forget the light coat of oil?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Citation? What did Biden callon his followers to do, precisely?

Trump toadies revert to whining about Biden whenever their object of veneration throws one of his tantrums and spews his hateful rage.

The undeniable truth is that, for those who swear an oath to the Constitution, illegal orders should not be followed, and anyone who points out that moral certitude should not be executed.

you have yet to tell us what illegal orders are being given.

 

[Zincwarrior]

you have yet to tell us what illegal orders are being given.

Then why is Orange Jesus calling for their murder?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Yes, there are plenty of pop psychology studies that explain Trump worshippers' disorder.

Pretending most Americans are psychologically impaired because they disapprove of the blowhard may work for a cult that can't handle reality, but the simple moral principle they try to evade is that one should not obey illegal orders, and those who state that precept should not be executed.

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and yet you cannot identify any illegal orders given by this administration, go figure.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Then why is Orange Jesus calling for their murder?

list the illegal order or shut up.

 

[Billiejeens]

Team trump did it twice.

sofa king stupid right there ^^^^^^

 

[pknopp]

sofa king stupid right there ^^^^^^

No need to drag Vance into this.

 

[Billiejeens]

No need to drag Vance into this.

also here ^^^^^^

 

[midcan5]

The irony here is Trump is a felon, a convicted rapist, a draft dodger, habitual liar, and yet the apologies for his stupidity etc etc etc continues. Some would like the devil it seems should the devil exist. That is so long as the devil hated their foes.

 

[Billiejeens]

So, just a random PSA for military people with no political motive?

What's next? A video by Democrats reminding soldiers not to forget the light coat of oil?

It's a continuation of the last 10 years where 2 branches of government have completely disregarded the separation of powers because they don't approve of democracy or The Constitution.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Good. That's the point. Maybe the next time a soldier is told to target a boat in the Caribbean with a drone he or she will ask themselves, "Wait, is this legal?"

And then what?

What law will inform his decision?

Quote the law that forbids him from targeting a boat in the Caribbean with a drone. If he doesn't know one should he fire?

Describe how it will play out if he refuses. Will Democrats be their at his court martial?

 

[mudwhistle]

Yes, there are plenty of pop psychology studies that explain Trump worshippers' disorder.

Pretending most Americans are psychologically impaired because they disapprove of the blowhard may work for a cult that can't handle reality, but the simple moral principle they try to evade is that one should not obey illegal orders, and those who state that precept should not be executed.

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Only problem with that is the simple fact that they are encouraging members of the military to commit acts against their chain of command, or refuse to follow orders which they politically think are illegal.
This is an overt attempt to cause the military to join the Democrat's illegal resistance against Trump.
This is extremely dangerous.......and rest assured.....there will be a small number of idiots who try to join.

 

[mudwhistle]

list the illegal order or shut up.

That's the problem. Democrats refuse to state what illegal orders they were talking about.

As with the pedophile accusations.....this is just dishonest Democrats attempting to imply something that doesn't exist.

 

[Seymour Flops]

I posted three examples where it should have (should) happen.

One could point to the entire Iraq War at that.

I missed the three examples.

So when and how exactly should an American serviceman have refused orders regarding the Iraq war?

 

[Mac-7]

After six congressmen and women posted a video urging the military not to follow illegal orders, Donald Trump said they deserve to die.

A debate enaued in which Republicans officials and Republicans in message boards claim illegal orders must be followed, while Democrats say they must not be followed.


Conclusion: in this is debate, Democrats are correct. Donald Trump and Republicans are incorrect. Thanks.


Citation

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title10-section892&num=0&edition=prelim

No one has said soldiers must obey illegal orders

 

[MarcATL]

Oh thank you for the correction. Republicans want the military members to obey only lawful orders as Democrats set in their video. Can you confirm that this is the correction that I must make to my thread?

Let me know so I can issue a correction and while we’re added, tell me why Democrats deserve to die if Trump agrees with them.

You flop again, Seymour
.

 

[Hellokitty]

Why can't you phrase it accurately? It was a reminder to military personnel they can refuse to follow an illegal order. Full stop.

In the clip, there's confusion on that as well with 2 dems saying "you can" and 1 saying "you must"...so which is it?

 

[pknopp]

I missed the three examples.

So when and how exactly should an American serviceman have refused orders regarding the Iraq war?

As I noted........should have stopped and asked if this was really a good idea. That despite search after search after search nothing was found so why should we risk our lives over something no one can even prove is a risk.

Politicians somehow seem to be able to convince people of things despite any proof at all.