6 Dem congressmen/woman call for INSURRECTION against the trump administration

[Hafar1014]

If you are given an order to shoot someone and we are not at war and they are not an immediate threat…is that a legal order?

Without context your question cant be answered.
The law defines use of deadly force. When serious bodily injury or death is imminent deadly force is legal for anyone in self defense.
We dont have to be at war. You really havent thought this through.
Castle doctrine. Break into my home car hotel or any place I have legal right to be in allows me use of deadly force.

No such order that you mention has been given. Prove it

 

[TNHarley]

Cops follow illegal orders all the time. Constantly. Why would the military be different?

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

All of them except Bidens orders which were all forged. You prove whats illegal

Your side is the side that would have to prove something since you’re saying they deserve death. I don’t have to prove anything how did they deserve death?

 

[Seymour Flops]

They don't have to. They, as already pointed out, have this taught to them early on. They know this so the Democrats are grandstanding here.

Yes, they are taught that if they break the kaw, "I was following orders" is not a valid defense. They are absolutely not taught that if the president's political opposition disagrees with an order, they are free to disobey it.

on the other hand, you can't hang people for grandstanding.

Both sides suck.

What?!?! President Trump hung someone for grandstanding?!?!

Good Gawd!

Post that video quick!

 

[WorldWatcher]

The real center of the debate is what is legal and what is not. If each individual military personnel is left to decide on their own what they consider legal or not, and thus which orders to follow or not, we will have a real mess on our hands. Politics will undoubtedly come into play into what they decide is “legal”, which is exactly the approach Democrats are taking now.

Military members are NOT left to their own as to what are legal and illegal orders.

They make a choice, then become subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

They can be arrested and submitted to a Courts Martial. The prosecution makes it's case, the defense makes their case, and then the Military Judge makes a ruling (assuming a motion to dismiss). If the Military Judge determines there is a question, then a military jury is empaneled and the case goes to trial. Then it is the military jury making the call on guilt or innocense.

WW

 

[Hafar1014]

Cops follow illegal orders all the time. Constantly. Why would the military be different?

Prove it. Show us the orders
Illegals dont follow legal orders to get the hell out of my country

 

[struth]

Yes, there are plenty of pop psychology studies that explain Trump worshippers' disorder.

Pretending most Americans are psychologically impaired because they disapprove of the blowhard may work for a cult that can't handle reality, but the simple moral principle they try to evade is that one should not obey illegal orders, and those who state that precept should not be executed.

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I'll accept at 42.7 approval rating in this climate.

Way better then the historically low,lowest ever recorded by CNBC, of the Dem party: - check 3m mark

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Cops follow illegal orders all the time. Constantly. Why would the military be different?

Seymour Flop, a respectable conservative in this board, made it clear that Republicans do not think illegal orders must be followed.

Stop contradicting Seymour Flop.

 

[Conservative from Georgia]

Illegal order = Anything Democrats do not like.

Without context your question cant be answered.
The law defines use of deadly force. When serious bodily injury or death is imminent deadly force is legal for anyone in self defense.
We dont have to be at war. You really havent thought this through.
Castle doctrine. Break into my home car hotel or any place I have legal right to be in allows me use of deadly force.

No such order that you mention has been given. Prove it

Democrats in the video didn’t say such a message board hypothetical happened.

 

[kyzr]

Biden and Mayorkas gave illegal orders to the CBP to open the borders in violation of US LAW, where were the democrats then?

Exclusive | Homeland Security boss Alejandro Mayorkas ‘intentionally’ opened southern border: ex-Biden Border Patrol chief

Rodney Scott, who led the agency until August 2021, testified earlier this year that Mayorkas’ tenure — contrary to his public statements — has not been about “a policy debate,” a…

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https://www.npr.org/2025/01/15/g-s1-42685/alejandro-mayorkas-border-immigration-asylum-security

Alejandro Mayorkas on border: ‘We don’t bear responsibility for a broken system’

House Republicans are attempting to impeach the Department of Homeland Security chief, saying he has violated his oath of office by contributing to a crisis along the southern border.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[TNHarley]

Prove it. Show us the orders

There are unconstitutional ordinances, city laws and state laws everywhere. And they are enforced by who?

 

[22lcidw]

They don't have to. They, as already pointed out, have this taught to them early on. They know this so the Democrats are grandstanding here.

on the other hand, you can't hang people for grandstanding.

Both sides suck.

Until the Progs come to power again.

Democrats in the video didn’t say such a message board hypothetical happened.

When the worse economically happens, many people will die in the beginning who are not wary.

 

[Lesh]

Without context your question cant be answered.
The law defines use of deadly force. When serious bodily injury or death is imminent deadly force is legal for anyone in self defense.
We dont have to be at war. You really havent thought this through.
Castle doctrine. Break into my home car hotel or any place I have legal right to be in allows me use of deadly force.

No such order that you mention has been given. Prove it

I was pretty straightforward. I gave you context. I assumed you understood we are talking about the military because… ya know… we are talking about the military.

So yes or no?

Not at war and not an immediate threat.

Is it a legal order or not?

 

[Seymour Flops]

If you are given an order to shoot someone and we are not at war and they are not an immediate threat…is that a legal order?

Yes.

Absolutely.

I see where you are trying to go with that. But you would need to add more factors to make your hypothetical order illegal. Maybe a more specific scenario, instead of a broad question.

As far as I know, there has not been a declaration of war by the Senate since World War Two. Surely, you are not claiming that every soldier that ever shot anyone in the numerous military conflicts we have had since World War II is guilty of murder?

 

[pknopp]

Yes, they are taught that if they break the kaw, "I was following orders" is not a valid defense. They are absolutely not taught that if the president's political opposition disagrees with an order, they are free to disobey it.

No one said. They clearly noted "illegal"

What?!?! President Trump hung someone for grandstanding?!?!

Good Gawd!

Post that video quick!

Troll all you want............pretty typical.

 

[kyzr]

Military members are NOT left to their own as to what are legal and illegal orders.

They make a choice, then become subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

They can be arrested and submitted to a Courts Martial. The prosecution makes it's case, the defense makes their case, and then the Military Judge makes a ruling (assuming a motion to dismiss). If the Military Judge determines there is a question, then a military jury is empaneled and the case goes to trial. Then it is the military jury making the call on guilt or innocence. WW

The question is "has Trump given ANY illegal orders to the US military?"

If not, then the democrats are trying to undermine the chain of command. Is that sedition??

 

[pknopp]

Until the Progs come to power again.

No, both sides will still suck.

When the worse economically happens, many people will die in the beginning who are not wary.

Lol

 

[ColonelAngus]

It is literally in the military code.

Punishment for sedition INCLUDES UP TO DEATH.

Just like murder in many states.

Not everyone who commits murder gets executed.

This is today’s TDS OUTBURST for lefty *****.

The shutdown did not work. The Epstein files did not work.

ON TO THE NEXT PSYCHOTIC FREAK OUT.

 

[Hafar1014]

I was pretty straightforward. I gave you context. I assumed you understood we are talking about the military because… ya know… we are talking about the military.

So yes or no?

Not at war and not an immediate threat.

Is it a legal order or not?

Prove the order was given. Your context was inadequate.
Democrats will do anything to keep illegals from being deported even when it threatens human life.
Illegals can and are often violent and a threat. Protestors are also violent. There is no blanket order. Every case is separate

 

[Hafar1014]

I was pretty straightforward. I gave you context. I assumed you understood we are talking about the military because… ya know… we are talking about the military.

So yes or no?

Not at war and not an immediate threat.

Is it a legal order or not?

Prove the order was given in the first place. Your argument is hypothetical.