6 Dem congressmen/woman call for INSURRECTION against the trump administration

[buttercup]

You can cite a fact directly, but deliberately misconstrue its context. It happens all the time, buttercup. It's all about how you frame cited facts. Context, narrative, talking points. In a nutshell, it's how you spin it.

It doesn't take me 5 seconds to know, because it took me 15 years to understand the practice. The mendaciousness it takes for a rag like that to blow it out of context is mind-blowing. The title speaks for itself.

I agree, but I don't care what "dailykos" has to say about anything. I didn't even click on that link. His post alone yet again confirmed what I already thought about him. As usual, he's riling people up (which could easily lead to some crackpots taking matters into their own hands), perpetuating the false D / R paradigm ... and it sure as hell looks like he's pushing for what the PTSB want - more civil unrest, more violence, which as I've said many times before gives them a pretext to roll out their authoritarian agendas. At least that was my first thought on it.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The UCMJ, and Federal Statute, if not the Courts.

Which is why Private Gomer is advised to get a legal opinion before he takes the word of democrats.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I agree, but I don't care what "dailykos" has to say about anything. I didn't even click on that link. His post alone yet again confirmed what I already thought about him. As usual, he's riling people up (which could easily lead to some crackpots taking matters into their own hands), perpetuating the false D / R paradigm ... and it sure as hell looks like he's pushing for what the PTSB want - more civil unrest, more violence, which as I've said many times before gives them a pretext to roll out their authoritarian agendas. At least that was my first thought on it.

Hrrhmm...

 

[TemplarKormac]

Your father suggested orders should be obeyed even when they are unlawful?

No. He's quite well aware of what these elected officials said, and he still has buddies still serving. He knows what they know. And so far nothing Trump has ordered the military to do has violated the oaths they took, his or his buddies still in service. And so, from what he is telling me, this borders on Sedition.

These elected officials' pleas to "disobey illegal orders" is stained by their liberal biases. Since any order they disagree with could be construed as 'illegal', they are basically telling our servicemembers to use their own suddenly acquired jurisprudence in interpreting the legality of their orders. That is borderline sedition, and encouraging our servicemembers to disobey otherwise lawful orders.

Yeah, he has friends in high (and low) places.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

It goes without saying that service members should not carry out unlawful orders and most or all service members already know this. And every one of the Congresspersons involved in the video know that every service member knows not to carry out unlawful orders so the obvious question is: Why did they say it?

 

[toobfreak]

Pam Bondi just announced that they found out Biden was funding human-trafficking operations.

Well of course he was, that is what all this stuff is about! All the illegal immigration, the sanctuary cities, the attacks against ICE, and much much more is all targeted at trying to stop Trump from exposing their big cash cow: human smuggling and drugs. This is the Left's true value in 3rd World people. I believe this is far bigger than most believe and could end up including the Clintons. And when they use the words "human smuggling," understand that what is really being exposed is /slavery/.

Now that Bondi has gone public with this, I will expect to see some big names get prosecuted and while I know most of them will be democrats, don't be too surprised if you don't even see a republican name or two in there as well. It's possible.

Hoo boy, the demoshits sure have cocked the shotgun right in their own faces yet again! TDS, like moths to the flame.

So now, the real question is this: was Joe Biden that corrupt to be involved in this centrally as the mack daddy or was he simply so far out of it to have no freeking idea what was really going on around him and how much of it involved Kamala? Or was she a total fruit loop, too? What is Nancy Pelosi's role in all of this? Are any of these people personally culpable, or are they simply that billion-dollar investment some hostile foreign country bought as a means of ingress into the US government and policy?

The connection between Hollywood in LA and the Democrat Party is well establish, and Hollywood's appetite for children and young girls is famous, so I'm not sure why anyone would be too surprised that democrats are all wrapped up in children and other human trafficking and drugs? This is the big surprise that is really not a surprise to anyone.

I mean, democrat's appetite and abuse of women, children and drugs is legendary to the point of their bragging about it. I hope no one has forgotten that we just came from four years of Joe Biden and his coke-snorting son, baggie found at the White House, naked people running around, videos of crack smoking on his laptop, and the entire family's propensity for naked swimming, squeezing and groping little children, other people's wives, their brother's wife, you name it.

 

[forkup]

Again: there was no statement about threatening the 6 Democrap vermin.

Why lie so much? We can all read and see your blatant, glaring dishonesty.

So when Trump refered to seditious behavior deserving death, he was not talking about the people he referred to in a video he accused of seditious behavior 2 truths earlier? That's your story?

Congratulations, that's some next level gaslighting.

So when I asked how far your willing to go to polish turds for Trump, the answer is. "Well I'm willing to not understand implied meaning a moderately bright toddler gets.

Impressive.

 

[Mac1958]

I think history will judge not just Trump but this SCOTUS harshly.

They have paved the way for a US president to give orders that have such a thin veneer of legitimacy that US military personnel has legal exposure sufficiently grave to make this clarification that they can indeed refuse unlawful orders relevant. Not just that, the fact that this is even a point of contention, and more than that an act of sedition to some, is mind-blowing.

Not to, long ago these same people were saying that it was ridiculous to suggest that Trump would simply order people killed without oversight, yet here we are.

Yeah. Look to history. It's never about one guy. It CAN'T be.

It's about those who enable him.

 

[Mac1958]

You would think with so many of these guys in thread that have said they were in the military (which I now doubt) they would have remembered being told that in boot camp. I was.

Yeah. I went several years before I would call this a cult. But I've never seen anything like this. Except in history books.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Ok, I’ll meet libs halfway

No hanging just 20 years in prison

Next issue

Trump wont make it another 20 years.

 

[BackAgain]

So when Trump refered to seditious behavior deserving death, he was not talking about the people he referred to in a video he accused of seditious behavior 2 truths earlier? That's your story?

Congratulations, that's some next level gaslighting.

So when I asked how far your willing to go to polish turds for Trump, the answer is. "Well I'm willing to not understand implied meaning a moderately bright toddler gets.

Impressive.

It isn’t gaslighting at all. I’m sure he had Sen. Kelly etc in mind. But it still wasn’t a threat of anything. He was stating (incorrectly) that sedition can carry a sentence of up to the death penalty. It doesn’t.

But even if it did, it still would not qualify as a threat.

And you know it.

 

[Mac-7]

Trump wont make it another 20 years.

Its democrat lawmakers who are flirting with sedation not trump

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I need to repeat the question. Who makes the decision designating a presidential order as illegal?

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And what actual order has President Trump made that's illegal?

Why won't they answer this?

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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Which would not happen, if an order is clearly illegal.

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What order is illegal?






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[struth]

What officeholders other than Trump are calling for people to be hanged for advocating fidelity to the Constitution?

Xiden called on his followers to put Trump in the bullseye and well two of them did…

Where did Trump say anyone should be hung for advocating fidelity to the constitution?

 

[forkup]

It isn’t gaslighting at all. I’m sure he had Sen. Kelly etc in mind. But it still wasn’t a threat of anything. He was stating (incorrectly) that sedition can carry a sentence of up to the death penalty. It doesn’t.

But even if it did, it still would not qualify as a threat.

And you know it.

And again, I never claimed he said threat but deserved, the exact language he used.So yes you are gaslighting. You're just not getting away with it.

I never really got what people get out of it. I guess signaling to like minded people that you are willing to debase yourself to irritate the perceived enemy has some value to some.

But in my case the jokes on them, because I enjoy it when people are willing to pretend they're idiots and/or liars to signal loyalty.

 

[struth]

Who decides whether or not the order is unlawful?

The courts decide what is the law

 

[struth]

My position is that threatening with death people who advocate that illegal orders not be followed - in compliance with the Constitution - is wrong.

If you approve of that sort of behavior, we differ,

A handful of Dems in Congress don’t get to decide what orders are lawful or not.

Reminding them that advocating for ignoring lawful orders is sedition and a crime is actually very nice

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

That would be the responsibility of the General upon whom the POTUS gave the order to. Once the Commander accepts orders from the POTUS, it is the troop's responsibility to carry them out.

If every soldier in every branch of service questioned, or stopped to question every order, we'd have no military, which is clearly the intent of our enemies and the Left.

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This whole subject brings to mind a man I once met, democrat SJW who served in the Army, in the Middle East.

He was given an order to shoot a child who was laying mines. He refused to do so. He was sent to Leavenworth and dishonorably discharged, could not get a job, ended up homeless, addicted, and committed suicide.

Do you think these noble public servants who advise military members to refuse to follow "illegal" orders give a rat's ass about the useful leftist idiots who are listening to them and going to go out and determine what order is illegal, disobey it and thereby destroy themselves?

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[SweetTea]

That should be amended to say "disobey legal orders." Big difference between legal and illegal.

Maybe we can refer to them as undocumented orders. That should make everything ok with you guys. If the soldier lives in a sanctuary state, maybe they can be held to a different standard and must follow undocumented orders. Democrats could at least be consistently looney.