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53% of Democrats Hold a Favorable View of Socialism

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All Societies are a mix of Capitalism and Socialism
 

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For years they've denied they are a pro-socialist party. Kind of hard to do that now when that view makes up the majority, isn't it?

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Every country in the world is a combination of socialism, capitalism. Everyone of us take advantage of socialist institutions, schools, infrastructure, military, social security, Medicare, fire departments, police. Every government agency that serves us is a form of socialism.
We have a capitalist economy that is not totally a free economy. In fact Trump wanted to close our economy substantially. That is what primary socialist countries have. A closed economy.

You people are absolute dumbasses. I give Trump credit for identifying a huge group of dumb people he could con to get him the most powerful job in the world.
 

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For years they've denied they are a pro-socialist party. Kind of hard to do that now when that view makes up the majority, isn't it?

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Interesting. Meanwhile entire generations in the U.S. are finding it more and more impossible to afford homes and families, while at the same time oligarchs and the ruling class rake in record profits. It's almost enough to... cause people to entertain an interest in socialism. Hmm. Capitalism, IMO, is the better option, but not if they don't care when the pitchforks start coming out.
 

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Interesting. Meanwhile entire generations in the U.S. are finding it more and more impossible to afford homes and families, while at the same time oligarchs and the ruling class rake in record profits. It's almost enough to... cause people to entertain an interest in socialism. Hmm. Capitalism, IMO, is the better option, but not if they don't care when the pitchforks start coming out.
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For years they've denied they are a pro-socialist party. Kind of hard to do that now when that view makes up the majority, isn't it?

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What is socialism?

You have socialism which is the government controlling the means of production.
You have socialism which is like nationalized healthcare.

Which one do people mean?
Probably they mean both. Probably they aren't even sure what they mean.
Most people have no idea what socialism is.
 

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In SOCIALISM, there is no private property. The Sovereign owns all property, all factories, all farms, all hospitals, all schools and universities, all residential housing, etc. The individual owns NOTHING, except his clothing, trinkets, and other personal property.

Democrats, I suspect, long for the delusion they have of Swedish or Danish, or Norwegian "socialism" where everyone is prosperous, and the Government protects everyone from birth to death with "free" healthcare, guaranteed minimum wages, generous pensions, free education through university, and so on.

If you want an interesting discussion, try telling a Swede that his country is "socialist," then stand back, while he spends the next half hour telling you what a nitwit you are for believing that.

But I have no doubt that THAT is what Democrats see when they are asked if they favor "socialism." With all due respect, it is the choice for losers, which is why it is so dear to Democrats.
 

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In SOCIALISM, there is no private property. The Sovereign owns all property, all factories, all farms, all hospitals, all schools and universities, all residential housing, etc. The individual owns NOTHING, except his clothing, trinkets, and other personal property.

Democrats, I suspect, long for the delusion they have of Swedish or Danish, or Norwegian "socialism" where everyone is prosperous, and the Government protects everyone from birth to death with "free" healthcare, guaranteed minimum wages, generous pensions, free education through university, and so on.

If you want an interesting discussion, try telling a Swede that his country is "socialist," then stand back, while he spends the next half hour telling you what a nitwit you are for believing that.

But I have no doubt that THAT is what Democrats see when they are asked if they favor "socialism." With all due respect, it is the choice for losers, which is why it is so dear to Democrats.

Duh, there are various forms and degrees of socialism. It ain't one-size-fits-all. Educate yourself...
 

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In SOCIALISM, there is no private property. The Sovereign owns all property, all factories, all farms, all hospitals, all schools and universities, all residential housing, etc. The individual owns NOTHING, except his clothing, trinkets, and other personal property.

Democrats, I suspect, long for the delusion they have of Swedish or Danish, or Norwegian "socialism" where everyone is prosperous, and the Government protects everyone from birth to death with "free" healthcare, guaranteed minimum wages, generous pensions, free education through university, and so on.

If you want an interesting discussion, try telling a Swede that his country is "socialist," then stand back, while he spends the next half hour telling you what a nitwit you are for believing that.

But I have no doubt that THAT is what Democrats see when they are asked if they favor "socialism." With all due respect, it is the choice for losers, which is why it is so dear to Democrats.
That is not what socialism is... That's communism...

In truth many US citizens doesn't really understand what socialist programs are. They are when the taxpayer is paying for something that benefits the community or even another individual. Sweden have many socialist program while being generally a social democracy (not a democratic socialist). Another name for Social Democracy is Regulated Capitalism. But European Leaders are perfectly happy to say they believe in socialism as the people know effectively that means you believe in paying taxes for services that society can benefit from.
That is Infrastructure(Roads, Bridges,....), Education, Military, Policing, Healthcare...... To say you want no socialism is to say you don't want these services... They don't even want Government regulating them.

The US (especially the right) paints socialism as some huge authoritarian over lord when it is something they deal with every day. They are bred to hate it, it is the enemy... Then we explain that the public road in front of your house is the result of socialism they get angry... They like roads and how can something they have been taught to hate. BTW, Communist China has the most toll roads in the world...

Socialism and Capitalism is a balance... Anyone that says they want to get rid of one or the other should be ignored IMHO...
 

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99% of the country holds a pro view whether they admit it or not.
 

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What is socialism?

You have socialism which is the government controlling the means of production.
You have socialism which is like nationalized healthcare.

Which one do people mean?
Probably they mean both. Probably they aren't even sure what they mean.
Most people have no idea what socialism is.
Yup.

This poll is ridiculous - one of the worst I've ever seen.
 

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That is not what socialism is... That's communism...

In truth many US citizens doesn't really understand what socialist programs are. They are when the taxpayer is paying for something that benefits the community or even another individual. Sweden have many socialist program while being generally a social democracy (not a democratic socialist). Another name for Social Democracy is Regulated Capitalism. But European Leaders are perfectly happy to say they believe in socialism as the people know effectively that means you believe in paying taxes for services that society can benefit from.
That is Infrastructure(Roads, Bridges,....), Education, Military, Policing, Healthcare...... To say you want no socialism is to say you don't want these services... They don't even want Government regulating them.

The US (especially the right) paints socialism as some huge authoritarian over lord when it is something they deal with every day. They are bred to hate it, it is the enemy... Then we explain that the public road in front of your house is the result of socialism they get angry... They like roads and how can something they have been taught to hate. BTW, Communist China has the most toll roads in the world...

Socialism and Capitalism is a balance... Anyone that says they want to get rid of one or the other should be ignored IMHO...
^ Thread win.
 

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