50 Years After Kent State -- America Needs More Kent States

[francoHFW]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL

From Kent State to Trump: 50 years later, the same divides plague America

The roots of today's polarization were planted then — as were the destructive neoliberal policies that followed

www.salon.com

"Students on the fairly conservative Kent State campus began protesting peacefully on May 1, but later that night young people frequenting the town's bars began to disrupt traffic and eventually, amidst a police crackdown, smashed store windows. Tensions grew the next day, and that night the ROTC building on campus was burned. Police and National Guard troops drove students into their dorms --- Although ordered to disperse, and later tear gassed, most students, believing their campus had been invaded, remained. Few if any imagined the Guards' rifles were locked and loaded, as they were. Within 30 minutes of the noontime start, a line of Guardsmen suddenly turned to face the students, dropped to their knees, and opened fire."

In addition to students protesting the Cambodian invasion at Kent State -- just nine days later, 2 students were killed and 10 others were wounded when police opened fire at a women's dormitory on the campus of historically black college, Jackson State University...in both instances, there were Antifa/BLM like protesters, defying police orders, smashing windows and rioting -- and police along with militia stood up against these communist socialist insurrections and defended America....

Now in hindsight, some may believe that what happened to those students was wrong and they shouldn't have been gunned down -- however, at the time -- many cheered the massacre....local newspapers seemed to support it.... A prominent local attorney noted that if he was there and had a submachine gun, "there probably would have been 140 of them dead, and that's what they need." One non-protesting student returned home to hear her mother pronounce "It would have been better for America if every student on that hill had been killed." "Mother!" she replied, "I was there. Only a miracle of some kind saved me. What about that?" To which her mother responded, "You would have deserved it."

Again looking back in hindsight; it's easy to say you would have been opposed to gunning down those protesters -- but today, maybe that is what needs to happen...maybe we need 4 or 5 more Kent State style shootings....maybe not with just national guardsmen, but with militias like the 3%, Hutaree and the Oath Keepers....have them gun some of these protesters down.....If history is a guide, it is something that would greatly benefit Trump's re-election...there weren't really any political costs paid for the previous shootings -- hell, the shooting at Jackson State barely got any coverage at all -- so at least history has shown that if you focus the shootings on just black folks and claim self defense; you will be believed -- but I wouldn't try my luck with doing any shootings like this on a mass group of white protesters -- because that may not play well since white victims are easier for the media to identify with and dare I say, humanize.....

You’re nuts. Why would anyone support our corrupt government killing it’s citizens? It’s un-American, tyrannical, and stupid.

Stop being a dumb Fascist just because you adore the Orange Messiah.

Hes being sarcastic you ignorant fool, though hes wrong. The National Guard did what they had to do..

Dont assault people with guns

They threw back some tear gas. You absolutely don't know what you're talking about and are an idiot period that was the stupidest war ever. 5 years of Nixon screwing around with his secret plan that was total idiocy. The GOP as the dumbest voters in the modern world by far and now totally misinformed. A a r r g g h h. And like I said Jay Edgar Hoover and Nixon had agent provocateurs and God knows what a disgrace. The GOP is the swamp since Nixon.

I know you do not want to bring up the history of the political parties. Slavery? Democrats. The fight against womens rights? Democrats. Internment and mistreatment of american citizens in WW2 based on their country of origin? Democrats. Fight against civil rights? Mostly democrats. Party that founded the KKK? Yep you guessed it Democrats Those protesters be fine if they were protesting the war and the politicians. But they were not they were Protesting directly to American soldiers who had nothing to do with why we were at war or the reason we lost it.
Basically every reason the Democrats give for hating American was done by THEM.

That's a huge oversimplification. both parties used to have both liberal and conservative wings. Since Nixon the GOP has been the conservatives more and more and the Democrats have been the liberals. Let's talk about today's reality and that of the last 50 years instead of GOP garbage propaganda......

LOL GOP propaganda? How is that possible when 99 percent of the media is Democrat? 90 percent of the education system is Democrat. How they hell are the Republicans spreading their propaganda? Todays reality? The only liberals left are in the GOP all the democrats have are communist/socialist America hating power hungry cocksuckers.

Brainwashed functional morons like you believe anything they are told by Fox Rush online cottage industry liars. Common Sense my butt LOL. The Republican base believes so many conspiracy theories and phony scandals it's ridiculous. Along with pure misinformation like Obama had control for his first two years. Total b*******. The GOP has their disgraceful reconciliation rule so they can pass tax cuts for the rich and cuts in services with 51 votes, which is all they care about. Democrats need 60 votes for reform. Everything you know is wrong dumbass

Obama is a corporatist and he failed miserably in regards to holding execs on Wallstreet accountable....

Obama is a corporatist in the United states? I am shocked shocked LOL. The difference is Democrats are honest and the GOP are lying hypocrite propagandizing scum bags who wreck our economy every time they get 8 years. See the 1920s the 1980s the 2000s and right now if they get another four years....

 

[gipper]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL. And of course the GOP could block anything Obama wanted to do in Congress and did.

Obama had 2 years of a democratic congress what he do with it? Oh yeah nothing is why he lost control of both.

Actually of course that is crap GOP propaganda too, brainwashed functional moron. Obama had 60 votes in the Senate for about 35 days in session and it was all spent on Obamacare. It was the middle of a gigantic but typical GOP corrupt bubble and bust which is no time to do much of anything. But thanks for the b******* super duper....

Obama was over the justice department. How many bankers that broke our laws did he prosecute? Now compare that number to the number of people he put in cages on the border.

The justice department found that most of what they did was no longer illegal after the GOP deregulated and changed rules. Obama was about hope and change not revenge.... And of course Democrats can never believe what scumbags and assholes the gop are.... Could not believe the GOP would obstruct even changes they were in favor of.

Nothing will stop your B.S. obviously. Timmy Geithner said they were not prosecuted because it would be bad for the economy. It was actually the opposite but that is the B.S. he said.

That was another reason period can you keep two things in your head at once? LOL

That was a BS reason and the GOP wasn't able to change anything with Obama having the White House, House and Senate. He had no desire to live up to his promise.

No one thought the black dude would screw the 90%, while enriching the rich.

 

[gipper]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL

From Kent State to Trump: 50 years later, the same divides plague America

The roots of today's polarization were planted then — as were the destructive neoliberal policies that followed

www.salon.com

"Students on the fairly conservative Kent State campus began protesting peacefully on May 1, but later that night young people frequenting the town's bars began to disrupt traffic and eventually, amidst a police crackdown, smashed store windows. Tensions grew the next day, and that night the ROTC building on campus was burned. Police and National Guard troops drove students into their dorms --- Although ordered to disperse, and later tear gassed, most students, believing their campus had been invaded, remained. Few if any imagined the Guards' rifles were locked and loaded, as they were. Within 30 minutes of the noontime start, a line of Guardsmen suddenly turned to face the students, dropped to their knees, and opened fire."

In addition to students protesting the Cambodian invasion at Kent State -- just nine days later, 2 students were killed and 10 others were wounded when police opened fire at a women's dormitory on the campus of historically black college, Jackson State University...in both instances, there were Antifa/BLM like protesters, defying police orders, smashing windows and rioting -- and police along with militia stood up against these communist socialist insurrections and defended America....

Now in hindsight, some may believe that what happened to those students was wrong and they shouldn't have been gunned down -- however, at the time -- many cheered the massacre....local newspapers seemed to support it.... A prominent local attorney noted that if he was there and had a submachine gun, "there probably would have been 140 of them dead, and that's what they need." One non-protesting student returned home to hear her mother pronounce "It would have been better for America if every student on that hill had been killed." "Mother!" she replied, "I was there. Only a miracle of some kind saved me. What about that?" To which her mother responded, "You would have deserved it."

Again looking back in hindsight; it's easy to say you would have been opposed to gunning down those protesters -- but today, maybe that is what needs to happen...maybe we need 4 or 5 more Kent State style shootings....maybe not with just national guardsmen, but with militias like the 3%, Hutaree and the Oath Keepers....have them gun some of these protesters down.....If history is a guide, it is something that would greatly benefit Trump's re-election...there weren't really any political costs paid for the previous shootings -- hell, the shooting at Jackson State barely got any coverage at all -- so at least history has shown that if you focus the shootings on just black folks and claim self defense; you will be believed -- but I wouldn't try my luck with doing any shootings like this on a mass group of white protesters -- because that may not play well since white victims are easier for the media to identify with and dare I say, humanize.....

You’re nuts. Why would anyone support our corrupt government killing it’s citizens? It’s un-American, tyrannical, and stupid.

Stop being a dumb Fascist just because you adore the Orange Messiah.

Hes being sarcastic you ignorant fool, though hes wrong. The National Guard did what they had to do..

Dont assault people with guns

They threw back some tear gas. You absolutely don't know what you're talking about and are an idiot period that was the stupidest war ever. 5 years of Nixon screwing around with his secret plan that was total idiocy. The GOP as the dumbest voters in the modern world by far and now totally misinformed. A a r r g g h h. And like I said Jay Edgar Hoover and Nixon had agent provocateurs and God knows what a disgrace. The GOP is the swamp since Nixon.

I know you do not want to bring up the history of the political parties. Slavery? Democrats. The fight against womens rights? Democrats. Internment and mistreatment of american citizens in WW2 based on their country of origin? Democrats. Fight against civil rights? Mostly democrats. Party that founded the KKK? Yep you guessed it Democrats Those protesters be fine if they were protesting the war and the politicians. But they were not they were Protesting directly to American soldiers who had nothing to do with why we were at war or the reason we lost it.
Basically every reason the Democrats give for hating American was done by THEM.

That's a huge oversimplification. both parties used to have both liberal and conservative wings. Since Nixon the GOP has been the conservatives more and more and the Democrats have been the liberals. Let's talk about today's reality and that of the last 50 years instead of GOP garbage propaganda......

LOL GOP propaganda? How is that possible when 99 percent of the media is Democrat? 90 percent of the education system is Democrat. How they hell are the Republicans spreading their propaganda? Todays reality? The only liberals left are in the GOP all the democrats have are communist/socialist America hating power hungry cocksuckers.

Brainwashed functional morons like you believe anything they are told by Fox Rush online cottage industry liars. Common Sense my butt LOL. The Republican base believes so many conspiracy theories and phony scandals it's ridiculous. Along with pure misinformation like Obama had control for his first two years. Total b*******. The GOP has their disgraceful reconciliation rule so they can pass tax cuts for the rich and cuts in services with 51 votes, which is all they care about. Democrats need 60 votes for reform. Everything you know is wrong dumbass

Obama is a corporatist and he failed miserably in regards to holding execs on Wallstreet accountable....

I'll be right back Obama is a corporate test in the United states? I am shocked shocked LOL. The difference is Democrats are honest and the GOP are lying hypocrite propagandizing scum bags who wreck our economy every time they get 8 years. See the 1920s the 1980s the 2000s and right now if they get another four years....

You’re hilarious. You can’t be real, right? You’re a DNC paid poster. That’s the only explanation for your partisan idiocy.

 

[gipper]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL. And of course the GOP could block anything Obama wanted to do in Congress and did.

The ignorance of the partisan on full display.

Another mystery comment by the brainwashed functional morons. Of course Obama was a capitalist but not a corrupt one like the swampy GOP. Only your ridiculous imaginary planet of phony scandals and ridiculous conspiracy theories makes this idiocy possible. Tell me where I'm wrong instead of babbling.

To further destroy your foolishness, the D Party nominated the most conservative politician they could find. An old white corrupt demented racist warmonger.

Wake up dummy. Get that partisan blinder off.

More garbage GOP propaganda. Joe's just fine and plenty progressive. Sorry you don't have 20 years of garbage propaganda against him like with Hillary......

No. We have 45 years of corporatism, warmongering, and corruption. Lots of lying too.

 

[pknopp]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL. And of course the GOP could block anything Obama wanted to do in Congress and did.

Obama had 2 years of a democratic congress what he do with it? Oh yeah nothing is why he lost control of both.

Actually of course that is crap GOP propaganda too, brainwashed functional moron. Obama had 60 votes in the Senate for about 35 days in session and it was all spent on Obamacare. It was the middle of a gigantic but typical GOP corrupt bubble and bust which is no time to do much of anything. But thanks for the b******* super duper....

Obama was over the justice department. How many bankers that broke our laws did he prosecute? Now compare that number to the number of people he put in cages on the border.

The justice department found that most of what they did was no longer illegal after the GOP deregulated and changed rules. Obama was about hope and change not revenge.... And of course Democrats can never believe what scumbags and assholes the gop are.... Could not believe the GOP would obstruct even changes they were in favor of.

Nothing will stop your B.S. obviously. Timmy Geithner said they were not prosecuted because it would be bad for the economy. It was actually the opposite but that is the B.S. he said.

That was another reason period can you keep two things in your head at once? LOL

That was a BS reason and the GOP wasn't able to change anything with Obama having the White House, House and Senate. He had no desire to live up to his promise.

The GOP changed the rules back in 2002 2003. That is why Fannie and Freddie's share of the market went for 75% to 25% and GOP cronies in the private market like countrywide raped us all. What promise? LOL

The Untouchables: How the Obama administration protected Wall Street from prosecutions | Glenn Greenwald

Obama's Big Lie - CounterPunch.org

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL

From Kent State to Trump: 50 years later, the same divides plague America

The roots of today's polarization were planted then — as were the destructive neoliberal policies that followed

www.salon.com

"Students on the fairly conservative Kent State campus began protesting peacefully on May 1, but later that night young people frequenting the town's bars began to disrupt traffic and eventually, amidst a police crackdown, smashed store windows. Tensions grew the next day, and that night the ROTC building on campus was burned. Police and National Guard troops drove students into their dorms --- Although ordered to disperse, and later tear gassed, most students, believing their campus had been invaded, remained. Few if any imagined the Guards' rifles were locked and loaded, as they were. Within 30 minutes of the noontime start, a line of Guardsmen suddenly turned to face the students, dropped to their knees, and opened fire."

In addition to students protesting the Cambodian invasion at Kent State -- just nine days later, 2 students were killed and 10 others were wounded when police opened fire at a women's dormitory on the campus of historically black college, Jackson State University...in both instances, there were Antifa/BLM like protesters, defying police orders, smashing windows and rioting -- and police along with militia stood up against these communist socialist insurrections and defended America....

Now in hindsight, some may believe that what happened to those students was wrong and they shouldn't have been gunned down -- however, at the time -- many cheered the massacre....local newspapers seemed to support it.... A prominent local attorney noted that if he was there and had a submachine gun, "there probably would have been 140 of them dead, and that's what they need." One non-protesting student returned home to hear her mother pronounce "It would have been better for America if every student on that hill had been killed." "Mother!" she replied, "I was there. Only a miracle of some kind saved me. What about that?" To which her mother responded, "You would have deserved it."

Again looking back in hindsight; it's easy to say you would have been opposed to gunning down those protesters -- but today, maybe that is what needs to happen...maybe we need 4 or 5 more Kent State style shootings....maybe not with just national guardsmen, but with militias like the 3%, Hutaree and the Oath Keepers....have them gun some of these protesters down.....If history is a guide, it is something that would greatly benefit Trump's re-election...there weren't really any political costs paid for the previous shootings -- hell, the shooting at Jackson State barely got any coverage at all -- so at least history has shown that if you focus the shootings on just black folks and claim self defense; you will be believed -- but I wouldn't try my luck with doing any shootings like this on a mass group of white protesters -- because that may not play well since white victims are easier for the media to identify with and dare I say, humanize.....

You’re nuts. Why would anyone support our corrupt government killing it’s citizens? It’s un-American, tyrannical, and stupid.

Stop being a dumb Fascist just because you adore the Orange Messiah.

Hes being sarcastic you ignorant fool, though hes wrong. The National Guard did what they had to do..

Dont assault people with guns

They threw back some tear gas. You absolutely don't know what you're talking about and are an idiot period that was the stupidest war ever. 5 years of Nixon screwing around with his secret plan that was total idiocy. The GOP as the dumbest voters in the modern world by far and now totally misinformed. A a r r g g h h. And like I said Jay Edgar Hoover and Nixon had agent provocateurs and God knows what a disgrace. The GOP is the swamp since Nixon.

I know you do not want to bring up the history of the political parties. Slavery? Democrats. The fight against womens rights? Democrats. Internment and mistreatment of american citizens in WW2 based on their country of origin? Democrats. Fight against civil rights? Mostly democrats. Party that founded the KKK? Yep you guessed it Democrats Those protesters be fine if they were protesting the war and the politicians. But they were not they were Protesting directly to American soldiers who had nothing to do with why we were at war or the reason we lost it.
Basically every reason the Democrats give for hating American was done by THEM.

That's a huge oversimplification. both parties used to have both liberal and conservative wings. Since Nixon the GOP has been the conservatives more and more and the Democrats have been the liberals. Let's talk about today's reality and that of the last 50 years instead of GOP garbage propaganda......

LOL GOP propaganda? How is that possible when 99 percent of the media is Democrat? 90 percent of the education system is Democrat. How they hell are the Republicans spreading their propaganda? Todays reality? The only liberals left are in the GOP all the democrats have are communist/socialist America hating power hungry cocksuckers.

Brainwashed functional morons like you believe anything they are told by Fox Rush online cottage industry liars. Common Sense my butt LOL. The Republican base believes so many conspiracy theories and phony scandals it's ridiculous. Along with pure misinformation like Obama had control for his first two years. Total b*******. The GOP has their disgraceful reconciliation rule so they can pass tax cuts for the rich and cuts in services with 51 votes, which is all they care about. Democrats need 60 votes for reform. Everything you know is wrong dumbass

Obama is a corporatist and he failed miserably in regards to holding execs on Wallstreet accountable....

Obama is a corporatist in the United states? I am shocked shocked LOL. The difference is Democrats are honest and the GOP are lying hypocrite propagandizing scum bags who wreck our economy every time they get 8 years. See the 1920s the 1980s the 2000s and right now if they get another four years....

Yes, a corporatist in the US -- you act as if someone can't run on policies that deter financial crimes and holds those on Wallstreet accountable in the same way we do people with the least amount of power

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL. And of course the GOP could block anything Obama wanted to do in Congress and did.

The ignorance of the partisan on full display.

Another mystery comment by the brainwashed functional morons. Of course Obama was a capitalist but not a corrupt one like the swampy GOP. Only your ridiculous imaginary planet of phony scandals and ridiculous conspiracy theories makes this idiocy possible. Tell me where I'm wrong instead of babbling.

To further destroy your foolishness, the D Party nominated the most conservative politician they could find. An old white corrupt demented racist warmonger.

Wake up dummy. Get that partisan blinder off.

Except he is also controlled by the radical progressive left and he will turn the country into the communist Soviet Union and arrest rich people

Seems Franco aint the only one on this post with blinders on, gimp...I mean gip

 

[francoHFW]

Being

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL. And of course the GOP could block anything Obama wanted to do in Congress and did.

The ignorance of the partisan on full display.

Another mystery comment by the brainwashed functional morons. Of course Obama was a capitalist but not a corrupt one like the swampy GOP. Only your ridiculous imaginary planet of phony scandals and ridiculous conspiracy theories makes this idiocy possible. Tell me where I'm wrong instead of babbling.

To further destroy your foolishness, the D Party nominated the most conservative politician they could find. An old white corrupt demented racist warmonger.

Wake up dummy. Get that partisan blinder off.

Except he is also controlled by the radical progressive left and he will turn the country into the communist Soviet Union and arrest rich people

Seems Franco aint the only one on this post with blinders on, gimp...I mean gip

Being more like Canada is not that scary, brainwashed functional moron. what is going to turn us into communists, a living wage healthcare daycare paid parental leave great infrastructure and vacations, an ID card to end illegal immigration, or taxing the rich for a change? You are out of your tiny little mind..... Change the channel. Or whatever garbage you are listening to.

 

[francoHFW]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL

From Kent State to Trump: 50 years later, the same divides plague America

The roots of today's polarization were planted then — as were the destructive neoliberal policies that followed

www.salon.com

"Students on the fairly conservative Kent State campus began protesting peacefully on May 1, but later that night young people frequenting the town's bars began to disrupt traffic and eventually, amidst a police crackdown, smashed store windows. Tensions grew the next day, and that night the ROTC building on campus was burned. Police and National Guard troops drove students into their dorms --- Although ordered to disperse, and later tear gassed, most students, believing their campus had been invaded, remained. Few if any imagined the Guards' rifles were locked and loaded, as they were. Within 30 minutes of the noontime start, a line of Guardsmen suddenly turned to face the students, dropped to their knees, and opened fire."

In addition to students protesting the Cambodian invasion at Kent State -- just nine days later, 2 students were killed and 10 others were wounded when police opened fire at a women's dormitory on the campus of historically black college, Jackson State University...in both instances, there were Antifa/BLM like protesters, defying police orders, smashing windows and rioting -- and police along with militia stood up against these communist socialist insurrections and defended America....

Now in hindsight, some may believe that what happened to those students was wrong and they shouldn't have been gunned down -- however, at the time -- many cheered the massacre....local newspapers seemed to support it.... A prominent local attorney noted that if he was there and had a submachine gun, "there probably would have been 140 of them dead, and that's what they need." One non-protesting student returned home to hear her mother pronounce "It would have been better for America if every student on that hill had been killed." "Mother!" she replied, "I was there. Only a miracle of some kind saved me. What about that?" To which her mother responded, "You would have deserved it."

Again looking back in hindsight; it's easy to say you would have been opposed to gunning down those protesters -- but today, maybe that is what needs to happen...maybe we need 4 or 5 more Kent State style shootings....maybe not with just national guardsmen, but with militias like the 3%, Hutaree and the Oath Keepers....have them gun some of these protesters down.....If history is a guide, it is something that would greatly benefit Trump's re-election...there weren't really any political costs paid for the previous shootings -- hell, the shooting at Jackson State barely got any coverage at all -- so at least history has shown that if you focus the shootings on just black folks and claim self defense; you will be believed -- but I wouldn't try my luck with doing any shootings like this on a mass group of white protesters -- because that may not play well since white victims are easier for the media to identify with and dare I say, humanize.....

You’re nuts. Why would anyone support our corrupt government killing it’s citizens? It’s un-American, tyrannical, and stupid.

Stop being a dumb Fascist just because you adore the Orange Messiah.

Hes being sarcastic you ignorant fool, though hes wrong. The National Guard did what they had to do..

Dont assault people with guns

They threw back some tear gas. You absolutely don't know what you're talking about and are an idiot period that was the stupidest war ever. 5 years of Nixon screwing around with his secret plan that was total idiocy. The GOP as the dumbest voters in the modern world by far and now totally misinformed. A a r r g g h h. And like I said Jay Edgar Hoover and Nixon had agent provocateurs and God knows what a disgrace. The GOP is the swamp since Nixon.

I know you do not want to bring up the history of the political parties. Slavery? Democrats. The fight against womens rights? Democrats. Internment and mistreatment of american citizens in WW2 based on their country of origin? Democrats. Fight against civil rights? Mostly democrats. Party that founded the KKK? Yep you guessed it Democrats Those protesters be fine if they were protesting the war and the politicians. But they were not they were Protesting directly to American soldiers who had nothing to do with why we were at war or the reason we lost it.
Basically every reason the Democrats give for hating American was done by THEM.

That's a huge oversimplification. both parties used to have both liberal and conservative wings. Since Nixon the GOP has been the conservatives more and more and the Democrats have been the liberals. Let's talk about today's reality and that of the last 50 years instead of GOP garbage propaganda......

LOL GOP propaganda? How is that possible when 99 percent of the media is Democrat? 90 percent of the education system is Democrat. How they hell are the Republicans spreading their propaganda? Todays reality? The only liberals left are in the GOP all the democrats have are communist/socialist America hating power hungry cocksuckers.

Brainwashed functional morons like you believe anything they are told by Fox Rush online cottage industry liars. Common Sense my butt LOL. The Republican base believes so many conspiracy theories and phony scandals it's ridiculous. Along with pure misinformation like Obama had control for his first two years. Total b*******. The GOP has their disgraceful reconciliation rule so they can pass tax cuts for the rich and cuts in services with 51 votes, which is all they care about. Democrats need 60 votes for reform. Everything you know is wrong dumbass

Obama is a corporatist and he failed miserably in regards to holding execs on Wallstreet accountable....

Obama is a corporatist in the United states? I am shocked shocked LOL. The difference is Democrats are honest and the GOP are lying hypocrite propagandizing scum bags who wreck our economy every time they get 8 years. See the 1920s the 1980s the 2000s and right now if they get another four years....

Yes, a corporatist in the US -- you act as if someone can't run on policies that deter financial crimes and holds those on Wallstreet accountable in the same way we do people with the least amount of power

The GOP made sure their cronies were covered. And Democrats are pussies anyway-they follow the Constitution and rules and stuff LOL. They let the GOP get away with a lot. But nothing in comparison with dupes like you....

 

[francoHFW]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL. And of course the GOP could block anything Obama wanted to do in Congress and did.

Obama had 2 years of a democratic congress what he do with it? Oh yeah nothing is why he lost control of both.

Actually of course that is crap GOP propaganda too, brainwashed functional moron. Obama had 60 votes in the Senate for about 35 days in session and it was all spent on Obamacare. It was the middle of a gigantic but typical GOP corrupt bubble and bust which is no time to do much of anything. But thanks for the b******* super duper....

Obama was over the justice department. How many bankers that broke our laws did he prosecute? Now compare that number to the number of people he put in cages on the border.

The justice department found that most of what they did was no longer illegal after the GOP deregulated and changed rules. Obama was about hope and change not revenge.... And of course Democrats can never believe what scumbags and assholes the gop are.... Could not believe the GOP would obstruct even changes they were in favor of.

Nothing will stop your B.S. obviously. Timmy Geithner said they were not prosecuted because it would be bad for the economy. It was actually the opposite but that is the B.S. he said.

That was another reason period can you keep two things in your head at once? LOL

That was a BS reason and the GOP wasn't able to change anything with Obama having the White House, House and Senate. He had no desire to live up to his promise.

The GOP changed the rules back in 2002 2003. That is why Fannie and Freddie's share of the market went for 75% to 25% and GOP cronies in the private market like countrywide raped us all. What promise? LOL

The Untouchables: How the Obama administration protected Wall Street from prosecutions | Glenn Greenwald

Obama's Big Lie - CounterPunch.org

More garbage GOP propaganda. I am shocked shocked LOL

 

[francoHFW]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL. And of course the GOP could block anything Obama wanted to do in Congress and did.

The ignorance of the partisan on full display.

Another mystery comment by the brainwashed functional morons. Of course Obama was a capitalist but not a corrupt one like the swampy GOP. Only your ridiculous imaginary planet of phony scandals and ridiculous conspiracy theories makes this idiocy possible. Tell me where I'm wrong instead of babbling.

To further destroy your foolishness, the D Party nominated the most conservative politician they could find. An old white corrupt demented racist warmonger.

Wake up dummy. Get that partisan blinder off.

More garbage GOP propaganda. Joe's just fine and plenty progressive. Sorry you don't have 20 years of garbage propaganda against him like with Hillary......

No. We have 45 years of corporatism, warmongering, and corruption. Lots of lying too.

Actually 40 years. Since Reagan got elected. 40 years of GOP dominance and garbage propaganda....

 

[francoHFW]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL

From Kent State to Trump: 50 years later, the same divides plague America

The roots of today's polarization were planted then — as were the destructive neoliberal policies that followed

www.salon.com

"Students on the fairly conservative Kent State campus began protesting peacefully on May 1, but later that night young people frequenting the town's bars began to disrupt traffic and eventually, amidst a police crackdown, smashed store windows. Tensions grew the next day, and that night the ROTC building on campus was burned. Police and National Guard troops drove students into their dorms --- Although ordered to disperse, and later tear gassed, most students, believing their campus had been invaded, remained. Few if any imagined the Guards' rifles were locked and loaded, as they were. Within 30 minutes of the noontime start, a line of Guardsmen suddenly turned to face the students, dropped to their knees, and opened fire."

In addition to students protesting the Cambodian invasion at Kent State -- just nine days later, 2 students were killed and 10 others were wounded when police opened fire at a women's dormitory on the campus of historically black college, Jackson State University...in both instances, there were Antifa/BLM like protesters, defying police orders, smashing windows and rioting -- and police along with militia stood up against these communist socialist insurrections and defended America....

Now in hindsight, some may believe that what happened to those students was wrong and they shouldn't have been gunned down -- however, at the time -- many cheered the massacre....local newspapers seemed to support it.... A prominent local attorney noted that if he was there and had a submachine gun, "there probably would have been 140 of them dead, and that's what they need." One non-protesting student returned home to hear her mother pronounce "It would have been better for America if every student on that hill had been killed." "Mother!" she replied, "I was there. Only a miracle of some kind saved me. What about that?" To which her mother responded, "You would have deserved it."

Again looking back in hindsight; it's easy to say you would have been opposed to gunning down those protesters -- but today, maybe that is what needs to happen...maybe we need 4 or 5 more Kent State style shootings....maybe not with just national guardsmen, but with militias like the 3%, Hutaree and the Oath Keepers....have them gun some of these protesters down.....If history is a guide, it is something that would greatly benefit Trump's re-election...there weren't really any political costs paid for the previous shootings -- hell, the shooting at Jackson State barely got any coverage at all -- so at least history has shown that if you focus the shootings on just black folks and claim self defense; you will be believed -- but I wouldn't try my luck with doing any shootings like this on a mass group of white protesters -- because that may not play well since white victims are easier for the media to identify with and dare I say, humanize.....

You’re nuts. Why would anyone support our corrupt government killing it’s citizens? It’s un-American, tyrannical, and stupid.

Stop being a dumb Fascist just because you adore the Orange Messiah.

Hes being sarcastic you ignorant fool, though hes wrong. The National Guard did what they had to do..

Dont assault people with guns

They threw back some tear gas. You absolutely don't know what you're talking about and are an idiot period that was the stupidest war ever. 5 years of Nixon screwing around with his secret plan that was total idiocy. The GOP as the dumbest voters in the modern world by far and now totally misinformed. A a r r g g h h. And like I said Jay Edgar Hoover and Nixon had agent provocateurs and God knows what a disgrace. The GOP is the swamp since Nixon.

I know you do not want to bring up the history of the political parties. Slavery? Democrats. The fight against womens rights? Democrats. Internment and mistreatment of american citizens in WW2 based on their country of origin? Democrats. Fight against civil rights? Mostly democrats. Party that founded the KKK? Yep you guessed it Democrats Those protesters be fine if they were protesting the war and the politicians. But they were not they were Protesting directly to American soldiers who had nothing to do with why we were at war or the reason we lost it.
Basically every reason the Democrats give for hating American was done by THEM.

That's a huge oversimplification. both parties used to have both liberal and conservative wings. Since Nixon the GOP has been the conservatives more and more and the Democrats have been the liberals. Let's talk about today's reality and that of the last 50 years instead of GOP garbage propaganda......

LOL GOP propaganda? How is that possible when 99 percent of the media is Democrat? 90 percent of the education system is Democrat. How they hell are the Republicans spreading their propaganda? Todays reality? The only liberals left are in the GOP all the democrats have are communist/socialist America hating power hungry cocksuckers.

Brainwashed functional morons like you believe anything they are told by Fox Rush online cottage industry liars. Common Sense my butt LOL. The Republican base believes so many conspiracy theories and phony scandals it's ridiculous. Along with pure misinformation like Obama had control for his first two years. Total b*******. The GOP has their disgraceful reconciliation rule so they can pass tax cuts for the rich and cuts in services with 51 votes, which is all they care about. Democrats need 60 votes for reform. Everything you know is wrong dumbass

Obama is a corporatist and he failed miserably in regards to holding execs on Wallstreet accountable....

Obama is a corporatist in the United states? I am shocked shocked LOL. The difference is Democrats are honest and the GOP are lying hypocrite propagandizing scum bags who wreck our economy every time they get 8 years. See the 1920s the 1980s the 2000s and right now if they get another four years....

Yes, a corporatist in the US -- you act as if someone can't run on policies that deter financial crimes and holds those on Wallstreet accountable in the same way we do people with the least amount of power

Democrats always run on deterring crime while the GOP runs on crime. Great job to be taken in as always..... And preferring the actual criminals and their cronies over the good guys.....

 

[debbiedowner]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL

From Kent State to Trump: 50 years later, the same divides plague America

The roots of today's polarization were planted then — as were the destructive neoliberal policies that followed

www.salon.com

"Students on the fairly conservative Kent State campus began protesting peacefully on May 1, but later that night young people frequenting the town's bars began to disrupt traffic and eventually, amidst a police crackdown, smashed store windows. Tensions grew the next day, and that night the ROTC building on campus was burned. Police and National Guard troops drove students into their dorms --- Although ordered to disperse, and later tear gassed, most students, believing their campus had been invaded, remained. Few if any imagined the Guards' rifles were locked and loaded, as they were. Within 30 minutes of the noontime start, a line of Guardsmen suddenly turned to face the students, dropped to their knees, and opened fire."

In addition to students protesting the Cambodian invasion at Kent State -- just nine days later, 2 students were killed and 10 others were wounded when police opened fire at a women's dormitory on the campus of historically black college, Jackson State University...in both instances, there were Antifa/BLM like protesters, defying police orders, smashing windows and rioting -- and police along with militia stood up against these communist socialist insurrections and defended America....

Now in hindsight, some may believe that what happened to those students was wrong and they shouldn't have been gunned down -- however, at the time -- many cheered the massacre....local newspapers seemed to support it.... A prominent local attorney noted that if he was there and had a submachine gun, "there probably would have been 140 of them dead, and that's what they need." One non-protesting student returned home to hear her mother pronounce "It would have been better for America if every student on that hill had been killed." "Mother!" she replied, "I was there. Only a miracle of some kind saved me. What about that?" To which her mother responded, "You would have deserved it."

Again looking back in hindsight; it's easy to say you would have been opposed to gunning down those protesters -- but today, maybe that is what needs to happen...maybe we need 4 or 5 more Kent State style shootings....maybe not with just national guardsmen, but with militias like the 3%, Hutaree and the Oath Keepers....have them gun some of these protesters down.....If history is a guide, it is something that would greatly benefit Trump's re-election...there weren't really any political costs paid for the previous shootings -- hell, the shooting at Jackson State barely got any coverage at all -- so at least history has shown that if you focus the shootings on just black folks and claim self defense; you will be believed -- but I wouldn't try my luck with doing any shootings like this on a mass group of white protesters -- because that may not play well since white victims are easier for the media to identify with and dare I say, humanize.....

You’re nuts. Why would anyone support our corrupt government killing it’s citizens? It’s un-American, tyrannical, and stupid.

Stop being a dumb Fascist just because you adore the Orange Messiah.

Hes being sarcastic you ignorant fool, though hes wrong. The National Guard did what they had to do..

Dont assault people with guns

They threw back some tear gas. You absolutely don't know what you're talking about and are an idiot period that was the stupidest war ever. 5 years of Nixon screwing around with his secret plan that was total idiocy. The GOP as the dumbest voters in the modern world by far and now totally misinformed. A a r r g g h h. And like I said Jay Edgar Hoover and Nixon had agent provocateurs and God knows what a disgrace. The GOP is the swamp since Nixon.

I know you do not want to bring up the history of the political parties. Slavery? Democrats. The fight against womens rights? Democrats. Internment and mistreatment of american citizens in WW2 based on their country of origin? Democrats. Fight against civil rights? Mostly democrats. Party that founded the KKK? Yep you guessed it Democrats Those protesters be fine if they were protesting the war and the politicians. But they were not they were Protesting directly to American soldiers who had nothing to do with why we were at war or the reason we lost it.
Basically every reason the Democrats give for hating American was done by THEM.

That's a huge oversimplification. both parties used to have both liberal and conservative wings. Since Nixon the GOP has been the conservatives more and more and the Democrats have been the liberals. Let's talk about today's reality and that of the last 50 years instead of GOP garbage propaganda......

LOL GOP propaganda? How is that possible when 99 percent of the media is Democrat? 90 percent of the education system is Democrat. How they hell are the Republicans spreading their propaganda? Todays reality? The only liberals left are in the GOP all the democrats have are communist/socialist America hating power hungry cocksuckers.

Brainwashed functional morons like you believe anything they are told by Fox Rush online cottage industry liars. Common Sense my butt LOL. The Republican base believes so many conspiracy theories and phony scandals it's ridiculous. Along with pure misinformation like Obama had control for his first two years. Total b*******. The GOP has their disgraceful reconciliation rule so they can pass tax cuts for the rich and cuts in services with 51 votes, which is all they care about. Democrats need 60 votes for reform. Everything you know is wrong dumbass

Obama is a corporatist and he failed miserably in regards to holding execs on Wallstreet accountable....

Obama is a corporatist in the United states? I am shocked shocked LOL. The difference is Democrats are honest and the GOP are lying hypocrite propagandizing scum bags who wreck our economy every time they get 8 years. See the 1920s the 1980s the 2000s and right now if they get another four years....

Every damn time and then a dem is elected they blame it on them. They haven't and will never learn, the gop throws a bone to them in the way of a pittance of a tax cut and they cum in their pants.

 

[sartre play]

Amazing, we attack each other while they rip us off big time. who started this commie under every bed? Where did this information come from? I personally don't know one. be honest do you,? & yes their is a strong progressive wing in the Democratic party, I believe its in reaction to returning us to a two class nation. neither party works for the average American.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Amazing, we attack each other while they rip us off big time. who started this commie under every bed? Where did this information come from? I personally don't know one. be honest do you,? & yes their is a strong progressive wing in the Democratic party, I believe its in reaction to returning us to a two class nation. neither party works for the average American.

In order to answer that, we have to look at history from 1957. And understand that one small group tried to take over the government, namely, Eisenhower. But Eisenhower wouldn't let them. So they left the Republican Party and formed their own party. And extended the McCarthy "Commie behind every Bush and Tree". They actively attacked Eisenhower as a Communist and anyone that disagreed with their views. That didn't work out so well for them. They tried to infilrate the Republican Party in 1964 and were unceremoniously sent packing by Goldwater and his bunch. There were a few hundred thousand of them at that time. But as time went on, they fell out of flavor. About the most they could come up with that the general public saw was the "Get us out of the UN" signs.

Then the Tea Party was formed. It started out with wonderful ideals. I joined right after it formed. For many of us, we were quite unhappy with both the Democrats and Republicans. That didn't last very long. It was soon overrun by another group of people. The same bunch that tried to invade the Republican Party in 1964. The day of the Teaparty was ended not long after that. Locust has the same effect to a wheat field. many of the so called Tea Party elected Policos were actually part of the invading locust when they invaded the Republican Party. As soon as they gutted the Tea Party, they moved on to the Republican Party and then Gutted it as well and the Tea Party died. Now, the Republican Party has died as well.

To give you an idea, Rump was raised as one of these Locusts. Ted Cruz is a registered Member in Texas and he makes no bones about it. There are many in Office that also belong but most won't publicly admit it.

Now that I have given enough information, can anyone tell me what party did they all come from AND are STILL member of?

 

[RandomPoster]

The Kent State students surrounded the National Guardsmen, throwing bricks, a Molotov cocktail, and gradually closing the circle tighter and tighter, trying to bluff and get close enough to take the soldier's rifles away. Then someone discharged a firearm and someone yelled "SNIPER!". That is when the National Guard opened fire. Several National Guardsmen have been interviewed and said they were afraid for their lives.

 

[gipper]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL. And of course the GOP could block anything Obama wanted to do in Congress and did.

The ignorance of the partisan on full display.

Another mystery comment by the brainwashed functional morons. Of course Obama was a capitalist but not a corrupt one like the swampy GOP. Only your ridiculous imaginary planet of phony scandals and ridiculous conspiracy theories makes this idiocy possible. Tell me where I'm wrong instead of babbling.

To further destroy your foolishness, the D Party nominated the most conservative politician they could find. An old white corrupt demented racist warmonger.

Wake up dummy. Get that partisan blinder off.

Except he is also controlled by the radical progressive left and he will turn the country into the communist Soviet Union and arrest rich people

Seems Franco aint the only one on this post with blinders on, gimp...I mean gip

Lol. Biden is not controlled by the radical left. If he were, he’d be pushing universal HC, UBI, Green New Deal, legalized drugs, drastic reduction in the war machine, etc. All these issues he has made clear he is against, plus he has long supported nonstop war and reductions in social programs. He’s an R, but D and R voters don’t know it.

 

[francoHFW]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL. And of course the GOP could block anything Obama wanted to do in Congress and did.

The ignorance of the partisan on full display.

Another mystery comment by the brainwashed functional morons. Of course Obama was a capitalist but not a corrupt one like the swampy GOP. Only your ridiculous imaginary planet of phony scandals and ridiculous conspiracy theories makes this idiocy possible. Tell me where I'm wrong instead of babbling.

To further destroy your foolishness, the D Party nominated the most conservative politician they could find. An old white corrupt demented racist warmonger.

Wake up dummy. Get that partisan blinder off.

Except he is also controlled by the radical progressive left and he will turn the country into the communist Soviet Union and arrest rich people

Seems Franco aint the only one on this post with blinders on, gimp...I mean gip

Lol. Biden is not controlled by the radical left. If he were, he’d be pushing universal HC, UBI, Green New Deal, legalized drugs, drastic reduction in the war machine, etc. All these issues he has made clear he is against, plus he has long supported nonstop war and reductions in social programs. He’s an R, but D and R voters don’t know it.

He will fix Obamacare and give everyone who wants it healthcare. He'll do all that stuff but in smaller steps and not scaring people....

 

[RandomPoster]

The Kent State students surrounded the National Guardsmen, throwing bricks, a Molotov cocktail, and gradually closing the circle tighter and tighter, trying to bluff and get close enough to take the soldier's rifles away. Then someone discharged a firearm and someone yelled "SNIPER!". That is when the National Guard opened fire. Several National Guardsmen have been interviewed and said they were afraid for their lives.

" Guard officials claimed Monday and again today that the Guardsmen were returning the fire of a small caliber weapon in defense of their lives. A student crowd had surrounded some 30 Guardsmen and were throwing rocks and chunks of concrete at them."

AP Was There: National Guard kills 4 students at Kent State

The Ohio National Guard opened fire on unarmed college students during a war protest at Kent State University on May 4, 1970. Four students were killed, and nine others were injured. Not all of those hurt or killed were involved in the demonstration, which opposed the U.S. bombing of neutral...

news.yahoo.com

It is believed that there was no sniper and that the firearm discharged by the rioting students was someone likely firing a pistol in the air. The small number of guardsmen who were being pelted by rocks and chunks of concrete, as well as having a Molotov cocktail thrown at them simply reacted when a pistol was fired in the air.

 

[francoHFW]

There is very little sign of any of this happening. The "Neoliberals" still run the party. I do not think I've seen Biden or Harris asked or talk about the wars. I understand the idea isn't just about the wars but to me it goes to the heart of the matter.

There are no protests. There are no questions.

The neoliberals are Republicans. Very confusing. From the link...

They are also people like Obama and Hillary. They both fully supported the very things the people were protesting at Kent State. How is it that neither were able to learn anything?

Capitalism was revived in a new neoliberal form, serving the interests of the 1%. Ronald Reagan became the perfect spokesperson of the new regime because he voiced conservative values and denounced the '60s while simultaneously turning American politics over to the market place and hence the wealthy.

The 1% did very, very well under Obama. The poor not so much. The excuses are many.

Of course not. The Democrats don't have enough votes to raise taxes on the rich and invest in America and Americans for the billionth time. And cut taxes and raise services for the non-rich by the way period after 40 years of GOP giveaway to the rich it might just be time to give them a try duh. Everything bad you know about them is GOP garbage propaganda by source.

I don't listen to the GOP.

Do you suppose Cornell West does?

Pity the sad legacy of Barack Obama | Cornel West

Dr West described O perfectly when he called him, “the black mascot of Wall Street.”

And Republicans are much worse. Obama was trying to avoid a full-blown world depression. Another corrupt crony GOP bubble and bust world depression. Screw Cornell West and screw what's his name the Republican LOL

From Kent State to Trump: 50 years later, the same divides plague America

The roots of today's polarization were planted then — as were the destructive neoliberal policies that followed

www.salon.com

"Students on the fairly conservative Kent State campus began protesting peacefully on May 1, but later that night young people frequenting the town's bars began to disrupt traffic and eventually, amidst a police crackdown, smashed store windows. Tensions grew the next day, and that night the ROTC building on campus was burned. Police and National Guard troops drove students into their dorms --- Although ordered to disperse, and later tear gassed, most students, believing their campus had been invaded, remained. Few if any imagined the Guards' rifles were locked and loaded, as they were. Within 30 minutes of the noontime start, a line of Guardsmen suddenly turned to face the students, dropped to their knees, and opened fire."

In addition to students protesting the Cambodian invasion at Kent State -- just nine days later, 2 students were killed and 10 others were wounded when police opened fire at a women's dormitory on the campus of historically black college, Jackson State University...in both instances, there were Antifa/BLM like protesters, defying police orders, smashing windows and rioting -- and police along with militia stood up against these communist socialist insurrections and defended America....

Now in hindsight, some may believe that what happened to those students was wrong and they shouldn't have been gunned down -- however, at the time -- many cheered the massacre....local newspapers seemed to support it.... A prominent local attorney noted that if he was there and had a submachine gun, "there probably would have been 140 of them dead, and that's what they need." One non-protesting student returned home to hear her mother pronounce "It would have been better for America if every student on that hill had been killed." "Mother!" she replied, "I was there. Only a miracle of some kind saved me. What about that?" To which her mother responded, "You would have deserved it."

Again looking back in hindsight; it's easy to say you would have been opposed to gunning down those protesters -- but today, maybe that is what needs to happen...maybe we need 4 or 5 more Kent State style shootings....maybe not with just national guardsmen, but with militias like the 3%, Hutaree and the Oath Keepers....have them gun some of these protesters down.....If history is a guide, it is something that would greatly benefit Trump's re-election...there weren't really any political costs paid for the previous shootings -- hell, the shooting at Jackson State barely got any coverage at all -- so at least history has shown that if you focus the shootings on just black folks and claim self defense; you will be believed -- but I wouldn't try my luck with doing any shootings like this on a mass group of white protesters -- because that may not play well since white victims are easier for the media to identify with and dare I say, humanize.....

You’re nuts. Why would anyone support our corrupt government killing it’s citizens? It’s un-American, tyrannical, and stupid.

Stop being a dumb Fascist just because you adore the Orange Messiah.

Hes being sarcastic you ignorant fool, though hes wrong. The National Guard did what they had to do..

Dont assault people with guns

They threw back some tear gas. You absolutely don't know what you're talking about and are an idiot period that was the stupidest war ever. 5 years of Nixon screwing around with his secret plan that was total idiocy. The GOP as the dumbest voters in the modern world by far and now totally misinformed. A a r r g g h h. And like I said Jay Edgar Hoover and Nixon had agent provocateurs and God knows what a disgrace. The GOP is the swamp since Nixon.

I know you do not want to bring up the history of the political parties. Slavery? Democrats. The fight against womens rights? Democrats. Internment and mistreatment of american citizens in WW2 based on their country of origin? Democrats. Fight against civil rights? Mostly democrats. Party that founded the KKK? Yep you guessed it Democrats Those protesters be fine if they were protesting the war and the politicians. But they were not they were Protesting directly to American soldiers who had nothing to do with why we were at war or the reason we lost it.
Basically every reason the Democrats give for hating American was done by THEM.

That's a huge oversimplification. both parties used to have both liberal and conservative wings. Since Nixon the GOP has been the conservatives more and more and the Democrats have been the liberals. Let's talk about today's reality and that of the last 50 years instead of GOP garbage propaganda......

LOL GOP propaganda? How is that possible when 99 percent of the media is Democrat? 90 percent of the education system is Democrat. How they hell are the Republicans spreading their propaganda? Todays reality? The only liberals left are in the GOP all the democrats have are communist/socialist America hating power hungry cocksuckers.

Brainwashed functional morons like you believe anything they are told by Fox Rush online cottage industry liars. Common Sense my butt LOL. The Republican base believes so many conspiracy theories and phony scandals it's ridiculous. Along with pure misinformation like Obama had control for his first two years. Total b*******. The GOP has their disgraceful reconciliation rule so they can pass tax cuts for the rich and cuts in services with 51 votes, which is all they care about. Democrats need 60 votes for reform. Everything you know is wrong dumbass

Obama is a corporatist and he failed miserably in regards to holding execs on Wallstreet accountable....

I'll be right back Obama is a corporate test in the United states? I am shocked shocked LOL. The difference is Democrats are honest and the GOP are lying hypocrite propagandizing scum bags who wreck our economy every time they get 8 years. See the 1920s the 1980s the 2000s and right now if they get another four years....

You’re hilarious. You can’t be real, right? You’re a DNC paid poster. That’s the only explanation for your partisan idiocy.

do you have an argument stupid? What a babbling idiot. Not to worry pretty typical for brainwashed functional moron ignoramuses. These are called facts not garbage propaganda you are used to.