50% to retire poor...

[Blues Man]

Thanks democrats.

It’s really a bipartisan affair.

That is very true. Though, republicans eventually realized that the policy of globalization did not give the promised results and elected someone with a different platform.

Though many of the long term republicans are still loyal to the old failed ideology.

Yes, they elected a globalist to fix globalization. Shocking that it didn't work.

They elected the candidate that wanted to try vs the candidate that wanted to give up on those jobs.


That he has a record of engaging in the very practice that he has promised to address, is a minus, but it still makes vastly more sense to go with the person who is says he will try, vs the one who says she will NOT.


Now, let's see what you have to contribute to the conversation now. Because I have yet to see a lib that can respond to that.

The president can't bring back manufacturing jobs yet Congress can and as long as these corporations have no ties to the US govt. they can do as they please and a large part of corporations are multi-national corporations that can do as they please.

A corporation has no ties to US, we don't have to let them have access to the latest market in the world.

We have power. We have leverage. Let's us it to protect and advance our interests, especially the interests of the American Workers.


Fuck the corporations that want to build products with slave labor and sell it here at a premium.


Whether they are American, international, Chinese, or fucking German or ect.

Then stop using the device you are posting with.

I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the Free Trade status qou.

There is no such animal as free trade....What with tariffs and regulations that abound on trade.

Fair enough. I will adjust.




I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the so called "Free Trade" status qou.

My trade can't be outsourced like when I was an industrial and military electronics tech and electrician.

But, millions of other jobs can. And then they come into your field and bring down your wages.

Also, do you really not give a damn about your friends and family and community who are losing jobs and wages?

I have enough trouble worrying about myself and my wife.

Don't ask me to fix your problems too.

 

[Correll]

Thanks democrats.

It’s really a bipartisan affair.

That is very true. Though, republicans eventually realized that the policy of globalization did not give the promised results and elected someone with a different platform.

Though many of the long term republicans are still loyal to the old failed ideology.

Yes, they elected a globalist to fix globalization. Shocking that it didn't work.

They elected the candidate that wanted to try vs the candidate that wanted to give up on those jobs.


That he has a record of engaging in the very practice that he has promised to address, is a minus, but it still makes vastly more sense to go with the person who is says he will try, vs the one who says she will NOT.


Now, let's see what you have to contribute to the conversation now. Because I have yet to see a lib that can respond to that.

The president can't bring back manufacturing jobs yet Congress can and as long as these corporations have no ties to the US govt. they can do as they please and a large part of corporations are multi-national corporations that can do as they please.

A corporation has no ties to US, we don't have to let them have access to the latest market in the world.

We have power. We have leverage. Let's us it to protect and advance our interests, especially the interests of the American Workers.


Fuck the corporations that want to build products with slave labor and sell it here at a premium.


Whether they are American, international, Chinese, or fucking German or ect.

Then stop using the device you are posting with.

I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the Free Trade status qou.

There is no such animal as free trade....What with tariffs and regulations that abound on trade.

Fair enough. I will adjust.




I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the so called "Free Trade" status qou.

My trade can't be outsourced like when I was an industrial and military electronics tech and electrician.

But, millions of other jobs can. And then they come into your field and bring down your wages.

Also, do you really not give a damn about your friends and family and community who are losing jobs and wages?

I can give a damn but it won't be worth a damn because I am not wealthy or powerful. It is the wealthy that put us in this position, those are people I refuse to support people like Trump who hires the illegals, outsources his production lines and then claims to be a friend to the US worker...

You would rather support someone who is completely sincere and untainted in their being an enemy of the US worker?


That sounds... not good.


Hillary and Biden, they have given up on people like you and me. They think that there is no way we will not get fucked by the economic "Realities" of today, and they think their job is to help US cope with being the world's bitches.


Trump is at least willing to try to fight back. And why the fuck not? If the game is rigged against US, and it is, why are we still playing and playing by their rules?

 

[Correll]

Thanks democrats.

It’s really a bipartisan affair.

That is very true. Though, republicans eventually realized that the policy of globalization did not give the promised results and elected someone with a different platform.

Though many of the long term republicans are still loyal to the old failed ideology.

Yes, they elected a globalist to fix globalization. Shocking that it didn't work.

They elected the candidate that wanted to try vs the candidate that wanted to give up on those jobs.


That he has a record of engaging in the very practice that he has promised to address, is a minus, but it still makes vastly more sense to go with the person who is says he will try, vs the one who says she will NOT.


Now, let's see what you have to contribute to the conversation now. Because I have yet to see a lib that can respond to that.

The president can't bring back manufacturing jobs yet Congress can and as long as these corporations have no ties to the US govt. they can do as they please and a large part of corporations are multi-national corporations that can do as they please.

A corporation has no ties to US, we don't have to let them have access to the latest market in the world.

We have power. We have leverage. Let's us it to protect and advance our interests, especially the interests of the American Workers.


Fuck the corporations that want to build products with slave labor and sell it here at a premium.


Whether they are American, international, Chinese, or fucking German or ect.

Then stop using the device you are posting with.

I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the Free Trade status qou.

There is no such animal as free trade....What with tariffs and regulations that abound on trade.

Fair enough. I will adjust.




I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the so called "Free Trade" status qou.

My trade can't be outsourced like when I was an industrial and military electronics tech and electrician.

But, millions of other jobs can. And then they come into your field and bring down your wages.

Also, do you really not give a damn about your friends and family and community who are losing jobs and wages?

I have enough trouble worrying about myself and my wife.

Don't ask me to fix your problems too.

I'm not asking you to fix my problems. I'm making the case for policy that is pro-jobs and pro-wages.

 

[gipper]

If true, this paints a dismal picture for many Americans. Yet Joe wants to cut social security.

Opinion: Half of Americans over 55 may retire poor
Published: Oct. 5, 2020 at 1:35 p.m. ET
By
Howard Gold
423
COVID-19 job losses, early withdrawals may decimate retirement finances
“Our data is showing that, because of the COVID recession, about 50% of workers over the age of 55 will be poor or near-poor adults when they reach 65,” she said.
How poor is that? “A person who’s 65 will be near-poor or poor if they’re living on less than $20,000 a year,” she told me. “I think we could all agree that means chronic deprivation for the rest of your life.”

This is shocking and although I’ve viewed the retirement situation in the United States as more of a chronic illness than a crisis, this would make it a crisis for millions of Americans. It also would reverse decades of progress toward eliminating poverty among the elderly, from the Social Security Act of 1935 through Medicare in 1965 and beyond. As more people turn 65 and face poverty-stricken retirements, the fiscal and political implications could be enormous.

Half of Americans over 55 may retire poor

That was then, this is now; we should raise the minimum wage to generate more tax revenue.

Really? You think raising the MW will generate tax revenue. What? I doubt it raises revenues it in any significant way.

Though I’m not opposed to raising to help workers.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Barry the Magnificent lost 3.5 million manufacturing jobs and then said "they are never coming back"
The Dems are destroying the middle class.

 

[danielpalos]

Thanks democrats.

It’s really a bipartisan affair.

That is very true. Though, republicans eventually realized that the policy of globalization did not give the promised results and elected someone with a different platform.

Though many of the long term republicans are still loyal to the old failed ideology.

Yes, they elected a globalist to fix globalization. Shocking that it didn't work.

They elected the candidate that wanted to try vs the candidate that wanted to give up on those jobs.


That he has a record of engaging in the very practice that he has promised to address, is a minus, but it still makes vastly more sense to go with the person who is says he will try, vs the one who says she will NOT.


Now, let's see what you have to contribute to the conversation now. Because I have yet to see a lib that can respond to that.

The president can't bring back manufacturing jobs yet Congress can and as long as these corporations have no ties to the US govt. they can do as they please and a large part of corporations are multi-national corporations that can do as they please.

A corporation has no ties to US, we don't have to let them have access to the latest market in the world.

We have power. We have leverage. Let's us it to protect and advance our interests, especially the interests of the American Workers.


Fuck the corporations that want to build products with slave labor and sell it here at a premium.


Whether they are American, international, Chinese, or fucking German or ect.

Then stop using the device you are posting with.

I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the Free Trade status qou.

There is no such animal as free trade....What with tariffs and regulations that abound on trade.

Fair enough. I will adjust.




I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the so called "Free Trade" status qou.

My trade can't be outsourced like when I was an industrial and military electronics tech and electrician.

But, millions of other jobs can. And then they come into your field and bring down your wages.

Also, do you really not give a damn about your friends and family and community who are losing jobs and wages?

And you claim you are not for socialism? Capitalism is all about boom and bust and the inequality that goes with it.

Government not free market economics is Socialism. We need public policies that provide automatic (for free market purposes) stabilization to our economy.

 

[danielpalos]

I can give a damn but it won't be worth a damn because I am not wealthy or powerful. It is the wealthy that put us in this position, those are people I refuse to support people like Trump who hires the illegals, outsources his production lines and then claims to be a friend to the US worker...

Since business, needs room to maneuver, wouldn't you agree that public policies should include social safety nets that can catch persons and keep them from poverty via automatic stabilization?

 

[danielpalos]

I have enough trouble worrying about myself and my wife.

Don't ask me to fix your problems too.

Is that why we need career politicians?

 

[danielpalos]

Thanks democrats.

It’s really a bipartisan affair.

That is very true. Though, republicans eventually realized that the policy of globalization did not give the promised results and elected someone with a different platform.

Though many of the long term republicans are still loyal to the old failed ideology.

Yes, they elected a globalist to fix globalization. Shocking that it didn't work.

They elected the candidate that wanted to try vs the candidate that wanted to give up on those jobs.


That he has a record of engaging in the very practice that he has promised to address, is a minus, but it still makes vastly more sense to go with the person who is says he will try, vs the one who says she will NOT.


Now, let's see what you have to contribute to the conversation now. Because I have yet to see a lib that can respond to that.

The president can't bring back manufacturing jobs yet Congress can and as long as these corporations have no ties to the US govt. they can do as they please and a large part of corporations are multi-national corporations that can do as they please.

A corporation has no ties to US, we don't have to let them have access to the latest market in the world.

We have power. We have leverage. Let's us it to protect and advance our interests, especially the interests of the American Workers.


Fuck the corporations that want to build products with slave labor and sell it here at a premium.


Whether they are American, international, Chinese, or fucking German or ect.

Then stop using the device you are posting with.

I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the Free Trade status qou.

There is no such animal as free trade....What with tariffs and regulations that abound on trade.

Fair enough. I will adjust.




I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the so called "Free Trade" status qou.

My trade can't be outsourced like when I was an industrial and military electronics tech and electrician.

But, millions of other jobs can. And then they come into your field and bring down your wages.

Also, do you really not give a damn about your friends and family and community who are losing jobs and wages?

I can give a damn but it won't be worth a damn because I am not wealthy or powerful. It is the wealthy that put us in this position, those are people I refuse to support people like Trump who hires the illegals, outsources his production lines and then claims to be a friend to the US worker...

You would rather support someone who is completely sincere and untainted in their being an enemy of the US worker?


That sounds... not good.


Hillary and Biden, they have given up on people like you and me. They think that there is no way we will not get fucked by the economic "Realities" of today, and they think their job is to help US cope with being the world's bitches.


Trump is at least willing to try to fight back. And why the fuck not? If the game is rigged against US, and it is, why are we still playing and playing by their rules?

Sure, that is why the democrats are for raising the minimum wage and healthcare reform, unlike the right wing.

 

[danielpalos]

If true, this paints a dismal picture for many Americans. Yet Joe wants to cut social security.

Opinion: Half of Americans over 55 may retire poor
Published: Oct. 5, 2020 at 1:35 p.m. ET
By
Howard Gold
423
COVID-19 job losses, early withdrawals may decimate retirement finances
“Our data is showing that, because of the COVID recession, about 50% of workers over the age of 55 will be poor or near-poor adults when they reach 65,” she said.
How poor is that? “A person who’s 65 will be near-poor or poor if they’re living on less than $20,000 a year,” she told me. “I think we could all agree that means chronic deprivation for the rest of your life.”

This is shocking and although I’ve viewed the retirement situation in the United States as more of a chronic illness than a crisis, this would make it a crisis for millions of Americans. It also would reverse decades of progress toward eliminating poverty among the elderly, from the Social Security Act of 1935 through Medicare in 1965 and beyond. As more people turn 65 and face poverty-stricken retirements, the fiscal and political implications could be enormous.

Half of Americans over 55 may retire poor

That was then, this is now; we should raise the minimum wage to generate more tax revenue.

Really? You think raising the MW will generate tax revenue. What? I doubt it raises revenues it in any significant way.

Though I’m not opposed to raising to help workers.

You can look up for yourself how much more federal income tax revenue can be generated from raising the minimum wage versus the current minimum we have now.

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[danielpalos]

Barry the Magnificent lost 3.5 million manufacturing jobs and then said "they are never coming back"
The Dems are destroying the middle class.

Republicans had nothing but repeal for all of those "shovel ready" infrastructure jobs that would helped the middle class.

 

[Correll]

Thanks democrats.

It’s really a bipartisan affair.

That is very true. Though, republicans eventually realized that the policy of globalization did not give the promised results and elected someone with a different platform.

Though many of the long term republicans are still loyal to the old failed ideology.

Yes, they elected a globalist to fix globalization. Shocking that it didn't work.

They elected the candidate that wanted to try vs the candidate that wanted to give up on those jobs.


That he has a record of engaging in the very practice that he has promised to address, is a minus, but it still makes vastly more sense to go with the person who is says he will try, vs the one who says she will NOT.


Now, let's see what you have to contribute to the conversation now. Because I have yet to see a lib that can respond to that.

The president can't bring back manufacturing jobs yet Congress can and as long as these corporations have no ties to the US govt. they can do as they please and a large part of corporations are multi-national corporations that can do as they please.

A corporation has no ties to US, we don't have to let them have access to the latest market in the world.

We have power. We have leverage. Let's us it to protect and advance our interests, especially the interests of the American Workers.


Fuck the corporations that want to build products with slave labor and sell it here at a premium.


Whether they are American, international, Chinese, or fucking German or ect.

Then stop using the device you are posting with.

I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the Free Trade status qou.

There is no such animal as free trade....What with tariffs and regulations that abound on trade.

Fair enough. I will adjust.




I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the so called "Free Trade" status qou.

My trade can't be outsourced like when I was an industrial and military electronics tech and electrician.

But, millions of other jobs can. And then they come into your field and bring down your wages.

Also, do you really not give a damn about your friends and family and community who are losing jobs and wages?

And you claim you are not for socialism? Capitalism is all about boom and bust and the inequality that goes with it.

Government not free market economics is Socialism. We need public policies that provide automatic (for free market purposes) stabilization to our economy.

Your pretense that Capitalism is only pure unrestrained Capitalism, and everything else is "socialism"

is you being dishonest.


You are dishonest, because you know that your position is bullshit and that you are trying to trick people into supporting policies that you know are bad for them and the country.

 

[Correll]

Thanks democrats.

It’s really a bipartisan affair.

That is very true. Though, republicans eventually realized that the policy of globalization did not give the promised results and elected someone with a different platform.

Though many of the long term republicans are still loyal to the old failed ideology.

Yes, they elected a globalist to fix globalization. Shocking that it didn't work.

They elected the candidate that wanted to try vs the candidate that wanted to give up on those jobs.


That he has a record of engaging in the very practice that he has promised to address, is a minus, but it still makes vastly more sense to go with the person who is says he will try, vs the one who says she will NOT.


Now, let's see what you have to contribute to the conversation now. Because I have yet to see a lib that can respond to that.

The president can't bring back manufacturing jobs yet Congress can and as long as these corporations have no ties to the US govt. they can do as they please and a large part of corporations are multi-national corporations that can do as they please.

A corporation has no ties to US, we don't have to let them have access to the latest market in the world.

We have power. We have leverage. Let's us it to protect and advance our interests, especially the interests of the American Workers.


Fuck the corporations that want to build products with slave labor and sell it here at a premium.


Whether they are American, international, Chinese, or fucking German or ect.

Then stop using the device you are posting with.

I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the Free Trade status qou.

There is no such animal as free trade....What with tariffs and regulations that abound on trade.

Fair enough. I will adjust.




I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the so called "Free Trade" status qou.

My trade can't be outsourced like when I was an industrial and military electronics tech and electrician.

But, millions of other jobs can. And then they come into your field and bring down your wages.

Also, do you really not give a damn about your friends and family and community who are losing jobs and wages?

I can give a damn but it won't be worth a damn because I am not wealthy or powerful. It is the wealthy that put us in this position, those are people I refuse to support people like Trump who hires the illegals, outsources his production lines and then claims to be a friend to the US worker...

You would rather support someone who is completely sincere and untainted in their being an enemy of the US worker?


That sounds... not good.


Hillary and Biden, they have given up on people like you and me. They think that there is no way we will not get fucked by the economic "Realities" of today, and they think their job is to help US cope with being the world's bitches.


Trump is at least willing to try to fight back. And why the fuck not? If the game is rigged against US, and it is, why are we still playing and playing by their rules?

Sure, that is why the democrats are for raising the minimum wage and healthcare reform, unlike the right wing.

Yes. Republicans want to grow the economy so that wages rise naturally to higher and higher levels, while dems want command economics that ensure power and wealth for them, and eternal poverty and dependence for everyone else.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Thanks democrats.

It’s really a bipartisan affair.

That is very true. Though, republicans eventually realized that the policy of globalization did not give the promised results and elected someone with a different platform.

Though many of the long term republicans are still loyal to the old failed ideology.

Yes, they elected a globalist to fix globalization. Shocking that it didn't work.

They elected the candidate that wanted to try vs the candidate that wanted to give up on those jobs.


That he has a record of engaging in the very practice that he has promised to address, is a minus, but it still makes vastly more sense to go with the person who is says he will try, vs the one who says she will NOT.


Now, let's see what you have to contribute to the conversation now. Because I have yet to see a lib that can respond to that.

The president can't bring back manufacturing jobs yet Congress can and as long as these corporations have no ties to the US govt. they can do as they please and a large part of corporations are multi-national corporations that can do as they please.

A corporation has no ties to US, we don't have to let them have access to the latest market in the world.

We have power. We have leverage. Let's us it to protect and advance our interests, especially the interests of the American Workers.


Fuck the corporations that want to build products with slave labor and sell it here at a premium.


Whether they are American, international, Chinese, or fucking German or ect.

Then stop using the device you are posting with.

I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the Free Trade status qou.

There is no such animal as free trade....What with tariffs and regulations that abound on trade.

Fair enough. I will adjust.




I would rather support policy that brings as much production back here, as reasonable possible.


you do support that, right? You are a working man, I believe.


Jobs and wages. That won't happen if we keep the so called "Free Trade" status qou.

My trade of mason can't be outsourced like when I was an industrial and military electronics tech and electrician. The wealthy have let the illegals take over much of the construction trades yet I am an independent operator that works for average citizens that appreciate English speaking white folks that fix their problems. I am all for bring back industries to the US but they will have to be heavily subsidized or socialized. Why, because that's how they are beating us via outsourcing to nations that have figured out how to beat the USA.

It can be taken over by immigrants that will work for far less than you.

 

[danielpalos]

Your pretense that Capitalism is only pure unrestrained Capitalism, and everything else is "socialism"

is you being dishonest.


You are dishonest, because you know that your position is bullshit and that you are trying to trick people into supporting policies that you know are bad for them and the country.

You are being more dishonest. Somalia had true anarcho-Capitalism, for a little while. Any Government command and control of Capitalism is socialism and that form of slippery social slope.

 

[danielpalos]

Yes. Republicans want to grow the economy so that wages rise naturally to higher and higher levels, while dems want command economics that ensure power and wealth for them, and eternal poverty and dependence for everyone else.

Since when? Right wingers only grow the deficit not the economy or why else have wages not kept up with inflation under the Republicans? The last time wages outpaced inflation was when Clinton was President.

 

[danielpalos]

It can be taken over by immigrants that will work for far less than you.

Raising the minimum wage helps solve for that.

 

[my2¢]

Trump announced his plan to defund Social Security. What's his plan to fund it?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Your pretense that Capitalism is only pure unrestrained Capitalism, and everything else is "socialism"

is you being dishonest.


You are dishonest, because you know that your position is bullshit and that you are trying to trick people into supporting policies that you know are bad for them and the country.

You are being more dishonest. Somalia had true anarcho-Capitalism, for a little while. Any Government command and control of Capitalism is socialism and that form of slippery social slope.

You're really comparing somalia to The United States Of America?

 

[Flash]

If true, this paints a dismal picture for many Americans. Yet Joe wants to cut social security.

Opinion: Half of Americans over 55 may retire poor
Published: Oct. 5, 2020 at 1:35 p.m. ET
By
Howard Gold
423
COVID-19 job losses, early withdrawals may decimate retirement finances
“Our data is showing that, because of the COVID recession, about 50% of workers over the age of 55 will be poor or near-poor adults when they reach 65,” she said.
How poor is that? “A person who’s 65 will be near-poor or poor if they’re living on less than $20,000 a year,” she told me. “I think we could all agree that means chronic deprivation for the rest of your life.”

This is shocking and although I’ve viewed the retirement situation in the United States as more of a chronic illness than a crisis, this would make it a crisis for millions of Americans. It also would reverse decades of progress toward eliminating poverty among the elderly, from the Social Security Act of 1935 through Medicare in 1965 and beyond. As more people turn 65 and face poverty-stricken retirements, the fiscal and political implications could be enormous.

Half of Americans over 55 may retire poor

Outsourcing to Communist China has consequences. They go well beyond just this, but, expansion of poverty is certainly one of them

Well Hunter Biden needed the money to pay of his cocaine dealer so the Obama/Biden Administration allowed terrible trade deals with China and let a lot of technology transfer go on.