42 million Americans will be starving starting November.

[Luckyone]

Has anyone died of starvation yet?

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so suffering hunger and not having any hope of things getting better is better than dying?

You are one heartless soul.

I do not believe that God will forgive your soul when you die!

You are all about:

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If the shutdown continues beyond next week we will find out how many people actually die of starvation

How many do you predict?

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The children first.

The welfare queens can all live for a year off their own fat.

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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

AI Overview

Many Americans need welfare due to economic hardship stemming from low wages, a lack of savings, and unexpected life events like disability or unemployment. The structure of assistance programs, such as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) and Medicaid, provides a vital social safety net for those unable to meet basic needs for food, housing, and healthcare. Welfare is often a necessity for individuals and families to survive and can provide a foundation for pursuing education and better opportunities.

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GIGO





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[Maxdeath]

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GIGO





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You have to assume that a part of those under economic hardship are those that do not want a job, those that have children that use them as an excuse not to work, and those that do not have a tax number and report no money even though they work under the table.
Then you have those that work only part time jobs. Because anything else would be way too much.

 

[struth]

so suffering hunger and not having any hope of things getting better is better than dying?

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You are one heartless soul.

I do not believe that God will forgive your soul when you die!

You are all about:

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Yet, it's the dems that have shut the Govt down....

Are conservatives more charitable than liberals in the U.S.? A meta-analysis of political ideology and charitable giving​

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0049089X21000752

Abstract​

Political ideology not only influences political activities, but also apolitical fields such as charitable giving. However, empirical studies regarding political ideology and charitable giving have yielded mixed results. To find out the effect size and explain the variation in effect sizes, we deploy a meta-analysis to estimate the average effect size and examine the potential moderators from four perspectives. Following scientific data collection and coding procedures, we identify 421 effect sizes from 31 empirical studies. Our meta-analysis results suggest that political conservatives are significantly more charitable than liberals at an overall level,

 

[Luckyone]

You have to assume that a part of those under economic hardship are those that do not want a job, those that have children that use them as an excuse not to work, and those that do not have a tax number and report no money even though they work under the table.
Then you have those that work only part time jobs. Because anything else would be way too much.

I do not doubt that some of those are all of that but the reality is that MOST are not.

It is unfair to harm those that need it in order to take it away from those that don't.

One thing that you Trump supporter Republicans refuse to see/understand is that humans are fallible (by nature), meaning that you can always find wrongs and rights in everything. NO ONE is perfect. To expect and demand perfection is pure ignorance and stupidity. It's like ourselves, our spouses, our children etc. We need to ignore and forgive the negatives and enjoy the positives. What we need to do is find those that have more positives than negatives but we all should know that nothing will ever be perfect.

This means that even though you will find that some of the people will take advantage of welfare, food stamps, etc., most need it. As such, we need to support it rather than criticize it because otherwise we are just hurting our nation, instead of helping it!

If you can't see something as simple as reality, you need to be in an insane asylum and under lock and key!

 

[my2¢]

Our meta-analysis results suggest that political conservatives are significantly more charitable than liberals at an overall level,

A scan of that article had my head spinning with its "Meta-analysis can be defined as a quantitative method of synthesizing empirical research results in the form of effect sizes” and "The 421 effect sizes ranged from −0.441 to 0.535, with an unweighted mean of 0.009 and a standard deviation of 0.105."

I definitely should have looked no further than your abstract.

My longtime non-egghead conclusion also figured the Republicans as being more charitable. That's mostly based on belief that Democrats in general are younger with less disposable income. Another factor that tilts results Republicans way probably is their higher percentage of church membership.

 

[Maxdeath]

I do not doubt that some of those are all of that but the reality is that MOST are not.

It is unfair to harm those that need it in order to take it away from those that don't.

One thing that you Trump supporter Republicans refuse to see/understand is that humans are fallible (by nature), meaning that you can always find wrongs and rights in everything. NO ONE is perfect. To expect and demand perfection is pure ignorance and stupidity. It's like ourselves, our spouses, our children etc. We need to ignore and forgive the negatives and enjoy the positives. What we need to do is find those that have more positives than negatives but we all should know that nothing will ever be perfect.

This means that even though you will find that some of the people will take advantage of welfare, food stamps, etc., most need it. As such, we need to support it rather than criticize it because otherwise we are just hurting our nation, instead of helping it!

If you can't see something as simple as reality, you need to be in an insane asylum and under lock and key!

As usual you show that you lie and do not understand simple concepts.
I have repeatedly told you I am not republican nor do I support Trump. But you feel a need to lie about it.
Yes there are those that need help, not all are afraid to work or are gaming the system. But until the democrats decide to get their heads out of their ass and stop using those that need help hostage we are stuck with a problem.
The democrats believe that if they do enough harm to the Americans they claim to want to help the republicans will fold. The only problem is first off they needed to stop throwing money at a problem instead of trying to fix it. They want to include financing things that we should not be financing. I know a lot of democrats want to believe that we can just add trillions of dollars to our debt and not have to worry about it. But eventually it will harm America and its people more then anything the incompetent democrats could ever hope for on their own.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Maxdeath

I do not doubt that some of those are all of that but the reality is that MOST are not.

It is unfair to harm those that need it in order to take it away from those that don't.

One thing that you Trump supporter Republicans refuse to see/understand is that humans are fallible (by nature), meaning that you can always find wrongs and rights in everything. NO ONE is perfect. To expect and demand perfection is pure ignorance and stupidity. It's like ourselves, our spouses, our children etc. We need to ignore and forgive the negatives and enjoy the positives. What we need to do is find those that have more positives than negatives but we all should know that nothing will ever be perfect.

This means that even though you will find that some of the people will take advantage of welfare, food stamps, etc., most need it. As such, we need to support it rather than criticize it because otherwise we are just hurting our nation, instead of helping it!

If you can't see something as simple as reality, you need to be in an insane asylum and under lock and key!

Republicans and Democrats have different ways of defining what it neans to be charitable.

Charity is personal for Repubs. We like giving as much as we can to trustworthy organizations that help the truly needy. Even better is to directly provide the benefits such as volunteering at a soup kitchen four or four habitat for humanity.Isn't it.

Democrats' charitable impulses are satisfied by supporting a government that takes money from people, regardless of need and gives money out to people regardless of need. because of their taxes on people such as waitresses and minimum wage workers. There is a significant group of people with overlap, i.e, they both pay taxes and right.Receive tax fund it benefits.

Therefore, Democrats view themselves as the most charitable of all. Because they oppose all tax cuts and oppose all cuts to benefits.

 

[struth]

Maxdeath

Republicans and Democrats have different ways of defining what it neans to be charitable.

Charity is personal for Repubs. We like giving as much as we can to trustworthy organizations that help the truly needy. Even better is to directly provide the benefits such as volunteering at a soup kitchen four or four habitat for humanity.Isn't it.

Democrats' charitable impulses are satisfied by supporting a government that takes money from people, regardless of need and gives money out to people regardless of need. because of their taxes on people such as waitresses and minimum wage workers. There is a significant group of people with overlap, i.e, they both pay taxes and right.Receive tax fund it benefits.

Therefore, Democrats view themselves as the most charitable of all. Because they oppose all tax cuts and oppose all cuts to benefits.

Let's be clear, Dems impulses are satisified by taking other people's money to support the Govt. See the Xiden tax cheats as an example, or how dembots always whine about other people not paying their "fair share" - they never give more

 

[Luckyone]

As usual you show that you lie and do not understand simple concepts.
I have repeatedly told you I am not republican nor do I support Trump. But you feel a need to lie about it.
Yes there are those that need help, not all are afraid to work or are gaming the system. But until the democrats decide to get their heads out of their ass and stop using those that need help hostage we are stuck with a problem.
The democrats believe that if they do enough harm to the Americans they claim to want to help the republicans will fold. The only problem is first off they needed to stop throwing money at a problem instead of trying to fix it. They want to include financing things that we should not be financing. I know a lot of democrats want to believe that we can just add trillions of dollars to our debt and not have to worry about it. But eventually it will harm America and its people more then anything the incompetent democrats could ever hope for on their own.

I am not a Democrat and I do understand that there are extremes on the party and that those extremes are bad. Nonetheless, the extreme left is not in control of the party and much of your complaint is not appropriate to reality. On the other side of the coin, the extreme right is in control of the party and they are using the extreme left to put the entire party down.

Your entire story about the Democrat spending (compared to Republican spending) is based on biased lies by the right.

Here is reality and you should learn to debate using data, statistics and facts

Democrats vs. Republicans: Who Had More National Debt?​

• The national debt passed the $36 trillion threshold in November for the first time ever, as the combined debt held by the U.S. public and the federal government grows.
• Republican presidents have added slightly more to the national debt per term than Democratic presidents, according to inflation-adjusted data from the U.S. Treasury Department and the Bureau of Labor Statistics dating back to 1913.
• Looking at U.S. presidents since 1913, Republican presidents added about $1.4 trillion per four-year term, compared to $1.2 trillion added by Democrats.

and here is another FACT that you are not considering

The facts not only do not support your words but they are what makes you not believable and a biased person.

You say you are not in favor of Trump? Well, normally these days one is in favor of him or against him (few people are undecided), but you certainly are biased against the Democrats, so either you are simply a fool or a Trump ass kisser, it is difficult to ascertain, but neither is complementary to who you are!

 

[Luckyone]

Maxdeath

Republicans and Democrats have different ways of defining what it neans to be charitable.

Charity is personal for Repubs. We like giving as much as we can to trustworthy organizations that help the truly needy. Even better is to directly provide the benefits such as volunteering at a soup kitchen four or four habitat for humanity.Isn't it.

Democrats' charitable impulses are satisfied by supporting a government that takes money from people, regardless of need and gives money out to people regardless of need. because of their taxes on people such as waitresses and minimum wage workers. There is a significant group of people with overlap, i.e, they both pay taxes and right.Receive tax fund it benefits.

Therefore, Democrats view themselves as the most charitable of all. Because they oppose all tax cuts and oppose all cuts to benefits.

Like I have stated a million times before............nothing and no one is perfect. Bottom line is that the ideologies between the Republicans and the Democrats are totally opposite. The Republicans are for the person and the Democrats are for the group. Both ideologies have good things in them but both extremes of that are bad. The extreme right is in control and that is very bad.

This is why compromise between both ideologies is so important because it brings all the good things both sides have and merges them together to make something even better. The problem right now (which has existed now for 16 years, but has been taken to even more of an extreme by Trump) is that Trump has brought disunity to the nation. Obama tried to unify the nation and Biden not so much, but he was not seeking revenge and retribution and was willing to work with the Republicans. As such, both extremes are in play right now as the extreme right (under Trump) brought about this idea of "my way or the highway" and it made the Democrats go to the same extreme.

As such, the lack of compromise has been around for 16 years but the extremes of that were brought into play by Trump.

It really is a simple as that.

Reality is that Trump is now in CONTROL and he is the one that needs to do something to repair this problem. You cannot be blaming the Democrats given that other than "giving up", which is not going to happen or be a good solution, the situation will remain in the way it is now.

It is TRUMP'S FAULT! He is in charge and as such, everything that happens falls on his lap!

 

[Luckyone]

I am not a Democrat and I do understand that there are extremes on the party and that those extremes are bad. Nonetheless, the extreme left is not in control of the party and much of your complaint is not appropriate to reality. On the other side of the coin, the extreme right is in control of the party and they are using the extreme left to put the entire party down.

Your entire story about the Democrat spending (compared to Republican spending) is based on biased lies by the right.

Here is reality and you should learn to debate using data, statistics and facts

Democrats vs. Republicans: Who Had More National Debt?​

• The national debt passed the $36 trillion threshold in November for the first time ever, as the combined debt held by the U.S. public and the federal government grows.
• Republican presidents have added slightly more to the national debt per term than Democratic presidents, according to inflation-adjusted data from the U.S. Treasury Department and the Bureau of Labor Statistics dating back to 1913.
• Looking at U.S. presidents since 1913, Republican presidents added about $1.4 trillion per four-year term, compared to $1.2 trillion added by Democrats.

and here is another FACT that you are not considering

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The facts not only do not support your words but they are what makes you not believable and a biased person.

You say you are not in favor of Trump? Well, normally these days one is in favor of him or against him (few people are undecided), but you certainly are biased against the Democrats, so either you are simply a fool or a Trump ass kisser, it is difficult to ascertain, but neither is complementary to who you are!

Maxdeath Of course you would call facts "Fake News", it is what any biased person will say when facts are against him.

You are truly pitiful!

 

[Maxdeath]

I am not a Democrat and I do understand that there are extremes on the party and that those extremes are bad. Nonetheless, the extreme left is not in control of the party and much of your complaint is not appropriate to reality. On the other side of the coin, the extreme right is in control of the party and they are using the extreme left to put the entire party down.

Your entire story about the Democrat spending (compared to Republican spending) is based on biased lies by the right.

Here is reality and you should learn to debate using data, statistics and facts

Democrats vs. Republicans: Who Had More National Debt?​

• The national debt passed the $36 trillion threshold in November for the first time ever, as the combined debt held by the U.S. public and the federal government grows.
• Republican presidents have added slightly more to the national debt per term than Democratic presidents, according to inflation-adjusted data from the U.S. Treasury Department and the Bureau of Labor Statistics dating back to 1913.
• Looking at U.S. presidents since 1913, Republican presidents added about $1.4 trillion per four-year term, compared to $1.2 trillion added by Democrats.

and here is another FACT that you are not considering

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The facts not only do not support your words but they are what makes you not believable and a biased person.

You say you are not in favor of Trump? Well, normally these days one is in favor of him or against him (few people are undecided), but you certainly are biased against the Democrats, so either you are simply a fool or a Trump ass kisser, it is difficult to ascertain, but neither is complementary to who you are!

You claim not to be a democrat but you hug their party and try to deflect from them being blamed.
I have always had respect for whoever was voted into the office of president. I had respect for Obama, the Bushes, even Biden. Have to admit that I was not convinced that he was actually acting as the true president.
Yes I have very little respect for the left. Why because of AOC and her cult, Bernie with his the millionaires have too much money then he became a millionaire and now it is Trillionaires. Pelosi and her group claiming everyone not in their cult are Nazis. Clinton and all her bull and her husband being what he was, plus they sold pardons to enrich their little slush fund. I could go on and on.
Unlike your biased little meme I will show you another little something to learn from. Are Republicans Bigger Spenders Than Democrats?.
Possibly you remember that Americas credit rating was down graded under Obama?
But hey you pretend that you have a clue all you want. But I do not tell others to have four credit cards, three to max out and the fourth to pay the minimum payment on the others. I know that we can not continue to throw money at bad ideas. We can not throw money at bad ideas. But you want to believe that you have a better idea in throwing money at bad programs shows you are not living in reality

 

[WEATHER53]

AI Overview

If programs like SNAP and welfare were eliminated, the US would likely face a severe increase in poverty and food insecurity, with devastating consequences for millions of families and negative ripple effects on the economy. The most immediate impacts would include a public health crisis from widespread hunger, which is linked to negative health outcomes like poor mental and physical health. Economically, the removal of this spending power would harm local businesses and grocers, potentially leading to job losses and a decrease in overall consumer spending.

My own intelligence got me to double millionaire status and growing every day
You all avoid the implementation of intelligence as if a plague

 

[Seymour Flops]

Like I have stated a million times before............nothing and no one is perfect. Bottom line is that the ideologies between the Republicans and the Democrats are totally opposite. The Republicans are for the person and the Democrats are for the group. Both ideologies have good things in them but both extremes of that are bad. The extreme right is in control and that is very bad.

This is why compromise between both ideologies is so important because it brings all the good things both sides have and merges them together to make something even better. The problem right now (which has existed now for 16 years, but has been taken to even more of an extreme by Trump) is that Trump has brought disunity to the nation. Obama tried to unify the nation and Biden not so much, but he was not seeking revenge and retribution and was willing to work with the Republicans. As such, both extremes are in play right now as the extreme right (under Trump) brought about this idea of "my way or the highway" and it made the Democrats go to the same extreme.

As such, the lack of compromise has been around for 16 years but the extremes of that were brought into play by Trump.

It really is a simple as that.

Reality is that Trump is now in CONTROL and he is the one that needs to do something to repair this problem. You cannot be blaming the Democrats given that other than "giving up", which is not going to happen or be a good solution, the situation will remain in the way it is now.

It is TRUMP'S FAULT! He is in charge and as such, everything that happens falls on his lap!

Thanks for the word salad,but I stopped reading at the post in which you said "I am not a Democrat."

If you lie about that, then you know that current Democrat actions are indefensible but you don't want to admit it.

 

[struth]

Like I have stated a million times before............nothing and no one is perfect. Bottom line is that the ideologies between the Republicans and the Democrats are totally opposite. The Republicans are for the person and the Democrats are for the group. Both ideologies have good things in them but both extremes of that are bad. The extreme right is in control and that is very bad.

This is why compromise between both ideologies is so important because it brings all the good things both sides have and merges them together to make something even better. The problem right now (which has existed now for 16 years, but has been taken to even more of an extreme by Trump) is that Trump has brought disunity to the nation. Obama tried to unify the nation and Biden not so much, but he was not seeking revenge and retribution and was willing to work with the Republicans. As such, both extremes are in play right now as the extreme right (under Trump) brought about this idea of "my way or the highway" and it made the Democrats go to the same extreme.

As such, the lack of compromise has been around for 16 years but the extremes of that were brought into play by Trump.

It really is a simple as that.

Reality is that Trump is now in CONTROL and he is the one that needs to do something to repair this problem. You cannot be blaming the Democrats given that other than "giving up", which is not going to happen or be a good solution, the situation will remain in the way it is now.

It is TRUMP'S FAULT! He is in charge and as such, everything that happens falls on his lap!

You are right, the demafacist have adopted a ideology about their group, over people. Party over people....just like the national socialist and yes that is completly at odds with Conservative principals and the American way of life

 

[Luckyone]

Thanks for the word salad,but I stopped reading at the post in which you said "I am not a Democrat."

If you lie about that, then you know that current Democrat actions are indefensible but you don't want to admit it.

You are so biased that all you see are biases.

I am NOT a Democrat. I am not all that interested in political issues.

Nonetheless, you are so biased that you believe what you want to believe. If you take a look at all my OP's, you will notice that 95% of them are Anti-Trump (and his supporters) and not Anti-Republican issues. On everything I write, I am a moderate that walks the middle road.

Having said that, you are convinced of something that is staring you in the face of being wrong, and that goes to show that nothing that is said by anyone that is not 100% of the same belief as you, you accuse them of being a Democrat.

I will say one thing about you. You are totally convincing when proving that you are not worth spending one additional minute debating with you from now on. I am now 100% convinced that you belong on the ignore list!

You are now on ignore! You have "flop"ped for the last time with me.

 

[Luckyone]

My own intelligence got me to double millionaire status and growing every day
You all avoid the implementation of intelligence as if a plague

again. all words and no proof. You call that "implementation of intelligence"? Hahaha, you continue to prove the opposite!

 

[WEATHER53]

again. all words and no proof. You call that "implementation of intelligence"? Hahaha, you continue to prove the opposite!

The stated word never has to be proved
This is Not prove yourself innocent
So if you have any countering info then present it