4.9% UE, 5% income growth, pump prices going lower

[gipper]

You are the one who flunked out of your doctoral program in economics. Or was that your sock, econchick?

You literally have no clue about these matters.

Uncle says we only count people actively looking for work. Dupes then accept the gov's unemployment number. All those Americans who gave up, well fuck them.

If you can stop looking, your need for a job must not have been very great.

gipper and sassy won't get it.

We logically don't believe a lying government. You chose to believe liars, as long as a D is in charge.

So, show a specific lie from any of the government statistics.

Good point. The gov makes up a bull shit statistic that doesn't count millions of Americans and you guys think that is just fine.

 

[Brain357]

Save it, once again you're trying to talk about something you're clueless about. Have a great day

You are the one who flunked out of your doctoral program in economics. Or was that your sock, econchick?

You literally have no clue about these matters.

Uncle says we only count people actively looking for work. Dupes then accept the gov's unemployment number. All those Americans who gave up, well fuck them.

If you can stop looking, your need for a job must not have been very great.

gipper and sassy won't get it.

We logically don't believe a lying government. You chose to believe liars, as long as a D is in charge.

So you use imaginary statistics?

 

[Brain357]

Uncle says we only count people actively looking for work. Dupes then accept the gov's unemployment number. All those Americans who gave up, well fuck them.

If you can stop looking, your need for a job must not have been very great.

gipper and sassy won't get it.

We logically don't believe a lying government. You chose to believe liars, as long as a D is in charge.

So, show a specific lie from any of the government statistics.

Good point. The gov makes up a bull shit statistic that doesn't count millions of Americans and you guys think that is just fine.

Where are you getting these millions from? What statistic?

 

[Brain357]

"Almost all of the decline that we've seen over the last decade or so is due to three factors: retiring baby boomers just leaving the labor force, college students getting more education than ever and disability," Andrew Chamberlain, chief economist at job placement site Glassdoor, said in an interview. "I don't think it's particularly worrisome."

 

[bendog]

"Almost all of the decline that we've seen over the last decade or so is due to three factors: retiring baby boomers just leaving the labor force, college students getting more education than ever and disability," Andrew Chamberlain, chief economist at job placement site Glassdoor, said in an interview. "I don't think it's particularly worrisome."

Imo, gipper is illustrative as a whole, although he's a trumpeter, and reason doesn't not apply in his case. But, a large maj say we're on the wrong road. Economically, that's not really true for the maj. Home prices are rising slightly, wages are rising slightly, employment for those with degrees is solid .......

The millenials have not made up ground, and they really won't ever, at least in terms of how careers really work. There were few new jobs for them in fields they'd trained. No one is hiring a guy who waited tables for 4 years when they can get a sparkly new college grad. I'm not whining for them. I drove a truck for 3 years before going back to school to morph into a new grad.

But still a maj are uneasy. Look at Europe. Hillary's claim was she was the adult. Well, she's hid any emails going to her foundation. So, she has nothing over Trump.

Maybe she can still sell this thing by showing how we can build intl coalitions to finish Isis and solve the refugee thing. But if you ask people "do you trust her or Trump....." you can't trust either. If you ask "do you want change" most are gonna say yes.

 

[mudwhistle]

Things are dire!! We are not at 0% UE, the average annual income is not $100000 per worker, and prices at the pump are not under a dollar. We are doomed!!

Yeah, that's what they naysayers, who have done nothing constructively to improve matters, are telling us.

In context, things are better and they are getting better. Suck on that, Trump.


This is how much gasoline prices could fall in next few weeks

Gas prices here jumped from $1.84 to $2.15/ gal overnight.

 

[Brain357]

"Almost all of the decline that we've seen over the last decade or so is due to three factors: retiring baby boomers just leaving the labor force, college students getting more education than ever and disability," Andrew Chamberlain, chief economist at job placement site Glassdoor, said in an interview. "I don't think it's particularly worrisome."

Imo, gipper is illustrative as a whole, although he's a trumpeter, and reason doesn't not apply in his case. But, a large maj say we're on the wrong road. Economically, that's not really true for the maj. Home prices are rising slightly, wages are rising slightly, employment for those with degrees is solid .......

The millenials have not made up ground, and they really won't ever, at least in terms of how careers really work. There were few new jobs for them in fields they'd trained. No one is hiring a guy who waited tables for 4 years when they can get a sparkly new college grad. I'm not whining for them. I drove a truck for 3 years before going back to school to morph into a new grad.

But still a maj are uneasy. Look at Europe. Hillary's claim was she was the adult. Well, she's hid any emails going to her foundation. So, she has nothing over Trump.

Maybe she can still sell this thing by showing how we can build intl coalitions to finish Isis and solve the refugee thing. But if you ask people "do you trust her or Trump....." you can't trust either. If you ask "do you want change" most are gonna say yes.

Most sane people are not too excited about either. But if you look at our economy it is showing a lot of good signs. The mood would be a lot better if republicans weren't constantly saying everything is aweful.

 

[bendog]

"Almost all of the decline that we've seen over the last decade or so is due to three factors: retiring baby boomers just leaving the labor force, college students getting more education than ever and disability," Andrew Chamberlain, chief economist at job placement site Glassdoor, said in an interview. "I don't think it's particularly worrisome."

Imo, gipper is illustrative as a whole, although he's a trumpeter, and reason doesn't not apply in his case. But, a large maj say we're on the wrong road. Economically, that's not really true for the maj. Home prices are rising slightly, wages are rising slightly, employment for those with degrees is solid .......

The millenials have not made up ground, and they really won't ever, at least in terms of how careers really work. There were few new jobs for them in fields they'd trained. No one is hiring a guy who waited tables for 4 years when they can get a sparkly new college grad. I'm not whining for them. I drove a truck for 3 years before going back to school to morph into a new grad.

But still a maj are uneasy. Look at Europe. Hillary's claim was she was the adult. Well, she's hid any emails going to her foundation. So, she has nothing over Trump.

Maybe she can still sell this thing by showing how we can build intl coalitions to finish Isis and solve the refugee thing. But if you ask people "do you trust her or Trump....." you can't trust either. If you ask "do you want change" most are gonna say yes.

Most sane people are not too excited about either. But if you look at our economy it is showing a lot of good signs. The mood would be a lot better if republicans weren't constantly saying everything is aweful.

The economy is not bad for those who are educated and didn't lose terribly to the great recession. But, what I tried to say was that Trump appeals to those who really think we're on the wrong road.

Hillary's email saga is simply that it was just more of the same old political corruption with her Foundation. Trump is not a politician.

It's been months of people telling Hillary just to say, I screwed up and shouldn't have had a private server" and STOP making excuses about why it isn't bad or why she ignored rules. And talk about policy.

maybe too late now.

 

[initforme]

Hope demand keeps dropping and the price of oil keeps declining steadily. Big time.

 

[gipper]

If you can stop looking, your need for a job must not have been very great.

gipper and sassy won't get it.

We logically don't believe a lying government. You chose to believe liars, as long as a D is in charge.

So, show a specific lie from any of the government statistics.

Good point. The gov makes up a bull shit statistic that doesn't count millions of Americans and you guys think that is just fine.

Where are you getting these millions from? What statistic?

In the USA today, we have about 95 million Americans of working age NOT WORKING out of a total population of roughly 320 million. A fucking RECORD number. Are you aware of this stat??? Do you or the others in this thread dispute this number?????

Of course, many are retired, disabled, in college, house wives/husbands, etc. However, millions of these NOT WORKING Americans do not fall into these categories. This proves that the government stat of 5% UE is completely bogus. It does not reflect reality.

The Rise of Men Who Don’t Work, and What They Do Instead

In the late 1960s, almost all men between the ages of 25 and 54 went to work. Only about 5 out of every 100 did not have a job in any given week. By 2000, this figure had more than doubled, to 11 out of every 100 men. This year, it’s 16. (People in the military, prison and institutions are excluded from these figures.)
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/upshot/the-rise-of-men-who-dont-work-and-what-they-do-instead.html

 

[JakeStarkey]

So gipper goes back to the basic number that includes among everything else those who can't work, work part time, retired from work, students, those who don't want to work, and those who do want to work. And the last group is about 5.5 million people.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Things are dire!! We are not at 0% UE, the average annual income is not $100000 per worker, and prices at the pump are not under a dollar. We are doomed!!

Yeah, that's what they naysayers, who have done nothing constructively to improve matters, are telling us.

In context, things are better and they are getting better. Suck on that, Trump.


This is how much gasoline prices could fall in next few weeks

Gas prices here jumped from $1.84 to $2.15/ gal overnight.

We dropped 9 cents overnight.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Things are dire!! We are not at 0% UE, the average annual income is not $100000 per worker, and prices at the pump are not under a dollar. We are doomed!!

Yeah, that's what they naysayers, who have done nothing constructively to improve matters, are telling us.

In context, things are better and they are getting better. Suck on that, Trump.


This is how much gasoline prices could fall in next few weeks

Gas prices here jumped from $1.84 to $2.15/ gal overnight.

We dropped 9 cents overnight.

This morning's news on oil.
US crude settles down 2% at $43.03 a barrel, dragged lower by glut worry

 

[pinqy]

In the USA today, we have about 95 million Americans of working age NOT WORKING out of a total population of roughly 320 million. A fucking RECORD number. Are you aware of this stat??? Do you or the others in this thread dispute this number?????

You've disputed that number when you've said the government lies and that the government numbers are BS.

Of course, many are retired, disabled, in college, house wives/husbands, etc. However, millions of these NOT WORKING Americans do not fall into these categories. This proves that the government stat of 5% UE is completely bogus. It does not reflect reality.

There are 253,854,000 people in the U.S. age 16 and older who are not active duty military, or in prison, or in an institution.
Of those, 151,614,000 are employed (a record high).
7,849,000 are not working and looking for work (unemployed)
Employed plus unemployed are those people doing something about work: people who could/should be working if there were enough jobs for everyone. We call this the Labor Force and it's at
159,463,000. That's a record high.
Of that 159,463,000 people doing something about work, the 7,849,000 who are unsuccessful make up 4.9%.

The population of 253,854,000 minus the labor force of 159,463,000 gives 94,391,000 people not doing anything about work (not the record high). Of those, 5,833,000 say they want a job in theory, but are not able or willing to look for one right now.

So, you accept the 94 million not working or looking for work as valid, but reject the 159,463, working and looking for work as BS? How does that work?

 

[JakeStarkey]

In the USA today, we have about 95 million Americans of working age NOT WORKING out of a total population of roughly 320 million. A fucking RECORD number. Are you aware of this stat??? Do you or the others in this thread dispute this number?????

You've disputed that number when you've said the government lies and that the government numbers are BS.

Of course, many are retired, disabled, in college, house wives/husbands, etc. However, millions of these NOT WORKING Americans do not fall into these categories. This proves that the government stat of 5% UE is completely bogus. It does not reflect reality.

There are 253,854,000 people in the U.S. age 16 and older who are not active duty military, or in prison, or in an institution.
Of those, 151,614,000 are employed (a record high).
7,849,000 are not working and looking for work (unemployed)
Employed plus unemployed are those people doing something about work: people who could/should be working if there were enough jobs for everyone. We call this the Labor Force and it's at
159,463,000. That's a record high.
Of that 159,463,000 people doing something about work, the 7,849,000 who are unsuccessful make up 4.9%.

The population of 253,854,000 minus the labor force of 159,463,000 gives 94,391,000 people not doing anything about work (not the record high). Of those, 5,833,000 say they want a job in theory, but are not able or willing to look for one right now.

So, you accept the 94 million not working or looking for work as valid, but reject the 159,463, working and looking for work as BS? How does that work?

gipper does not understand the figures, for several reasons.

 

[pinqy]

In the USA today, we have about 95 million Americans of working age NOT WORKING out of a total population of roughly 320 million. A fucking RECORD number. Are you aware of this stat??? Do you or the others in this thread dispute this number?????

You've disputed that number when you've said the government lies and that the government numbers are BS.

Of course, many are retired, disabled, in college, house wives/husbands, etc. However, millions of these NOT WORKING Americans do not fall into these categories. This proves that the government stat of 5% UE is completely bogus. It does not reflect reality.

There are 253,854,000 people in the U.S. age 16 and older who are not active duty military, or in prison, or in an institution.
Of those, 151,614,000 are employed (a record high).
7,849,000 are not working and looking for work (unemployed)
Employed plus unemployed are those people doing something about work: people who could/should be working if there were enough jobs for everyone. We call this the Labor Force and it's at
159,463,000. That's a record high.
Of that 159,463,000 people doing something about work, the 7,849,000 who are unsuccessful make up 4.9%.

The population of 253,854,000 minus the labor force of 159,463,000 gives 94,391,000 people not doing anything about work (not the record high). Of those, 5,833,000 say they want a job in theory, but are not able or willing to look for one right now.

So, you accept the 94 million not working or looking for work as valid, but reject the 159,463, working and looking for work as BS? How does that work?

gipper does not understand the figures, for several reasons.

I know, that's why I explained them

 

[PredFan]

Things are dire!! We are not at 0% UE, the average annual income is not $100000 per worker, and prices at the pump are not under a dollar. We are doomed!!

Yeah, that's what they naysayers, who have done nothing constructively to improve matters, are telling us.

In context, things are better and they are getting better. Suck on that, Trump.


This is how much gasoline prices could fall in next few weeks

That only goes to show that despite 0bama's best efforts, you cannot keep America's Free Market Economy down forever.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Things are dire!! We are not at 0% UE, the average annual income is not $100000 per worker, and prices at the pump are not under a dollar. We are doomed!!

Yeah, that's what they naysayers, who have done nothing constructively to improve matters, are telling us.

In context, things are better and they are getting better. Suck on that, Trump.


This is how much gasoline prices could fall in next few weeks

That only goes to show that despite 0bama's best efforts, you cannot keep America's Free Market Economy down forever.

Your comment is ignorant, but that's OK. Your conclusion is correct, but just for the wrong reason.

 

[PredFan]

Things are dire!! We are not at 0% UE, the average annual income is not $100000 per worker, and prices at the pump are not under a dollar. We are doomed!!

Yeah, that's what they naysayers, who have done nothing constructively to improve matters, are telling us.

In context, things are better and they are getting better. Suck on that, Trump.


This is how much gasoline prices could fall in next few weeks

That only goes to show that despite 0bama's best efforts, you cannot keep America's Free Market Economy down forever.

Your comment is ignorant, but that's OK. Your conclusion is correct, but just for the wrong reason.

Meh, an idiot who understands nothing has no impact when calling me ignorant.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Things are dire!! We are not at 0% UE, the average annual income is not $100000 per worker, and prices at the pump are not under a dollar. We are doomed!!

Yeah, that's what they naysayers, who have done nothing constructively to improve matters, are telling us.

In context, things are better and they are getting better. Suck on that, Trump.


This is how much gasoline prices could fall in next few weeks

That only goes to show that despite 0bama's best efforts, you cannot keep America's Free Market Economy down forever.

Your comment is ignorant, but that's OK. Your conclusion is correct, but just for the wrong reason.

Meh, an idiot who understands nothing has no impact when calling me ignorant.

Says the ignorant far rightie. You are entitled to your opinion, but that is all it is.