2nd hand smoke...lets be clear you indocterated stupid fucks

[ChrisL]

Define "high exposure"

What are you arguing about? Are you going to try and tell us that second hand smoke is NOT harmful and that we should all just "forget about it" so that you can sit on your arse and smoke inside? It's disgusting and it's rude and it's selfish.

 

[OKTexas]

I hate second hand smoke because it smells disgusting and is extremely rude.

Same applies to regressives.

learn english

Thanks for proving my point that regressives smell disgusting and are extremely rude. Right on que.

 

[martybegan]

or you can go to another bar. The question I ask is why is your butt hurt more equal than the smoker's butthurt?

Who is the one spreading unhealthy smoke? Give it up.

Why do you have to be in the bar then?

The people who advocate laws like this would normally not set foot in the place I am talking about, i.e. your dingy neighborhood dive bar, no food except the bags of pretzels and the candy machine, and a place that smells BETTER with cigarette smoke, as opposed to the smell of stale beer, vomit, and the whiff of urine coming from the bathroom.

Maybe I want to have a couple of drinks with my friends!?

Now you are just grasping at straws. Second hand smoke IS unhealthy.

But it is not the instant death you allude to it. I have an Aunt who has emphysema from it, but it took 40 years of her being exposed to my chain smoking uncle to do it.

Again, why does your ability to go once or twice into a bar and have it be smoke free override a regular's ability to have a smoke with his pint, when no one else has an issue with it?

Lol! So what? People now know that second hand smoke is not good for them! There is no NEED for you to smoke indoors. Go outside.

There is no need for you to go into the bar.

 

[martybegan]

Define "high exposure"

What are you arguing about? Are you going to try and tell us that second hand smoke is NOT harmful and that we should all just "forget about it" so that you can sit on your arse and smoke inside? It's disgusting and it's rude and it's selfish.

I'm saying its not the instant death sentence that anti-smoking zealots are making it out to be.

and i notice you can't answer my question.

 

[OKTexas]

The problem is with blanket regulation like this, is if I want to open a bar that caters to smokers, and is staffed by smokers, I have to go through with some bullshit "private club" rigamarole. if everyone in there wants to be around smoke, why go through the hassle of this, and just let a business decide its a smoking business?

And even dumber is the recent attempt to extend anti-smoking rules to vaping, which has NONE of the effects you get from combustion of tobacco products.

Then open a smoking bar or something. Smoking is on the decline anyways with what we all know about how bad it is for us.

Actually in NYC the prevent you from doing that as much as they can. Most of the smoke shops have been grandfathered in, or are "private clubs", and even those are under attack.

And in most smaller bars, once it hits 1 AM or so, the smoking lamp gets lit again anyway. All this does is erode respect for the law.

So? Go smoke outside then. Nobody wants their health jeopardized so that you can suck on your cancer stick and/or you are too lazy to get up and go smoke outdoors.

I've actually never smoked a cigarette in my life. My tobacco use is limited to about 2-3 stogies a year.

My issue is that if non smoking bars were such a wonderful idea, why did government have to force it. Why not let bars decide?

Going to a bar and getting hammered isn't a constitutional right.


Note that I mean "bar" bars not restaurants, where I can see the benefit of no smoking regs.

The issue is government tries to make 1 size fits all laws for situations that don't call for it.

Going to an enclosed area and smoking isn't a constitutional right either . . .

The point here is that nobody is stopping smokers from smoking. They only have to get up off their "butts" and go smoke their butts outside so that no one else has to be exposed to their air pollution.

Really, the explain no smoking regulations in parks and beaches, last I heard they're outside.

 

[ChrisL]

Define "high exposure"

What are you arguing about? Are you going to try and tell us that second hand smoke is NOT harmful and that we should all just "forget about it" so that you can sit on your arse and smoke inside? It's disgusting and it's rude and it's selfish.

I'm saying its not the instant death sentence that anti-smoking zealots are making it out to be.

and i notice you can't answer my question.

What question? The fact that you want to minimize the harmful effects on a person's health from second hand smoke? Doesn't matter if it only does a "little" damage or a "lot" of damage. I don't want to be exposed to that if I choose to go have a few drinks at my local bar.

 

[ChrisL]

Then open a smoking bar or something. Smoking is on the decline anyways with what we all know about how bad it is for us.

Actually in NYC the prevent you from doing that as much as they can. Most of the smoke shops have been grandfathered in, or are "private clubs", and even those are under attack.

And in most smaller bars, once it hits 1 AM or so, the smoking lamp gets lit again anyway. All this does is erode respect for the law.

So? Go smoke outside then. Nobody wants their health jeopardized so that you can suck on your cancer stick and/or you are too lazy to get up and go smoke outdoors.

I've actually never smoked a cigarette in my life. My tobacco use is limited to about 2-3 stogies a year.

My issue is that if non smoking bars were such a wonderful idea, why did government have to force it. Why not let bars decide?

Going to a bar and getting hammered isn't a constitutional right.


Note that I mean "bar" bars not restaurants, where I can see the benefit of no smoking regs.

The issue is government tries to make 1 size fits all laws for situations that don't call for it.

Going to an enclosed area and smoking isn't a constitutional right either . . .

The point here is that nobody is stopping smokers from smoking. They only have to get up off their "butts" and go smoke their butts outside so that no one else has to be exposed to their air pollution.

Really, the explain no smoking regulations in parks and beaches, last I heard they're outside.

Probably because some filthy smokers leave their butts around everywhere.

 

[OKTexas]

Define "high exposure"

What are you arguing about? Are you going to try and tell us that second hand smoke is NOT harmful and that we should all just "forget about it" so that you can sit on your arse and smoke inside? It's disgusting and it's rude and it's selfish.

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

 

[ClosedCaption]

You want to see the OP do something stupid?

Just tell him Pence or Trump said something completely full of shit and watch him follow right along with the idea you made up

 

[OKTexas]

Actually in NYC the prevent you from doing that as much as they can. Most of the smoke shops have been grandfathered in, or are "private clubs", and even those are under attack.

And in most smaller bars, once it hits 1 AM or so, the smoking lamp gets lit again anyway. All this does is erode respect for the law.

So? Go smoke outside then. Nobody wants their health jeopardized so that you can suck on your cancer stick and/or you are too lazy to get up and go smoke outdoors.

I've actually never smoked a cigarette in my life. My tobacco use is limited to about 2-3 stogies a year.

My issue is that if non smoking bars were such a wonderful idea, why did government have to force it. Why not let bars decide?

Going to a bar and getting hammered isn't a constitutional right.


Note that I mean "bar" bars not restaurants, where I can see the benefit of no smoking regs.

The issue is government tries to make 1 size fits all laws for situations that don't call for it.

Going to an enclosed area and smoking isn't a constitutional right either . . .

The point here is that nobody is stopping smokers from smoking. They only have to get up off their "butts" and go smoke their butts outside so that no one else has to be exposed to their air pollution.

Really, the explain no smoking regulations in parks and beaches, last I heard they're outside.

Probably because some filthy smokers leave their butts around everywhere.

Oh right, like nonsmokers never litter.

 

[ChrisL]

Define "high exposure"

What are you arguing about? Are you going to try and tell us that second hand smoke is NOT harmful and that we should all just "forget about it" so that you can sit on your arse and smoke inside? It's disgusting and it's rude and it's selfish.

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

And what about emphysema? Are you seriously trying to tell us a tale that second hand smoke is harmless just so that you can go smoke in your favorite bar? Selfish dude. Just stop.

 

[ChrisL]

So? Go smoke outside then. Nobody wants their health jeopardized so that you can suck on your cancer stick and/or you are too lazy to get up and go smoke outdoors.

I've actually never smoked a cigarette in my life. My tobacco use is limited to about 2-3 stogies a year.

My issue is that if non smoking bars were such a wonderful idea, why did government have to force it. Why not let bars decide?

Going to a bar and getting hammered isn't a constitutional right.


Note that I mean "bar" bars not restaurants, where I can see the benefit of no smoking regs.

The issue is government tries to make 1 size fits all laws for situations that don't call for it.

Going to an enclosed area and smoking isn't a constitutional right either . . .

The point here is that nobody is stopping smokers from smoking. They only have to get up off their "butts" and go smoke their butts outside so that no one else has to be exposed to their air pollution.

Really, the explain no smoking regulations in parks and beaches, last I heard they're outside.

Probably because some filthy smokers leave their butts around everywhere.

Oh right, like nonsmokers never litter.

Nobody said that. You are on the losing side of this argument. There are no "pros" to your argument. None.

 

[Pop23]

You can tell me that there is no "evidence" that second hand smoke causes health problems, but common sense tells ME that sitting in an enclosed smoky area and breathing all that smoke into my lungs is NOT healthy for me. Whether it causes cancer, emphysema or whatever, what difference does that make? I don't want any of those diseases, thanks.

Then don't enter

Pretty simple

Smoke outside. That's simple too.

If the property owner wishes me to, no problemo

 

[Pop23]

Define "high exposure"

What are you arguing about? Are you going to try and tell us that second hand smoke is NOT harmful and that we should all just "forget about it" so that you can sit on your arse and smoke inside? It's disgusting and it's rude and it's selfish.

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

And what about emphysema? Are you seriously trying to tell us a tale that second hand smoke is harmless just so that you can go smoke in your favorite bar? Selfish dude. Just stop.

What about peanut allergies. Many times deadly, and just the dust from them can kill. Ever seen a bowl of peanuts on a bar?

Oh, such concern for mankind.

Did you know that alcohol is classified as a poison?


Did that make you pee your pants in fear?

 

[ChrisL]

You can tell me that there is no "evidence" that second hand smoke causes health problems, but common sense tells ME that sitting in an enclosed smoky area and breathing all that smoke into my lungs is NOT healthy for me. Whether it causes cancer, emphysema or whatever, what difference does that make? I don't want any of those diseases, thanks.

Then don't enter

Pretty simple

Smoke outside. That's simple too.

If the property owner wishes me to, no problemo

Sorry, business owners have to follow rules and regulations. A business owner cannot just do whatever he/she wants. Thems the facts!

 

[ChrisL]

Define "high exposure"

What are you arguing about? Are you going to try and tell us that second hand smoke is NOT harmful and that we should all just "forget about it" so that you can sit on your arse and smoke inside? It's disgusting and it's rude and it's selfish.

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

And what about emphysema? Are you seriously trying to tell us a tale that second hand smoke is harmless just so that you can go smoke in your favorite bar? Selfish dude. Just stop.

What about peanut allergies. Many times deadly, and just the dust from them can kill. Ever seen a bowl of peanuts on a bar?

Oh, such concern for mankind.

Did you know that alcohol is classified as a poison?


Did that make you pee your pants in fear?

So then you are advocating for closing down bars? What is your point? You are WAAAAY out there in la la land.

 

[Pop23]

So? Go smoke outside then. Nobody wants their health jeopardized so that you can suck on your cancer stick and/or you are too lazy to get up and go smoke outdoors.

I've actually never smoked a cigarette in my life. My tobacco use is limited to about 2-3 stogies a year.

My issue is that if non smoking bars were such a wonderful idea, why did government have to force it. Why not let bars decide?

Going to a bar and getting hammered isn't a constitutional right.


Note that I mean "bar" bars not restaurants, where I can see the benefit of no smoking regs.

The issue is government tries to make 1 size fits all laws for situations that don't call for it.

Going to an enclosed area and smoking isn't a constitutional right either . . .

The point here is that nobody is stopping smokers from smoking. They only have to get up off their "butts" and go smoke their butts outside so that no one else has to be exposed to their air pollution.

or you can go to another bar. The question I ask is why is your butt hurt more equal than the smoker's butthurt?

Who is the one spreading unhealthy smoke? Give it up.

Why do you have to be in the bar then?

The people who advocate laws like this would normally not set foot in the place I am talking about, i.e. your dingy neighborhood dive bar, no food except the bags of pretzels and the candy machine, and a place that smells BETTER with cigarette smoke, as opposed to the smell of stale beer, vomit, and the whiff of urine coming from the bathroom.

It's where drinks gather. Many then go home and beat they're wifes

 

[ChrisL]

I've actually never smoked a cigarette in my life. My tobacco use is limited to about 2-3 stogies a year.

My issue is that if non smoking bars were such a wonderful idea, why did government have to force it. Why not let bars decide?

Going to a bar and getting hammered isn't a constitutional right.


Note that I mean "bar" bars not restaurants, where I can see the benefit of no smoking regs.

The issue is government tries to make 1 size fits all laws for situations that don't call for it.

Going to an enclosed area and smoking isn't a constitutional right either . . .

The point here is that nobody is stopping smokers from smoking. They only have to get up off their "butts" and go smoke their butts outside so that no one else has to be exposed to their air pollution.

or you can go to another bar. The question I ask is why is your butt hurt more equal than the smoker's butthurt?

Who is the one spreading unhealthy smoke? Give it up.

Why do you have to be in the bar then?

The people who advocate laws like this would normally not set foot in the place I am talking about, i.e. your dingy neighborhood dive bar, no food except the bags of pretzels and the candy machine, and a place that smells BETTER with cigarette smoke, as opposed to the smell of stale beer, vomit, and the whiff of urine coming from the bathroom.

It's where drinks gather. Many then go home and beat they're wifes

God damn. Your spelling is just atrocious. Smoking kills brain cells, I'm sure of it.

You are arguing for the "right" of a bar owner to allow or disallow smoking, while at the same time condemning the very business being performed at a bar. You are not making any sense.

 

[Pop23]

Define "high exposure"

What are you arguing about? Are you going to try and tell us that second hand smoke is NOT harmful and that we should all just "forget about it" so that you can sit on your arse and smoke inside? It's disgusting and it's rude and it's selfish.

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

And what about emphysema? Are you seriously trying to tell us a tale that second hand smoke is harmless just so that you can go smoke in your favorite bar? Selfish dude. Just stop.

What about peanut allergies. Many times deadly, and just the dust from them can kill. Ever seen a bowl of peanuts on a bar?

Oh, such concern for mankind.

Did you know that alcohol is classified as a poison?


Did that make you pee your pants in fear?

So then you are advocating for closing down bars? What is your point? You are WAAAAY out there in la la land.

No I am fine with assumed risk. All I need is a sign on the door giving me notice.

Funny, you can easily stay away from smokers, lighting up makes any perceived danger apparent. It's different with drinkers, they can kill or beat you miles and miles away from where they consume the product.

But you fear the smoker??????

 

[ChrisL]

What are you arguing about? Are you going to try and tell us that second hand smoke is NOT harmful and that we should all just "forget about it" so that you can sit on your arse and smoke inside? It's disgusting and it's rude and it's selfish.

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

Study Finds No Link Between Secondhand Smoke And Cancer

And what about emphysema? Are you seriously trying to tell us a tale that second hand smoke is harmless just so that you can go smoke in your favorite bar? Selfish dude. Just stop.

What about peanut allergies. Many times deadly, and just the dust from them can kill. Ever seen a bowl of peanuts on a bar?

Oh, such concern for mankind.

Did you know that alcohol is classified as a poison?


Did that make you pee your pants in fear?

So then you are advocating for closing down bars? What is your point? You are WAAAAY out there in la la land.

No I am fine with assumed risk. All I need is a sign on the door giving me notice.

Funny, you can easily stay away from smokers, lighting up makes any perceived danger apparent. It's different with drinkers, they can kill or beat you miles and miles away from where they consume the product.

But you fear the smoker??????

Let's put it this way so perhaps your limited intellect can understand. Beating your wife is illegal. You will go to jail. Drinking and driving is illegal. You will go to jail. Second hand smoking is banned from some indoor areas.