280 People Missing in Michael

[SassyIrishLass]

Hurricanes ain't no joke.... As a retired utility lineman I have seen my share of destructive hurricanes over the years.

Tornadoes are bad also, I was in one when I was young, scary. They sound like a freight train coming and usually with little warning.

We had an unexpected storm last summer, and almost never have tornadoes in this country. I had 5 cluster (small) tornados that took my neighbor's roof, 60 ft. of my wood fence put in 3 years ago, multiple other places, and trees down everywhere on my 14-acres. But it left my house alone. Only 10 feet away, a huge branch of a tree on the north side of my house was snapped off, but it left my house alone. I was inside praying for them to please spare my house and dissipate. That they did, moved on. The only severe damage that happened was out front, all the screens have holes in them where multiple flotsam and jetsam hit during the storm. It sounded like a freight train, and when I looked outside, the circular air with stuff flying around it was 10 ft. higher than my roof. The angels lifted the storm over the top of my roof. My neighbor, whose farmhouse is at least 200 yards away lost nearly all of his roof. It was torn off like flypaper. I couldn't get to the back of my property due to the standing water left over from the water, and we had rain for several days after that part of the storm. 3 weeks later, the sun actually came out for 3 days, and I drove my tractor back there. It took out a dozen trees on either side of my shotgun-shaped land. All the trees around the lake were on their sides, roots out of the ground. One of my tall pines about 30 feet from the house was snapped off in the middle. These several months later, the one that got snapped just turned that deathly orange color that tells you the tree is close to being dead. The storm felled another tall pine and stripped all the bark and limbs from another. There was no evacuation given because that's the first tornado cluster that has been anywhere close. Nobody expected it.

I lived through dozens of hurricanes, having grown up on the gulf coast of Texas. Hurricane Carla stands out in my mind, because the water came up to our house and was only an inch or two from the concrete sidewalk at the entrance--the front yard was under water, and it was knee deep in the street. My mama looked worried that day, but we were spared.

May those 280 people who are missing just be staying with loved ones right now.​

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Wind speeds of a tornado

The Fujita Scale
F-Scale Number Intensity Phrase Wind Speed
F0 Gale tornado 40-72 mph
F2 Significant tornado 113-157 mph
F3 Severe tornado 158-206 mph
F4 Devastating tornado 207-260 mph

 

[beagle9]

You know, if I was going to live in a place like that which could be hit by hurricanes and floods, I'd be looking into building a watertight house out of steel with steel shutters you could pull down over the windows and doors when stuff like this hit.

Also, I'd be making it in the shape of a geodesic dome (one of the strongest structures around), which would be good in the case of high winds.

What always blew my mind is how building codes don't reflect the dangers in flood planes or high risk areas. I guess shady contractors or wealthy businessmen/women can do what they want when building for profit. Let the buyer be dammed I guess.

Corruption is a tragic thing.

 

[Red Dog]

Having been through numerous hurricanes, I know not to play around.

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[beautress]

Hurricanes ain't no joke.... As a retired utility lineman I have seen my share of destructive hurricanes over the years.

One question....do brick or concrete homes also fall like those....when a hurricane hits??

Found some pictures, because I really don't know, except I hear it's pretty expensive to build a house to withstand a cat-5 hurricane.

 

[eagle1462010]

Hurricanes ain't no joke.... As a retired utility lineman I have seen my share of destructive hurricanes over the years.

One question....do brick or concrete homes also fall like those....when a hurricane hits??

Found some pictures, because I really don't know, except I hear it's pretty expensive to build a house to withstand a cat-5 hurricane.

Mother Nature can take out anything.. The Storm surge is the worst part.......Nothing can really withstand it.......I believe it is called break away walls in some construction that would break out sections on the bottom of the home to allow the water to free flow through possibly leaving the structure intact.......but kinda of useless as anything saturated with water will turn to black mold fairly quickly and your hosed anyway.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[Likkmee]

Hurricanes ain't no joke.... As a retired utility lineman I have seen my share of destructive hurricanes over the years.

One question....do brick or concrete homes also fall like those....when a hurricane hits??

Brick is nothing more than thick wallpaper. A concrete house with metal roofing, trusses, steel studs will stand. Anyone living in a wood frame house near the east coast is an idiot. Anyone in a concrete... correctly built concrete block w/ tie beam home, tile over concrete floors, steel studs,blue board type drywall without badass hurricane shutters is an asshole with more money than brains.
Anyone anywhere on the planet who has wallpaper or carpeting needs to be spayed/neutered.

 

[eagle1462010]

Hurricanes ain't no joke.... As a retired utility lineman I have seen my share of destructive hurricanes over the years.

One question....do brick or concrete homes also fall like those....when a hurricane hits??

Brick is nothing more than thick wallpaper. A concrete house with metal roofing, trusses, steel studs will stand. Anyone living in a wood frame house near the east coast is an idiot. Anyone in a concrete... correctly built concrete block w/ tie beam home, tile over concrete floors, steel studs,blue board type drywall without badass hurricane shutters is an asshole with more money than brains.
Anyone anywhere on the planet who has wallpaper or carpeting needs to be spayed/neutered.

Wood homes properly built can stand up to a beating..........As long as they are properly tied to the foundation....and have extra hurricane strapping... Brick is hardly wall paper..........and can take impact damage very well.............

In regards to shutters.........You can install Plywood during the storm with anchors into the brick or whatever surface to protect your home.........Hurricanes throw loose items like missiles at homes.......and it's purpose is to prevent the windows from getting knocked out...........If the storm is badass...........yeah it's best to leave..............but if you are in a flood zone and don't leave........well your stupid.

 

[Geaux4it]

The 'redneck riviera' as its called, has many elderly, retired folks and they are the most vulnerable.

-Geaux

 

[beautress]

Bless you all, Seabees and friends of Seabees. My big bro was a MCPO on the USS Midway. Lost him about 4 years ago. Y'all have big hearts for just average people who can't appreciate the power of falling water like youse guys.

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[eagle1462010]

Bless you all, Seabees and friends of Seabees. My big bro was a MCPO on the USS Midway. Lost him about 4 years ago. Y'all have big hearts for just average people who can't appreciate the power of falling water like youse guys.

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Midway huh..........hmmmm.............Was he in the service and one of the F/A 18's dropped a bomb on the Reeves.......CG-24 out of Yokusuka Japan..........

LOL

I was in the Midway battlegroup out of Yokosuka, Japan back in the day.

NAVY PILOT MISTOOK USS REEVES FOR `INTENDED TARGET'<BR> STILL UNCLEAR HOW PILOT GOT CONFUSED

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[beautress]

Bless you all, Seabees and friends of Seabees. My big bro was a MCPO on the USS Midway. Lost him about 4 years ago. Y'all have big hearts for just average people who can't appreciate the power of falling water like youse guys.

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Midway huh..........hmmmm.............Was he in the service and one of the F/A 18's dropped a bomb on the Reeves.......CG-24 out of Yokusuka Japan..........

LOL

I was in the Midway battlegroup out of Yokosuka, Japan back in the day.

NAVY PILOT MISTOOK USS REEVES FOR `INTENDED TARGET'<BR> STILL UNCLEAR HOW PILOT GOT CONFUSED

Eagle, my brother considered the whereabouts and activities his ship did was classified and did not discuss specifics. One of his men told me he could take apart and put back together a phantom jet blindfolded, which didn't surprise me one bit because of his love for cars he took apart and put back together in high school, and they always ran right and looked like million$. And his skipper tried to talk him into officer school, but he insisted on remaining enlisted only. He liked what he did and he liked the guys who helped him maintain all the flying equipment. Hopefully the pilots, most of whom were officers, knew he enjoyed grounding arrogant know-it-alls if they treated his equipment badly or one of his mechanics badly. Apparently his skipper liked him well enough to hang onto him for several years, which I understand wasn't common. My dear brother. He retired sometime in the mid-eighties. *sigh*

 

[eagle1462010]

Bless you all, Seabees and friends of Seabees. My big bro was a MCPO on the USS Midway. Lost him about 4 years ago. Y'all have big hearts for just average people who can't appreciate the power of falling water like youse guys.

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Midway huh..........hmmmm.............Was he in the service and one of the F/A 18's dropped a bomb on the Reeves.......CG-24 out of Yokusuka Japan..........

LOL

I was in the Midway battlegroup out of Yokosuka, Japan back in the day.

NAVY PILOT MISTOOK USS REEVES FOR `INTENDED TARGET'<BR> STILL UNCLEAR HOW PILOT GOT CONFUSED

Eagle, my brother considered the whereabouts and activities his ship did was classified and did not discuss specifics. One of his men told me he could take apart and put back together a phantom jet blindfolded, which didn't surprise me one bit because of his love for cars he took apart and put back together in high school, and they always ran right and looked like million$. And his skipper tried to talk him into officer school, but he insisted on remaining enlisted only. He liked what he did and he liked the guys who helped him maintain all the flying equipment. Hopefully the pilots, most of whom were officers, knew he enjoyed grounding arrogant know-it-alls if they treated his equipment badly or one of his mechanics badly. Apparently his skipper liked him well enough to hang onto him for several years, which I understand wasn't common. My dear brother. He retired sometime in the mid-eighties. *sigh*

Sorry he's gone......was in that group late 80's...........It was a mistake in 89.........happens.

Thanks for the nice posts....

BRAVO ZULU

 

[beautress]

Eagle, I followed your link. The event you described was 1989. I'm pretty sure my brother was back home long before then.

 

[beautress]

In from Reuters a couple of hours ago: 7 dead.

Hurricane Michael rips apart Florida towns, 7 dead

 

[eagle1462010]

Eagle, I followed your link. The event you described was 1989. I'm pretty sure my brother was back home long before then.

I know..........it's just me kinda messing with the Midway.........the Midway did very honored service.........Those deployments aren't really classified anymore. Tanker Escorts in the Persian Gulf........during the Iran Iraq War..........Plane guard off Vladigascav Russia.......Team Spirit with Korea.............were pretty standard deployments.............

It was later on but we picked up refugees off Vietnam once over there and took them to Thailand...........

 

[skye]

Hurricanes ain't no joke.... As a retired utility lineman I have seen my share of destructive hurricanes over the years.

One question....do brick or concrete homes also fall like those....when a hurricane hits??

Found some pictures, because I really don't know, except I hear it's pretty expensive to build a house to withstand a cat-5 hurricane.

The brick structures are still standing.....all the rest is gone.

Thank you for the photos!

 

[beautress]

Hurricanes ain't no joke.... As a retired utility lineman I have seen my share of destructive hurricanes over the years.

One question....do brick or concrete homes also fall like those....when a hurricane hits??

Found some pictures, because I really don't know, except I hear it's pretty expensive to build a house to withstand a cat-5 hurricane.

The brick structures are still standing.....all the rest is gone.

Thank you for the photos!

Any time, skye. I have to say, though, there were several pictures where you couldn't tell because the bricks were scattered nearby to what was nothing left of a structure. They didn't show clearly that they had been brick structures. Those of you who tried to 'splain good building procedures are right on. It depends on what kind of stainless steel you affix the brick/concrete with to make it sturdy, and where and what degree you place other stuff at to withstand 300 mph breezes. With everybody wanting to be a millionaire these days, and with the steel industry in the USA pretty slim, I reckon contemporary and future buildings won't be worth a hoot in a storm like Michael unless the industry develops higher standards to meet Poseidon's fury of wind and water.

 

[Rustic]

On Inside Edition this afternoon, a person who had stayed behind had video as his house was being ripped apart. He was sitting on the couch when the whole wall behind him was ripped from the house by the winds.

They also showed a video of a woman who had stayed behind sounding like she was in shock, because she kept repeating that staying was a stupid thing to do, and she never should have done it. She said it several times in a row, and you could hear the stress in her voice.

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