Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature currently requires accessing the site using the built-in Safari browser.
Any NY judge and jury is going to be tough for trump to get a fair trial in.
Let’s look at the case. To get to preponderance of evidence, there would have had to have been SOME kind of evidence to begin with. Comments trump had made about her, or them being seen together, something that links them together that the jury would say “yes, we think it’s likely he could have done that”, but in this case, there was none of that. There is no evidence whatsoever that they were even at bergdorf at the same time. It’s just his word against hers, and her two friends she claimed to have told at the time.
The fact that the jury decided to find him liable under zero evidence or even any indication that they were ever at the store on that day shows the jury was biased.
Prove it…there is no evidence they were ever at bergdorf that day, there was no evidence he touched her in any way sexually. None. It was just her word against his
He never claimed to have assaulted anyone. He said “they let you”, he never claimed to have forced himself.
Even still, that tape in no way indicates he actually touched anyone.
Let’s put it this way, if you said “I want to rob that store” and lo and behold, that store got robbed, they can’t arrest you and put you in jail or fine you or whatever simply because you said that. They still have to prove you did it.
Same here , just because trump said “women let you” doesn’t indicate he had any contact with e Jean Carroll.
Of course we all know why you take this position. It’s all political. It’s the same reason why Tara Reid was dismissed so easily when she made a claim. It didn’t matter what she said, preponderance of evidence was inconsequential concerning her, because it involved Biden. You had to dismiss that straight away.
Accused…but never convicted, right? Of course people will come out of the woodwork, especially if it’s a Republican, to make accusations…when anyone actually proves anything, then let’s talk.
Many men and many women enjoy doing this…doesn’t mean he forced himself on anyone.
How do you know? Because you WANT to believe it based on all the political hackery you’ve listened to over the years?
I love the double standard though. When a Repub is accused it’s guilty! When a democrat is accused it’s deny deny deny!
lol.
Well, its good to know any woman now can say you raped them with no proof, no year that it happened ,and you will be be paying a lot of money. How does that sound? Please prove you did not rape them. See how that works?
The “wrath of maga?” You been watching too much scifi.Defamation by Trump is much more than “You hurt my feelings”
Trump brings on the wrath of MAGA and Carrol received death threats for daring to accuse Trump
The “wrath of maga?” You been watching too much scifi.
Insufficient evidence means 0 evidence of penetration by anyone or anything. Just her say so after 30 years of silence this is nothing but bullshit. NY changed its law so that this case could actually be adjudicated AFTER the original and institutional time limit. This whole thing stinks as much as her shrivled crotch.
Not when he is accused by real women of doing the EXACT thing he is confessing of in his bragging.Locker room bragging is meaningless…
A Jury has to go on what is presented
Trumps demeanor in court, continued harassment of Carrol, bragging about doing the same thing Carrol accused him of and other women accusing him of the same thing made it easy for them.
That’s fine. What’s done is dine. I just can’t wait until this comes back around to a democrat and we can watch you all make threads about how it’s wrong that they do that.
Please, please, please, don't any posters here drive away one of my favs, EMH.
He is just too darn much fun to get sent off to the QAnon chatroom.
We need him here. We need more fun here. That's for sure.
---------------------------------------------------------
Well, notably, 30 years ago she didn't ...1. press charges criminally; 2. file a complaint civilly. But nearly 30yrs later she did describe the encounter in a book.....and DonT. promptly defamed her.
So she sued him---civilly----for defamation.
That brought on trial #1, and jurors 1 thru 9...who, after listening to Carroll's presentation, and Trump's presentation unanimously determined he had non-consensually penetrated her with his fingers.
And the judge laid something like a $5 million dollar fine on him.
So, in a temper tantrum he defamed her again. And again. And again.
So trial number 2 was conducted with jurors 10 thru 18. And that new set of 9, voted, like the first 9 did, voted unanimously.
And then they ---or maybe the judge (?) laid a $80+ million spank on DonT.
I thought you would have read all about that in various media reportages.
Well, another perspective is that this so-called '2-tier system' was manifested by the deference the court offered Don Trump time after time when any other less rich, less famous defendant would have been cited for contempt and persisting ....sent off to the jail to cool off. But the unfair system favoring the rich and the famous clearly was displayed and Don Trump was allowed way way too much leeway, and way way too much public disrespect towards the judge and the court. IMHO
Hell yes, of course the plaintiff's attorneys (there was no 'prosecution') wanted the jury to agree to the complaint of rape. But, the jury found 'insufficient' evidence as the statute at that time required penetration by a penis (not fingers) to be rape. It was not, as poster 'Leo' alleges of "no evidence". Rather..."insufficient evidence".
-------------------------------------------------------------
Yupper, it was. Twice.
And 18 folks --and the judge ----believed her word over his.
And really, no one who can fog a mirror would question why.
As everybody knows, DonT has a long, long, fulsome history of economy of truth in his statements, claims, assertions, and boasts.
Duh!!! Who doesn't know that?
So, from my view as some bloke who never sat in that courtroom ....well, most anybody's word is gonna be believed over DonT's word. That's the Karma-thingy DonT. has dodged and snaked away from his entire life.
But accountability like karma finally found him.
Say, Amen!!!
Well, another perspective is that this so-called '2-tier system' was manifested by the deference the court offered Don Trump time after time when any other less rich, less famous defendant would have been cited for contempt and persisting ....sent off to the jail to cool off. But the unfair system favoring the rich and the famous clearly was displayed and Don Trump was allowed way way too much leeway, and way way too much public disrespect towards the judge and the court. IMHO
Yupper, it was. Twice.
And 18 folks --and the judge ----believed her word over his.
And really, no one who can fog a mirror would question why.
As everybody knows, DonT has a long, long, fulsome history of economy of truth in his statements, claims, assertions, and boasts.
Duh!!! Who doesn't know that?
So, from my view as some bloke who never sat in that courtroom ....well, most anybody's word is gonna be believed over DonT's word. That's the Karma-thingy DonT. has dodged and snaked away from his entire life.
But accountability like karma finally found him.
I want all members here named "Right winger" round up and thrown in a pit of fireants sa they await their rape trials.Defamation by Trump is much more than “You hurt my feelings”
Trump brings on the wrath of MAGA and Carrol received death threats for daring to accuse Trump
There was evidence. She brought in witnesses. Trump admitted to assaulting women previously. And in Trump's own testimony, after saying Carroll was not his type, thought a photo of her was really a photo of his ex-wife. You many not like that that is evidence, but it is.
Now why would he put his finger in that "fishy smelling hole:?You are not going to get evidence of penetration 30 years later
What you do get is painful memories that Carrol wrote about in a book. Trump savagely attacked her and turned MAGA on her.
She sued and was awarded $5 million.
Trump was too stupid to realize his antics were costing him and kept it up.
$83 million
Because it’s true. If you are a dem, they tend to deflect deflect and dismiss, take Biden and Tara Reid. You all dismissed that out of hand.What do you mean, "especially if it's a Republican?"
Why do conservatives always play the victim card? Clinton was not a Republican.
Not nearly enough.Because Trump defamed her today
I tell you, some women are walking, talking, fish smelling holes.Now why would he put his finger in that "fishy smelling hole:?
