21,000 students were absent today in Charlotte Public Schools,

[drudge X]

No.

Yes. Look it up.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

By what measure are you making that judgement? People said the same thing when I was in in school in the 60s and 70s, when my kids went to school in the 80s, 90s. and 00s, and now when my grandkids are in high school. It is just a constant in society.

My kids and grandkids got a much better education than I did. Was that not the same for you

I was lucky, I went to a rural consilidated school system. We weren't bombarded with social justice crap. We went to learn, I admired many of my teachers and still communicate with several today. If back in my day a student tried to play themselves off as trans or demanded other's to play along they'd have been scoffed. We had to take political science, we weren't taught one side is evil, we were presented how government works. You can't honestly sit there and say things are the same

 

[Mac-7]

Thank you! All I wanted was for you to stop the diarrhea of the mouth you seem to have been suffering. Was that so hard? Who was in charge of immigration in 2023? Who is in charge now? Why are you crying over spilt milk?

You do know those numbers are supposed to be set by Congress, right? What has legal immigration done to hurt you? It has saved my life, but that's another topic.

Not hard at all

That was the 2nd or 3rd time I posted it on this thread

And you will probably deny it somewhere else tomorrow and demand proof again

Its a standard delaying tactic your side uses

 

[BackAgain]

“Missing” as in not in school where they were supposed to be

That would be “absent.”

 

[Mac-7]

That would be “absent.”

As you wish

They were not present

 

[initforme]

How do you explain the wealthiest nation students keep on losing to developed Asian counties in just about every test?

PISA Scores by Country 2026

Comparison on national scores on the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which measures students' skills in math, science, and reading.

worldpopulationreview.com

Not all kids overseas are tested for one. My kids all received top notch public educations. They were well prepped for college.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How do you explain the wealthiest nation students keep on losing to developed Asian counties in just about every test?

PISA Scores by Country 2026

Comparison on national scores on the Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), which measures students' skills in math, science, and reading.

worldpopulationreview.com

Do you understand the concept of averaging? The smartest kids in the US score the same as the smartest kids in Asia. It's a fact. The problem is that those Asian schools don't go out to the small villages, pluck up all the kids playing in the mud puddles all day and throw them in a classroom and test them on math and science. In this country, we do every kid.

When I was in graduate school, I had to take a course in educational statistics, and we studied these so-called international testing programs. In one year where the US did poorly, we looked at the schools selected to participate in the testing for the US. One of the schools was a high school in downtown Baltimore. How well do you think those kids did compared to elite private school students in Singapore?

 

[BackAgain]

No, more accurately about 100,000 per month

No. According to the source I linked, it’s just over 200,000/month. Simple math.

I would also limit legal immigration for a few years as we did between WWI and WWII

There are pros and cons. I don’t see any need to limit LEGAL immigration.

But for sure no more than the 1.2 million we allow in now

We allow in more than that now. I am not sure why that present limit is all that crucial. Again, I’m fine with immigrants who enter or remain legally, since they get properly screened.

Meaning no to border jumpers or visa overstays tolerated at all

In other words, no illegal immigrants. That I fully endorse.

And reduce one legal immigrant for every asylum seeker we choose to admit

I see no reason for that. Asylum seekers utilizing the proper methods for entry and application are fine by me.

 

[BackAgain]

As you wish

They were not present

I almost never “cut” any school or classes before going to college. Those who did were marked “absent.” But, yes; that does mean they weren’t present.

 

[initforme]

I was lucky, I went to a rural consilidated school system. We weren't bombarded with social justice crap. We went to learn, I admired many of my teachers and still communicate with several today. If back in my day a student tried to play themselves off as trans or demanded other's to play along they'd have been scoffed. We had to take political science, we weren't taught one side is evil, we were presented how government works. You can't honestly sit there and say things are the same

I remember having to take political science. What a useless class. Civics was a bore.

 

[Edgetho]

Its not entirely the teachers fault that they are incomprtent

The decline of the education system began when most of them were children

But that doesnt mean we have to accept it

Yes, it is.

I worked in a relatively complicated industry that dealt with the General Public on a daily basis. It involved explaining to people what they were buying.

I dealt with every class in our society, from the very richest to the very poorest, from the most educated to the least educated.

The smartest people were, I'm sorry to say, Lawyers. They actually, you know -- Listen to what you're saying. Smart people. Butt Heads but -- Smart.

Then there were normal types that were indistinguishable from the rest. But what stuck in mind was -- Teachers were the dumbest ***** I had to deal with. I mean, they were well-spoken, well-educated, presented themselves well and asked pertinent questions -- But they just couldn't understand something 'new'. It was beyond them. I could sit there and explain something to them, patiently, maturely, without condescension and when I was done...... They'd ask the same question I just got through explaining to them for the last 20 minutes. Not Stupid..... Thick. Bordering on stupid, but not 'stupid'. I think they were so indoctrinated that new concepts were something foreign to them. If it didn't fit into their view of how the world should be, they couldn't grasp it. Look at some of the responses in here.

The next dumbest people I had to deal with were 'journalists'. Same thing. Well-educated, presented themselves well, asked the right questions but -- Thick. Hard to get through to. And even when you did, you usually had to explain it two or three times until they finally nodded like they understood -- But they didn't. Like Hispanics. But dumb. Hispanics aren't necessarily dumb but they sometimes pretend to understand things they don't because of the language barrier. Gotta be careful there. Fortunately, Florida has an Official Language law. Otherwise, they'll come back at you saying they no speaky enggie.

A word of caution...... When dealing with any of those types, you need to be fully versed in what Caveat Venditor means. Otherwise, prepare to be bitten in the ass.

I got to where I tried to avoid both professions. Hispanics were pretty cool, though. 90% of them.

 

[drudge X]

Do you understand the concept of averaging? The smartest kids in the US score the same as the smartest kids in Asia. It's a fact. The problem is that those Asian schools don't go out to the small villages, pluck up all the kids playing in the mud puddles all day and throw them in a classroom and test them on math and science. In this country, we do every kid.

When I was in graduate school, I had to take a course in educational statistics, and we studied these so-called international testing programs. In one year where the US did poorly, we looked at the schools selected to participate in the testing for the US. One of the schools was a high school in downtown Baltimore. How well do you think those kids did compared to elite private school students in Singapore?

Have you seen what China is doing lately? Tell me, how long do you believe the US smartest kids can keep up with these smartest kids in Asia when US is constantly falling and shutting down gifted schools because Democrats' two most beloved demographics are underrepresented by wide margin?

 

[Edgetho]

None. The smartest man I have ever known has none.

Sometimes I think edumucashun is a barrier to learning.

Have you ever wondered why virtually every College and University has a CORe Curriculum? Required subjects and required courses with required credits.

Then look at what those required subjects and courses are. Put 2 and 2 together and lettuce know what you think. I know what I think. I think it's part of their 'soft indoctrination' program.

But that's just the cynic in me, right?

Here's Columbia's --

Core Curriculum​

Art Humanities

Contemporary Civilization

Frontiers of Science

Literature Humanities

Music Humanities

University Writing

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I was lucky, I went to a rural consilidated school system. We weren't bombarded with social justice crap. We went to learn, I admired many of my teachers and still communicate with several today. If back in my day a student tried to play themselves off as trans or demanded other's to play along they'd have been scoffed. We had to take political science, we weren't taught one side is evil, we were presented how government works. You can't honestly sit there and say things are the same

Uh, yes, they are. What you see in the media is the worst of the worst. There is the use of that broad brush again.

Here's a tidbit for you to consider. My granddaughter attends high school online. She doesn't care if the face on the other end of her screen is gay, trans or smells bad. Where was that ability when we were in school?

She sits in her classes via a computer screen instead of getting up and walking to the bus, getting on it, riding 3 miles and going to school all day. yet she gets up, gets ready for school and sits at her kitchen table and does her classwork. If she doesn't understand something, she asks the teacher who has a classroom of students, but they are all online. No fights, no bugging other students, no passing notes, no one staring at their cell phone during class, no bad smells, and no bathroom breaks interrupting class. I would have loved to teach that way!

The strange thing is that she is getting an outstanding education in the process. She has the self-discipline to do this and do it well, but most kids do not. She also knows that Dad is right there to help, and if he can't than her Mom can. Grandpa was a teacher of multiple subjects and is 5 minutes away. I know her parents are well educated because her father was my son, and her mother is one of my former students!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sometimes I think edumucashun is a barrier to learning.

Have you ever wondered why virtually every College and University has a CORe Curriculum? Required subjects and required courses with required credits.

Then look at what those required subjects and courses are. Put 2 and 2 together and lettuce know what you think. I know what I think. I think it's part of their 'soft indoctrination' program.

But that's just the cynic in me, right?

Here's Columbia's --

Core Curriculum​

Art Humanities

Contemporary Civilization

Frontiers of Science

Literature Humanities

Music Humanities

University Writing

I highlighted your first mistake. You should never compare any education to the Ivy League schools. They are in their own little world.

 

[Edgetho]

I highlighted your first mistake. You should never compare any education to the Ivy League schools. They are in their own little world.

Quick to criticize, slow to comprehend.

A.I. sez ~

Yes, most colleges have a core curriculum, though the structure and strictness vary widely. These requirements, also called general education requirements, are usually a set of courses outside of a student's major that provide a broad foundation in various subjects. Some schools have very structured programs, while others offer a more flexible approach with a wider range of electives to choose from

 

[80zephyr]

Uh, yes, they are. What you see in the media is the worst of the worst. There is the use of that broad brush again.

Here's a tidbit for you to consider. My granddaughter attends high school online. She doesn't care if the face on the other end of her screen is gay, trans or smells bad. Where was that ability when we were in school?

She sits in her classes via a computer screen instead of getting up and walking to the bus, getting on it, riding 3 miles and going to school all day. yet she gets up, gets ready for school and sits at her kitchen table and does her classwork. If she doesn't understand something, she asks the teacher who has a classroom of students, but they are all online. No fights, no bugging other students, no passing notes, no one staring at their cell phone during class, no bad smells, and no bathroom breaks interrupting class. I would have loved to teach that way!

The strange thing is that she is getting an outstanding education in the process. She has the self-discipline to do this and do it well, but most kids do not. She also knows that Dad is right there to help, and if he can't than her Mom can. Grandpa was a teacher of multiple subjects and is 5 minutes away. I know her parents are well educated because her father was my son, and her mother is one of my former students!

Do you worry about her lack of social interaction ?

 

[Unkotare]

what makes you think there are that many non-citizen students?
...

He just makes shit up and tries to pass it off as "fact." Does it all the time.

 

[Unkotare]

I can add 2+2

...

And you can use your little imagination to pull figures out your ass as you do all the time.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Quick to criticize, slow to comprehend.

A.I. sez ~

Yes, most colleges have a core curriculum, though the structure and strictness vary widely. These requirements, also called general education requirements, are usually a set of courses outside of a student's major that provide a broad foundation in various subjects. Some schools have very structured programs, while others offer a more flexible approach with a wider range of electives to choose from

Quick to criticize when you are out of your league, specifically the Ivy league.

All colleges have a core curriculum. Do you think I liked taking English literature because I was an aerospace engineering student? No, I didn't think I needed it at the time, but as a side note it gave me a lot more appreciation for all of the references to Shakespeare and Moby Dick in Star Trek!

I also had to a take foreign language, which I never used except when watching WWII movies (German). I also had to take history but took the CLEP test and had such an excellent high school education, I bypassed the entire course, which was ironic because I eventually got my degree in it. I even had to take a sociology class to ensure I was well-rounded. Passed that class and only went to class twice.

If you don't want to take those courses, go to a community ed class and get a certificate.