2021 State of The Climate Report: Empirical Observations Show No Sign of ‘Climate Crisis’ – ‘Snow Cover Stable, Sea Ice Levels Recovering, & No Change

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I'm actually interested in hearing about that. Was this petroleum exploration or environmental remediation?

Oil and gas E&P.

 

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Oil and gas E&P.

OK, interesting. You a geologist? Or a Petroleum Engineer?

What formation were you working in? What age? Permian? (cuz Permian would be neat given that CO2 may have played a role in causing warming and ocean acidification at the end of the Permian).

 

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OK, interesting. You a geologist? Or a Petroleum Engineer?

What formation were you working in? What age? Permian? (cuz Permian would be neat given that CO2 may have played a role in causing warming and ocean acidification at the end of the Permian).

PE. I've worked basins all over the world.

 

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PE. I've worked basins all over the world.

Cool.

What basin were you in in the Arctic and what age of formation were you working in?

 

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Cool.

What basin were you in in the Arctic and what age of formation were you working in?

Prudhoe Bay, Kuparuk, etc.

 

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Prudhoe Bay, Kuparuk, etc.

Prudhoe Bay. That's the Sadlerochit formation, right? (The oil horizon).

Is that Permo-Triassic? The oil horizon appears to be in a deltaic sandstone (Tr).

Cool, cool. At the end of the Permian the Siberian Traps were apparently pumping a huge amount of additional CO2 into the atmosphere. This led to some warming but also acidified the oceans and destroyed about 95% of the earth's biodiversity.

CO2 CAN lead temperature. It can also do a lot of other bad things. Things we are seeing happening today! The temperature is rising and the seas are dropping in pH.

Almost as if science is real.

 

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CO2 CAN lead temperature.

The geologic record says otherwise.

 

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Things we are seeing happening today!

Only because they cherry pick their datasets to make it appear that way.

 

[Cardinal Carminative]

The geologic record says otherwise.

Why am I always let down when someone claims knowledge in an area but then never says a thing meaningful about it?

You know you CAN talk geology here.

 

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Only because they cherry pick their datasets to make it appear that way.

Nope.

CO2+H2O -->HCO3- + H+

Add CO2 to the atmosphere it goes into the oceans. Granted it is offset by various other absorption mechanisms but basically it will also lead to acidification.

See that H+ there? Yeah. Remember pH = -log[H+]

So, that's intro chemistry for you.

 

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Why am I always let down when someone claims knowledge in an area but then never says a thing meaningful about it?

You know you CAN talk geology here.

Because we are having a discussion on climate? And the geologic record shows that as the planet got colder climate fluctuations increased in frequency and severity.

 

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Because we are having a discussion on climate?

That's geology. You claimed you learned about climate by exploring for oil in the Arctic. I simply tried to put a geologic frame on what you were doing sitting the rig there.

 

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Nope.

CO2+H2O -->HCO3- + H+

Add CO2 to the atmosphere it goes into the oceans. Granted it is offset by various other absorption mechanisms but basically it will also lead to acidification.

See that H+ there? Yeah. Remember pH = -log[H+]

So, that's intro chemistry for you.

They attribute the urban heat island effect to CO2 and use the low variability instead of high variability solar output dataset.

 

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That's geology. You claimed you learned about climate by exploring for oil in the Arctic. I simply tried to put a geologic frame on what you were doing sitting the rig there.

Again... the geologic record shows that as the planet got colder climate fluctuations increased in frequency and severity.

 

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Again... the geologic record shows that as the planet got colder climate fluctuations increased in frequency and severity.

You might have missed this part in your training but the earth is actually 4.5 BILLION years old (give or take) and so 10 million years really doesn't tell you much of anything meaningful if you want to understand earth systems in the larger sense.

 

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You might have missed this part in your training but the earth is actually 4.5 BILLION years old (give or take) and so 10 million years really doesn't tell you much of anything meaningful if you want to understand earth systems in the larger sense.

There is no greater influence on earth's climate than the change that happened 3 million years ago.

 

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You might have missed this part in your training but the earth is actually 4.5 BILLION years old (give or take) and so 10 million years really doesn't tell you much of anything meaningful if you want to understand earth systems in the larger sense.

Dont confuse him with science

 

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There is no greater influence on earth's climate than the change that happened 3 million years ago.

I don't know what that sentence means.

 

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Dont confuse him with science

Well, he does claim to be a petroleum engineer who has worked in the industry. As such he should know a hell of a lot more geology than he indicates.

 

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I don't know what that sentence means.

That's because you don't understand what drives the climate on this planet.