2020 outlook

[bripat9643]

First off, there is NO credible person on the planet that doubts the legitimacy of what is in the leaked emails.

The corporate and government media want every compulsory educated, brainwashed serf on the planet to argue about whether those emails were stolen by an insider, or hacked by Russians.

Do you know why? Because it distracts from the CONTENTS OF THE EMAILS, and their very, hugely corrupt and damaging implications.

Defenders of the establishment, the DNC, the Democrats and liberals probably need to go back and read them. Otherwise, they are living in an alternate reality.

THE CONTENTS ARE FAR MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHERE THE HELL THEY CAME FROM.

Nobody influenced the election more than the corrupt DNC and Hillary herself. If they weren't? There would be no slime to reveal.

It is that fucking simple.

Nothing has been revealed, leaked or whistle blown on Trump that is as disgusting as what was released in those Wikileaks emails.

Arguing about whether it was a leak or a hack is a giant distraction from the fact that you should run as from away from such a loathsome bunch of creepy corrupt people as run the DNC, THAT WE ALREADY KNOW ABOUT.

The contents of the email was kind vanilla compared to what's going on now. Most people don't even remember what was in them.

Well, I would disagree, the contents were far more explosive.

OTH, yes, you are right, folks have been completely gaslit, they DON'T remember or know. THAT is the whole point. Focus them on, and distract them with a made up Russian story, and make them forget about the real important stuff, i.e. the contents of those emails.

The main thrust of them were about Hillary lying about who she is, taking huge campaign contributions from the tech sector and Wall-street, and her campaign controlling the entire media establishment to get elected.

How is it made up if it happened?

It didn't. Or at least, there is no evidence that it did. The preponderance of evidence is that the emails were leaked, and that they were stolen.

I suppose, it is possible a Russian Agent got into the headquarters of the DNC. .

Seth Rich is Jewish though, not Russian.

Seth Rich's early life and career
Rich grew up in a Jewish family in Omaha, Nebraska.[25][26][27] He volunteered for the Nebraska Democratic Party, interned for Senator Ben Nelson, was active in Jewish outreach,[28] and worked with the United States Census Bureau.[29][30] In 2011, he graduated from Creighton University with a degree in political science.[30][31] He moved to Washington, D.C. to work for pollster Greenberg Quinlan Rosner.[30] In 2014, he began working for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as the Voter Expansion Data Director. One of his tasks at the DNC was the development of a computer application to help voters locate polling stations.[32][33][34]
Murder of Seth Rich - Wikipedia

I suppose that Seth Rich launched a phishing attack on Podesta. Or he hacked Macron's e-mails when he was running against a Moscow backed candidate. Absolutely no evidence of this crazy conspiracy theory.

Says the guy who defended the "Russia! Russia! Russia!" con for 3 years.

 

[busybee01]

^Wingnut fantasies.

Facts, shitferbrains.

1) Assange has repeatedly stated that no state actor (that means a government, numbnutz) aided him in getting the information he had.

2) The data transfer rates from the DNC servers were to fast to have gone over the internet....They were downloaded at the source onto disks or thumb drives.

Assange has been supported by Vladimir Putin so what Assange says is meaningless.

The DNC servers were hacked by the Russians just as they launched a phishing attack on Podesta. Also the e-mails of French President Macron was hacked as well.

Assange has been supported by Vladimir Putin so what Assange says is meaningless.

The DNC servers were hacked by the Russians just as they launched a phishing attack on Podesta. Also the e-mails of French President Macron was hacked as well.

There isn't a scrap of evidence to support that claim.

You're a lying moron.

Putin himself defended Assange from the criminal charges Assange faced. He funneled money to Assange through a program called Russia Today. Those are several ties that Russia has to Assange.

You are the lying moron.

Donald Trump, Julian Assange and Russia: How they're connected, and how they changed an election

ROFL! You mean RT interviewed Assange? Diabolical! They probably interviewed Nazi Pelosi, you fucking dumbass.

You are the fucking dumbass. Boys like you should not lie. You use the default excuse that allows you to avoid facts.

Prove that Russia funded Assange. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Already done that. You refuse to accept reality. I am not going to shut up fucker. Try to make me. That is apparently the limit of your intelligence.

 

[busybee01]

Watch Trump's prediction about Governor of Kentucky - CNN Video

"You have to go vote. Because beyond even the governorship..." blah blah blah "...if you lose it sends a really bad message. YOU CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN TO ME!"

Trump brought Bevins numbers up from 20 points down to too close to call

Bevins was never down by 20 points. Another Trump lie.

RCP
Trafalgar Group (R)* 10/29 - 11/1 1117 LV 2.9 52 47 Bevin +5
Mason-Dixon* 10/10 - 10/13 625 RV 4.0 46 46 Tie
Gravis 6/11 - 6/12 741 RV 3.6 48 42 Bevin +6
Mason-Dixon 12/12 - 12/15 625 RV 4.0 40 48 Beshear +8

Dumbass click on the link I used other than that I can't help your stupidity

RCP uses nationally recognized polls. Facts are facts. Bevins was never down by 20.

Polls are not facts, especially the ones performed by fake news outlets.

You are using polls as facts but real polls are fake news? I think not. The Trafalger Group is a REPUBLICAN polling firm. Neither Mason-Dixon nor Gravis are part of any news outlets.

 

[toobfreak]

It should not.

Should a vote count if a foreign government has been shown to have influenced the results?

Still mad about those Facebook ads?

Of course. You're not upset that a foreign government was able to interfere with our presidential election?

I'm not upset at all that some Russian dudes posted a few ads on Facebook. I am upset that our so called "News" Media is engaged in influencing our election every minute of every day.

To be sure Mike, EVERY KNOWN influence affecting the 2016 election outside the normal channels CAME FROM THE DEMOCRATS. That is what made the entire Mueller investigation and now the impeachment investigation so funny.

1. DNC rigging the electors so that Bernie couldn't win nomination no matter what.
2. Hillary and the DNC fixing the Steele Dossier.
3. The FBI fixing the FISA court.
4. CNN and Donna Brazille stealing debate questions.
5. The DNC trying to turn Trump rallies violent then blame him.
6. Perpetual lies about Trump by the liberal media.
   
7. James Comey dropping charges on Hillary, his admitted felon, to keep her in the race.
8. Hillary avoiding the media for 235 days during the campaign.
9. And the DNC using the Steele Dossier and Comey as grounds to start the Mueller Witch Trials.

The hypocrisy is stunning.

1. Bernie had no chance to win the nomination.

BESIDES THE POINT.​

2. The Steele dossier got several facts right. It pointed out the Russian attempt to help Trump when that was not common knowledge. It also correctly pointed out a Russian spy who ostensibly worked at the Russian embassy.

IRRELEVANT. None of that changed the election and it still involved the DNC using a foreign power to help bring down a president.​

5. Trump urged his supporters to attack protestors and said he would pay their legal fees.

WAS HE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT? Why so you take that literal but nothing else? Meantime, DEMOCRATS WERE URGING PEOPLE TO ATTACK, SPIT ON, HARASS AND JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE TO TRUMP AND HIS SUPPORTERS!​

6. Anything that conflicts with your view is a perpetual lie even if it is the truth. Trump is a proven liar.

NAME ME A PRESIDENT WHO ISN'T A PROVEN LIAR. At least Trump mainly lies about stupid stuff, not our healthcare.​

BOTTOM LINE: there is nothing you cannot point at TRump for the Democrats haven't done and maybe 10X worse.

 

[busybee01]

The contents of the email was kind vanilla compared to what's going on now. Most people don't even remember what was in them.

Well, I would disagree, the contents were far more explosive.

OTH, yes, you are right, folks have been completely gaslit, they DON'T remember or know. THAT is the whole point. Focus them on, and distract them with a made up Russian story, and make them forget about the real important stuff, i.e. the contents of those emails.

The main thrust of them were about Hillary lying about who she is, taking huge campaign contributions from the tech sector and Wall-street, and her campaign controlling the entire media establishment to get elected.

How is it made up if it happened?

It didn't. Or at least, there is no evidence that it did. The preponderance of evidence is that the emails were leaked, and that they were stolen.

I suppose, it is possible a Russian Agent got into the headquarters of the DNC. .

Seth Rich is Jewish though, not Russian.

Seth Rich's early life and career
Rich grew up in a Jewish family in Omaha, Nebraska.[25][26][27] He volunteered for the Nebraska Democratic Party, interned for Senator Ben Nelson, was active in Jewish outreach,[28] and worked with the United States Census Bureau.[29][30] In 2011, he graduated from Creighton University with a degree in political science.[30][31] He moved to Washington, D.C. to work for pollster Greenberg Quinlan Rosner.[30] In 2014, he began working for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as the Voter Expansion Data Director. One of his tasks at the DNC was the development of a computer application to help voters locate polling stations.[32][33][34]
Murder of Seth Rich - Wikipedia

I suppose that Seth Rich launched a phishing attack on Podesta. Or he hacked Macron's e-mails when he was running against a Moscow backed candidate. Absolutely no evidence of this crazy conspiracy theory.

Says the guy who defended the "Russia! Russia! Russia!" con for 3 years.

It is very clear that Trump wanted Russia to help him. Mueller found that the campaign turned over internal polling data and other campaign information to a associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. You are the one pulling the con.

 

[bripat9643]

Facts, shitferbrains.

1) Assange has repeatedly stated that no state actor (that means a government, numbnutz) aided him in getting the information he had.

2) The data transfer rates from the DNC servers were to fast to have gone over the internet....They were downloaded at the source onto disks or thumb drives.

Assange has been supported by Vladimir Putin so what Assange says is meaningless.

The DNC servers were hacked by the Russians just as they launched a phishing attack on Podesta. Also the e-mails of French President Macron was hacked as well.

There isn't a scrap of evidence to support that claim.

You're a lying moron.

Putin himself defended Assange from the criminal charges Assange faced. He funneled money to Assange through a program called Russia Today. Those are several ties that Russia has to Assange.

You are the lying moron.

Donald Trump, Julian Assange and Russia: How they're connected, and how they changed an election

ROFL! You mean RT interviewed Assange? Diabolical! They probably interviewed Nazi Pelosi, you fucking dumbass.

You are the fucking dumbass. Boys like you should not lie. You use the default excuse that allows you to avoid facts.

Prove that Russia funded Assange. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Already done that. You refuse to accept reality. I am not going to shut up fucker. Try to make me. That is apparently the limit of your intelligence.

You didn't prove squat. You posted a link to an article behind a paywall.

 

[bripat9643]

Well, I would disagree, the contents were far more explosive.

OTH, yes, you are right, folks have been completely gaslit, they DON'T remember or know. THAT is the whole point. Focus them on, and distract them with a made up Russian story, and make them forget about the real important stuff, i.e. the contents of those emails.

The main thrust of them were about Hillary lying about who she is, taking huge campaign contributions from the tech sector and Wall-street, and her campaign controlling the entire media establishment to get elected.

How is it made up if it happened?

It didn't. Or at least, there is no evidence that it did. The preponderance of evidence is that the emails were leaked, and that they were stolen.

I suppose, it is possible a Russian Agent got into the headquarters of the DNC. .

Seth Rich is Jewish though, not Russian.

Seth Rich's early life and career
Rich grew up in a Jewish family in Omaha, Nebraska.[25][26][27] He volunteered for the Nebraska Democratic Party, interned for Senator Ben Nelson, was active in Jewish outreach,[28] and worked with the United States Census Bureau.[29][30] In 2011, he graduated from Creighton University with a degree in political science.[30][31] He moved to Washington, D.C. to work for pollster Greenberg Quinlan Rosner.[30] In 2014, he began working for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as the Voter Expansion Data Director. One of his tasks at the DNC was the development of a computer application to help voters locate polling stations.[32][33][34]
Murder of Seth Rich - Wikipedia

I suppose that Seth Rich launched a phishing attack on Podesta. Or he hacked Macron's e-mails when he was running against a Moscow backed candidate. Absolutely no evidence of this crazy conspiracy theory.

Says the guy who defended the "Russia! Russia! Russia!" con for 3 years.

It is very clear that Trump wanted Russia to help him. Mueller found that the campaign turned over internal polling data and other campaign information to a associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. You are the one pulling the con.

Pure fantasy.

 

[wamose]

The Latest: Democrats win control of Virginia statehouse | Daily Mail Online

Do yesterdays results have give any indications for the next elections or is it just local stuff ?

I have been reading about a pro trump backlash over the "fake impeachment" hearings but I cant see evidence of that. But I cant see the Gop vote collapsing completely either.

Too close to call ?

Republicans won all the races in Kentucky except for Governor and the Governor was 17 points behind before Trump came in.....he lost by a few thousand, which the democrats likely stole.....

Virginia has turned blue because it is next to D.C....the cancer is spreading.....

Trump is filling stadiums, with 10s of thousands waiting outside.....he is breaking campaign donation records......

So.......celebrate now, we will see you in 2020....

Bevins was never down by 17. The polls showed Bevins was up by single digits days before the election and before Trump's visit. Bevins lost because he ran behind Republicans in suburban counties. Bevins was correctly described as Trump before there was a Trump. Democrats stole no votes.

Virginia turned blue because suburban voters have turned against the GOP. Just as they did in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Just as they did in Georgia and Texas to name a few states. These suburban areas are not next to DC.

Sooner or later the suburbs are going to get tired of the cities dumping their shit on them. Cities and Democrats have nothing worthwhile to offer. That's why they're concentrating on impeachment. The upper middle class that is exemplified by suburbs have the most to lose under socialism. And it should be abundantly clear by now, the Democrat party is now solidly, majority socialist.

It is abundantly clear that the Republican Party is for dirty air, dirty water and destruction of wildlife habitats. Tax cuts for the rich and powerful. The rural areas are where white supremacists and neo-nazis reside.

Come on Qdog. The Republicans I know out here in suburbia only like dirty potatoes. We consider Democrats the dirtiest thing we have to come in contact with and I say that even though I have a yard skunk that comes around here every morning. He's my pal and we have an understanding.

 

[toobfreak]

Well, I would disagree, the contents were far more explosive.

OTH, yes, you are right, folks have been completely gaslit, they DON'T remember or know. THAT is the whole point. Focus them on, and distract them with a made up Russian story, and make them forget about the real important stuff, i.e. the contents of those emails.

The main thrust of them were about Hillary lying about who she is, taking huge campaign contributions from the tech sector and Wall-street, and her campaign controlling the entire media establishment to get elected.

How is it made up if it happened?

It didn't. Or at least, there is no evidence that it did. The preponderance of evidence is that the emails were leaked, and that they were stolen.

I suppose, it is possible a Russian Agent got into the headquarters of the DNC. .

Seth Rich is Jewish though, not Russian.

Seth Rich's early life and career
Rich grew up in a Jewish family in Omaha, Nebraska.[25][26][27] He volunteered for the Nebraska Democratic Party, interned for Senator Ben Nelson, was active in Jewish outreach,[28] and worked with the United States Census Bureau.[29][30] In 2011, he graduated from Creighton University with a degree in political science.[30][31] He moved to Washington, D.C. to work for pollster Greenberg Quinlan Rosner.[30] In 2014, he began working for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as the Voter Expansion Data Director. One of his tasks at the DNC was the development of a computer application to help voters locate polling stations.[32][33][34]
Murder of Seth Rich - Wikipedia

I suppose that Seth Rich launched a phishing attack on Podesta. Or he hacked Macron's e-mails when he was running against a Moscow backed candidate. Absolutely no evidence of this crazy conspiracy theory.

Says the guy who defended the "Russia! Russia! Russia!" con for 3 years.

It is very clear that Trump wanted Russia to help him.

It is very clear that Biden wanted Ukraine to help him.
I think it would be a long stretch to find a presidency where the president didn't want to get things from other countries as well as offer them. That's politics.

 

[bendog]

Well that and the Democrats all have to go through a primary election which helps Trump's odds.

Well, I'd think that normally a primary would improve dems' chances by winnowing out unpopular ideas, but the problem is that the dems (and Trump's party) may be so enamoured with policies popular to them but unpopular to the majority … that we're fucked no matter who wins.

What will fuck us more than anything will prolly be what fucked us the last time ----- voters checking the box on the basis of "I've heard of this guy, I've seen him on TV, all hail TV, TV is my Master, must ... obey...TV".

--which reminds us that POTUS elections are all about marketing and advertising, which in turn reminds us that advertising is the process of persuading the masses to buy stuff they don't need.

As well as the age-old truism that "nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public".

Well, imo, most voters have rational reasons for voting. We may not agree with them. Here in Miss I think one visit by Jr, two by Pence and at least one by Orange made sure the goper won as governor, and the Trump message was the dem candidate didn't stand by Trump against the Dems' attempts to steal his 16 election. The 16 election didn't have to do anything to the governor election, and the dem was a blue dog pro gun anti abortion ex-prosecutor with a record on cracking down on domestic abuse and child porn, and the issues were the dems wanted to save rural healthcare with no cost to taxpayers and a small road tax … both of which are popular to about 60%. The republican was going to win regardless, but Trump's argument hit a chord.

But the winner has to control the message. Bill Clinton was really good at that. So was Obama v. Romney. W was good too.

But this election is going to be decided by at most 2 million, and more likely one million, in Wisc, Mich, Pa and Fla. And single payer, freecollege, open borders and class warfare isn't gonna get those people. In 16, Hillary's corruption and the interventions by Comey and Putin didn't let her get those voters. Trump's going to have voter enthusiasm. And Trump's proven he can motivate dem voters too.

I disagree. Texas, Arizona and Georgia are also in play. Pennsylvania and Michigan are likely to go Democrat. Republicans are offering us such things as kicking people off of their insurance. The number of uninsured has gone up since Trump took office. Then we have tax cuts for the rich and powerful. Dirty air and water and destruction of wildlife habitat. Cruelty towards people who are fleeing in fear of their lives. Trump also motivates people to vote against him as well. Women have been voting for Democrats by larger numbers than they voted for Clinton.

That triad of Pennsylvania/Wisconsin/Michigan that infamously tilted Rump in and thereby averted "riots", not one of them were able to choose a candidate. Nobody broke 50% in any of them. That's a rather soft landing.

The same was true in AridZona. And several other states including this one, including Florida, even including Utah. You don't get much more "red" than Utah and Rump couldn't swing a majority of the state's vote even with an R dangling after his mane.

Jill Stein and now Tulsi though

 

[Pogo]

Well, I'd think that normally a primary would improve dems' chances by winnowing out unpopular ideas, but the problem is that the dems (and Trump's party) may be so enamoured with policies popular to them but unpopular to the majority … that we're fucked no matter who wins.

What will fuck us more than anything will prolly be what fucked us the last time ----- voters checking the box on the basis of "I've heard of this guy, I've seen him on TV, all hail TV, TV is my Master, must ... obey...TV".

--which reminds us that POTUS elections are all about marketing and advertising, which in turn reminds us that advertising is the process of persuading the masses to buy stuff they don't need.

As well as the age-old truism that "nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public".

Well, imo, most voters have rational reasons for voting. We may not agree with them. Here in Miss I think one visit by Jr, two by Pence and at least one by Orange made sure the goper won as governor, and the Trump message was the dem candidate didn't stand by Trump against the Dems' attempts to steal his 16 election. The 16 election didn't have to do anything to the governor election, and the dem was a blue dog pro gun anti abortion ex-prosecutor with a record on cracking down on domestic abuse and child porn, and the issues were the dems wanted to save rural healthcare with no cost to taxpayers and a small road tax … both of which are popular to about 60%. The republican was going to win regardless, but Trump's argument hit a chord.

But the winner has to control the message. Bill Clinton was really good at that. So was Obama v. Romney. W was good too.

But this election is going to be decided by at most 2 million, and more likely one million, in Wisc, Mich, Pa and Fla. And single payer, freecollege, open borders and class warfare isn't gonna get those people. In 16, Hillary's corruption and the interventions by Comey and Putin didn't let her get those voters. Trump's going to have voter enthusiasm. And Trump's proven he can motivate dem voters too.

I disagree. Texas, Arizona and Georgia are also in play. Pennsylvania and Michigan are likely to go Democrat. Republicans are offering us such things as kicking people off of their insurance. The number of uninsured has gone up since Trump took office. Then we have tax cuts for the rich and powerful. Dirty air and water and destruction of wildlife habitat. Cruelty towards people who are fleeing in fear of their lives. Trump also motivates people to vote against him as well. Women have been voting for Democrats by larger numbers than they voted for Clinton.

That triad of Pennsylvania/Wisconsin/Michigan that infamously tilted Rump in and thereby averted "riots", not one of them were able to choose a candidate. Nobody broke 50% in any of them. That's a rather soft landing.

The same was true in AridZona. And several other states including this one, including Florida, even including Utah. You don't get much more "red" than Utah and Rump couldn't swing a majority of the state's vote even with an R dangling after his mane.

Jill Stein and now Tulsi though

Jill Stein did a third party --- actually a fourth party, everybody seems to want to step right over Gary Johnson who outpolled her as if he was never there.

Tulsi ain't doing that anyway.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Trump brought Bevins numbers up from 20 points down to too close to call

You mean he did for Bevin what he did for Roy Moore?

Again Trump brought Bevins numbers up instead of a blowout now it's too close to call

Bevins support of Trump hurt him in the suburbs

Bevins hurt himself Trump picked Bevins up and got him in a winning position

The last poll pre-Trump visit had Bevins up by 5. Post Trump visit, Bevins lost by 0.5 points.

the last poll before Trump? I wasn't talking about the last poll. I suggest you look at the link I posted

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Watch Trump's prediction about Governor of Kentucky - CNN Video

"You have to go vote. Because beyond even the governorship..." blah blah blah "...if you lose it sends a really bad message. YOU CAN'T LET THAT HAPPEN TO ME!"

Trump brought Bevins numbers up from 20 points down to too close to call

You mean he did for Bevin what he did for Roy Moore?

Again Trump brought Bevins numbers up instead of a blowout now it's too close to call

Bevins support of Trump hurt him in the suburbs

I don't agree with that. Bevins shared many of the characteristics of Trump. He attacked teachers for wanting better salaries. Suburban voters voted against Bevins not Trump.

No Bevin did not try again

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It's certainly a much bigger uphill battle for Comrade Donald in 2020 since Putin is no longer able to help him.

I can't wait for the next election just to watch you snowflakes melt again. lol

 

[bigrebnc1775]

The Latest: Democrats win control of Virginia statehouse | Daily Mail Online

Do yesterdays results have give any indications for the next elections or is it just local stuff ?

I have been reading about a pro trump backlash over the "fake impeachment" hearings but I cant see evidence of that. But I cant see the Gop vote collapsing completely either.

Too close to call ?

Republicans won all the races in Kentucky except for Governor and the Governor was 17 points behind before Trump came in.....he lost by a few thousand, which the democrats likely stole.....

Virginia has turned blue because it is next to D.C....the cancer is spreading.....

Trump is filling stadiums, with 10s of thousands waiting outside.....he is breaking campaign donation records......

So.......celebrate now, we will see you in 2020....

Bevins was never down by 17. The polls showed Bevins was up by single digits days before the election and before Trump's visit. Bevins lost because he ran behind Republicans in suburban counties. Bevins was correctly described as Trump before there was a Trump. Democrats stole no votes.

Virginia turned blue because suburban voters have turned against the GOP. Just as they did in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Just as they did in Georgia and Texas to name a few states. These suburban areas are not next to DC.

At one point Bevins was down close to that.

 

[busybee01]

Still mad about those Facebook ads?

Of course. You're not upset that a foreign government was able to interfere with our presidential election?

I'm not upset at all that some Russian dudes posted a few ads on Facebook. I am upset that our so called "News" Media is engaged in influencing our election every minute of every day.

To be sure Mike, EVERY KNOWN influence affecting the 2016 election outside the normal channels CAME FROM THE DEMOCRATS. That is what made the entire Mueller investigation and now the impeachment investigation so funny.

1. DNC rigging the electors so that Bernie couldn't win nomination no matter what.
2. Hillary and the DNC fixing the Steele Dossier.
3. The FBI fixing the FISA court.
4. CNN and Donna Brazille stealing debate questions.
5. The DNC trying to turn Trump rallies violent then blame him.
6. Perpetual lies about Trump by the liberal media.
   
7. James Comey dropping charges on Hillary, his admitted felon, to keep her in the race.
8. Hillary avoiding the media for 235 days during the campaign.
9. And the DNC using the Steele Dossier and Comey as grounds to start the Mueller Witch Trials.

The hypocrisy is stunning.

1. Bernie had no chance to win the nomination.

BESIDES THE POINT.​

2. The Steele dossier got several facts right. It pointed out the Russian attempt to help Trump when that was not common knowledge. It also correctly pointed out a Russian spy who ostensibly worked at the Russian embassy.

IRRELEVANT. None of that changed the election and it still involved the DNC using a foreign power to help bring down a president.​

5. Trump urged his supporters to attack protestors and said he would pay their legal fees.

WAS HE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT THAT? Why so you take that literal but nothing else? Meantime, DEMOCRATS WERE URGING PEOPLE TO ATTACK, SPIT ON, HARASS AND JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE TO TRUMP AND HIS SUPPORTERS!​

6. Anything that conflicts with your view is a perpetual lie even if it is the truth. Trump is a proven liar.

NAME ME A PRESIDENT WHO ISN'T A PROVEN LIAR. At least Trump mainly lies about stupid stuff, not our healthcare.​

BOTTOM LINE: there is nothing you cannot point at TRump for the Democrats haven't done and maybe 10X worse.

1. There was no rigged system. Clinton got a majority of the votes and won the nomination. The DNC supported Clinton in 2008 and Obama got the nomination.

2. The Steele document was never used in the election. Steele was a private investigator who used his contacts in Russia to get information. At least part of it was right. There were no foreign powers involved. Russia did interfere in our elections to help Trump.

5. He was really serious about that. Anything Trump says is not serious but anything anyone else says is serious. Trump has inspired several mass shootings and acts of terrorism.

6. No President was as big a liar as Trump is. Pretty much everything he says is a lie.

BOTTOM LINE: Trump has taken actions and said things no President has ever said or done. Trump has dragged the office of President to new lows. No one even comes close.

 

[busybee01]

The Latest: Democrats win control of Virginia statehouse | Daily Mail Online

Do yesterdays results have give any indications for the next elections or is it just local stuff ?

I have been reading about a pro trump backlash over the "fake impeachment" hearings but I cant see evidence of that. But I cant see the Gop vote collapsing completely either.

Too close to call ?

Republicans won all the races in Kentucky except for Governor and the Governor was 17 points behind before Trump came in.....he lost by a few thousand, which the democrats likely stole.....

Virginia has turned blue because it is next to D.C....the cancer is spreading.....

Trump is filling stadiums, with 10s of thousands waiting outside.....he is breaking campaign donation records......

So.......celebrate now, we will see you in 2020....

Bevins was never down by 17. The polls showed Bevins was up by single digits days before the election and before Trump's visit. Bevins lost because he ran behind Republicans in suburban counties. Bevins was correctly described as Trump before there was a Trump. Democrats stole no votes.

Virginia turned blue because suburban voters have turned against the GOP. Just as they did in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Just as they did in Georgia and Texas to name a few states. These suburban areas are not next to DC.

At one point Bevins was down close to that.

He was never down by even double digits. He was not even close.

 

[busybee01]

How is it made up if it happened?

It didn't. Or at least, there is no evidence that it did. The preponderance of evidence is that the emails were leaked, and that they were stolen.

I suppose, it is possible a Russian Agent got into the headquarters of the DNC. .

Seth Rich is Jewish though, not Russian.

Seth Rich's early life and career
Rich grew up in a Jewish family in Omaha, Nebraska.[25][26][27] He volunteered for the Nebraska Democratic Party, interned for Senator Ben Nelson, was active in Jewish outreach,[28] and worked with the United States Census Bureau.[29][30] In 2011, he graduated from Creighton University with a degree in political science.[30][31] He moved to Washington, D.C. to work for pollster Greenberg Quinlan Rosner.[30] In 2014, he began working for the Democratic National Committee (DNC) as the Voter Expansion Data Director. One of his tasks at the DNC was the development of a computer application to help voters locate polling stations.[32][33][34]
Murder of Seth Rich - Wikipedia

I suppose that Seth Rich launched a phishing attack on Podesta. Or he hacked Macron's e-mails when he was running against a Moscow backed candidate. Absolutely no evidence of this crazy conspiracy theory.

Says the guy who defended the "Russia! Russia! Russia!" con for 3 years.

It is very clear that Trump wanted Russia to help him. Mueller found that the campaign turned over internal polling data and other campaign information to a associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. You are the one pulling the con.

Pure fantasy.

You are the one who lives on fantasy island.

 

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Assange has been supported by Vladimir Putin so what Assange says is meaningless.

The DNC servers were hacked by the Russians just as they launched a phishing attack on Podesta. Also the e-mails of French President Macron was hacked as well.

Putin himself defended Assange from the criminal charges Assange faced. He funneled money to Assange through a program called Russia Today. Those are several ties that Russia has to Assange.

You are the lying moron.

Donald Trump, Julian Assange and Russia: How they're connected, and how they changed an election

ROFL! You mean RT interviewed Assange? Diabolical! They probably interviewed Nazi Pelosi, you fucking dumbass.

You are the fucking dumbass. Boys like you should not lie. You use the default excuse that allows you to avoid facts.

Prove that Russia funded Assange. Otherwise, shut the fuck up.

Already done that. You refuse to accept reality. I am not going to shut up fucker. Try to make me. That is apparently the limit of your intelligence.

You didn't prove squat. You posted a link to an article behind a paywall.

There is no paywall you lying little weasel.

 

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The Latest: Democrats win control of Virginia statehouse | Daily Mail Online

Do yesterdays results have give any indications for the next elections or is it just local stuff ?

I have been reading about a pro trump backlash over the "fake impeachment" hearings but I cant see evidence of that. But I cant see the Gop vote collapsing completely either.

Too close to call ?

Republicans won all the races in Kentucky except for Governor and the Governor was 17 points behind before Trump came in.....he lost by a few thousand, which the democrats likely stole.....

Virginia has turned blue because it is next to D.C....the cancer is spreading.....

Trump is filling stadiums, with 10s of thousands waiting outside.....he is breaking campaign donation records......

So.......celebrate now, we will see you in 2020....

Bevins was never down by 17. The polls showed Bevins was up by single digits days before the election and before Trump's visit. Bevins lost because he ran behind Republicans in suburban counties. Bevins was correctly described as Trump before there was a Trump. Democrats stole no votes.

Virginia turned blue because suburban voters have turned against the GOP. Just as they did in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Just as they did in Georgia and Texas to name a few states. These suburban areas are not next to DC.

Sooner or later the suburbs are going to get tired of the cities dumping their shit on them. Cities and Democrats have nothing worthwhile to offer. That's why they're concentrating on impeachment. The upper middle class that is exemplified by suburbs have the most to lose under socialism. And it should be abundantly clear by now, the Democrat party is now solidly, majority socialist.

It is abundantly clear that the Republican Party is for dirty air, dirty water and destruction of wildlife habitats. Tax cuts for the rich and powerful. The rural areas are where white supremacists and neo-nazis reside.

Come on Qdog. The Republicans I know out here in suburbia only like dirty potatoes. We consider Democrats the dirtiest thing we have to come in contact with and I say that even though I have a yard skunk that comes around here every morning. He's my pal and we have an understanding.

Apparently voters in the Cincinnati suburbs, Pennsylvania suburbs and others do not. Democrats picked up suburban House seats in red states like SC, Georgia, Oklahoma and Texas