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All you need to know about 2020 is that Trump is running against the democrats and Vegas has the following odds, with Trump the 2:1 favorite to win:
Donald Trump +130
Elizabeth Warren +275
Joe Biden +600
Pete Buttigieg +1200
 
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Should the vote count if they have illegals?
 

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Should the vote count if they have illegals?
It should not.

Should a vote count if a foreign government has been shown to have influenced the results?
 

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All you need to know about 2020 is that Trump is running against the democrats and Vegas has the following odds, with Trump the 2:1 favorite to win:
Donald Trump +130
Elizabeth Warren +275
Joe Biden +600
Pete Buttigieg +1200

So the democrats have lousy candidates, and even worse policies.
Here are many policies that the democrat candidates have supported:

1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. "Medicare for all", aka rationed healthcare, "Lois Lerners" in charge, and hospitals closing
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones" and Sharia Law
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property theft
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines
16. No offshore drilling
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Excuse the murder of unwanted newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie
32. LGBTQ rights, trannys in military
33. Hunt down suspected white supremacists, increase domestic surveillance
34. Add Senators and congressmen for DC and Puerto Rico
35. Be sure that any "red flag" laws exclude gang members (only get those rural guns)
36. Full welfare and free healthcare for illegal immigrants
This list is amazing.

It's one thing to be wrong but it's another to outright lie to make your case. At least 25 of these contain outright lies.

I personally like this one -
33. Hunt down suspected white supremacists, increase domestic surveillance

Really gives you a glimpse into the mindset of who this list is geared towards.

"How dare they hunt down WHITE supremacists! They should be focused on those dirty brown ones."
 
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Wow, is it possible that the "international" left has decided not to overthrow the U.S. government and instead concentrate on a fair election next year? Maybe not.
 

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All you need to know about 2020 is that Trump is running against the democrats and Vegas has the following odds, with Trump the 2:1 favorite to win:
Donald Trump +130
Elizabeth Warren +275
Joe Biden +600
Pete Buttigieg +1200

So the democrats have lousy candidates, and even worse policies.
Here are many policies that the democrat candidates have supported:

1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. "Medicare for all", aka rationed healthcare, "Lois Lerners" in charge, and hospitals closing
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones" and Sharia Law
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property theft
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines
16. No offshore drilling
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Excuse the murder of unwanted newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie
32. LGBTQ rights, trannys in military
33. Hunt down suspected white supremacists, increase domestic surveillance
34. Add Senators and congressmen for DC and Puerto Rico
35. Be sure that any "red flag" laws exclude gang members (only get those rural guns)
36. Full welfare and free healthcare for illegal immigrants
The odds are really irrelevant at this stage.None of the Dems is sure of a run so that would depress their chances. I dont think anyone is opposing Trump from his own side but I may be wrong.
 

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Should the vote count if they have illegals?
It should not.

Should a vote count if a foreign government has been shown to have influenced the results?
Absolutely... any evidence?
Absolutely? So a vote should count even if another country messes with our electoral process?

Interesting.
Yes find out who was influenced and take their votes away.. lol hahhahhahahahabba
 

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All you need to know about 2020 is that Trump is running against the democrats and Vegas has the following odds, with Trump the 2:1 favorite to win:
Donald Trump +130
Elizabeth Warren +275
Joe Biden +600
Pete Buttigieg +1200

So the democrats have lousy candidates, and even worse policies.
Here are many policies that the democrat candidates have supported:

1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. "Medicare for all", aka rationed healthcare, "Lois Lerners" in charge, and hospitals closing
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones" and Sharia Law
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property theft
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines
16. No offshore drilling
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Excuse the murder of unwanted newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie
32. LGBTQ rights, trannys in military
33. Hunt down suspected white supremacists, increase domestic surveillance
34. Add Senators and congressmen for DC and Puerto Rico
35. Be sure that any "red flag" laws exclude gang members (only get those rural guns)
36. Full welfare and free healthcare for illegal immigrants
This list is amazing.

It's one thing to be wrong but it's another to be outright lie to make your case. At least 25 of contain outright lies.

I personally like this one -
33. Hunt down suspected white supremacists, increase domestic surveillance

Really gives you a glimpse into the mindset of who this list is geared towards.

"How dare they hunt down WHITE supremacists! They should be focused on those dirty brown ones."
It is an amazing list, innit? Dood must work in a Strawman factory.
 

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Should the vote count if they have illegals?
It should not.

Should a vote count if a foreign government has been shown to have influenced the results?
Absolutely... any evidence?
Absolutely? So a vote should count even if another country messes with our electoral process?

Interesting.
Yes find out who was influenced and take their votes away.. lol hahhahhahahahabba
I mean this is the nicest way possible.

You're either not very smart or English isn't your first language and you're clearly having trouble keeping up.

Which is it?
 

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All you need to know about 2020 is that Trump is running against the democrats and Vegas has the following odds, with Trump the 2:1 favorite to win:
Donald Trump +130
Elizabeth Warren +275
Joe Biden +600
Pete Buttigieg +1200

So the democrats have lousy candidates, and even worse policies.
Here are many policies that the democrat candidates have supported:

1. Open borders, tear down the southern border fence/wall
2. Sanctuary cities & states
3. Free college
4. "Medicare for all", aka rationed healthcare, "Lois Lerners" in charge, and hospitals closing
5. Eliminate ICE and DHS, turn the US into the EU, with muslim "no go zones" and Sharia Law
6. Promote Globalism, whatever Wall Street wants Wall Street gets, see K-Street Cash
7. Paris Climate Change Treaty where the US pays $trillions to poor countries
8. Stupid trade agreements, e.g tax breaks to move factories overseas
9. Let China run roughshod over the US for trade and intellectual property theft
10. Let NK develop nukes and ICBM delivery systems, have no one capable of dealing with NK
11. Raise taxes to 70% on the wealthy, especially on corporations so they relocate overseas
12. Opioid problem running rampant across the US
13. Gangs like MS-13 running rampant across the US
14. No steel or mining industries due to foreign "dumping" of subsidized products
15. No new pipelines
16. No offshore drilling
17. The dems' "Central Committee" appoints super-delegates to subvert real voters in primaries
18. Pack the US Supreme Court to promote liberal policies
19. Impeach anyone they deem not liberal enough, like Kavanaugh
20. Use the Federal Government to punish conservatives, like the IRS and Lois Lerner hounded conservatives
21. Use the Intel community to spy on the opposition party, like Hillary, FusionGPS, and the FBI/DOJ spied on Trump
22. Block voter ID laws to ensure fraud, and promote "vote harvesting" to steal elections
23. Refuse to provide funding for border walls/security, which DHS says is desperately needed.
24. Give $Trillions to Mexico and Central America for a Marshal Plan, but not help US citizens living in tent cities
25. Impose gun control, outlaw private gun sales, outlaw AR style rifles, restrict sales of bullets, etc.
26. "Green New Deal" Impose a "carbon tax" to punish anyone who works, heats their home, flies, or has a car
27. Anti-business democrat socialists caused Amazon to flee NYC taking 25,000 good paying jobs to VA
28. REPARATIONS to blacks to pay for slavery, $trillions owed by US voters
29. Excuse the murder of unwanted newborns, i.e. "infanticide"
30. Change the Electoral College to popular vote
31. All prisoners get to vote, even the Boston Marathon Bomber, so says Bernie
32. LGBTQ rights, trannys in military
33. Hunt down suspected white supremacists, increase domestic surveillance
34. Add Senators and congressmen for DC and Puerto Rico
35. Be sure that any "red flag" laws exclude gang members (only get those rural guns)
36. Full welfare and free healthcare for illegal immigrants
This list is amazing.

It's one thing to be wrong but it's another to be outright lie to make your case. At least 25 of contain outright lies.

I personally like this one -
33. Hunt down suspected white supremacists, increase domestic surveillance

Really gives you a glimpse into the mindset of who this list is geared towards.

"How dare they hunt down WHITE supremacists! They should be focused on those dirty brown ones."
Keyword "suspected". We all see how carelessly the left likes to sling around the term "white supremacist". They'll be more than happy to use red flag laws to persecute half the country for voting incorrectly. Besides, having unpopular opinions is not a crime.
 

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Should the vote count if they have illegals?
It should not.

Should a vote count if a foreign government has been shown to have influenced the results?
Do you have proof that any votes were affected in any elections by foreign interference? Didn't think so.
How about "free speech"? Can foreigners discuss politics on the USMB? Is that "interference"?
How can you police all foreign influence? Maybe if the ads are paid in a foreign currency?
How about foreigners donating to campaigns? How do you police that?
Foreign interference is not new, it has ALWAYS been there, in every election.
Voters just need to know bullshit when they see it.
 

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