2012: Obama Wins. Now what?

[Synthaholic]

As we have the last 3 years.

Sorry that overnight, Obama didn't fix the 8-years-in-the-making clusterfuck that Bush left us with.

Three years with a filibuster proof majority is not overnight, sweet cheeks.
Bush solved the Clinton recession within 18 months. This is the longest recession in history.

Obama had 4 months with a filibuster-proof majority.

You don't know anything, do you?

 

[Chris]

As we have the last 3 years.

And yet Obama solved the deficit problem just the same.

He solved it by making today's deficits look like surpluses compared to what he has in mind.
Is there any connection to reality you retain here?

Without the super committee, the spending cuts start automatically in January of 2013.

When the Bush tax cuts expire in December of 2012, Obama won't allow them to be renewed.

Spending cuts + a return to the old tax rates = deficit reduction.

Congress has been taken out of the equation. No treasonous Tea Party/Republicans to mess things up.

Absolutely a brilliant move by Obama.

 

[Chris]

As we have the last 3 years.

Sorry that overnight, Obama didn't fix the 8-years-in-the-making clusterfuck that Bush left us with.

Three years with a filibuster proof majority is not overnight, sweet cheeks.
Bush solved the Clinton recession within 18 months. This is the longest recession in history.

The recession ended two years ago.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Step two of socializing medicine. He won't need the health insurance companies to fund his next election so he can pull the rug out from under their feet and really screw Americans. He said it would take 15 - 20 years. This would get them halfway home.

Immie

Hate to break this, to you, Skippy, but.....the MEGA-HEALTH-IN$URANCE PROVIDER$ are (already) being jettisoned!!!​

"Employers' self-funded health care is not subject to conflicting state health insurance regulations/benefit mandates, as self-insured health plans are regulated under federal law!!

Sending FOR-PROFIT Providers PACKING!!!!

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It's called CHANGE, Skippy!!

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[Lakhota]

It's really hard to imagine a scenario that Obama won't win reelection. His only real competition is right-wing hatred.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Soon gridlock will mean end of Bush Tax cuts, then defense cuts, and Obamacare...Krugman loves it...

oh let's not forget about all the other cuts like obamacare. yes the cuts will effect it also. You thought the only thing that would be cut would be just from the military? silly child .

 

[Chris]

It's really hard to imagine a scenario that Obama won't win reelection. His only real competition is right-wing hatred.

Obama is going to win, no question.

The Republicans ran out of bullets when Obama snookered them on the Bush tax cuts and the supercomittee spending cuts.

The House Republicans lost all of their power the moment the supercommittee could not agree on the cuts.

An absolutely brilliant move by Obama.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

I watch a lot of people on here cry and whine.
I laugh because they thought the current crop of gop runners would win.i laugh and go find posts from people who said obama is another Carter and laugh at them.

Regardless ill enjoy the defeat if obama wins or not.

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....whatta commitment!!

How comical.....watchin' you ex-Teabaggers doing your slo-mo bailout!!​

 

[Ernie S.]

The GOP will need 67 votes in the Senate to over ride any BHO veto.

That won't happen next year.

Then NOTHING will get done until obama surrenders. If he refuses to play ball, he will be seen as the obstructionist and insure a Republican will occupy the White House for a good long time.
But why are we even arguing this?

Ain't gonna happen.

You don't get it..

Republicans don't have a ball to play. As the public remains sour on Congress and it's unwillingness to help people in need, Obama will be looked at as the only one in the room looking out for them

Republicans in Congress takes sides against Obama....they will lose

An 8% approval rating will do that

May I quote you on that a year from today?

 

[Lakhota]

It's really hard to imagine a scenario that Obama won't win reelection. His only real competition is right-wing hatred.

Obama is going to win, no question.

The Republicans ran out of bullets when Obama snookered them on the Bush tax cuts and the supercomittee spending cuts.

The House Republicans lost all of their power the moment the supercommittee could not agree on the cuts.

An absolutely brilliant move by Obama.

Yes, Obama is playing chess and the Tea-Publicans are playing checkers. It's funny to watch...

 

[Ernie S.]

If Obama is reelected in 2012, I hope he can provide single-payer health insurance for all. Single-payer - not just a Public Option.

I was wrong. You are not TDM's sober sock puppet. You are rdean's sock puppet on acid.

rdean is a great American patriot.

And you are Mahatma Gandhi.

 

[Oldstyle]

The GOP will need 67 votes in the Senate to over ride any BHO veto.

That won't happen next year.

yes..and? who is making an argument that would prompt that remark?

tinydancer is under the impression that a GOP House and Senate can pass legislation at will. They will find a second-term BHO will smile and say, "We will work together, or nothing will pass, and I will blame you to the American people." Worked for Clinton, and destroyed Newt opposing him.

If Republicans pass legislation in the House and the Senate...then President Obama regularly vetoes what has been passed...what he will be doing is going directly against a mandate given by the American people to do something different than we've done for the past three years. 2012's elections will be a clear indication which direction the country wishes to proceed in. Either more tax and spend big government or spending cuts and a much smaller government. If Obama loses the Senate and the House remains Republican as well, then the voters will have sent him a message. If he fails to heed that message then he will very likely cement a legacy as one of the worst Presidents in the history of the country.

 

[Chris]

It's really hard to imagine a scenario that Obama won't win reelection. His only real competition is right-wing hatred.

Obama is going to win, no question.

The Republicans ran out of bullets when Obama snookered them on the Bush tax cuts and the supercomittee spending cuts.

The House Republicans lost all of their power the moment the supercommittee could not agree on the cuts.

An absolutely brilliant move by Obama.

Yes, Obama is playing chess and the Tea-Publicans are playing checkers. It's funny to watch...

I have to admit I was fooled.

I thought the Tea Party/Republicans were kicking Obama's ass, when in fact he was leading them into a trap and helping the country at the same time.

Brilliant!

 

[Mr. Shaman]

2012: Obama Wins. Now what?

Buy lots more gold & silver.

And bullets, cigaretts, and alcohol.

Right now BUD, STZ, and BEAM are all great buys.

.....For Teabaggers gettin' back to their natural-surroundings!!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZmMwP5bELE]Redneck Pride - YouTube[/ame]

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[Oddball]

Obama is going to win, no question.

The Republicans ran out of bullets when Obama snookered them on the Bush tax cuts and the supercomittee spending cuts.

The House Republicans lost all of their power the moment the supercommittee could not agree on the cuts.

An absolutely brilliant move by Obama.

Yes, Obama is playing chess and the Tea-Publicans are playing checkers. It's funny to watch...

I have to admit I was fooled.

I thought the Tea Party/Republicans were kicking Obama's ass, when in fact he was leading them into a trap and helping the country at the same time.

Brilliant!

DON'T...TAKE...THE...BROWN...ACID!

 

[Salt Jones]

- Democrats don't need another candidate. Obama has by far the largest odds of reelection and is the most popular elected official in the country by a wide margin. You clearly don't like him, but the Democratic voters who would choose a nominee have no reason to reject him.

Longtime democrat strategists Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen completely disagree.

When Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson accepted the reality that they could not effectively govern the nation if they sought re-election to the White House, both men took the moral high ground and decided against running for a new term as president. President Obama is facing a similar reality—and he must reach the same conclusion.

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Certainly, Mr. Obama could still win re-election in 2012. Even with his all-time low job approval ratings (and even worse ratings on handling the economy) the president could eke out a victory in November. But the kind of campaign required for the president's political survival would make it almost impossible for him to govern—not only during the campaign, but throughout a second term.

Put simply, it seems that the White House has concluded that if the president cannot run on his record, he will need to wage the most negative campaign in history to stand any chance. With his job approval ratings below 45% overall and below 40% on the economy, the president cannot affirmatively make the case that voters are better off now than they were four years ago. He—like everyone else—knows that they are worse off.

Patrick Caddell and Douglas Schoen: The Hillary Moment - WSJ.com

But you Boiking fluffers keep living your lie...It's becoming quite amusing.

Hillary won't run she knows she can't win the black vote and would crush any hope Chelsea has of ever running for any office as a democrat.

 

[francoHFW]

As we have the last 3 years.

Sorry that overnight, Obama didn't fix the 8-years-in-the-making clusterfuck that Bush left us with.

Three years with a filibuster proof majority is not overnight, sweet cheeks.
Bush solved the Clinton recession within 18 months. This is the longest recession in history.

A> He had a filibusterproof majority for 6 months, brainwashed MORON.

Clinton Recession LOL. This was the 2nd Pub Great Depression...ay caramba.

 

[Oddball]

- Democrats don't need another candidate. Obama has by far the largest odds of reelection and is the most popular elected official in the country by a wide margin. You clearly don't like him, but the Democratic voters who would choose a nominee have no reason to reject him.

Longtime democrat strategists Pat Caddell and Doug Schoen completely disagree.

When Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson accepted the reality that they could not effectively govern the nation if they sought re-election to the White House, both men took the moral high ground and decided against running for a new term as president. President Obama is facing a similar reality&#8212;and he must reach the same conclusion.

<snip>

Certainly, Mr. Obama could still win re-election in 2012. Even with his all-time low job approval ratings (and even worse ratings on handling the economy) the president could eke out a victory in November. But the kind of campaign required for the president's political survival would make it almost impossible for him to govern&#8212;not only during the campaign, but throughout a second term.

Put simply, it seems that the White House has concluded that if the president cannot run on his record, he will need to wage the most negative campaign in history to stand any chance. With his job approval ratings below 45% overall and below 40% on the economy, the president cannot affirmatively make the case that voters are better off now than they were four years ago. He&#8212;like everyone else&#8212;knows that they are worse off.

Patrick Caddell and Douglas Schoen: The Hillary Moment - WSJ.com

But you Boiking fluffers keep living your lie...It's becoming quite amusing.

Hillary won't run she knows she can't win the black vote and would crush any hope Chelsea has of ever running for any office as a democrat.

Hillary is only part of the story, dumbshit.

The only way that Little Lord Obammyroy can win is playing scorched Earth, which will leave him in no position whatsoever from which to govern.

 

[Oldstyle]

It's really hard to imagine a scenario that Obama won't win reelection. His only real competition is right-wing hatred.

Obama is going to win, no question.

The Republicans ran out of bullets when Obama snookered them on the Bush tax cuts and the supercomittee spending cuts.

The House Republicans lost all of their power the moment the supercommittee could not agree on the cuts.

An absolutely brilliant move by Obama.

Yes, Obama is playing chess and the Tea-Publicans are playing checkers. It's funny to watch...

Did you perhaps forget the whole thing about the Super Committee coming up with the cuts to pay for Obama's "jobs plan"? What this just proved beyond a shadow of a doubt is that Obama was lying through his teeth when he said that plan was "paid for". Yeah, absolutely "brilliant" move by the President!

Now somebody is going to stand on a debate stage with him when he tries to use the whole "I submitted a plan to create jobs that was totally paid for and the Republicans wouldn't vote for it!" and hand him his ass on a platter by simply pointing out that nothing in that plan was paid for. It was going to be another half a trillion bucks we were going to have to borrow.

Oh, and let's not forget that S&P has already expressed doubts about our being willing to make cuts to spending and warned that another credit downgrade was looming if in fact we DIDN'T make the cuts they were looking for. So how "brilliant" do you think it's going to look for the US to get downgraded TWICE under the same President when we haven't EVER been downgraded before in our history until now?

Have fun selling that chess move as "brilliant" Lakhota...

 

[Mr. Shaman]

You have to take the Senate. Screw Obama. If you have the House and the Senate the Bam Bam is toast.
It doesn't matter if he takes the Presidency.

The win is the Senate. That's what I'm signing up for. Let's remove O's power.

Nope!!!

The House is gonna get thinned-out (a few Republicans).

Remember all those big changes that were supposed to happen, after the 2010 Election????


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