What a game 1. Spurs played like crap for 3 quarters, just jump shooting like OKC does. Thankfully they woke up and started getting some in the paint. OKC on the other hand, jumpshoot city...will they ever figure out they need a post up game?
2012 NBA Playoffs
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I don't understand why Pierce, Rondo and Garnett can't put it together for 4 games? The ESPN guys said it. They have flashes of greatness. So Garnett can perform at a high level when he turns it up. Maybe its that he/they can't do it for a full game anymore. They are veterans so they have "flashes" of greatness but they are too old to play that way for an entire game.
The Spurs however, have figured it out. At least for now they have. But also consider all they did was win game one at home. BFD. Lose game two and you lose home court advantage. But it does look like the Spurs are going to be winning their 5th championship. Then Duncan will have as many rings as:
Magic Johnson, Dennis Rodman & Kobe Bryant
So who would you rather have on your team if they were both rookies? Duncan or Kobe? I'd rather have Duncan. Duncan didn't need Shaq to win 4 of his rings for him.
Take your blinders off man. The sexy Corvette that is the Thunder just ran into a brick wall.
As much as I like Harden(Sundevil!), he got schooled by the real Sixth Man - Ginobili.
Westbrook takes waaaaay too many pull up jumpers, and Durant couldn't handle the double teams.
No one to post up to = jumpshots all day.
The post game interviews said it all. Westbrook was asked what they need to do better, and he's like "we just need to make more baskets". Riiiiight....just keep shooting them jumpers.....they'll eventually get em to drop at a higher percentage than Tony/Manu lay ups.
Take your blinders off man. The sexy Corvette that is the Thunder just ran into a brick wall.
As much as I like Harden(Sundevil!), he got schooled by the real Sixth Man - Ginobili.
Westbrook takes waaaaay too many pull up jumpers, and Durant couldn't handle the double teams.
No one to post up to = jumpshots all day.
The post game interviews said it all. Westbrook was asked what they need to do better, and he's like "we just need to make more baskets". Riiiiight....just keep shooting them jumpers.....they'll eventually get em to drop at a higher percentage than Tony/Manu lay ups.
I just hate it that you are probably right. Maybe Duncan will get hurt. So there is still hope.
The Pistons didn't mind that Magic Johnson was hurt when we swept them in 1989. 
And probably Bird too. 
TheGreatGatsby
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They are going to regroup
With us behind them of course
Come on Thunder!
Take your blinders off man. The sexy Corvette that is the Thunder just ran into a brick wall.
As much as I like Harden(Sundevil!), he got schooled by the real Sixth Man - Ginobili.
Westbrook takes waaaaay too many pull up jumpers, and Durant couldn't handle the double teams.
No one to post up to = jumpshots all day.
The post game interviews said it all. Westbrook was asked what they need to do better, and he's like "we just need to make more baskets". Riiiiight....just keep shooting them jumpers.....they'll eventually get em to drop at a higher percentage than Tony/Manu lay ups.
I just hate it that you are probably right. Maybe Duncan will get hurt. So there is still hope.
Bird was out for the year with the achilles and McHale's ankles had already put him on his downhill. And of course Bias was dead. Reverse all of that and I'd easily take the Celts. But that's all part of the game and the Pistons were the best team in the east that year. They were also the best team in the league that year. Maybe they wouldn't have swept the Lakers if they were healthier, but as it was they kicked their butts. Really the Lakers were done by that point. Kareem was just a shell of himself by then. Even Worthy was down to human numbers. His 48.1 percent from the field wasn't the 63.8 percent he shot from the field in the 84 Finals when he drove to the hoop with more power and swiftness than arguably anyone ever.
Take your blinders off man. The sexy Corvette that is the Thunder just ran into a brick wall.
As much as I like Harden(Sundevil!), he got schooled by the real Sixth Man - Ginobili.
Westbrook takes waaaaay too many pull up jumpers, and Durant couldn't handle the double teams.
No one to post up to = jumpshots all day.
The post game interviews said it all. Westbrook was asked what they need to do better, and he's like "we just need to make more baskets". Riiiiight....just keep shooting them jumpers.....they'll eventually get em to drop at a higher percentage than Tony/Manu lay ups.
I just hate it that you are probably right. Maybe Duncan will get hurt. So there is still hope.
Bird was out for the year with the achilles and McHale's ankles had already put him on his downhill. And of course Bias was dead. Reverse all of that and I'd easily take the Celts. But that's all part of the game and the Pistons were the best team in the east that year. They were also the best team in the league that year. Maybe they wouldn't have swept the Lakers if they were healthier, but as it was they kicked their butts. Really the Lakers were done by that point. Kareem was just a shell of himself by then. Even Worthy was down to human numbers. His 48.1 percent from the field wasn't the 63.8 percent he shot from the field in the 84 Finals when he drove to the hoop with more power and swiftness than arguably anyone ever.
And what a team those Pistons were. Did you know those were the first years in Greece the NBA Finals were televised? So a lot of Europeans, at least Greeks, know about the Bad Boys. They heard about Bird and Magic, but they SAW the Pistons. And Jordan. Man is he a God. Just the look, the story, the history, the games, his voice, endorsement dollars, style, swagger, smack talk, numbers, etc. Add it all up and Jordan is the greatest ever.
I can't believe that ref gave the Celtics coach a technical for NOTHING! Tied at half time thanks to instant replay. Go Boston.
TheGreatGatsby
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ECF Gm 1 through 3 qtrs: The officiating has been a joke. The Heat are allowed to drape themselves on the C's and no calls but it's touch fouls at the other end. And then they've called all those nonsense T's too.
And even though the C's have played like crap I couldn't be more unimpressed by the heat. I wouldn't even take James/Wade over Pierce/Walker from back in the day. The Spurs will kill the Heat. They just don't have it.
And even though the C's have played like crap I couldn't be more unimpressed by the heat. I wouldn't even take James/Wade over Pierce/Walker from back in the day. The Spurs will kill the Heat. They just don't have it.
Consider a few things.
a. If/When Heat beat the C's, they'll be in the finals again. Win or lose, not too shabby. Especially without Bosh.
b. Celtics aren't playing that great either and they are still in it. The C's need to stop hacking. Tight D is ok but stop smacking the heats hands.
c. Always back in their day this and that. If they are old, retire. Sorry you aren't as good as you once was.
d. Its just game one, in Miami. Plenty of time to make adjustments. You only need to win one of the first two games and you steal home court advantage.
e. I think I want to see the Spurs beat up the Heat in the finals.
I just saw a phantom foul against the Heat! I think they are calling it pretty fair. No excuses, Lebron and Wade are flat out beating Boston's Big 3 and Rondo. With help from Battier and Miller.
I don't think Boston will get swept, but I don't think they will be beating the Heat. Its over Boston. Like Rasheed, Ben, Chauncey, Rip and Prince. Time to break up the team. Unless you want to keep making the Eastern Finals and losing? Because that you can do for a couple more years. Maybe. The Pistons decided to cut their loses and blow up the team. We could have competed for a couple more years, but not win it all. And that is really the only goal. So expect Boston to go 10 years again without making the playoffs. Like Wade and Shaq. Good for one but no more.
79 to 93. The Heat have won 4 in a row. So Heat v Spurs. Should be interesting. Will the Heat sweep the Celtics? Will the Celtics steal home court in game 2? Will the Thunder figure out the Spurs? Stay tuned.
TheGreatGatsby
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You saw a phantom foul on the Heat when the game was over? What does that prove? They make bad calls against the other team when games are over to hype the narrative that bad calls are routinely part of the game and should be. It's a false narrative. I've watched tons of international games in which there was not one bad call.
All of the technicals have been nonsense. The one on Ray Allen was after he did not even address the ref, after he had legally stolen the ball and they called a foul. They called a T, they made the free throw and the Mike Miller hit a three. Boom; 4 free points for the Heat.
High_Gravity
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They can if their roleplayers step up. Miller, Haslim, Battier. But I agree, they won't.
But will the Heat beat Boston? Lets not put the cart before the horse. FIrst the Heat gotta get past Boston. If Wade and Lebron do it without Bosh, the Celtics suck and they need to blow up that team. There is no next year. Next year they'll be watching the playoffs on tv. Come on Boston!
Avery Bradley is gone so Wade will be free to do what he wants, we beat Miami twice during the regular season with Bradley doing really good defense on Wade, we can't count on Ray Allen to really do much right now since hes playing hobbled. Bostons going to lose to Philly tomorrow anyways so its a waste of time talking about this.
Oh come on! You lose Avery Bradley and the Heat lose BOSH and you're crying? Avery who? All of the sudden he's the secret to the Celtics? And without him they can't win? Pathetic. I guess there will be an asterick on this season. Not because it was short, but because Avery Bradley wasn't able to play. You do the same thing for the Bird Celtics. If Bird wasn't broken or if Walton wasn't hurt. Blablabla. Fact is, Pistons, Lakers and Bulls all took their turn beating up on the Celtics. Sure the Celtics won 3 championships with Bird, but the Lakers and Bulls won more. And the Pistons won two. Back to back too!
Anyways, todays Celtics are done if they can't beat Philly or the Heat. Their time has passed. At least they won 1. Like the Pistons with Rasheed Wallace. Nothing to be ashamed of. Now dismantle that team and go through the growing pains Detroit is going through right now. Now all of the sudden NY, Chicago, Indiana, Philly and Miami are the top dogs in the East. Is Dwight Howard staying in Orlando?
But what will the Celtics do? Keep Rondo, Garnett and Pierce. Get rid of the rest.
Man fuckin relax, nobody here is ******* pathetic ok? if you watched the games during the regular season Bradley did a good job defending Wade, that played a big role in us beating them twice during the regular season. Now with him gone and Ray Allen hobbled Wade is free to do what he wants and we have nobody to guard Lebron either Pierce is not up to that anymore, Bosh or no Bosh Miami will win this in 5 games like last year so give it a rest.
High_Gravity
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They can if their roleplayers step up. Miller, Haslim, Battier. But I agree, they won't.
But will the Heat beat Boston? Lets not put the cart before the horse. FIrst the Heat gotta get past Boston. If Wade and Lebron do it without Bosh, the Celtics suck and they need to blow up that team. There is no next year. Next year they'll be watching the playoffs on tv. Come on Boston!
Avery Bradley is gone so Wade will be free to do what he wants, we beat Miami twice during the regular season with Bradley doing really good defense on Wade, we can't count on Ray Allen to really do much right now since hes playing hobbled. Bostons going to lose to Philly tomorrow anyways so its a waste of time talking about this.
Who do you keep? I say Bass, Bradley, Garnett, Pierce and Rondo. Anyone else I'm leaving out?
PLAYER POS
Ray Allen G
Brandon Bass F
Avery Bradley G
Marquis Daniels
Keyon Dooling G
Kevin Garnett F
Ryan Hollins C-F
JaJuan Johnson F
E'Twaun Moore G
Paul Pierce -
Mickael Pietrus G
Rajon Rondo G
Greg Stiemsma C
Sean Williams F-C
If you keep Garnett, Pierce and Rondo you basically have the same team just different role players, somebody will need to be bold and make a move, I just don't know what that is yet.
High_Gravity
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This is the way its going to be the whole series, Stern and the NBA aren't taking anymore chances with this Lebron and the Heat will get full support from the refs the whole way, Stern needs his Miami Heat to start winning championships.
After hearing Steven A, I couldn't agree with you more. He/You are so right. The refs literally took the fire from the Celtics at the time the score was even. No one even hit the deck and they had how many technicals called on them? The way Steven A put it, the Celtics were just coming off a game 7 with no sleep and they had the game tied at half time. With all the techs, it took the wind out of the Celtics sail. What the **** is going on with NBA playoff basketball? It used to be physical? COME ON! And turning your back to the ref is not enough to get a tech in the Eastern Conference Finals. These refs need to check themselves.
They should change the rule. Like in football, the ref has to explain what the penalty is all about. What would that ref have said? He's been harrassing me all game? Of course he is! He's the coach. But what did he say? Nothing? Just come on Bill? It was the way he said it? Did you learn that in NBA Coaching camp? Why all of the sudden so sensitive? Are you trying to get some national attention at the Celtics expense? Could it have been the crowd that caused it? No, because it was not in Boston. This was a fix. Seriously not cool.
Only Duncan or Durant stand in his way.
High_Gravity
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Stern is running out of patience, he needs his boys to start winning championships, expect even worse officiating if they face the Spurs.
High_Gravity
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HA Good luck to them, the officiating will be even worse when we get to that point.
Man fuckin relax, nobody here is ******* pathetic ok? if you watched the games during the regular season Bradley did a good job defending Wade, that played a big role in us beating them twice during the regular season. Now with him gone and Ray Allen hobbled Wade is free to do what he wants and we have nobody to guard Lebron either Pierce is not up to that anymore, Bosh or no Bosh Miami will win this in 5 games like last year so give it a rest.
I wonder what the next games will be like? More physical or has stern and the refs completely changed basketball for the worse forever?
OR, maybe in today's era where we have Ron Artest giving elbows or that guy who winked after laying a guy out to pay him back for something he did before or the Heat retaliating for something that was done to Wade or LeBron. Maybe the players are being a bit too obvious that they don't always go for the ball. If you were commish, how would you handle the cheap shots and fights?
So the refs are being overly sensitive to keep these guys in check. Just play ball. Maybe they didn't realize what they were doing?
I wonder what would get Stern to retire, and who would take over?
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