2012 NBA Playoffs

[theHawk]

I'm glad you said that. I agree he is the best too. Someone said he doesn't play defense? Is that true? I mean, is he weak at D? I don't see it when I watch.

And you reminded me that with Perkins and that other shot blocker, they have some bigs on their team that can play D. I'm feeling pretty good that the Spurs aren't as good as they seem. I'm hoping/expecting the Thunder to expose their weaknesses. Like they can't keep up with this young team. But the Spurs I'm sure have a plan. Crafty bastards.

So I'm assuming Boston v Heat. With Bosh back, I still feel pretty good that the Celtics got a shot. The Heat seem to be in trouble but maybe they will come out of their funk by the time they meet the Celtics. This will be a true test for the Celtics. No one has it easy on their way to the finals.

P.S. Is it possible the Spurs will sweep or the Thunder will sweep the Spurs? That would be great. Then the Thunder could watch the Heat and Celtics go 7 games because you just know they will.

And in the East its going to be physical. Dirty. Grind it out. Whoever wins will be all beat up by the time they meet the Thunder in the finals. And the Spurs v. Thunder won't be physical like that. It'll be more offensive.

I can't see the Thunder winning more than a game. They are a one-trick pony (Durant & Westbrook jumpshots). They are 1-2 versus Spurs this regular season, and in the one win Ginobli didn't play, Park and Blair didn't play the second half, and it was long before they got rid of Jefferson for Stephen Jackson and Diaw.

If they do win it all, they sure will have earned it. Dallas first round, then LA, then Spurs, then Heat/Celtics? I can't recall a championship having to go through all good teams like that. Not one cake walk in the bunch. And yet the Thunder have swept them all practically. One trick pony? God I hope they prove you guys all wrong. ALL of you. Not one B Ball fan I know isn't saying what you are saying. #$#*)$U#

I watched most of the LAL-OKC games, I saw a lot of run down the court and jump shot possessions for the Thunder. And don't kid yourself, the Mavs were a terrible team this year and the Lakers weren't much better, they've been completely disfunctional all year.
SAS and OKC have been the only elite teams in the west this year. Miami and Chicago were the only ones in the east this year....until their injuries to their stars.

Like Sir Charles says, you die by the jumpshot. My only worry is San Antonio will rely too heavily on the 3's as well.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

^^^

Comparing today's Sixers/Celtics series to the early 80's Celtics series is an insult to Bird and Dr. J. Both of their teams would have swept both of these teams.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Hmm. Will Ginobili break out of his slumber for this series?

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[sealybobo]

^^^ A few up ^^^

Spurs would have three-peat 2003-2005 had Stern not cheated. In the 04 series, they were up 2-0 on the Lakers and up 20 in the third quarter and all of the sudden Fisher, Horry and Dick Fox were allowed to hack at will while Joey Crawford and the boys swallowed their whistles.

And then that shot in Game 5 that Fisher made with .4. Give me a break. You don't have time to catch the ball, turn, cock the ball back, jump and fade away in .4. Hell, by the rules .3 is the absolute quickest you can get a shot off.

Then you would have to call in question every year Tim Donaghy worked in the NBA.

1994 to 2007

1994 Houston Rockets
1995 Houston Rockets
1996 Chicago Bulls
1997 Chicago Bulls
1998 Chicago Bulls
1999 San Antonio Spurs
2000 Los Angeles Lakers
2001 Los Angeles Lakers
2002 Los Angeles Lakers
2003 San Antonio Spurs
2004 Detroit Pistons
2005 San Antonio Spurs
2006 Miami Heat
2007 San Antonio Spurs

And Boston never even made the finals so don't worry about it.

 

[sealybobo]

I can't see the Thunder winning more than a game. They are a one-trick pony (Durant & Westbrook jumpshots). They are 1-2 versus Spurs this regular season, and in the one win Ginobli didn't play, Park and Blair didn't play the second half, and it was long before they got rid of Jefferson for Stephen Jackson and Diaw.

If they do win it all, they sure will have earned it. Dallas first round, then LA, then Spurs, then Heat/Celtics? I can't recall a championship having to go through all good teams like that. Not one cake walk in the bunch. And yet the Thunder have swept them all practically. One trick pony? God I hope they prove you guys all wrong. ALL of you. Not one B Ball fan I know isn't saying what you are saying. #$#*)$U#

I watched most of the LAL-OKC games, I saw a lot of run down the court and jump shot possessions for the Thunder. And don't kid yourself, the Mavs were a terrible team this year and the Lakers weren't much better, they've been completely disfunctional all year.
SAS and OKC have been the only elite teams in the west this year. Miami and Chicago were the only ones in the east this year....until their injuries to their stars.

Like Sir Charles says, you die by the jumpshot. My only worry is San Antonio will rely too heavily on the 3's as well.

I'm predicting the Thunder win it all. I think they are ready. And I have a whole list of people who I'll get to say I told them so. But I'll also be heartbroken if they lose because I want Durant to win a championship and who knows what will happen next year. Duncan, Ginobli and Parker already have rings. There isn't one other guy on that team that I can say I know, like or wish would get a ring. Boring. They won't be able to **** with the Thunder like they fucked with the weak ass Clippers.

The Thunder had a very difficult road to the Western Finals. You guys can say the Lakers and Mavericks were weak this year, but that's bullshit. They, like the Spurs, are championship teams. The Thunder have to go through 3 champs to get to the finals, and you guys want to down play that? That's bullshit. Who did the Spurs have to play? No one!

Oh, and I will agree with you a little because that's the only time the Spurs ever win a championship. In off/weak ass years. They never beat a Jordan team. They came in and snuck one in when Jordan retired. Then they snuck one in after the Lakers threepeated. Then they snuck one in after Detroit in 2004 and then they snuck another one in the year after Shaq got too old to beat Duncans ass. They are a shitty ass dynasty if you ask me.

And they won't sneak one by the Thunder. I'm ready to say NO WAY the Spurs can beat the Thunder. Its will go 6 games.

 

[sealybobo]

I can't see the Thunder winning more than a game. They are a one-trick pony (Durant & Westbrook jumpshots). They are 1-2 versus Spurs this regular season, and in the one win Ginobli didn't play, Park and Blair didn't play the second half, and it was long before they got rid of Jefferson for Stephen Jackson and Diaw.

If they do win it all, they sure will have earned it. Dallas first round, then LA, then Spurs, then Heat/Celtics? I can't recall a championship having to go through all good teams like that. Not one cake walk in the bunch. And yet the Thunder have swept them all practically. One trick pony? God I hope they prove you guys all wrong. ALL of you. Not one B Ball fan I know isn't saying what you are saying. #$#*)$U#

I watched most of the LAL-OKC games, I saw a lot of run down the court and jump shot possessions for the Thunder. And don't kid yourself, the Mavs were a terrible team this year and the Lakers weren't much better, they've been completely disfunctional all year.
SAS and OKC have been the only elite teams in the west this year. Miami and Chicago were the only ones in the east this year....until their injuries to their stars.

Like Sir Charles says, you die by the jumpshot. My only worry is San Antonio will rely too heavily on the 3's as well.

I wanted to compare who Jordan had to go through in 1990-91 when he won his first championship. That had to be the toughest year for him. First he had to go through NY, then Philly, then Detroit, who knocked the Celtics out, and then the Lakers.

Who was on NY and Philly back then? Were they good? I'm guessing Ewing and a young Iverson? I'll go check.

 

[sealybobo]

^^^

Comparing today's Sixers/Celtics series to the early 80's Celtics series is an insult to Bird and Dr. J. Both of their teams would have swept both of these teams.

Do you realize if Boston goes to the Finals and the Thunder beat them, the Thunder will have beaten 4 NBA championship teams in one playoffs. I don't think that has ever happened before. Remember I called it first.

As for Jordan's road to his first ring in 90: The 76er team back in 1990 looked pretty good, but they weren't champs, and the Knicks never won nothin either. But they did have to play Detroit and the Lakers.

And please, would you stop with this Bird worship. If he played today, blablabla. He does play today. His name is Dirk Nowitzski. In fact, Dirk would eat Birds lunch. Yea, I said it.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

^^^ A few up ^^^

Spurs would have three-peat 2003-2005 had Stern not cheated. In the 04 series, they were up 2-0 on the Lakers and up 20 in the third quarter and all of the sudden Fisher, Horry and Dick Fox were allowed to hack at will while Joey Crawford and the boys swallowed their whistles.

And then that shot in Game 5 that Fisher made with .4. Give me a break. You don't have time to catch the ball, turn, cock the ball back, jump and fade away in .4. Hell, by the rules .3 is the absolute quickest you can get a shot off.

Then you would have to call in question every year Tim Donaghy worked in the NBA.

1994 to 2007

1994 Houston Rockets
1995 Houston Rockets
1996 Chicago Bulls
1997 Chicago Bulls
1998 Chicago Bulls
1999 San Antonio Spurs
2000 Los Angeles Lakers
2001 Los Angeles Lakers
2002 Los Angeles Lakers
2003 San Antonio Spurs
2004 Detroit Pistons
2005 San Antonio Spurs
2006 Miami Heat
2007 San Antonio Spurs

And Boston never even made the finals so don't worry about it.

David Stern took over in 1984. That same year, heading into Game 6 of the Finals with the Celtics up 3 to 2, Stern told a fan (of all people) that the NBA needed a seventh game.

Game 6 ended up being horribly officiated throughout the game (it started with 3 bs fouls called on McHale in about 5 minutes of play to take him out of the first half). But still the Celtics were up by 11 (in LA) with 3:59 left in the the third quarter. But the officiating grew worse and the Lakers outscored them 48-24 from there to force the Game 7.

Bird found out about it before Game 7 and this was his response:

"Stern told a fan that the NBA needed a seven-game series, that the league needed the money. When the commissioner makes a statement like that to a fan, you know it's going to be tough. When Stern makes a statement like that, things are going to happen. You just don't make statements like that and not expect anything out of it. He's the commissioner and he shouldn't be saying anything like that. The NBA wanted a seventh game because they wanted to make more money and they got their wish. There is no reason for me to lie. He said it. He's a man and he'll live up to it. He may say he said it in jest. But I'm out there trying to make a living and win a championship."

The fine-happy commie, Stern never fined Bird for those comments. He knew he had been caught and he just preferred that it go away.

Game 6 was so terribly officiated, that the C's who lost by 9, probably would have won by 20 or 30 if not for the constant bad calls.

Stern's been rigging crap from the start. Do you know how he rigged Ewing going to the Knicks? Back in the day they did envelopes and not balls. He reached in to the bubble and he felt around for the envelope he wanted. He knew which one it was b/c it had a crease in the corner. He picked it up, he quickly slid the crease and then he breathed a sigh of relief. It's seriously all on tape.

You know who is go to man is? Joey Crawford. The guy was evicted of tax evasion in the early 90's. That's when Stern knew he had his man. Crawford was the ref for Game 1, Game 5 and Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals. He was looking right at the play where Gasol came down and traveled and then shot the ball in and he swallowed his whistle. That was the difference in the game. And you can figure that the reason he got in Tim Duncan's grill is b/c Tim was not who Stern wanted doing well.

Did you know that refs are paid more for just a few playoff games than they are for the entire regular season? Why do you think that is? They're all competing to see who can subtly cheat for the big market teams the best. Stern hand picks refs for each playoff game and there's a reason why you see Joey Crawford (among others) night after night when there's a huge pool of refs to choose from. And it's not seniority.

Do you know how much ratings went up during the 90's when the Bulls made finals? About triple. And that's why one year in the mid 90's (I think 96); Stern suspended like the best Knicks players for Game 6 in Madison Square Garden against the Heat. They lost that game and the next game against the Heat. But the Knicks were prime to beat the Bulls that year and cost the league millions.

Yea, Stern has been cheating all along. Don't kid yourself. It hasn't been a few isolated incidents. Small market teams are at a huge disadvantage. That's why like when the third so-called dream team went to the pan am games and they weren't getting star treatment and they realized they didn't know how to play basketball and they finished like 11th lol.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

^^^

Comparing today's Sixers/Celtics series to the early 80's Celtics series is an insult to Bird and Dr. J. Both of their teams would have swept both of these teams.

Do you realize if Boston goes to the Finals and the Thunder beat them, the Thunder will have beaten 4 NBA championship teams in one playoffs. I don't think that has ever happened before. Remember I called it first.

As for Jordan's road to his first ring in 90: The 76er team back in 1990 looked pretty good, but they weren't champs, and the Knicks never won nothin either. But they did have to play Detroit and the Lakers.

And please, would you stop with this Bird worship. If he played today, blablabla. He does play today. His name is Dirk Nowitzski. In fact, Dirk would eat Birds lunch. Yea, I said it.

Dirk is not even close to Bird. You don't have a grasp on how good Bird was if you're even trying to make that comparison. Where do you think Dirk ranks all time? Would you even put him in the top ten? It's not that close. For one thing, Bird was a better scorer and a way better passer, ball handler and defender. Bird is top 100 all-time on defense. He led his team in steal in all five championship series he played in. He did all sorts of intangibles that Dirk would never dream of. Seriously, stop insulting Bird's legacy with teenie bop comparisons. Heck, I wouldn't even put Dirk ahead of Kevin McHale.

As for the Thunder beating 4 champions (sorta); that's good in any era. I don't think they will beat the Spurs though. I'd give them the edge vs the Celtics and I'd probably give them the edge vs. the Heat as well.

 

[High_Gravity]

If they do win it all, they sure will have earned it. Dallas first round, then LA, then Spurs, then Heat/Celtics? I can't recall a championship having to go through all good teams like that. Not one cake walk in the bunch. And yet the Thunder have swept them all practically. One trick pony? God I hope they prove you guys all wrong. ALL of you. Not one B Ball fan I know isn't saying what you are saying. #$#*)$U#

I watched most of the LAL-OKC games, I saw a lot of run down the court and jump shot possessions for the Thunder. And don't kid yourself, the Mavs were a terrible team this year and the Lakers weren't much better, they've been completely disfunctional all year.
SAS and OKC have been the only elite teams in the west this year. Miami and Chicago were the only ones in the east this year....until their injuries to their stars.

Like Sir Charles says, you die by the jumpshot. My only worry is San Antonio will rely too heavily on the 3's as well.

I wanted to compare who Jordan had to go through in 1990-91 when he won his first championship. That had to be the toughest year for him. First he had to go through NY, then Philly, then Detroit, who knocked the Celtics out, and then the Lakers.

Who was on NY and Philly back then? Were they good? I'm guessing Ewing and a young Iverson? I'll go check.

Dude Iverson didn't come into the NBA until 1996. He was in Middle School in 1991.

 

[High_Gravity]

^^^

Comparing today's Sixers/Celtics series to the early 80's Celtics series is an insult to Bird and Dr. J. Both of their teams would have swept both of these teams.

Do you realize if Boston goes to the Finals and the Thunder beat them, the Thunder will have beaten 4 NBA championship teams in one playoffs. I don't think that has ever happened before. Remember I called it first.

As for Jordan's road to his first ring in 90: The 76er team back in 1990 looked pretty good, but they weren't champs, and the Knicks never won nothin either. But they did have to play Detroit and the Lakers.

And please, would you stop with this Bird worship. If he played today, blablabla. He does play today. His name is Dirk Nowitzski. In fact, Dirk would eat Birds lunch. Yea, I said it.

No way, Dirk is a very good player but he's no Larry Bird.

 

[sealybobo]

^^^ A few up ^^^

Spurs would have three-peat 2003-2005 had Stern not cheated. In the 04 series, they were up 2-0 on the Lakers and up 20 in the third quarter and all of the sudden Fisher, Horry and Dick Fox were allowed to hack at will while Joey Crawford and the boys swallowed their whistles.

And then that shot in Game 5 that Fisher made with .4. Give me a break. You don't have time to catch the ball, turn, cock the ball back, jump and fade away in .4. Hell, by the rules .3 is the absolute quickest you can get a shot off.

Then you would have to call in question every year Tim Donaghy worked in the NBA.

1994 to 2007

1994 Houston Rockets
1995 Houston Rockets
1996 Chicago Bulls
1997 Chicago Bulls
1998 Chicago Bulls
1999 San Antonio Spurs
2000 Los Angeles Lakers
2001 Los Angeles Lakers
2002 Los Angeles Lakers
2003 San Antonio Spurs
2004 Detroit Pistons
2005 San Antonio Spurs
2006 Miami Heat
2007 San Antonio Spurs

And Boston never even made the finals so don't worry about it.

David Stern took over in 1984. That same year, heading into Game 6 of the Finals with the Celtics up 3 to 2, Stern told a fan (of all people) that the NBA needed a seventh game.

Game 6 ended up being horribly officiated throughout the game (it started with 3 bs fouls called on McHale in about 5 minutes of play to take him out of the first half). But still the Celtics were up by 11 (in LA) with 3:59 left in the the third quarter. But the officiating grew worse and the Lakers outscored them 48-24 from there to force the Game 7.

Bird found out about it before Game 7 and this was his response:

"Stern told a fan that the NBA needed a seven-game series, that the league needed the money. When the commissioner makes a statement like that to a fan, you know it's going to be tough. When Stern makes a statement like that, things are going to happen. You just don't make statements like that and not expect anything out of it. He's the commissioner and he shouldn't be saying anything like that. The NBA wanted a seventh game because they wanted to make more money and they got their wish. There is no reason for me to lie. He said it. He's a man and he'll live up to it. He may say he said it in jest. But I'm out there trying to make a living and win a championship."

The fine-happy commie, Stern never fined Bird for those comments. He knew he had been caught and he just preferred that it go away.

Game 6 was so terribly officiated, that the C's who lost by 9, probably would have won by 20 or 30 if not for the constant bad calls.

Stern's been rigging crap from the start. Do you know how he rigged Ewing going to the Knicks? Back in the day they did envelopes and not balls. He reached in to the bubble and he felt around for the envelope he wanted. He knew which one it was b/c it had a crease in the corner. He picked it up, he quickly slid the crease and then he breathed a sigh of relief. It's seriously all on tape.

You know who is go to man is? Joey Crawford. The guy was evicted of tax evasion in the early 90's. That's when Stern knew he had his man. Crawford was the ref for Game 1, Game 5 and Game 7 of the 2010 NBA Finals. He was looking right at the play where Gasol came down and traveled and then shot the ball in and he swallowed his whistle. That was the difference in the game. And you can figure that the reason he got in Tim Duncan's grill is b/c Tim was not who Stern wanted doing well.

Did you know that refs are paid more for just a few playoff games than they are for the entire regular season? Why do you think that is? They're all competing to see who can subtly cheat for the big market teams the best. Stern hand picks refs for each playoff game and there's a reason why you see Joey Crawford (among others) night after night when there's a huge pool of refs to choose from. And it's not seniority.

Do you know how much ratings went up during the 90's when the Bulls made finals? About triple. And that's why one year in the mid 90's (I think 96); Stern suspended like the best Knicks players for Game 6 in Madison Square Garden against the Heat. They lost that game and the next game against the Heat. But the Knicks were prime to beat the Bulls that year and cost the league millions.

Yea, Stern has been cheating all along. Don't kid yourself. It hasn't been a few isolated incidents. Small market teams are at a huge disadvantage. That's why like when the third so-called dream team went to the pan am games and they weren't getting star treatment and they realized they didn't know how to play basketball and they finished like 11th lol.

Its like a mini illuminati. Stern at the helm. He represents the owners. Its like the Federal Reserve. We know Ben Bernacki but who does he work for?

I'm one to believe your conspiracy theories. And I like it that some players, like Bird, had the balls to call them out. Or Duncan, who probably won't go along with the program and still has multiiple rings. Lucky the players have a union. We bash the "greedy" basketball player but thats exactly what the owners want. Did you hear Shaq wants to buy the Orlando team? He wants to be "the man"!

 

[sealybobo]

^^^

Comparing today's Sixers/Celtics series to the early 80's Celtics series is an insult to Bird and Dr. J. Both of their teams would have swept both of these teams.

Do you realize if Boston goes to the Finals and the Thunder beat them, the Thunder will have beaten 4 NBA championship teams in one playoffs. I don't think that has ever happened before. Remember I called it first.

As for Jordan's road to his first ring in 90: The 76er team back in 1990 looked pretty good, but they weren't champs, and the Knicks never won nothin either. But they did have to play Detroit and the Lakers.

And please, would you stop with this Bird worship. If he played today, blablabla. He does play today. His name is Dirk Nowitzski. In fact, Dirk would eat Birds lunch. Yea, I said it.

Dirk is not even close to Bird. You don't have a grasp on how good Bird was if you're even trying to make that comparison. Where do you think Dirk ranks all time? Would you even put him in the top ten? It's not that close. For one thing, Bird was a better scorer and a way better passer, ball handler and defender. Bird is top 100 all-time on defense. He led his team in steal in all five championship series he played in. He did all sorts of intangibles that Dirk would never dream of. Seriously, stop insulting Bird's legacy with teenie bop comparisons. Heck, I wouldn't even put Dirk ahead of Kevin McHale.

As for the Thunder beating 4 champions (sorta); that's good in any era. I don't think they will beat the Spurs though. I'd give them the edge vs the Celtics and I'd probably give them the edge vs. the Heat as well.

I was giggling after I logged off thinking about how you would respond to me comparing Bird to Dirk. Offensively Dirk maybe could maybe beat Bird in a game of horse (not) but all the other things, Bird wins. And I was going to say the players are bigger and better today, but then I thought about the big ass Pistons, Portland, Lakers teams and they were not small soft men. Barkley and Ewing were not soft. They played physical. Tenatious D!

So in some ways, I wonder how well Dirk would do back in the Laker/Celtic/Piston/Bulls era? How about Shaq? Duncan? Lebron? Durant, Kobe, etc. Would Wade even be a starter on Birds team?

I think the stars of today would still be stars back then. How would Westbrook do against Isiah Thomas? How would John Starks do in today's NBA? Would Mourning in his prime be that good today? John Stockton or Jason Kidd?

 

[sealybobo]

I watched most of the LAL-OKC games, I saw a lot of run down the court and jump shot possessions for the Thunder. And don't kid yourself, the Mavs were a terrible team this year and the Lakers weren't much better, they've been completely disfunctional all year.
SAS and OKC have been the only elite teams in the west this year. Miami and Chicago were the only ones in the east this year....until their injuries to their stars.

Like Sir Charles says, you die by the jumpshot. My only worry is San Antonio will rely too heavily on the 3's as well.

I wanted to compare who Jordan had to go through in 1990-91 when he won his first championship. That had to be the toughest year for him. First he had to go through NY, then Philly, then Detroit, who knocked the Celtics out, and then the Lakers.

Who was on NY and Philly back then? Were they good? I'm guessing Ewing and a young Iverson? I'll go check.

Dude Iverson didn't come into the NBA until 1996. He was in Middle School in 1991.

I know. I went and saw who was on the team. Sir Charles. Gotta love the guy. My absolute favorite player who never won a championship. Does anyone have another they like better? Any Reggie Miller or Ewing jockers?

I'm feeling giddy because we are in the E and W finals finally. I can't wait. Hurry the **** up Boston! No pressure.

I'm going to get a lot more smack talky. I'm growing more and more confidence the Thunder are going to win it all. Miami is worrying me a little. They seem to have their mojo back. And first we have to get past the Spurs. Not an easy thing to do. But they don't win every year. And I think the Thunder are that damn good.

The Thunder are proving Rick Flair right. In order to be the man you got to beat the man. And so far 2 down, 2 to go.

 

[High_Gravity]

I wanted to compare who Jordan had to go through in 1990-91 when he won his first championship. That had to be the toughest year for him. First he had to go through NY, then Philly, then Detroit, who knocked the Celtics out, and then the Lakers.

Who was on NY and Philly back then? Were they good? I'm guessing Ewing and a young Iverson? I'll go check.

Dude Iverson didn't come into the NBA until 1996. He was in Middle School in 1991.

I know. I went and saw who was on the team. Sir Charles. Gotta love the guy. My absolute favorite player who never won a championship. Does anyone have another they like better? Any Reggie Miller or Ewing jockers?

I'm feeling giddy because we are in the E and W finals finally. I can't wait. Hurry the **** up Boston! No pressure.

I'm going to get a lot more smack talky. I'm growing more and more confidence the Thunder are going to win it all. Miami is worrying me a little. They seem to have their mojo back. And first we have to get past the Spurs. Not an easy thing to do. But they don't win every year. And I think the Thunder are that damn good.

The Thunder are proving Rick Flair right. In order to be the man you got to beat the man. And so far 2 down, 2 to go.

Miami isn't beating San Antonio or the Thunder without Bosh back at 100%, because of the high volume offense Lebron and Wade provide they can challenge but they can't beat those teams in a series.

 

[sealybobo]

Dude Iverson didn't come into the NBA until 1996. He was in Middle School in 1991.

I know. I went and saw who was on the team. Sir Charles. Gotta love the guy. My absolute favorite player who never won a championship. Does anyone have another they like better? Any Reggie Miller or Ewing jockers?

I'm feeling giddy because we are in the E and W finals finally. I can't wait. Hurry the **** up Boston! No pressure.

I'm going to get a lot more smack talky. I'm growing more and more confidence the Thunder are going to win it all. Miami is worrying me a little. They seem to have their mojo back. And first we have to get past the Spurs. Not an easy thing to do. But they don't win every year. And I think the Thunder are that damn good.

The Thunder are proving Rick Flair right. In order to be the man you got to beat the man. And so far 2 down, 2 to go.

Miami isn't beating San Antonio or the Thunder without Bosh back at 100%, because of the high volume offense Lebron and Wade provide they can challenge but they can't beat those teams in a series.

They can if their roleplayers step up. Miller, Haslim, Battier. But I agree, they won't.

But will the Heat beat Boston? Lets not put the cart before the horse. FIrst the Heat gotta get past Boston. If Wade and Lebron do it without Bosh, the Celtics suck and they need to blow up that team. There is no next year. Next year they'll be watching the playoffs on tv. Come on Boston!

 

[High_Gravity]

I know. I went and saw who was on the team. Sir Charles. Gotta love the guy. My absolute favorite player who never won a championship. Does anyone have another they like better? Any Reggie Miller or Ewing jockers?

I'm feeling giddy because we are in the E and W finals finally. I can't wait. Hurry the **** up Boston! No pressure.

I'm going to get a lot more smack talky. I'm growing more and more confidence the Thunder are going to win it all. Miami is worrying me a little. They seem to have their mojo back. And first we have to get past the Spurs. Not an easy thing to do. But they don't win every year. And I think the Thunder are that damn good.

The Thunder are proving Rick Flair right. In order to be the man you got to beat the man. And so far 2 down, 2 to go.

Miami isn't beating San Antonio or the Thunder without Bosh back at 100%, because of the high volume offense Lebron and Wade provide they can challenge but they can't beat those teams in a series.

They can if their roleplayers step up. Miller, Haslim, Battier. But I agree, they won't.

But will the Heat beat Boston? Lets not put the cart before the horse. FIrst the Heat gotta get past Boston. If Wade and Lebron do it without Bosh, the Celtics suck and they need to blow up that team. There is no next year. Next year they'll be watching the playoffs on tv. Come on Boston!

Avery Bradley is gone so Wade will be free to do what he wants, we beat Miami twice during the regular season with Bradley doing really good defense on Wade, we can't count on Ray Allen to really do much right now since hes playing hobbled. Bostons going to lose to Philly tomorrow anyways so its a waste of time talking about this.

 

[sealybobo]

Miami isn't beating San Antonio or the Thunder without Bosh back at 100%, because of the high volume offense Lebron and Wade provide they can challenge but they can't beat those teams in a series.

They can if their roleplayers step up. Miller, Haslim, Battier. But I agree, they won't.

But will the Heat beat Boston? Lets not put the cart before the horse. FIrst the Heat gotta get past Boston. If Wade and Lebron do it without Bosh, the Celtics suck and they need to blow up that team. There is no next year. Next year they'll be watching the playoffs on tv. Come on Boston!

Avery Bradley is gone so Wade will be free to do what he wants, we beat Miami twice during the regular season with Bradley doing really good defense on Wade, we can't count on Ray Allen to really do much right now since hes playing hobbled. Bostons going to lose to Philly tomorrow anyways so its a waste of time talking about this.

Oh come on! You lose Avery Bradley and the Heat lose BOSH and you're crying? Avery who? All of the sudden he's the secret to the Celtics? And without him they can't win? Pathetic. I guess there will be an asterick on this season. Not because it was short, but because Avery Bradley wasn't able to play. You do the same thing for the Bird Celtics. If Bird wasn't broken or if Walton wasn't hurt. Blablabla. Fact is, Pistons, Lakers and Bulls all took their turn beating up on the Celtics. Sure the Celtics won 3 championships with Bird, but the Lakers and Bulls won more. And the Pistons won two. Back to back too!

Anyways, todays Celtics are done if they can't beat Philly or the Heat. Their time has passed. At least they won 1. Like the Pistons with Rasheed Wallace. Nothing to be ashamed of. Now dismantle that team and go through the growing pains Detroit is going through right now. Now all of the sudden NY, Chicago, Indiana, Philly and Miami are the top dogs in the East. Is Dwight Howard staying in Orlando?

But what will the Celtics do? Keep Rondo, Garnett and Pierce. Get rid of the rest.

 

[sealybobo]

Miami isn't beating San Antonio or the Thunder without Bosh back at 100%, because of the high volume offense Lebron and Wade provide they can challenge but they can't beat those teams in a series.

They can if their roleplayers step up. Miller, Haslim, Battier. But I agree, they won't.

But will the Heat beat Boston? Lets not put the cart before the horse. FIrst the Heat gotta get past Boston. If Wade and Lebron do it without Bosh, the Celtics suck and they need to blow up that team. There is no next year. Next year they'll be watching the playoffs on tv. Come on Boston!

Avery Bradley is gone so Wade will be free to do what he wants, we beat Miami twice during the regular season with Bradley doing really good defense on Wade, we can't count on Ray Allen to really do much right now since hes playing hobbled. Bostons going to lose to Philly tomorrow anyways so its a waste of time talking about this.

Who do you keep? I say Bass, Bradley, Garnett, Pierce and Rondo. Anyone else I'm leaving out?


PLAYER POS
Ray Allen G
Brandon Bass F
Avery Bradley G
Marquis Daniels
Keyon Dooling G
Kevin Garnett F
Ryan Hollins C-F
JaJuan Johnson F
E'Twaun Moore G
Paul Pierce -
Mickael Pietrus G
Rajon Rondo G
Greg Stiemsma C
Sean Williams F-C

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Boston will likely win Game 7 at home. Philly's just not that good.

The C's would have a hard time beating the Heat no matter what b/c we all know how the calls will go. To win, the C's would have to fire on all remaining cylinders.

KG would need to anchor the team defensively and be productive on offense.

Pierce would have to have a few monster games.

Rondo would have to control games.

Hollins and Stiemsma would need to control the paint defensively.

Pietrus and Daniels would need to play great defense on James and Wade.

It's important to remember that the way the Heat killed the Celts last year in the playoffs is that all of the sudden Lebron James was on fire from the perimeter. You'll remember he melted from the perimeter against the Mavs. So I think it'll depend a lot on which LBJ shows up.