20,000 gun laws

[TemplarKormac]

You bring up an idea. We agree on it. Democrats propose it. Republicans block it. You justify Republicans blocking it.

No, I don’t think you’re upset with their actions on this at all.

You assume too much.

When democrats introduce clean legislation addressing the issue, then I will be upset with Republicans voting against it. Not before.

 

[XponentialChaos]

You ever notice how big some of these bills are that are introduced to the floor? That's because there are always superfluous items being added to the bill itself that have anything to do with the issue the bill is intended to address.

Post your evidence for that in this case.

Like I said, you’re assuming something shady so you can mindlessly fall in line with their actions.

 

[XponentialChaos]

You assume too much.

When democrats introduce clean legislation addressing the issue, then I will be upset with Republicans voting against it. Not before.

You don’t know if it was clean or unclean. You’re ASSUMING it was unclean because that allows you the comfort of mindlessly agreeing with them when they go against your own beliefs.

Here’s the bill. Explain what’s so unclean about it.

H.R.1446 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021

Summary of H.R.1446 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021

www.congress.gov

 

[TemplarKormac]

You don’t know if it was clean or unclean. You’re ASSUMING it was unclean because that allows you the comfort of mindlessly agreeing with them when they go against your own beliefs.

No, it is natural political behavior.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Post your evidence for that in this case.

Like I said, you’re assuming something shady so you can mindlessly fall in line with their actions.

If you're hoping to get a rise out of me, you will fail.

 

[TemplarKormac]

You don’t know if it was clean or unclean. You’re ASSUMING it was unclean because that allows you the comfort of mindlessly agreeing with them when they go against your own beliefs.

Here’s the bill. Explain what’s so unclean about it.

H.R.1446 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021

Summary of H.R.1446 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021

www.congress.gov

It does nothing but add redundancies to existing law. It does absolutely nothing.

 

[XponentialChaos]

No, it is natural political behavior.

H.R.1446 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021

Summary of H.R.1446 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Enhanced Background Checks Act of 2021

www.congress.gov

Find me what was unclean about this.

You have nothing.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Furthermore, this is an amendment, not a law. It amends existing, ineffective law.

 

[XponentialChaos]

It does nothing but add redundancies to existing law. It does absolutely nothing.

Adds more time to background checks which allows for more in-depth evaluations.

Tell me, what’s so unclean about that?

 

[TemplarKormac]

U.S. Senate: U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 113th Congress - 1st Session

roll_call_vote.xml

www.senate.gov

Why did Democrats vote against this? They had the tiebreaker in the Senate that year.

Here are the gun bills stalled in Congress

Tuesday’s massacre at a Texas elementary school, in which a gunman killed 19 children and two adults, reignited calls to pass gun control legislation that has been stalled in Congress, in some case…

thehill.com

 

[TemplarKormac]

Adds more time to background checks which allows for more in-depth evaluations.

Tell me, what’s so unclean about that?

Nice nitpickery there, but when you add redundancies to a law, that doesn't make the law more effective. Extending the wait time 7 more days would not stop a killer with no record from getting a firearm.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Nice nitpickery there, but when you add redundancies to a law, that doesn't make the law more effective. Extending the wait time 7 more days would not stop a killer with no record from getting a firearm.

So it wasn’t unclean like you assumed.

Extending 7 more days gives them time to do a more thorough background check, something you claimed to be in favor of.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So it wasn’t unclean like you assumed.

Extending 7 more days gives them time to do a more thorough background check, something you claimed to be in favor of.

Yeah, 7 days is insufficient time to carry out a thorough background check. It would naturally need to be...

drumroll please... longer.

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yeah, 7 days is insufficient time to carry out a thorough background check. It would naturally need to be...

drumroll please... longer.

It was 3 days. They extended to 10 days.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So it wasn’t unclean like you assumed.

No it wasn't, because it was an amendment.

And Democrats were threatening to nuke the filibuster to pass it. Hence the 'dirty tricks' I spoke of earlier.

Do you really think the minority party would go along with that? If they wouldn't resort to such tactics they would get the Republicans to seriously consider it.

 

[TemplarKormac]

It was 3 days. They extended to 10 days.

More than 10 days. 30 days, or 60 days.
(I was speaking to the length of the extension, by the way, 7 more days would be insufficient)

 

[XponentialChaos]

No it wasn't, because it was an amendment.

Oh. So you were full of shit when you said it was unclean.

Got it.

 

[XponentialChaos]

More than 10 days. 30 days, or 60 days.
(I was speaking to the length of the extension, by the way, 7 more days would be insufficient)

So what would be sufficient?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Oh. So you were full of shit when you said it was unclean.

Got it.

No more full of shit than you were a few pages ago. Let's not, okay?

 

[TemplarKormac]

So what would be sufficient?

Enough time for a rigorous psychological evaluation of the petitioner/applicant.

90 days.