2 Cops shot dead by crazy gun nut Obama hater

[WillowTree]

Man, when the issue of guns comes into view, the emotions run high, don't they?

And some of you wonder why I use the term gun queers?

This nation has gone insane over this three issues: guns, god and gays.

yes but the truth is you don't see the Republicans throwing chairs and bombs, and running naked in the streets celebrating gay pride parades and forbidding a beauty queen to believe in same sex marriage so don't blame the 21% of us who are conservative..

 

[michiganFats]

I'm supposed to give a fuck because a crazy guy got access to weapons? And, I'm also supposed to believe that that single guy is indicative of all gun owners? Go Fuck Yourself

That was never said. You made that up. Livin' in your own little world.

I didn't make that up. i read the thread. Your little World doesn't make the cut, and that's not my fault.

 

[AllieBaba]

I'm supposed to give a fuck because a crazy guy got access to weapons? And, I'm also supposed to believe that that single guy is indicative of all gun owners? Go Fuck Yourself

That was never said. You made that up. Livin' in your own little world.

Actually, that came directly from your thread title, which made the connection between nut, Obama-hater and gun ownership. A connection not supported by the body of the article.

So you said it, WorldAShit.

 

[WillowTree]

I'm supposed to give a fuck because a crazy guy got access to weapons? And, I'm also supposed to believe that that single guy is indicative of all gun owners? Go Fuck Yourself

That was never said. You made that up. Livin' in your own little world.

Actually, that came directly from your thread title, which made the connection between nut, Obama-hater and gun ownership. A connection not supported by the body of the article.

So you said it, WorldAShit.

He most surely did,,

 

[tigerbob]

Why do you believe he was mentally disturbed? I'm not so sure he was.

He went nuts about Clearasil. This is not the act of a sane chap.

 

[michiganFats]

Why do you believe he was mentally disturbed? I'm not so sure he was.

He went nuts about Clearasil. This is not the act of a sane chap.

You are privy to information I am not privy to apparently. Hook me up with your cable provider, bro!

 

[tigerbob]

The federal government has chosen to wage war against American citizens, and history shows that that is always a bad idea. Don't make excuses for Obama.

I must have missed the news that day.

 

[tigerbob]

Why do you believe he was mentally disturbed? I'm not so sure he was.

He went nuts about Clearasil. This is not the act of a sane chap.

You are privy to information I am not privy to apparently. Hook me up with your cable provider, bro!

Sure. I subscribe to O.P.

 

[michiganFats]

The federal government has chosen to wage war against American citizens, and history shows that that is always a bad idea. Don't make excuses for Obama.

I must have missed the news that day.

You missed the news the last 20 years? and you have no ability to think rationally? Yeah, you missed a lot, bro.

 

[auditor0007]

You know - multiple cop shootings are on the rise since these whackos started stocking up on guns. But hey, let's give them assault rifle permits and AK-47's so they can REALLY go out there and cause havoc!

I'm all for the right to bear arms, as in a gun or two around the house for self defensive measures. I also have zero problem with gun collectors. But I am not a fan of people having and using military grade weapons - especially when they outgun police officers.

This is just a HUGE pot of water that is leading up to a boil. The radicals like Sarah Palin and co. got the right wing fired up when they tried to peg Obama as someone who "pals around with terrorists." Crowds would shout "TERRORIST!" at McCain rallies when called upon to describe Obama... and even though Obama has not made one single solitary comment about guns since he was elected, the far right has stocked up on guns like toy trains.

We are due for a severely hot summer with the coming El Nino... if one of these right-wing fuckers gets a clear shot on Obama - you can expect massive riots this summer. Pig flu. Economy. Socialism. May Day protests....All of the ingredients are coming together nicely now for a Summer no one will forget. Wish I could just leave the country from June - September.

I'm sure we can find a few on the board here to pay for your one-way ticket, lol.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

I don't care if they adore or loath Obama, or any other politician or celebrity.
Separate crazy fuckers from deadly weapons.

That doesn't say I suggest or condone harassing and confiscating weapons from only Obama hating Conservatives.
THAT fallacy is a perfect example of the RW paranoia - self centerred persecution complex.
Such irrational paranoid behavior is childishly self centered, unattractive, repulsive, no matter who does it.

I am saying that WE as responsible citizens, as thinking, alert human beings,
need to pay attention to reducing the worst case scenarios of what happens when deeply unbalanced, angry people have access to deadly weapons.
Not wait for courts and police to intervene.
Take their guns away, and their swords and their nunchukkas and their poison darts and their military knives.

That is not a political statement. It is self preservation.
I'd rather restrict a violent nut's access to weapons than have to keep my hand on the butt of mine, for fear that he or ANYONE will snap at any second and start shooting.
That is not my view of what the 2nd Amendment was written to protect - a society where everyone is packing heat, everyone's itchy and worried and ready to empty a clip in all directions.
Always at the mercy of the worst mood swing of the craziest among us.

I am proactive, not passively reactive, as Gunny seems to be advocating.
"Nothing we can do until he starts shooting".
To hell with that.
I have and will take a crazy fuckers weapons from dangerous people.
Not because that person would be a RWer who I think is hysterically wrong in his unattached to reality opinions,
but because that person is dangerous.
There is a difference.

Here's the problem... You don't get to decide whose crazy... and given that CRAZY is so throughly SUBJECTIVE... and often the final anaysis is founded in the ACTION which SOLIDIFIES THE ANALYSIS... your in essense seeking to use 'science' to determine who gets to hold individual rights...

Which is IRONIC AS HELL given the ceaseless advocacy for the RIGHTS OF THOSE WHO PLOTTED AND EXECUTED THE MASS MURDER OF 3000 PEOPLE...

Which disqualifies you and pretty much across the board...

What's more... I've personally disarmed individuals, friends who I knew were goign through a tough patch. Walked right in their house and stolen their guns... put them in my safe... drove to their location and told them exactly what I did... and guess what; in BOTH circumstances (granted each one was slightly different) NEITHER ONE even hesitated... and BOTH thanked me... albeit down the road.

What's more, I've taken my guns to friends and told them to take them to someone else, unknown to me to hold them, when I was not well suited to the responsibility...

And there have been several times, in my life when I've used my side arm and my shotgun to defend myself and my family...

So shut the fuck up... people tend to do what's best and people tend to BE RESPONSIBLE; but that doesn't guarantee perfection and while human rights are imperfect, THEY'RE MADE LESS PERFECT BY PEOPLE WHO ADVOCATE THEIR USURPATION, ON THE PREMISE THAT IT'S AN IMPERFECT SYSTEM... which is only amplified by the certainty that the loudest advocates of such ARE AMONG THE LEAST PERFECT AND ADVOCATES OF THE MOST DISCREDITED IDEOLOGY IN HUMAN HISTORY!

It is BEYOND ABSURD TO READ SOMEONE WHO ADVACTES FOR THE IDEOLOGY WHICH MURDERED 150 MILLION HUMAN BEINGS, PLEADING THAT THE WORLD SHOULD CONCEDE TO THEIR DESIRES< TO SAVE HUMAN LIFE...

Funny stuff...

PUBES - it doesn't take a PhD in psychology to see from your rambling disjointed emotional wild raving posts that you
are crazy.

You fit in here, perfectly.

Well there ya go and there in lies the problem... You're ideology and your most closely held feelings can't stand up to reasoned contest; so your reaction is to declare that those contests are 'disjointed', 'rambling' and the product of a sick mind...

It's CLASSIC disembling and was the favored means of the Communists in dealing with their opposition... and the basis for a fair percentage for stripping what few rights Soviets Citizens had and placing them in custody, for the good of 'The {People} State.'

And its why 'psychology' is not a sound reason to strip someone of their rights... it's subject to the irrational misuse by small minds.

 

[tigerbob]

The federal government has chosen to wage war against American citizens, and history shows that that is always a bad idea. Don't make excuses for Obama.

I must have missed the news that day.

You missed the news the last 20 years? and you have no ability to think rationally? Yeah, you missed a lot, bro.

It's because I miss the news that I think rationally.

 

[Old Rocks]

two words , Murrah Building

My Two Words




FUCK YEW

Blindingly intelligent response.

 

[WorldAHope]

Here's the problem... You don't get to decide whose crazy... and given that CRAZY is so throughly SUBJECTIVE... and often the final anaysis is founded in the ACTION which SOLIDIFIES THE ANALYSIS... your in essense seeking to use 'science' to determine who gets to hold individual rights...

Which is IRONIC AS HELL given the ceaseless advocacy for the RIGHTS OF THOSE WHO PLOTTED AND EXECUTED THE MASS MURDER OF 3000 PEOPLE...

Which disqualifies you and pretty much across the board...

What's more... I've personally disarmed individuals, friends who I knew were goign through a tough patch. Walked right in their house and stolen their guns... put them in my safe... drove to their location and told them exactly what I did... and guess what; in BOTH circumstances (granted each one was slightly different) NEITHER ONE even hesitated... and BOTH thanked me... albeit down the road.

What's more, I've taken my guns to friends and told them to take them to someone else, unknown to me to hold them, when I was not well suited to the responsibility...

And there have been several times, in my life when I've used my side arm and my shotgun to defend myself and my family...

So shut the fuck up... people tend to do what's best and people tend to BE RESPONSIBLE; but that doesn't guarantee perfection and while human rights are imperfect, THEY'RE MADE LESS PERFECT BY PEOPLE WHO ADVOCATE THEIR USURPATION, ON THE PREMISE THAT IT'S AN IMPERFECT SYSTEM... which is only amplified by the certainty that the loudest advocates of such ARE AMONG THE LEAST PERFECT AND ADVOCATES OF THE MOST DISCREDITED IDEOLOGY IN HUMAN HISTORY!

It is BEYOND ABSURD TO READ SOMEONE WHO ADVACTES FOR THE IDEOLOGY WHICH MURDERED 150 MILLION HUMAN BEINGS, PLEADING THAT THE WORLD SHOULD CONCEDE TO THEIR DESIRES< TO SAVE HUMAN LIFE...

Funny stuff...

PUBES - it doesn't take a PhD in psychology to see from your rambling disjointed emotional wild raving posts that you
are crazy.

You fit in here, perfectly.

Well there ya go and there in lies the problem... You're ideology and your most closely held feelings can't stand up to reasoned contest; so your reaction is to declare that those contests are 'disjointed', 'rambling' and the product of a sick mind...

It's CLASSIC disembling and was the favored means of the Communists in dealing with their opposition... and the basis for a fair percentage for stripping what few rights Soviets Citizens had and placing them in custody, for the good of 'The {People} State.'

And its why 'psychology' is not a sound reason to strip someone of their rights... it's subject to the irrational misuse by small minds.

It works in court.
It would not be too difficult to prove to a judge that you meet the legal requirements to be deemed
incompetent. Possibly Insane. Definitely Incapable of handling your own affairs.
Maybe a danger to yourself.

Can't refute your "argument" because you did not present any argument statements.
All yelling insults and wild opinions. Crazy man yelling to himself (or imaginary people) as he walks down the street posts.
Can't argue with that stuff.
Try basing your commentary upon facts, and structure your sentences and posts so they are coherent.
They are pretty much unreadable, full of yelling wild disjointed statements that make it hard to follow your intent or line of "reasoning". Your posts sentences jump around like you are flipping out on coke or meth.
People ignore them.
RW and LW readers both ignore your posts.
I say again, Pubes - your screws are loose, again. You should go to your weekly screw tightening session.

 

[Bfgrn]

Maybe he just didn't like the police. Maybe the police were crooked and this is a cover up. Maybe a guy shot two cops and the media wanted to make it a bigger story.

Maybe the man's wife thought it was important enough to tell the officers that responded to the call in her police statement that her husband was "severely disturbed" that Barack Obama had been elected president, and believed the U.S. government was conspiring against him.

 

[AllieBaba]

PUBES - it doesn't take a PhD in psychology to see from your rambling disjointed emotional wild raving posts that you
are crazy.

You fit in here, perfectly.

Well there ya go and there in lies the problem... You're ideology and your most closely held feelings can't stand up to reasoned contest; so your reaction is to declare that those contests are 'disjointed', 'rambling' and the product of a sick mind...

It's CLASSIC disembling and was the favored means of the Communists in dealing with their opposition... and the basis for a fair percentage for stripping what few rights Soviets Citizens had and placing them in custody, for the good of 'The {People} State.'

And its why 'psychology' is not a sound reason to strip someone of their rights... it's subject to the irrational misuse by small minds.

It works in court.
It would not be too difficult to prove to a judge that you meet the legal requirements to be deemed
incompetent. Possibly Insane. Definitely Incapable of handling your own affairs.
Maybe a danger to yourself.

Can't refute your "argument" because you did not present any argument statements.
All yelling insults and wild opinions. Crazy man yelling to himself (or imaginary people) as he walks down the street posts.
Can't argue with that stuff.
Try basing your commentary upon facts, and structure your sentences and posts so they are coherent.
They are pretty much unreadable, full of yelling wild disjointed statements that make it hard to follow your intent or line of "reasoning". Your posts sentences jump around like you are flipping out on coke or meth.
People ignore them.
RW and LW readers both ignore your posts.
I say again, Pubes - your screws are loose, again. You should go to your weekly screw tightening session.

We aren't attending the same competency hearings, apparently.

It's actually not that easy to get someone declared incompetent.

 

[garyd]

Even if he is in the active reserve, his superiors aren't seeing him with any frequency unless his unit is mobilized. Active reserve and National guard operate on the same pattern when not mobilized.

 

[jgbkab]

PUBES - it doesn't take a PhD in psychology to see from your rambling disjointed emotional wild raving posts that you
are crazy.

You fit in here, perfectly.

Well there ya go and there in lies the problem... You're ideology and your most closely held feelings can't stand up to reasoned contest; so your reaction is to declare that those contests are 'disjointed', 'rambling' and the product of a sick mind...

It's CLASSIC disembling and was the favored means of the Communists in dealing with their opposition... and the basis for a fair percentage for stripping what few rights Soviets Citizens had and placing them in custody, for the good of 'The {People} State.'

And its why 'psychology' is not a sound reason to strip someone of their rights... it's subject to the irrational misuse by small minds.

It works in court.
It would not be too difficult to prove to a judge that you meet the legal requirements to be deemed
incompetent. Possibly Insane. Definitely Incapable of handling your own affairs.
Maybe a danger to yourself.

Can't refute your "argument" because you did not present any argument statements.
All yelling insults and wild opinions. Crazy man yelling to himself (or imaginary people) as he walks down the street posts.
Can't argue with that stuff.
Try basing your commentary upon facts, and structure your sentences and posts so they are coherent.
They are pretty much unreadable, full of yelling wild disjointed statements that make it hard to follow your intent or line of "reasoning". Your posts sentences jump around like you are flipping out on coke or meth.
People ignore them.
RW and LW readers both ignore your posts.
I say again, Pubes - your screws are loose, again. You should go to your weekly screw tightening session.

I thought that I was the only person to notice this.... It's like Edgar Allen Poe had a love child with the Waterboy.

 

[Gunny]

Maybe he just didn't like the police. Maybe the police were crooked and this is a cover up. Maybe a guy shot two cops and the media wanted to make it a bigger story.

Maybe the man's wife thought it was important enough to tell the officers that responded to the call in her police statement that her husband was "severely disturbed" that Barack Obama had been elected president, and believed the U.S. government was conspiring against him.

Maybe it wasn't important at all and came out after the fact. He was pissed over a tube of clearasil. Sorry the facts don't support your wishful thinking.

 

[Gunny]

"Deeply unbalanced, angry people" according to whom?

Actually, forget it. It's a discussion that can lead nowhere productive.

Exactly. The gist of it is anyone "he" thinks is unbalanced, he is going to disarm. So not only is he an expert psychoanalyst, but apparently Chuck Norris as well.

Chuck is a slow clumsy hack.

Spare us the e-balls, huh? You think you can disarm people with loaded weapons, and now think you Chuck Norris is slow and clumsy.

I think I got you pegged now. You're just full of shit.