1896 Film of Palestine and Jerusalem.

[theliq]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

So you'd support dissolving the US and returning it the Indians?

Well it couldn't be any worse.........could it ??????

 

[theliq]

A great piece of photographic history!

Whether the actual % Muslim/Christian/Jew is correct or not is for debate, the important part message is that Palestine was not devoid of inhabitants as is commonly suggested on this forum...

Of course Palestine was not devoid of inhabitants of ALL religions... It is a convenient 'misconception' by those who find it an easy 'point' that they feel that Palestine was empty and without ownership.

The fact remains that, by and large, the mixed culture in Palestine was, firstly mixed, secondly, on the whole, tolerant.

In the 1860's the French were in the throes of a major famine,the Minister of Trade of France at the time.."Thanked the Palestinians for the exportation of FREE Wheat and Oranges" to France.....which contributed to the famines END. Fact

 

[theliq]

Well, that's a change. The Israel Firsters claim that Jews have always been a majority in Jerusalem. They were not a majority even after the Zionist invasion it appears. And, the narrator confirms that Muslims were 85% and Christians 10% and Jews less than 5% of the population of Palestine. Also, it confirms that the Jews were Arab Jews that spoke Arabic. This is a great find. The Israel Firsters will have to find something else to deny the facts. LOL

Even with all the Zionist Bullshit,for Bullshit is what it is......there were 100,000's of thousands more Palestinians in Palestine than Jews from outside,mainly Europe but these were not and NEVER have been Semitic Jews...only The Sephardic and Palestinians are Semitic People......Most Jews today are NOT SEMITIC but they surely are Anti-Semitic.

 

[theliq]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Cant see any big badges on the people walking streets saying muslim or Christian. So how can you say that it is only muslims and Christians we can see ?

This Brilliant Original Footage Makes every pro Jewish/Israeli/Zionist poster on here over the past 5 years,who has spewed Total Shit... Ad-Nausium exactly that.....Total Lying Bullshit Artists....but I told you Guys and Ladies YEARS AGO......Vindication is a Great Thing

 

[Challenger]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Cant see any big badges on the people walking streets saying muslim or Christian. So how can you say that it is only muslims and Christians we can see ?

Only the Nazis used badges for Jews(a yellow star of David) in this footage,Palestinian Jews lived in Harmony..with others....you FOOL.

Not strictly true. The were Ottoman dress regulations for Jewish and Christian subjects of the Empire, who were supposed to wear "ghiyar" or identifying bages or symbols to denote their religion as well as restricting clothes to specific colours, although the evidence was these were not strictly enforced.

 

[Challenger]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Nice bit of historical film, although sadly it proves very little, other than the scant Jewish presence at the time, especially Ashkenazi Europeans.

 

[Phoenall]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

So you'd support dissolving the US and returning it the Indians?

Too late for that. The Indians (as you call them) were put on reservations, at least the ones we didn't kill. There is hope for the Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

That's if the Palestinians don't ethnically cleanse the remaining 2% of the population of Palestinian Christians first

 

[theliq]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Nice bit of historical film, although sadly it proves very little, other than the scant Jewish presence at the time, especially Ashkenazi Europeans.

One just has to nod ones head at such Drivel

 

[theliq]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

So you'd support dissolving the US and returning it the Indians?

Too late for that. The Indians (as you call them) were put on reservations, at least the ones we didn't kill. There is hope for the Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

That's if the Palestinians don't ethnically cleanse the remaining 2% of the population of Palestinian Christians first

How obnoxious and Banal!!!!!!!!!

 

[Phoenall]

The narrator states Jews form half the population of Jerusalem

So.....then 10% Christians and 85% Muslim in Palestine.....So your point is ???????? Jews were a miniscule Minority.........Their claim that NO ONE inhabited Palestine.....which was taught to generations of Jewish Israelis since 1948 was infactual Bullshit..steve

And as monti has shown only 0.8% of the land was owned by arab muslims while the Jews owned 4.8%. Now why do you think that was ?

 

[Phoenall]

A great piece of photographic history!

Whether the actual % Muslim/Christian/Jew is correct or not is for debate, the important part message is that Palestine was not devoid of inhabitants as is commonly suggested on this forum...

Of course Palestine was not devoid of inhabitants of ALL religions... It is a convenient 'misconception' by those who find it an easy 'point' that they feel that Palestine was empty and without ownership.

The fact remains that, by and large, the mixed culture in Palestine was, firstly mixed, secondly, on the whole, tolerant.

It is not up for debate at all because there was only circa 4.3 % of Jews inhabiting Palestine at that time.....5% was a rounding figure

As you said because of CUSTOMARY INTERNATIONAL LAW it is not up for debate. The legal land owners bequeathed the land for the RESURECTED JEWISH NATIONAL HOME and made provision for the arab muslims and Christians in the plans. It was the arab muslims that breached the rules of the mandate when they declared war on the Jews. The arab muslims were bequeathed the lands of Jordan, Syria and Iraq to turn into homelands.

 

[Phoenall]

It's not up for debate as theliq said... and everybody here (except Montelatici) is neglecting the fact that most of these 5% were palestinian jews, the only native Jews of Palestine...

Individuals who had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of Israel, much to the contrary... they vehemently opposed it.

For the purpose of "justifying" the state of Israel, arab Jews must be totally disregarded, ignored if you are debating the issue in good faith... and we all know a lot of people don't.

Only the european Jews who conceived the idea of a jewish state and implemented it decades later should be counted as the jewish population of Palestine as far as the zionist movement and the founding of Israel is concerned.

The askhenazim (Israel's founders) did not make up 5% of Palestine's population by any stretch.... try 0,5%.

The palestinian Jew who appears praying in Jerusalem in this extraordinary, fantastic video must be rolling in his grave seeing zionists today cynically, dishonestly (mis)using his historic presence in Palestine to justify Israel's creation, to present Palestine as the historic "homeland" of Ukrainians, Belarussians and Poles.

The Jews that were ethnically cleansed from the Ukraine, Belarussia and Poland were still Jews that had genetic and cultural ties to Palestine. They were invited to come to Palestine and settle first by the Ottomans and then by the LoN, so they did not found Israel as that was all down to the LoN who bequeathed the land TO ALL THE WORLDS JEWS.
According to the links provided by team Palestine the "Zionist invaders" outnumbered the resident Jews and amounted for 32% of the population of Palestine. Now considering that under the mandate and UN res 181 the arabs were allocated 95% of the land area and the Jews just 5% it shows that the Jews were under provisioned by the wiles of the arab nationalists who stole whole tracts of Jewish owned land in 1948/1949.

 

[Phoenall]

The narrator states Jews form half the population of Jerusalem

So.....then 10% Christians and 85% Muslim in Palestine.....So your point is ???????? Jews were a miniscule Minority.........Their claim that NO ONE inhabited Palestine.....which was taught to generations of Jewish Israelis since 1948 was infactual Bullshit..steve

In 1948 Jews made up 32% of the population of Palestine as shown by the same census much loved by team palestina

 

[Phoenall]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Cant see any big badges on the people walking streets saying muslim or Christian. So how can you say that it is only muslims and Christians we can see ?

Only the Nazis used badges for Jews(a yellow star of David) in this footage,Palestinian Jews lived in Harmony..with others....you FOOL.

Not strictly true. The were Ottoman dress regulations for Jewish and Christian subjects of the Empire, who were supposed to wear "ghiyar" or identifying bages or symbols to denote their religion as well as restricting clothes to specific colours, although the evidence was these were not strictly enforced.

The dhimmi laws and the Pact of Omar dictated dress codes and were a non muslim could walk, live, eat and sleep. The Germans took these Islamic laws and altered them to suit the new National socialist workers party regime.

 

[Phoenall]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Nice bit of historical film, although sadly it proves very little, other than the scant Jewish presence at the time, especially Ashkenazi Europeans.

Yet the many historical documants show that Jews were in the majority from 1882 to 1948 when they were forcibly evicted by the Palestinians

Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Year	Jews	Muslims	Christians	Total	Original Source	As quoted in
1882	9,000	7,000	5,000	21,000	Wilson	Kark and Oren-Nordheim, 2001[12]
1885	15,000	6,000	14,000	35,000	Goldmann	Kark and Oren-Nordheim, 2001[12]
1893	>50%	?	?	~40,000	Albert Shaw, Writer	Shaw, 1894 [36]
1896	28,112	8,560	8,748	45,420	Calendar of Palestine for the year 5656	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1905	13,300	11,000	8,100	32,400	1905 Ottoman census (only Ottoman citizens)	U.O.Schmelz[37]
1922	33,971	13,413	14,669	62,578	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1931	51,200	19,900	19,300	90,053	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1944	97,000	30,600	29,400	157,000	?	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1967	195,700	54,963	12,646	263,307		Harrel, 1974

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[Phoenall]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Nice bit of historical film, although sadly it proves very little, other than the scant Jewish presence at the time, especially Ashkenazi Europeans.

One just has to nod ones head at such Drivel

Or look for the real facts and hang your head in shame

Year	Jews	Muslims	Christians	Total	Original Source	As quoted in
1882	9,000	7,000	5,000	21,000	Wilson	Kark and Oren-Nordheim, 2001[12]
1885	15,000	6,000	14,000	35,000	Goldmann	Kark and Oren-Nordheim, 2001[12]
1893	>50%	?	?	~40,000	Albert Shaw, Writer	Shaw, 1894 [36]
1896	28,112	8,560	8,748	45,420	Calendar of Palestine for the year 5656	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1905	13,300	11,000	8,100	32,400	1905 Ottoman census (only Ottoman citizens)	U.O.Schmelz[37]
1922	33,971	13,413	14,669	62,578	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1931	51,200	19,900	19,300	90,053	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1944	97,000	30,600	29,400	157,000	?	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1967	195,700	54,963	12,646	263,307		Harrel, 1974

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Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

So you'd support dissolving the US and returning it the Indians?

Too late for that. The Indians (as you call them) were put on reservations, at least the ones we didn't kill. There is hope for the Christians and Muslims of Palestine.

That's if the Palestinians don't ethnically cleanse the remaining 2% of the population of Palestinian Christians first

How obnoxious and Banal!!!!!!!!!

They have already ethnically cleansed Palestine of Jews in 1948/1949 and now they are ethnically cleansing Christians. They have managed to ethnically cleanse 10% of the Palestinian population in recent years, all of which have been Christians. This leaves just 2% of the Palestinian population being non muslim, a clear cut case of genocide and ethnic cleansing that team Palestine refuse's point blank to believe.

 

[Challenger]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Nice bit of historical film, although sadly it proves very little, other than the scant Jewish presence at the time, especially Ashkenazi Europeans.

One just has to nod ones head at such Drivel

Or look for the real facts and hang your head in shame

Year	Jews	Muslims	Christians	Total	Original Source	As quoted in
1882	9,000	7,000	5,000	21,000	Wilson	Kark and Oren-Nordheim, 2001[12]
1885	15,000	6,000	14,000	35,000	Goldmann	Kark and Oren-Nordheim, 2001[12]
1893	>50%	?	?	~40,000	Albert Shaw, Writer	Shaw, 1894 [36]
1896	28,112	8,560	8,748	45,420	Calendar of Palestine for the year 5656	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1905	13,300	11,000	8,100	32,400	1905 Ottoman census (only Ottoman citizens)	U.O.Schmelz[37]
1922	33,971	13,413	14,669	62,578	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1931	51,200	19,900	19,300	90,053	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1944	97,000	30,600	29,400	157,000	?	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1967	195,700	54,963	12,646	263,307	Harrel, 1974

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Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Ah, Wikipedia. Interesting how there's a sudden upsurge in 1896 and all of a sudden in 1905 a 50% drop then in 1922 a 50% rise. The reality is that there was no reliable demographic of the area until the British 1922 census. Also the "Jewish" figures do not differentiate between the native sephardic population and the European Ashkenazi colonists.

 

[theliq]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Nice bit of historical film, although sadly it proves very little, other than the scant Jewish presence at the time, especially Ashkenazi Europeans.

One just has to nod ones head at such Drivel

Or look for the real facts and hang your head in shame

Year	Jews	Muslims	Christians	Total	Original Source	As quoted in
1882	9,000	7,000	5,000	21,000	Wilson	Kark and Oren-Nordheim, 2001[12]
1885	15,000	6,000	14,000	35,000	Goldmann	Kark and Oren-Nordheim, 2001[12]
1893	>50%	?	?	~40,000	Albert Shaw, Writer	Shaw, 1894 [36]
1896	28,112	8,560	8,748	45,420	Calendar of Palestine for the year 5656	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1905	13,300	11,000	8,100	32,400	1905 Ottoman census (only Ottoman citizens)	U.O.Schmelz[37]
1922	33,971	13,413	14,669	62,578	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1931	51,200	19,900	19,300	90,053	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1944	97,000	30,600	29,400	157,000	?	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1967	195,700	54,963	12,646	263,307	Harrel, 1974

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Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

You stupid Prick,such inane table......I will furnish you with the truth later..........fancy you saying "Hang your head in Shame"....You Dickhead

 

[theliq]

1896 film showing the people in Palestine and Jerusalem in particular. Notice how Christians and Muslims are the clear majority walking the streets of Jerusalem. Will a film convince the Israel Firsters?

Cant see any big badges on the people walking streets saying muslim or Christian. So how can you say that it is only muslims and Christians we can see ?

Only the Nazis used badges for Jews(a yellow star of David) in this footage,Palestinian Jews lived in Harmony..with others....you FOOL.

Not strictly true. The were Ottoman dress regulations for Jewish and Christian subjects of the Empire, who were supposed to wear "ghiyar" or identifying bages or symbols to denote their religion as well as restricting clothes to specific colours, although the evidence was these were not strictly enforced.

The dhimmi laws and the Pact of Omar dictated dress codes and were a non muslim could walk, live, eat and sleep. The Germans took these Islamic laws and altered them to suit the new National socialist workers party regime.

O Yeah,and Jews collaborated with Hitler to EXTERMINATE innocent Jewish people......You are a Fcuking disgrace to the Jews/Israelis and everyone on this board......Prick