1896 Film of Palestine and Jerusalem.

[montelatici]

One just has to nod ones head at such Drivel

Or look for the real facts and hang your head in shame

1905	13,300	11,000	8,100	32,400	1905 Ottoman census (only Ottoman citizens)	U.O.Schmelz[37]
1922	33,971	13,413	14,669	62,578	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1931	51,200	19,900	19,300	90,053	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1944	97,000	30,600	29,400	157,000	?	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1967	195,700	54,963	12,646	263,307	Harrel, 1974

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Ah, Wikipedia. Interesting how there's a sudden upsurge in 1896 and all of a sudden in 1905 a 50% drop then in 1922 a 50% rise. The reality is that there was no reliable demographic of the area until the British 1922 census. Also the "Jewish" figures do not differentiate between the native sephardic population and the European Ashkenazi colonists.

Check the sources listed. As Jewish population increased, the Muslim invasion increased. The British encouraged it, and have documented it.

This is what the British documented. What you are posting are secondary and tertiary interpretations probably effectively edited by trained Hasbara wikipedia editors. Is the source document just too factual and contrary to the brainwashing you have received?

So, between 1922 and 1937 increase by migration was 245,433 for the Jews, 25,168 for the Muslims and 10,414 for the Christians.

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

I wouldn't be quoting the British if I were you, when they admitted to encouraging and documenting the Arab Invasion of Palestine during that time period:

By contrast, throughout the Mandatory period, Arab immigration was unrestricted. In 1930, the Hope Simpson Commission, sent from London to investigate the 1929 Arab riots, said the British practice of ignoring the uncontrolled illegal Arab immigration from Egypt, Transjordan and Syria had the effect of displacing the prospectiveJewish immigrants. 8

The British Governor of the Sinai from 1922–36 observed: “This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria, and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.” 9

The Peel Commission reported in 1937 that the “shortfall of land is . . . due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.” 10

The gates of Palestine remained closed for the duration of the war, stranding hundreds of thousands of Jews in Europe, many of whom became victims of Hitler’s“Final Solution.” After the war, the British refused to allow the survivors of the Nazi nightmare to find sanctuary in Palestine.

The rapid growth of the Arab population was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states—constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel—by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. 15 The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943. 16

The Arab population increased the most in cities where large Jewish populations had created new economic opportunities. From 1922–1947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent inJerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem. 17

Despite the growth in their population, the Arabs continued to assert they were being displaced. From the beginning of World War I, however, part of Palestine’s land was owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. About 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were debt-ridden peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins. 18

Jews actually went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as “the most important asset of the native population.” Ben-Gurion said “under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them.” He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. “Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement,” Ben-Gurion added, “should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price.” 19

In 1931, Lewis French conducted a survey of landlessness for the British government and offered new plots to any Arabs who had been “dispossessed.” British officials received more than 3,000 applications, of which 80 percent were ruled invalid by the Government’s legal adviser because the applicants were not landless Arabs. This left only about 600 landless Arabs, 100 of whom accepted the Government land offer.

You are posting propaganda and I am posting fact from an official report. Do I have to post it again or are you so thick headed that you will believe propaganda (without any link by the way) rather than official reports? Arabs owned about 95% of the land.

 

[Roudy]

To be fair, the Mufti was trying to avoid having 500,000 European Jews settle in Palestine AND expel his people from their lands and homes. He would have resisted the arrival of 500,000 Hindus or Buddhists or Athiests for the same reason if they were intent on creating their own state in Palestine by expelling the existing people.

How about you being fair.? The land never belonged to the Arabs. The Mufti, who is basically the God father of Islamic movements and Muslim Brotherhood, allied himself with Hitler and created a Muslim army in Bosnia that fought side by side with the Nazis. The US state dept. declared the Mufti a Nazi, which means, the founder of the Palestinian national bowel movement was a fucking Nazi. The Mufti was an Islamist thug who killed fellow Muslim moderates who preached coexistence, because he saw an opportunity to steal the land and make it "Muslim land", and exporting his barbaric IslamoNazi ideology to the rest of the Middle East, which he did (look up the Baath party roots). The Mufti's jihadists were behind the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the ancient Jews of Hebron. The Mufti was also behind the mass slaughter and ethnic cleansing of ancient Jews in Iraq and other Arab Muslim countries. The Mufti paid visits to Hitler's death camps and declared his pleasure with what he saw, and wanted to implement Hitler's "final solution" upon the Jews and Christians of the Middle East, that's why he successfully blended Islam with Nazism and Arab nationalism.

This is the scum you are defending and rooting for. Your cause is based on evil from it's inception All mentally ill losers like .Mohomod Latici qualify as foot soldiers.

"How about you being fair.? The land never belonged to the Arabs."

Who do you think it belonged to? According to the 1946 Survey of Palestine submitted to the UN by the Mandatory 90% or more of the land was owned by the Arabs:

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1943 after the Arab invasion had completed? The land belonged to the OTTOMAN TURKS for 600 years, and then fell under British control. Let's also not forget that the Ottoman Turks did their lite own version of ethnic cleansing on the Jews, as well as underreported their presence in the land INTENTIONALLY. Remind us again, are Ottoman Turks, Arabs? Ha ha ha.

 

[toastman]

Or look for the real facts and hang your head in shame

1905	13,300	11,000	8,100	32,400	1905 Ottoman census (only Ottoman citizens)	U.O.Schmelz[37]
1922	33,971	13,413	14,669	62,578	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1931	51,200	19,900	19,300	90,053	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1944	97,000	30,600	29,400	157,000	?	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1967	195,700	54,963	12,646	263,307	Harrel, 1974

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Ah, Wikipedia. Interesting how there's a sudden upsurge in 1896 and all of a sudden in 1905 a 50% drop then in 1922 a 50% rise. The reality is that there was no reliable demographic of the area until the British 1922 census. Also the "Jewish" figures do not differentiate between the native sephardic population and the European Ashkenazi colonists.

Check the sources listed. As Jewish population increased, the Muslim invasion increased. The British encouraged it, and have documented it.

This is what the British documented. What you are posting are secondary and tertiary interpretations probably effectively edited by trained Hasbara wikipedia editors. Is the source document just too factual and contrary to the brainwashing you have received?

So, between 1922 and 1937 increase by migration was 245,433 for the Jews, 25,168 for the Muslims and 10,414 for the Christians.

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

I wouldn't be quoting the British if I were you, when they admitted to encouraging and documenting the Arab Invasion of Palestine during that time period:

By contrast, throughout the Mandatory period, Arab immigration was unrestricted. In 1930, the Hope Simpson Commission, sent from London to investigate the 1929 Arab riots, said the British practice of ignoring the uncontrolled illegal Arab immigration from Egypt, Transjordan and Syria had the effect of displacing the prospectiveJewish immigrants. 8

The British Governor of the Sinai from 1922–36 observed: “This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria, and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.” 9

The Peel Commission reported in 1937 that the “shortfall of land is . . . due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.” 10

The gates of Palestine remained closed for the duration of the war, stranding hundreds of thousands of Jews in Europe, many of whom became victims of Hitler’s“Final Solution.” After the war, the British refused to allow the survivors of the Nazi nightmare to find sanctuary in Palestine.

The rapid growth of the Arab population was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states—constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel—by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. 15 The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943. 16

The Arab population increased the most in cities where large Jewish populations had created new economic opportunities. From 1922–1947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent inJerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem. 17

Despite the growth in their population, the Arabs continued to assert they were being displaced. From the beginning of World War I, however, part of Palestine’s land was owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. About 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were debt-ridden peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins. 18

Jews actually went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as “the most important asset of the native population.” Ben-Gurion said “under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them.” He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. “Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement,” Ben-Gurion added, “should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price.” 19

In 1931, Lewis French conducted a survey of landlessness for the British government and offered new plots to any Arabs who had been “dispossessed.” British officials received more than 3,000 applications, of which 80 percent were ruled invalid by the Government’s legal adviser because the applicants were not landless Arabs. This left only about 600 landless Arabs, 100 of whom accepted the Government land offer.

You are posting propaganda and I am posting fact from an official report. Do I have to post it again or are you so thick headed that you will believe propaganda (without any link by the way) rather than official reports? Arabs owned about 95% of the land.


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There's a difference between owning land and having sovereignty over that land. The Palestinians did not have the latter.

 

[Roudy]

Or look for the real facts and hang your head in shame

1905	13,300	11,000	8,100	32,400	1905 Ottoman census (only Ottoman citizens)	U.O.Schmelz[37]
1922	33,971	13,413	14,669	62,578	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1931	51,200	19,900	19,300	90,053	Census of Palestine (British)	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1944	97,000	30,600	29,400	157,000	?	Harrel and Stendel, 1974
1967	195,700	54,963	12,646	263,307	Harrel, 1974

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Demographic history of Jerusalem - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Ah, Wikipedia. Interesting how there's a sudden upsurge in 1896 and all of a sudden in 1905 a 50% drop then in 1922 a 50% rise. The reality is that there was no reliable demographic of the area until the British 1922 census. Also the "Jewish" figures do not differentiate between the native sephardic population and the European Ashkenazi colonists.

Check the sources listed. As Jewish population increased, the Muslim invasion increased. The British encouraged it, and have documented it.

This is what the British documented. What you are posting are secondary and tertiary interpretations probably effectively edited by trained Hasbara wikipedia editors. Is the source document just too factual and contrary to the brainwashing you have received?

So, between 1922 and 1937 increase by migration was 245,433 for the Jews, 25,168 for the Muslims and 10,414 for the Christians.

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

I wouldn't be quoting the British if I were you, when they admitted to encouraging and documenting the Arab Invasion of Palestine during that time period:

By contrast, throughout the Mandatory period, Arab immigration was unrestricted. In 1930, the Hope Simpson Commission, sent from London to investigate the 1929 Arab riots, said the British practice of ignoring the uncontrolled illegal Arab immigration from Egypt, Transjordan and Syria had the effect of displacing the prospectiveJewish immigrants. 8

The British Governor of the Sinai from 1922–36 observed: “This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria, and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.” 9

The Peel Commission reported in 1937 that the “shortfall of land is . . . due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.” 10

The gates of Palestine remained closed for the duration of the war, stranding hundreds of thousands of Jews in Europe, many of whom became victims of Hitler’s“Final Solution.” After the war, the British refused to allow the survivors of the Nazi nightmare to find sanctuary in Palestine.

The rapid growth of the Arab population was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states—constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel—by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. 15 The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943. 16

The Arab population increased the most in cities where large Jewish populations had created new economic opportunities. From 1922–1947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent inJerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem. 17

Despite the growth in their population, the Arabs continued to assert they were being displaced. From the beginning of World War I, however, part of Palestine’s land was owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. About 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were debt-ridden peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins. 18

Jews actually went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as “the most important asset of the native population.” Ben-Gurion said “under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them.” He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. “Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement,” Ben-Gurion added, “should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price.” 19

In 1931, Lewis French conducted a survey of landlessness for the British government and offered new plots to any Arabs who had been “dispossessed.” British officials received more than 3,000 applications, of which 80 percent were ruled invalid by the Government’s legal adviser because the applicants were not landless Arabs. This left only about 600 landless Arabs, 100 of whom accepted the Government land offer.

You are posting propaganda and I am posting fact from an official report. Do I have to post it again or are you so thick headed that you will believe propaganda (without any link by the way) rather than official reports? Arabs owned about 95% of the land.

So when you quote the British it's not propaganda but when I quote the Peel Commission and other British officials, it's propaganda. Ha ha ha. Get a life Mohomod, you're a fulla shit propagandist and liar.

 

[Roudy]

To be fair, the Mufti was trying to avoid having 500,000 European Jews settle in Palestine AND expel his people from their lands and homes. He would have resisted the arrival of 500,000 Hindus or Buddhists or Athiests for the same reason if they were intent on creating their own state in Palestine by expelling the existing people.

Please show me where you read that was the reason for the Mufti associating with Hitler and Nazis

Don't hold your breath. He makes up shit as he goes. LOL

 

[toastman]

To be fair, the Mufti was trying to avoid having 500,000 European Jews settle in Palestine AND expel his people from their lands and homes. He would have resisted the arrival of 500,000 Hindus or Buddhists or Athiests for the same reason if they were intent on creating their own state in Palestine by expelling the existing people.

Please show me where you read that was the reason for the Mufti associating with Hitler and Nazis

Don't hold your breath. He makes up shit as he goes. LOL

But Roudy, I thought Monti was "known for posting facts" ? hahahaha

 

[Roudy]

Ah, Wikipedia. Interesting how there's a sudden upsurge in 1896 and all of a sudden in 1905 a 50% drop then in 1922 a 50% rise. The reality is that there was no reliable demographic of the area until the British 1922 census. Also the "Jewish" figures do not differentiate between the native sephardic population and the European Ashkenazi colonists.

Check the sources listed. As Jewish population increased, the Muslim invasion increased. The British encouraged it, and have documented it.

This is what the British documented. What you are posting are secondary and tertiary interpretations probably effectively edited by trained Hasbara wikipedia editors. Is the source document just too factual and contrary to the brainwashing you have received?

So, between 1922 and 1937 increase by migration was 245,433 for the Jews, 25,168 for the Muslims and 10,414 for the Christians.

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

I wouldn't be quoting the British if I were you, when they admitted to encouraging and documenting the Arab Invasion of Palestine during that time period:

By contrast, throughout the Mandatory period, Arab immigration was unrestricted. In 1930, the Hope Simpson Commission, sent from London to investigate the 1929 Arab riots, said the British practice of ignoring the uncontrolled illegal Arab immigration from Egypt, Transjordan and Syria had the effect of displacing the prospectiveJewish immigrants. 8

The British Governor of the Sinai from 1922–36 observed: “This illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria, and it is very difficult to make a case out for the misery of the Arabs if at the same time their compatriots from adjoining states could not be kept from going in to share that misery.” 9

The Peel Commission reported in 1937 that the “shortfall of land is . . . due less to the amount of land acquired by Jews than to the increase in the Arab population.” 10

The gates of Palestine remained closed for the duration of the war, stranding hundreds of thousands of Jews in Europe, many of whom became victims of Hitler’s“Final Solution.” After the war, the British refused to allow the survivors of the Nazi nightmare to find sanctuary in Palestine.

The rapid growth of the Arab population was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states—constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel—by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. 15 The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943. 16

The Arab population increased the most in cities where large Jewish populations had created new economic opportunities. From 1922–1947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent inJerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem. 17

Despite the growth in their population, the Arabs continued to assert they were being displaced. From the beginning of World War I, however, part of Palestine’s land was owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut. About 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were debt-ridden peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins. 18

Jews actually went out of their way to avoid purchasing land in areas where Arabs might be displaced. They sought land that was largely uncultivated, swampy, cheap and, most important, without tenants. In 1920, Labor Zionist leader David Ben-Gurion expressed his concern about the Arab fellahin, whom he viewed as “the most important asset of the native population.” Ben-Gurion said “under no circumstances must we touch land belonging to fellahs or worked by them.” He advocated helping liberate them from their oppressors. “Only if a fellah leaves his place of settlement,” Ben-Gurion added, “should we offer to buy his land, at an appropriate price.” 19

In 1931, Lewis French conducted a survey of landlessness for the British government and offered new plots to any Arabs who had been “dispossessed.” British officials received more than 3,000 applications, of which 80 percent were ruled invalid by the Government’s legal adviser because the applicants were not landless Arabs. This left only about 600 landless Arabs, 100 of whom accepted the Government land offer.

You are posting propaganda and I am posting fact from an official report. Do I have to post it again or are you so thick headed that you will believe propaganda (without any link by the way) rather than official reports? Arabs owned about 95% of the land.


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There's a difference between owning land and having sovereignty over that land. The Palestinians did not have the latter.

He thinks just because the Arabs invaded and squatted they get to own the land. Islamist modus operandi. Exactly what ISIS is doing now, and what Hamas intends to do.

 

[montelatici]

To be fair, the Mufti was trying to avoid having 500,000 European Jews settle in Palestine AND expel his people from their lands and homes. He would have resisted the arrival of 500,000 Hindus or Buddhists or Athiests for the same reason if they were intent on creating their own state in Palestine by expelling the existing people.

How about you being fair.? The land never belonged to the Arabs. The Mufti, who is basically the God father of Islamic movements and Muslim Brotherhood, allied himself with Hitler and created a Muslim army in Bosnia that fought side by side with the Nazis. The US state dept. declared the Mufti a Nazi, which means, the founder of the Palestinian national bowel movement was a fucking Nazi. The Mufti was an Islamist thug who killed fellow Muslim moderates who preached coexistence, because he saw an opportunity to steal the land and make it "Muslim land", and exporting his barbaric IslamoNazi ideology to the rest of the Middle East, which he did (look up the Baath party roots). The Mufti's jihadists were behind the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the ancient Jews of Hebron. The Mufti was also behind the mass slaughter and ethnic cleansing of ancient Jews in Iraq and other Arab Muslim countries. The Mufti paid visits to Hitler's death camps and declared his pleasure with what he saw, and wanted to implement Hitler's "final solution" upon the Jews and Christians of the Middle East, that's why he successfully blended Islam with Nazism and Arab nationalism.

This is the scum you are defending and rooting for. Your cause is based on evil from it's inception All mentally ill losers like .Mohomod Latici qualify as foot soldiers.

"How about you being fair.? The land never belonged to the Arabs."

Who do you think it belonged to? According to the 1946 Survey of Palestine submitted to the UN by the Mandatory 90% or more of the land was owned by the Arabs:

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1943 after the Arab invasion had completed? The land belonged to the OTTOMAN TURKS for 600 years, and then fell under British control. Let's also not forget that the Ottoman Turks did their lite own version of ethnic cleansing on the Jews, as well as underreported their presence in the land INTENTIONALLY. Remind us again, are Ottoman Turks, Arabs? Ha ha ha.

How can that be when only 25,168 Muslims and 10,414 Christians migrated to Palestine between 1922 and 1937 as opposed to 245,433 Jews migrating to Palestine? The invasion seems to be Jewish.

	All religions.	Moslems.	Jews.	Christians.	Others.
Total increase of population Increase by migration Natural increase	631,272 281,339 349,933	286,770 25,168 261,602	302,294 245,433 56,861	38,305 10,414 27,891	3,903 324 3,579

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

 

[montelatici]

To be fair, the Mufti was trying to avoid having 500,000 European Jews settle in Palestine AND expel his people from their lands and homes. He would have resisted the arrival of 500,000 Hindus or Buddhists or Athiests for the same reason if they were intent on creating their own state in Palestine by expelling the existing people.

Please show me where you read that was the reason for the Mufti associating with Hitler and Nazis

Don't hold your breath. He makes up shit as he goes. LOL

But Roudy, I thought Monti was "known for posting facts" ? hahahaha

What other reason could he possibly have for not wanting Jews to flood into Palestine?

 

[Roudy]

To be fair, the Mufti was trying to avoid having 500,000 European Jews settle in Palestine AND expel his people from their lands and homes. He would have resisted the arrival of 500,000 Hindus or Buddhists or Athiests for the same reason if they were intent on creating their own state in Palestine by expelling the existing people.

Please show me where you read that was the reason for the Mufti associating with Hitler and Nazis

Don't hold your breath. He makes up shit as he goes. LOL

But Roudy, I thought Monti was "known for posting facts" ? hahahaha

He sure posts a lot of FUCKTS!

 

[Roudy]

To be fair, the Mufti was trying to avoid having 500,000 European Jews settle in Palestine AND expel his people from their lands and homes. He would have resisted the arrival of 500,000 Hindus or Buddhists or Athiests for the same reason if they were intent on creating their own state in Palestine by expelling the existing people.

How about you being fair.? The land never belonged to the Arabs. The Mufti, who is basically the God father of Islamic movements and Muslim Brotherhood, allied himself with Hitler and created a Muslim army in Bosnia that fought side by side with the Nazis. The US state dept. declared the Mufti a Nazi, which means, the founder of the Palestinian national bowel movement was a fucking Nazi. The Mufti was an Islamist thug who killed fellow Muslim moderates who preached coexistence, because he saw an opportunity to steal the land and make it "Muslim land", and exporting his barbaric IslamoNazi ideology to the rest of the Middle East, which he did (look up the Baath party roots). The Mufti's jihadists were behind the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the ancient Jews of Hebron. The Mufti was also behind the mass slaughter and ethnic cleansing of ancient Jews in Iraq and other Arab Muslim countries. The Mufti paid visits to Hitler's death camps and declared his pleasure with what he saw, and wanted to implement Hitler's "final solution" upon the Jews and Christians of the Middle East, that's why he successfully blended Islam with Nazism and Arab nationalism.

This is the scum you are defending and rooting for. Your cause is based on evil from it's inception All mentally ill losers like .Mohomod Latici qualify as foot soldiers.

"How about you being fair.? The land never belonged to the Arabs."

Who do you think it belonged to? According to the 1946 Survey of Palestine submitted to the UN by the Mandatory 90% or more of the land was owned by the Arabs:

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1943 after the Arab invasion had completed? The land belonged to the OTTOMAN TURKS for 600 years, and then fell under British control. Let's also not forget that the Ottoman Turks did their lite own version of ethnic cleansing on the Jews, as well as underreported their presence in the land INTENTIONALLY. Remind us again, are Ottoman Turks, Arabs? Ha ha ha.

How can that be when only 25,168 Muslims and 10,414 Christians migrated to Palestine between 1922 and 1937 as opposed to 245,433 Jews migrating to Palestine? The invasion seems to be Jewish.

	All religions.	Moslems.	Jews.	Christians.	Others.
Total increase of population Increase by migration Natural increase	631,272 281,339 349,933	286,770 25,168 261,602	302,294 245,433 56,861	38,305 10,414 27,891	3,903 324 3,579

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Report of the Mandatory to the LoN 31 December 1937

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There were Jews who had been there in their ancestral homeland since ancient times, and then there were Jews who migrated to their holy land to join their brethern, a land that was owned by the Ottomans for 600 years and then under British control. The Arabs had no control or say into the goings on of that land for at least 800 years. Along with the migration of the Jews, the Arabs migrated under greater numbers. In other words, a majority of the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians today (as of 1967, an invented name for an invented people) are invaders from neighboring Arab lands.

And here are some Arabs and "Palestinians" of the time saying the same exact thing:

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".
- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".
- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".
- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".
- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -

“Why is it that on June 4th 1967 I was a Jordanian and overnight I became a Palestinian?”
“We did not particularly mind Jordanian rule. The teaching of the destruction of Israel was a definite part of the curriculum, but we considered ourselves Jordanian until the Jews returned to Jerusalem. Then all of the sudden we were Palestinians - they removed the star from the Jordanian flag and all at once we had a Palestinian flag”.
“When I finally realized the lies and myths I was taught, it is my duty as a righteous person to speak out”.
-Former PLO Terrorist

 

[docmauser1]

How can that be when only 25,168 Muslims and 10,414 Christians migrated to Palestine between 1922 and 1937 as opposed to 245,433 Jews migrating to Palestine? ...

Very simple! Illegal immigration is an arab forte, of course.

 

[montelatici]

How can that be when only 25,168 Muslims and 10,414 Christians migrated to Palestine between 1922 and 1937 as opposed to 245,433 Jews migrating to Palestine? ...

Very simple! Illegal immigration is an arab forte, of course.

It includes illegal immigration. The Jewish immigration was almost all illegal.

 

[Roudy]

To be fair, the Mufti was trying to avoid having 500,000 European Jews settle in Palestine AND expel his people from their lands and homes. He would have resisted the arrival of 500,000 Hindus or Buddhists or Athiests for the same reason if they were intent on creating their own state in Palestine by expelling the existing people.

Please show me where you read that was the reason for the Mufti associating with Hitler and Nazis

Don't hold your breath. He makes up shit as he goes. LOL

But Roudy, I thought Monti was "known for posting facts" ? hahahaha

What other reason could he possibly have for not wanting Jews to flood into Palestine?

An islamic takeover of Palestine with him as the leader, by allying himself with the Nazis. Palestinians have a way of always choosing the wrong side.

 

[montelatici]

I see, you have run out of bullshit and are now attempting to deflect. But, you have made fools of yourselves as usual.

As far as the old no Palestinian trick. This is from a letter written by the Palestinian Delegation in London to the British in 1922!!! As usual, source documents, not Wiki.

"(a) In the preamble to the Palestine Order in Council "the declaration of November 2nd, 1917, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish People" is made a basis for this Order; the People of Palestine cannot accept this Declaration as a basis for discussion. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

 

[docmauser1]

How can that be when only 25,168 Muslims and 10,414 Christians migrated to Palestine between 1922 and 1937 as opposed to 245,433 Jews migrating to Palestine? ...

Very simple! Illegal immigration is an arab forte, of course.

It includes illegal immigration. The Jewish immigration was almost all illegal.

Legal immigration including illegal immigration "numbers"?! Now, that's hilarious!

 

[Roudy]

I see, you have run out of bullshit and are now attempting to deflect. But, you have made fools of yourselves as usual.

As far as the old no Palestinian trick. This is from a letter written by the Palestinian Delegation in London to the British in 1922!!! As usual, source documents, not Wiki.

"(a) In the preamble to the Palestine Order in Council "the declaration of November 2nd, 1917, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish People" is made a basis for this Order; the People of Palestine cannot accept this Declaration as a basis for discussion. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

So you're quoting a paper that the Arabs wrote to the Brits, objecting to the intention of the creation of a Jewish national home. Who gives a shat what they thought, they want ALL LANDS to be Muslim. It's nothing new.

But at least you are confirming that A- The Arabs did not own the land and B- the intention of the Brits and the world was to create a Jewish national home in said land.

While at the same time giving the land east of the Jordan river to the Arab Muslims as "Arab Palestine". Greedy Arabs took that, called it JORDAN, and now want the rest as well.

And speaking of 1922 this is what the Brits and the world intended:

 

[montelatici]

I see, you have run out of bullshit and are now attempting to deflect. But, you have made fools of yourselves as usual.

As far as the old no Palestinian trick. This is from a letter written by the Palestinian Delegation in London to the British in 1922!!! As usual, source documents, not Wiki.

"(a) In the preamble to the Palestine Order in Council "the declaration of November 2nd, 1917, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish People" is made a basis for this Order; the People of Palestine cannot accept this Declaration as a basis for discussion. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

So you're quoting a paper that the Arabs wrote to the Brits, objecting to the intention of the creation of a Jewish national home. Who gives a shat what they thought, they want ALL LANDS to be Muslim. It's nothing new.

But at least you are confirming that A- The Arabs did not own the land and B- the intention of the Brits and the world was to create a Jewish national home in said land.

While at the same time giving the land east of the Jordan river to the Arab Muslims as "Arab Palestine". Greedy Arabs took that, called it JORDAN, and now want the rest as well.

And speaking of 1922 this is what the Brits and the world intended:

Oh dear. I debunked this propaganda already. But the point I was making was not this one. The point was that the Christians and Muslims called themselves the Palestinian people, as shown in the letter to the British, back in 1922.

As far as Trans-Jordan being part of Palestine let's review the Report of 1921 it reports on Trans-Jordania separately, in a separate section, as a separate territory and gives separate population figures, to wit:

"X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people."

furthermore, why would the Emir be said to have traveled to Palestine if Trans-Jordania was part of Palestine?

"I paid a visit to Amman on April 18th as the guest of the Emir and explained in an address to the sheikhs and notables the arrangement that had been made. The Emir came to Palestine again in the month of May. The political and technical officers of the Palestine Administration have made frequent visits to Trans-Jordania and have assisted the local officials with their advice" - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

So, stop with this silly propaganda, your dog won't hunt. Another Zionist myth debunked.





- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

 

[JoeB131]

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How about you being fair.? The land never belonged to the Arabs. The Mufti, who is basically the God father of Islamic movements and Muslim Brotherhood, allied himself with Hitler and created a Muslim army in Bosnia that fought side by side with the Nazis. The US state dept. declared the Mufti a Nazi, which means, the founder of the Palestinian national bowel movement was a fucking Nazi. The Mufti was an Islamist thug who killed fellow Muslim moderates who preached coexistence, because he saw an opportunity to steal the land and make it "Muslim land", and exporting his barbaric IslamoNazi ideology to the rest of the Middle East, which he did (look up the Baath party roots). The Mufti's jihadists were behind the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the ancient Jews of Hebron. The Mufti was also behind the mass slaughter and ethnic cleansing of ancient Jews in Iraq and other Arab Muslim countries. The Mufti paid visits to Hitler's death camps and declared his pleasure with what he saw, and wanted to implement Hitler's "final solution" upon the Jews and Christians of the Middle East, that's why he successfully blended Islam with Nazism and Arab nationalism.

This is the scum you are defending and rooting for. Your cause is based on evil from it's inception All mentally ill losers like .Mohomod Latici qualify as foot soldiers.

A lot of folks who threw in with the Axis powers weren't Nazis. They were simply people who wanted what was best for their countries and their people.

The thing was, the British lied to the Arabs. They told them, "REvolt against the Ottomans, and we'll give you your own countries."

Instead, they handed the best parts to the Zionists. Or they would have, if htey could find enough European Jews dumb enough to go along with the scheme. Most didn't want any part of Israel before the war.

 

[Roudy]

I see, you have run out of bullshit and are now attempting to deflect. But, you have made fools of yourselves as usual.

As far as the old no Palestinian trick. This is from a letter written by the Palestinian Delegation in London to the British in 1922!!! As usual, source documents, not Wiki.

"(a) In the preamble to the Palestine Order in Council "the declaration of November 2nd, 1917, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish People" is made a basis for this Order; the People of Palestine cannot accept this Declaration as a basis for discussion. - See more at: UK correspondence with Palestine Arab Delegation and Zionist Organization British policy in Palestine Churchill White Paper - UK documentation Cmd. 1700 Non-UN document excerpts 1 July 1922

So you're quoting a paper that the Arabs wrote to the Brits, objecting to the intention of the creation of a Jewish national home. Who gives a shat what they thought, they want ALL LANDS to be Muslim. It's nothing new.

But at least you are confirming that A- The Arabs did not own the land and B- the intention of the Brits and the world was to create a Jewish national home in said land.

While at the same time giving the land east of the Jordan river to the Arab Muslims as "Arab Palestine". Greedy Arabs took that, called it JORDAN, and now want the rest as well.

And speaking of 1922 this is what the Brits and the world intended:

Oh dear. I debunked this propaganda already. But the point I was making was not this one. The point was that the Christians and Muslims called themselves the Palestinian people, as shown in the letter to the British, back in 1922.

As far as Trans-Jordan being part of Palestine let's review the Report of 1921 it reports on Trans-Jordania separately, in a separate section, as a separate territory and gives separate population figures, to wit:

"X.--TRANS-JORDANIA.

Included in the area of the Palestine Mandate is the territory of Trans-Jordania. It is bounded on the north by the frontier of Syria, placed under the mandate of France; on the south by the kingdom of the Hejaz; and on the west by the line of the Jordan and the Dead Sea; while on the east it stretches into the desert and ends--the boundary is not yet defined--where Mesopotamia begins. Trans-Jordania has a population of probably 350,000 people."

furthermore, why would the Emir be said to have traveled to Palestine if Trans-Jordania was part of Palestine?

"I paid a visit to Amman on April 18th as the guest of the Emir and explained in an address to the sheikhs and notables the arrangement that had been made. The Emir came to Palestine again in the month of May. The political and technical officers of the Palestine Administration have made frequent visits to Trans-Jordania and have assisted the local officials with their advice" - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

So, stop with this silly propaganda, your dog won't hunt. Another Zionist myth debunked.





- See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Who cares what the emir said! Did you see all the Arab leaders of the time, including the PLO founder said about Palestine being a fake concept? The point is, the Brits, the ones who controlled the land, and the League of Nations which later became the UN, had allocated israel as JEWISH Palestine, and Jordan as Arab Palestine. The end.