16 parralle similarities between the 9/11 and covid ops hoax.

[LA RAM FAN]

Why not include 11/22? ...

Meh ... part and parcel of the Old World Order ... John Wilkes Booth had help too ...

Very good point on 11/22,we had a chance to be a free country again back then with the chance of having the people control the government as they are suppose to as the constitution states and that would be the case today had he lived instead of all these corporations controlling it as they do,all that hope of getting back to the constitution of the United States all changed and the world changed for the worse starting on 11/22,1963.

You really can't say that for sure. No way to know what would have happened if Kennedy had lived. But gauging just by the metric of foreign policy, his actions in escalating the Vietnam War and in directing and financing the Bay of Pigs via the CIA were pretty much on par with most of the Presidents in the military industrial complex era, and foretell a second term not substantially different from LBJ.

Danm are you ever the ignorant one. LBJ esculated it,you have been brainwashed by the corporate controlled media cause first off,kennedy tried to withdraw us from vietna,that is well known now,that was the main reason he was assassinated,he never sent in combat troops he only sent in advisors,LBJ sent in the combat troops. it was all over in the stars and stripes pentagon papers of headlines reading kennedy to withdraw from vietnam by end of 1965,johnson reversed his policys sheep andkennedy was lied to by the CIA,they tricked him into trying to invade cuba He INHERITED the bay of pigs invasion from Eisenhower and inherited vietnam from truman.the bay of pigs plan he was presented was vastly different than the one they presented to eisenhower,the one they prestned to eisrhower was designed to succeed,where the one to kennedy was designed so they would fail. They assured him there would be no military involvement needed and when it turned out they lied to him,they tried to get him to call out the military for an invasion.

so enough of your babble that LBJS policys were the same as kennedys nonsense. kennedy was even heard yelling saying he would splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the four winds after they lied to him about the plans of the invasion.

thank god kennedy went through the bay of pigs invasion because after that happened,he stopped listening to the military and when the cuban misile crisis happened,he took the advise of his aides and listened to them and ignored the war monger hawks of the military who wanted and urged him to bomb cuba. Had that war monger Nixon been president,i guarantee he WOULD have bombed cuba and got us into world war three,he bowed down to the military same as LBJ.

come back when you learn the facts.

Ok buddy, if you're going to get that worked up about it, have it your way. Just a side note, however... take it for what it's worth, but you might find that it's more effective to communicate your position if you don't come out slinging unprovoked insults at the people you're having a discussion with. I'm down to discuss most anything on here in earnest, but I have no interest in volleying torrents of childish insults that applies to 85% of the posts on here.

there were no insults in there,worst i said was you were ignorant on the facts and heck i was the same way as well for a long time ignorant about what really happened back then but i woke up to the truth a long time ago which i figured by now you would have known the truth about all this as well after all this time,after all its no secret anymore about all this,its common knowledge. Its also my experience that when i see an ignorant post like that clueless of the facts,posters can never admit when they are proven wrong and dont want to learn the facts.

My experience is when a non truthful post like that is made,posters are always trolling,because they are shills from langley like surada,candyass and soupnazi paid to come here and lie by their bosses.On the net in my experience 99 0ut of a 100 times when an ignorant post like that is made on kennedy,its someone trolling like soupnazi,surada and candyass,shills from langley paid to lie so its hard to tell when someone is NOT trolling and a shill as they are.

and thanks to Langley shills surada,soupnazi and candyass who trolls truth discussion threads like this,they never have a discussion without throwing unprovoked insults at people so they have stunk up this thread.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

That's how gravity works

Gravity working, at near free fall speed, requires nothing be in the way- as in, no obstruction- and you might want to consider - ALL controlled demolitions drop straight down into it's own foot print at near free fall speed- you might also consider the bldg 7 wasn't hit by a plane and had only minimal fire- you also, might want to follow the money to see the agenda - you might also want to consider, the "official narrative" touted by the 2 lyingest entities on the planet corroborate each other's lies, and, at the time, Bush jr was called being in charge, a Republican, not a friend to the media - there are other *considerations* as well, but, IF you really want to know you can do a little research on your own- use the search engine of your choice (and the videos posted here), and the links provided here New to 9/11 Research? and

1,270 Architects/Engineers Reveal Hard Evidence of Explosive Demolition at World Trade Center on 9/11

Of course one has to want to educate themselves- or, rely on the 2 lyingest entities on the planet- as of now, the choice is the choosers to make- personally, I don't buy the lies- I choose to believe outsiders, eye witnesses, people who earn their living (honestly), not a gov't source which has a 200 year history of lying as it's evidence- but, hey, I'm an analytical and curious person -

this is another sockpuppet shill like candyass and soupnazi.best to put him on ignore with those other two.dont feed the trolls.

 

[Soupnazi630]

IF y'all want some info on Kennedy, can I suggest someone/something besides corporate media ?

This Wednesday, May 12, at 7pm Eastern Time, we have the concluding presentation in our online conference “The National Security State and the Kennedy Assassination.” I will be making that presentation, which will be entitled “Regime Change: The JFK Assassination.” I invite everyone to attend. If you haven’t registered for the conference, you can do so at our conference website. A Zoom link will be sent to you. My presentation, which will be amplified by Apple Keynote slides, will be the most complete talk I have ever given on the Kennedy assassination. Forewarning: It will be around 2 1/2 hours long. So, if you’re a coffee drinker, it would be good to have a pot ready before we get started.


However, we have added one additional session to the conference on Wednesday, May 19, that will be a panel session entirely devoted to Q&A. It will primarily revolve around the political context of the assassination (as compared to the medical evidence in the autopsy that the U.S. national-security state conducted on Kennedy’s body). The panelists will be Douglas Horne, Michael Swanson, John Newman, and me.
Last week, Horne, who served on the staff of the Assassination Records Review Board in the 1990s, delivered an excellent presentation about the war that was being waged between Kennedy and the Pentagon and the CIA over the future direction of America. In fact, I consider it one of Doug’s finest presentations on the Kennedy assassination and, specifically, the war that was taking place between Kennedy and his national-security establishment practically from the time he entered office.

Relevance today of the Kennedy assassination

Disclaimer: No, I've not listened to the above- however, I do know that the US gov't is the lyingest entity on the planet next to the corporate media - I have read (I don't do pod casts or long videos) many contradictions to the "official" narrative about JFK- as in M.A.N.Y.

The medical evidence, referred to in the above copy and paste, may not be hard evidence about who, but it is hard evidence that somebody lied- that somebody is a typical follow the money US gov't "official" bullshit-
I have read the medical evidence referred to- it doesn't jibe with the "official" lie -

I've had posters say, so what? That illustrates the absolute reason this country is in the position we find it in- complacency- I've also had many defenders of Israel chide me for questioning the holahoax numbers- even though they (the defenders) choose to ignore the near genocide numbers of the invasion of what we call the United States on the inhabitants who called it home- I've pointed out, the excuse is the same as the Manifest Destiny bullshit used to sell the near genocide then, for the invasion of the ME in our time- moral high ground bullshit- follow the money, see the agenda-

Now, you may say, so what?; what does that have to do with JFK?
To that I'll use a saying you may or may not be familiar with in reference to riding a Harley or playing a quality made guitar- if I have to explain, you wouldn't understand- you may, at this point say; that's a cop out- in response my reply is- figure it out yourself- I did and so have others- dots have to be connected that require more than 30 second sound bites and 3 sentences-

Or, you can choose to remain steadfastly under the thumb of the lyingest entity on the planet-

None of whichg is evidence of jack shit.

the evidence prpoves Oswald acted alone.

 

[Soupnazi630]

That's how gravity works

Gravity working, at near free fall speed, requires nothing be in the way- as in, no obstruction- and you might want to consider - ALL controlled demolitions drop straight down into it's own foot print at near free fall speed- you might also consider the bldg 7 wasn't hit by a plane and had only minimal fire- you also, might want to follow the money to see the agenda - you might also want to consider, the "official narrative" touted by the 2 lyingest entities on the planet corroborate each other's lies, and, at the time, Bush jr was called being in charge, a Republican, not a friend to the media - there are other *considerations* as well, but, IF you really want to know you can do a little research on your own- use the search engine of your choice (and the videos posted here), and the links provided here New to 9/11 Research? and

1,270 Architects/Engineers Reveal Hard Evidence of Explosive Demolition at World Trade Center on 9/11

Of course one has to want to educate themselves- or, rely on the 2 lyingest entities on the planet- as of now, the choice is the choosers to make- personally, I don't buy the lies- I choose to believe outsiders, eye witnesses, people who earn their living (honestly), not a gov't source which has a 200 year history of lying as it's evidence- but, hey, I'm an analytical and curious person -

Near free fall speed means less than free fall speed which is normal whether something is in the way or not.

There are NOT any architects or engiineers disputing the official investigation. AE for 911 truth are frauds.

 

[Gdjjr]

None of whichg is evidence of jack shit.

the evidence prpoves Oswald acted alone.

You prove, beyond a doubt, that you blindly accept "official" lies from the lyingest entity on the planet with over 100 years of lying as evidence-

 

[Gdjjr]

There are NOT any architects or engiineers disputing the official investigation. AE for 911 truth are frauds.

No, they *earn* their living as architects and engineers- their credentials are listed- the US gov't credentials are elected and selected by elected non-truthers, backed by ignorant message board posters (look in a mirror) who refuse to educate themselves and rely on the 2 lyingest entities on the planet for their evidence-

 

[Gdjjr]

The state lies in all the tongues of good and evil, and whatever it says is lies, and whatever it has, it has stolen, everything it is, is false, it bites with stolen teeth, and it bites often. it is false down to it's bowels.

Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, also Sprach Zarathustra [1883-1885]

 

[Soupnazi630]

None of whichg is evidence of jack shit.

the evidence prpoves Oswald acted alone.

You prove, beyond a doubt, that you blindly accept "official" lies from the lyingest entity on the planet with over 100 years of lying as evidence-

Saying that an " entitity " lies means nothing. YOU lie. Does that mean everything you say is a lie? No.

It is impossible for anyone or anything to lie all the time about everything.

This " entitity " you refer to does not even exist you cannot even specifically define what it is.

It is all about the evidence and you cannot present any credible evidence that anyone except Oswald shot Kennedy.

 

[Soupnazi630]

The state lies in all the tongues of good and evil, and whatever it says is lies, and whatever it has, it has stolen, everything it is, is false, it bites with stolen teeth, and it bites often. it is false down to it's bowels.

Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, also Sprach Zarathustra [1883-1885]

Nietzche was a fool.

No one can lie about everything it is impossible for anyone or anything to be lying about WHATEVER IT SAYS.

You are creating an epic fail.

 

[Soupnazi630]

There are NOT any architects or engiineers disputing the official investigation. AE for 911 truth are frauds.

No, they *earn* their living as architects and engineers- their credentials are listed- the US gov't credentials are elected and selected by elected non-truthers, backed by ignorant message board posters (look in a mirror) who refuse to educate themselves and rely on the 2 lyingest entities on the planet for their evidence-

Wrong.

the so called architects and engineers for 911 truth earn their living as convenience store clerks, wal mart associates, janitors, and bartenders and any other assorted miundane jobs. They are not archtects and engineers with only a few exceptions.

This is proven fact.

They have no screening process and allow any blowhard to join and sign their petition by claiming to be an engineer or architect and the vast majority of members have no such proeffesiuonal background whatsoever.

They are proven frauds.

 

[Gdjjr]

Nietzche was a fool.

No one can lie about everything it is impossible for anyone or anything to be lying about WHATEVER IT SAYS.

You are creating an epic fail.

Your credentials are what?

 

[Gdjjr]

Wrong.

the so called architects and engineers for 911 truth earn their living as convenience store clerks, wal mart associates, janitors, and bartenders and any other assorted miundane jobs. They are not archtects and engineers with only a few exceptions.

This is proven fact.

They have no screening process and allow any blowhard to join and sign their petition by claiming to be an engineer or architect and the vast majority of members have no such proeffesiuonal background whatsoever.

They are proven fraud

There are links to provide accreditation claims- you, on the other hand, choose to believe the 2 lyingest entities on the planet- that makes you wanting to remain ignorant- of course that is your choice- however, with that choice comes the consequence of remaining ignorant and when given an opportunity to rise above ignorance one chooses to remain ignorant means one is striving to be stupid- help yourself. Stop relying on liars for evidence.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Nietzche was a fool.

No one can lie about everything it is impossible for anyone or anything to be lying about WHATEVER IT SAYS.

You are creating an epic fail.

Your credentials are what?

I made no claims based on expertise it is simple reality.

You cannot specifically define this entity you refer to and it is an absolute impossibility for anyone or any entity to lie ALL THE TIME as you have claimed.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Wrong.

the so called architects and engineers for 911 truth earn their living as convenience store clerks, wal mart associates, janitors, and bartenders and any other assorted miundane jobs. They are not archtects and engineers with only a few exceptions.

This is proven fact.

They have no screening process and allow any blowhard to join and sign their petition by claiming to be an engineer or architect and the vast majority of members have no such proeffesiuonal background whatsoever.

They are proven fraud

There are links to provide accreditation claims- you, on the other hand, choose to believe the 2 lyingest entities on the planet- that makes you wanting to remain ignorant- of course that is your choice- however, with that choice comes the consequence of remaining ignorant and when given an opportunity to rise above ignorance one chooses to remain ignorant means one is striving to be stupid- help yourself. Stop relying on liars for evidence.

No there are not any such links.

You simply join AE911 truth online. State you are an engineer or architect and WHAM you are part of the organization.

No screening, no verification of any kind. any asswipe can join and claim to be what he is not.

There is no such entity you cannot even specifically define it and you are a giullible , naive , brainwashed fool who bought a bridge in brooklyn.

 

[Gdjjr]

You cannot specifically define this entity you refer to and it is an absolute impossibility for anyone or any entity to lie ALL THE TIME as you have claimed.

Over 100 years it my evidence- that and the fact that media has always acted with an agenda- 100 years of lies by every elected representative who took an oath to protect and defend the constitution and didn't/hasn't-

 

[Soupnazi630]

You cannot specifically define this entity you refer to and it is an absolute impossibility for anyone or any entity to lie ALL THE TIME as you have claimed.

Over 100 years it my evidence- that and the fact that media has always acted with an agenda- 100 years of lies by every elected representative who took an oath to protect and defend the constitution and didn't/hasn't-

That is not evidence.

YOU have lied every day of your life so by YOUR own standard your every post is a lie.

 

[Gdjjr]

No there are not any such links.

Richard Gage, a San Francisco Bay Area architect,[13] founded Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth in 2006.[14] Gage's website states that he is a member of the American Institute of Architects and that he worked as an architect for 20 years and was involved in the construction of numerous "fireproof" steel-frame buildings.[15] He became convinced of the need to create an organization that brings together architects and engineers after listening to an independent radio station interview with theologian David Ray Griffin.[14]

and- I'll admit it took a bit of digging- google has removed it from their search engine

Thousands of Experts Are Speaking Out​

Architects (Degreed & Licensed - Active & Retired)​

View/Download/Print the Petition with over 3,000 architect and engineers.​

 

[Gdjjr]

That is not evidence.

YOU have lied every day of your life so by YOUR own standard your every post is a lie.

History- have you ever heard of it?

 

[Soupnazi630]

No there are not any such links.

Richard Gage, a San Francisco Bay Area architect,[13] founded Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth in 2006.[14] Gage's website states that he is a member of the American Institute of Architects and that he worked as an architect for 20 years and was involved in the construction of numerous "fireproof" steel-frame buildings.[15] He became convinced of the need to create an organization that brings together architects and engineers after listening to an independent radio station interview with theologian David Ray Griffin.[14]

and- I'll admit it took a bit of digging- google has removed it from their search engine

Thousands of Experts Are Speaking Out​

Architects (Degreed & Licensed - Active & Retired)​

View/Download/Print the Petition with over 3,000 architect and engineers.Richard​

Richard gage is one person and he only designed residential homes.

None of which contradicts the fact that the organization ADE911 truth is fraudulent

 

[Soupnazi630]

That is not evidence.

YOU have lied every day of your life so by YOUR own standard your every post is a lie.

History- have you ever heard of it?

Yes and you are massively ignorant about history