14 y.o. black intrudor shot and killed in Louisiana, white home owner arrested.

[Steve_McGarrett]

Zimmerman Redux, Merritt Landry | Louisiana Self-defense - Downtrend.com



This is getting ridiculous. The prosecutor is going after this man only because he is a white man who killed a black man, and had it been a black man who killed that young man no one would have said shit.

Do people realize what this will lead to if it keeps up?

Do we realize what this will to lead to if it keeps up? Yes, it will lead to a serious reassessment of the right for every fool in America to have a gun and to shoot first and ask questions later. It will lead to equality in that if a black person shoots a white person or a white person shoots a black person, they will be arrested and treated equally by the law. That's what it will lead up to. The fact you think that whites are threatened by this kind of thing is pathetic. As a white, you expect to be able to shoot black people with no repercussions: well, guess what: there will be repercussions, and if you don't like it, move to an all white country.

The perp climbed a fence to access the man's property dumbass. What do you think he was doing there? Looking for his Skittles?

14 year old Marshall Coulter did not just hop over Merritt Landry's wrought iron fence like the media is telling us. He had to have jumped up onto it and climbed over it...............................like a monkey.

 

[PredFan]

Do we realize what this will to lead to if it keeps up? Yes, it will lead to a serious reassessment of the right for every fool in America to have a gun and to shoot first and ask questions later. It will lead to equality in that if a black person shoots a white person or a white person shoots a black person, they will be arrested and treated equally by the law. That's what it will lead up to. The fact you think that whites are threatened by this kind of thing is pathetic. As a white, you expect to be able to shoot black people with no repercussions: well, guess what: there will be repercussions, and if you don't like it, move to an all white country.

The perp climbed a fence to access the man's property dumbass. What do you think he was doing there? Looking for his Skittles?

Calling people names only shows that you are the dumbass. It is not legal to shoot everyone who interests your yard, no matter what time of day or night.

You're post proved you were the dumbass, but I wanted to put a fine point on it. I didn't say it was legal, but for you to draw all those conclusions and paint everyone with the same brush while ignoring completely the criminal intent of the perp made you a world class dumbass.

 

[PredFan]

What was this 14 year old kid doing at 2 in the morning, scaling a fence to get in someone's backyard in the first place?

I would have waited until he broke into the house and then blew him away up close so there's no need for a hospital.

You know the guy who broke into the New Jersey home and beat up the woman there was unarmed right? No weapon. If she shot him, she too would have shot an unarmed black man.

What was this 14 year old kid doing at 2 in the morning, scaling a fence to get in someone's backyard in the first place?

Maybe he was drunk or on drugs? Once when I was a teenager, late at night one summer, when only I and my mom were at home, some man walked into our house. He was wet from walking though backyards and through peoples' sprinklers. She tried to talk to him and realized he was out of it, either drink or drugs. She approached him, talking to him, took his arm, and escorted him out of the house without incident. Sure, if he had been going to break in, and she didn't have a gun, it would have been safer to run and hide, not approach him, but what if she had just shot and asked questions later? She'd have killed someone who was just high and disoriented. How often do 14 year olds, by themselves, enter peoples homes, when people are in them, burlarize them, and injure or kill the people? Pretty much never. People who have guns need to think before they use them instead of just shooting. All this guy had to do was fire a warning bullet into the sky, make sure his house was locked up and call the police. He did not need to shoot anyone; you pro-gun people are all just salivating to blow someone away. It's sickening.

Boy, the sheer amount of things you are ignorant of is astounding.

...and was the guy supposed to ask the perp how old he was?

Dumbass.

 

[Sunshine]

Do we realize what this will to lead to if it keeps up? Yes, it will lead to a serious reassessment of the right for every fool in America to have a gun and to shoot first and ask questions later. It will lead to equality in that if a black person shoots a white person or a white person shoots a black person, they will be arrested and treated equally by the law. That's what it will lead up to. The fact you think that whites are threatened by this kind of thing is pathetic. As a white, you expect to be able to shoot black people with no repercussions: well, guess what: there will be repercussions, and if you don't like it, move to an all white country.

The perp climbed a fence to access the man's property dumbass. What do you think he was doing there? Looking for his Skittles?

14 year old Marshall Coulter did not just hop over Merritt Landry's wrought iron fence like the media is telling us. He had to have jumped up onto it and climbed over it...............................like a monkey.

Here it would not be considered a break in unless he was in the house. Stand your ground is based upon 'reasonable fear.' If one were to be in the house and the intruder in the lawn, even though he climbed the fence, it would be hard to prove reasonable fear. If the intruder comes in the house, the castle doctrine presumes he is there to do you harm and you can use deadly force.

It seems that Louisiana does have some type of SYG law, but not knowing the facts, I can't really extrapolate how it would apply in this case. I'm guessing Mr. Homeowner is in a heap o' trouble.

 

[PredFan]

What was this 14 year old kid doing at 2 in the morning, scaling a fence to get in someone's backyard in the first place?

I would have waited until he broke into the house and then blew him away up close so there's no need for a hospital.

You know the guy who broke into the New Jersey home and beat up the woman there was unarmed right? No weapon. If she shot him, she too would have shot an unarmed black man.

What was this 14 year old kid doing at 2 in the morning, scaling a fence to get in someone's backyard in the first place?

Maybe he was drunk or on drugs? Once when I was a teenager, late at night one summer, when only I and my mom were at home, some man walked into our house. He was wet from walking though backyards and through peoples' sprinklers. She tried to talk to him and realized he was out of it, either drink or drugs. She approached him, talking to him, took his arm, and escorted him out of the house without incident. Sure, if he had been going to break in, and she didn't have a gun, it would have been safer to run and hide, not approach him, but what if she had just shot and asked questions later? She'd have killed someone who was just high and disoriented. How often do 14 year olds, by themselves, enter peoples homes, when people are in them, burlarize them, and injure or kill the people? Pretty much never. People who have guns need to think before they use them instead of just shooting. All this guy had to do was fire a warning bullet into the sky, make sure his house was locked up and call the police. He did not need to shoot anyone; you pro-gun people are all just salivating to blow someone away. It's sickening.

Hey, hey, hey! I'm pro-gun and I totally disapprove of what this guy did. He makes a bad name for gun owners.

Where I live, a high percentage of people have guns. And most of us know, I've grown up knowing, that you let them come inside the house before you shoot them. Odds are, though, if you call the police they'll get there before he's managed to break in the house. If he's stupid enough to break in with a dog barking. You just find yourself a safe place to wait and the instant he comes in that door or window you shoot the ************ dead. No need to even talk about retreat in your own house.

We had a case here about a year ago where two teens, like 19-year-olds, knocked on a guy's door and when he opened it they forced their way into his house (they had guns!) because they'd heard he had a lot of cash on hand from selling marijuana. They ordered him to open his safe (idiots) from which he was able to grab his pistol and shoot them both. One died at the scene, the other died later. A third guy was waiting outside for them and he was arrested and charged. The guy who did the shooting even had a modest marijuana grow going (for his own use ) and no charges WHATSOEVER were pressed against him.

In this state, anyway, just let the scumbag get inside before you shoot him, and you're perceived as a hero.

Like I stated previously. when you own and carry a gun, you need to know the law. If you don't bother to know it, and you end up in jail, it's your own fault.

I would have laid in wait for the perp until he entered my house, blown his worthless ass to smitherines, then called the cops.

 

[PredFan]

Although...I remember another case where a man had another man down and was stabbing him. This was right downtown, on the sidewalk alongside the city streets! Nobody was doing anything, but one passerby ran to his truck and got a gun, came back to the scene and shot the aggressor dead. He was hailed as a hero. No charges were pressed against him and he was not inside his house. But he was trying to save someone's life.

That exists here in Florida under the very righteous Stand Your Ground Law.

 

[Immanuel]

He shouldn't of shot him if he wasn't a threat.

Should of called the police and turned the lights on is what I'd of done.

Blacks kill twice as many whites per year then the other way around...But somehow that doesn't cause any outrage.

If it was me, I'd have stayed silent, waited by the door for the perp to break in then shot his worthless ass. If it would have been me, he would be in the morgue instead of the hospital.

That would have been better than shooting him like he was a target at a shooting gallery. Maybe, just maybe, he wasn't breaking in, maybe he jumped the fence because they were playing basketball on the street under the street lights and the ball went over the fence.

I realize that is a stretch at 2am in the morning, but you never know.

Only knowing what the article says, I would say this is a much different case than the Zimmerman case.

Immie

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

The perp climbed a fence to access the man's property dumbass. What do you think he was doing there? Looking for his Skittles?

14 year old Marshall Coulter did not just hop over Merritt Landry's wrought iron fence like the media is telling us. He had to have jumped up onto it and climbed over it...............................like a monkey.

Here it would not be considered a break in unless he was in the house. Stand your ground is based upon 'reasonable fear.' If one were to be in the house and the intruder in the lawn, even though he climbed the fence, it would be hard to prove reasonable fear. If the intruder comes in the house, the castle doctrine presumes he is there to do you harm and you can use deadly force.

It seems that Louisiana does have some type of SYG law, but not knowing the facts, I can't really extrapolate how it would apply in this case. I'm guessing Mr. Homeowner is in a heap o' trouble.

Yes Louisiana has 'Stand Your Ground' laws. In their 'Stand Your Ground' law for example, you can be like inside a 7-11 and be standing there and see a person point a gun or knife at the clerk behind the counter threatening him and if you happen to be armed, the SYG law will allow you to pull out your weapon and shoot the guy even though you are not the one being threatened at the time.

Louisiana criminal code RS 14:20 for ]Stand Your Ground' Justifiable Homicide reads:

[” A person who is not engaged in unlawful activity and who is in a place where he or she has a right to be shall have no duty to retreat before using deadly force as provided for in this Section, and may stand his or her ground and meet force with force.

No finder of fact shall be permitted to consider the possibility of retreat as a factor in determining whether or not the person who used deadly force had a reasonable belief that deadly force was reasonable and apparently necessary to prevent a violent or forcible felony involving life or great bodily harm or to prevent the unlawful entry.”]

Now here is Louisiana Self Defense Law:

Louisiana Self Defense Law

What this part of the Justifiable Homicide law essentially means is that if you are not doing anything illegal and are acting in self defense, you are not required to retreat before using deadly force. However, you and your Louisiana criminal defense attorney will also need to prove that you were in fact acting in self defense. The specific Louisiana law for self defense includes the following:


“When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.”



Here is another case I found.

Bystander with Carry Permit Shoots and Kills Suspect With Headshot Who Was Attacking a Police Officer in Baton Rouge
http://gunssavelives.net/self-defen...as-attacking-a-police-officer-in-baton-rouge/

 

[Zona]

Jesus people never learn. Drag the body and carry a throw down piece. Sheesh how many times do I have to repeat it?

I am pretty sure this shooter did not follow this rule.

**** that thieving kid but he should not have been shot for jumping a fence.

 

[Immanuel]

Do we realize what this will to lead to if it keeps up? Yes, it will lead to a serious reassessment of the right for every fool in America to have a gun and to shoot first and ask questions later. It will lead to equality in that if a black person shoots a white person or a white person shoots a black person, they will be arrested and treated equally by the law. That's what it will lead up to. The fact you think that whites are threatened by this kind of thing is pathetic. As a white, you expect to be able to shoot black people with no repercussions: well, guess what: there will be repercussions, and if you don't like it, move to an all white country.

The perp climbed a fence to access the man's property dumbass. What do you think he was doing there? Looking for his Skittles?

14 year old Marshall Coulter did not just hop over Merritt Landry's wrought iron fence like the media is telling us. He had to have jumped up onto it and climbed over it...............................like a monkey.

Funny how a picture can change a lot of things. I was picturing a large front yard and the kid jumping the fence and being quite a way away. This picture puts the whole story in a different light.

Immie

 

[hjmick]

Hazouri, who owns property near Landry's house, said his surveillance cameras captured two juveniles riding BMX bikes up and down Mandeville and Dauphine streets around 1:44 a.m. One of the teens was wearing a blue tank top with white stripes; the other was wearing a light-colored T-shirt, Hazouri said...

Hazouri said his video, which he gave to NOPD detectives, shows the two teens talking in the middle of Mandeville Street outside of Landry's house. The video then shows the teen in the light-colored T-shirt walk his bike across Mandeville toward Landry's house. Then, the teen walks back out to the middle of the road before climbing over Landry's fence, Hazouri said. The other teen in the tank top stayed on the other side of Mandeville Street, Hazouri said.

If the kid is riding bikes with his friend, at a quarter to TWO IN THE MORNING, why is he hopping fences into people's yards? There's something not quite right with the story we're getting...

Based on what we're being told, the kid was shot for trespassing, a bit harsh for the 21st century, but then again, we are talking about New Orleans. The third deadliest city in the U.S. last year, how was the homeowner to know this kid's intentions? He'd been a victim of burglaries a couple of times before... In the wee hours of the morning, how was he to know the kid was a kid? The kid is awaiting trial for burglary, history would lead one to think he was about to commit another.

I don't know... You hate to see a kid lose his future for simple trespassing, but, if you look at the facts we've been provided honestly, you can see where the homeowner's mind was during the encounter.

 

[Zona]

Do we realize what this will to lead to if it keeps up? Yes, it will lead to a serious reassessment of the right for every fool in America to have a gun and to shoot first and ask questions later. It will lead to equality in that if a black person shoots a white person or a white person shoots a black person, they will be arrested and treated equally by the law. That's what it will lead up to. The fact you think that whites are threatened by this kind of thing is pathetic. As a white, you expect to be able to shoot black people with no repercussions: well, guess what: there will be repercussions, and if you don't like it, move to an all white country.

The perp climbed a fence to access the man's property dumbass. What do you think he was doing there? Looking for his Skittles?

14 year old Marshall Coulter did not just hop over Merritt Landry's wrought iron fence like the media is telling us. He had to have jumped up onto it and climbed over it...............................like a monkey.

I would rather you just come out and say ******. I would respect you more, honestly. Veiled shit like what you try makes me sick and it makes you sort of a *****.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

The perp climbed a fence to access the man's property dumbass. What do you think he was doing there? Looking for his Skittles?

14 year old Marshall Coulter did not just hop over Merritt Landry's wrought iron fence like the media is telling us. He had to have jumped up onto it and climbed over it...............................like a monkey.

I would rather you just come out and say ******. I would respect you more, honestly. Veiled shit like what you try makes me sick and it makes you sort of a *****.

Nah. I will be a little bit more respectful and call him what he truly is................a negro.

 

[Zona]

What was this 14 year old kid doing at 2 in the morning, scaling a fence to get in someone's backyard in the first place?

I would have waited until he broke into the house and then blew him away up close so there's no need for a hospital.

You know the guy who broke into the New Jersey home and beat up the woman there was unarmed right? No weapon. If she shot him, she too would have shot an unarmed black man.

What was this 14 year old kid doing at 2 in the morning, scaling a fence to get in someone's backyard in the first place?

Maybe he was drunk or on drugs? Once when I was a teenager, late at night one summer, when only I and my mom were at home, some man walked into our house. He was wet from walking though backyards and through peoples' sprinklers. She tried to talk to him and realized he was out of it, either drink or drugs. She approached him, talking to him, took his arm, and escorted him out of the house without incident. Sure, if he had been going to break in, and she didn't have a gun, it would have been safer to run and hide, not approach him, but what if she had just shot and asked questions later? She'd have killed someone who was just high and disoriented. How often do 14 year olds, by themselves, enter peoples homes, when people are in them, burlarize them, and injure or kill the people? Pretty much never. People who have guns need to think before they use them instead of just shooting. All this guy had to do was fire a warning bullet into the sky, make sure his house was locked up and call the police. He did not need to shoot anyone; you pro-gun people are all just salivating to blow someone away. It's sickening.

Hey, hey, hey! I'm pro-gun and I totally disapprove of what this guy did. He makes a bad name for gun owners.

Where I live, a high percentage of people have guns. And most of us know, I've grown up knowing, that you let them come inside the house before you shoot them. Odds are, though, if you call the police they'll get there before he's managed to break in the house. If he's stupid enough to break in with a dog barking. You just find yourself a safe place to wait and the instant he comes in that door or window you shoot the ************ dead. No need to even talk about retreat in your own house.

We had a case here about a year ago where two teens, like 19-year-olds, knocked on a guy's door and when he opened it they forced their way into his house (they had guns!) because they'd heard he had a lot of cash on hand from selling marijuana. They ordered him to open his safe (idiots) from which he was able to grab his pistol and shoot them both. One died at the scene, the other died later. A third guy was waiting outside for them and he was arrested and charged. The guy who did the shooting even had a modest marijuana grow going (for his own use ) and no charges WHATSOEVER were pressed against him.

In this state, anyway, just let the scumbag get inside before you shoot him, and you're perceived as a hero.

We gun owners here in Arizona know this very very well here. Not climbing OUT the window, not running down the street with your stuff...IN YOUR HOME, BLOW HIS ******* HEAD OFF.

End of story. This includes not shooting someone for jumping a damn fence. It makes it so old guys dont shoot kids for retrieving balls. No, this ass hole 14 year old is a thief but there are rules for a reason. This shooter screwed up.

 

[Zona]

14 year old Marshall Coulter did not just hop over Merritt Landry's wrought iron fence like the media is telling us. He had to have jumped up onto it and climbed over it...............................like a monkey.

I would rather you just come out and say ******. I would respect you more, honestly. Veiled shit like what you try makes me sick and it makes you sort of a *****.

Nah. I will be a little bit more respectful and call him what he truly is................a negro.

Nah, just keep calling them monkeys. Righty.

 

[R.C. Christian]

I don't see any good reason why the home owner would have wasted the punk.

 

[tinydancer]

Its an opinion piece, so I would like a better source.

Also, the boy does appear to have broken into the property, by scaling the fence, however, he wasn't inside the residence when he was shot. All the man needed to do was to keep an eye on the rear door and phone the police. He could have shot the boy if, and only if, he entered the property.

He is being charged because his life was not threatened. Someone comes onto your property, your life is not in danger until the assailant comes face to face with you.

It's Louisiana dearheart. That boy is coming across your line he's coming for the kill.

 

[tinydancer]

I guess we have too many on the board who've never been to the deep south.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

The perp climbed a fence to access the man's property dumbass. What do you think he was doing there? Looking for his Skittles?

14 year old Marshall Coulter did not just hop over Merritt Landry's wrought iron fence like the media is telling us. He had to have jumped up onto it and climbed over it...............................like a monkey.

Funny how a picture can change a lot of things. I was picturing a large front yard and the kid jumping the fence and being quite a way away. This picture puts the whole story in a different light.

Immie

Yes the pictures can change everything in a new perspective. If you've ever been to New Orleans neighborhoods, the homes are real close together and the driveways are small and gated. Many driveways are enclosed to make courtyards. Here is another picture of the yard after you've walked through he gate.

Notice the bicycles to the right of the trash can right of the door. That is probably what the 14 year old was going for but how was Mr. Landry supposed to know at 2 am in the morning?

 

[PredFan]

He shouldn't of shot him if he wasn't a threat.

Should of called the police and turned the lights on is what I'd of done.

Blacks kill twice as many whites per year then the other way around...But somehow that doesn't cause any outrage.

If it was me, I'd have stayed silent, waited by the door for the perp to break in then shot his worthless ass. If it would have been me, he would be in the morgue instead of the hospital.

That would have been better than shooting him like he was a target at a shooting gallery. Maybe, just maybe, he wasn't breaking in, maybe he jumped the fence because they were playing basketball on the street under the street lights and the ball went over the fence.

I realize that is a stretch at 2am in the morning, but you never know.

Only knowing what the article says, I would say this is a much different case than the Zimmerman case.

Immie

A huge stretch but yeah, it's not the same as that case.