1 in 5 US Renters Risk Eviction by 9/30/2020

[georgephillip]

We cite Hardt and Negri, adding another piece to the puzzle.

'The Renaissance discovered the freedom of labor, the (vis viva [italics]): materialism interpreted it an capitalist modernity subjugated it. Today the refusal of waged labor and the development of intellectual productive forces repropose intact that alternative that at the dawn of modernity was crushed and expelled. The vis viva of the materialist alternative to the domination of capitalist idealism and spiritualism was never completely extinguished.'
(Labor of Dionysus: A Critique of the State Form)

 

[georgephillip]

Why not call the private property of the means of production theft -- a thousand times over because exercised also on our immaterial labor, on the most profound and indomitable nature of humanity? Why not, in any case, operate scientifically on this plane, reconstructing the dynamics of domination, the functioning of the State and law, as functions of the absurd and wretched machinations of that which is dead

A Communist society would function without markets, prices, and states.

If We Want Prosperity, Prices Should Be Determined by Markets rather than Politicians

 

[georgephillip]

It's interesting that H&N combine capitalist idealism with spiritualism, when the overspiritualization of the socius continues and is reinforced by blm rioting and destruction.

H&N?

Gilles Deleuze - Wikipedia

"In the two volumes of Capitalism and Schizophrenia, Anti-Oedipus (1972) and A Thousand Plateaus (1980),

"Deleuze and Guattari describe history as a congealing and regimentation of 'desiring-production' (a concept combining features of Freudian drives and Marxist labor) into the modern individual (typically neurotic and repressed), the nation-state (a society of continuous control), and capitalism (an anarchy domesticated into infantilizing commodification).

"Deleuze, following Karl Marx, welcomes capitalism's destruction of traditional social hierarchies as liberating, but inveighs against its homogenization of all values to the aims of the market."

 

[gipper]

Stockman does list subprime in the index. We'll excerpt shortly.

I'm less interested in Stockman saying, in 2013, that subprime mortgages were bad, than I would be in him saying they were bad back in say 2005.

Why?

The incongruous manner in which Citigroup spent the last few years of its pre-bailout life drifting toward the iceberg speaks volumes about the financial deformations that had settled on Wall Street. It goes without saying that no one saw any danger in its creation. It was literally voted through by officialdom, since Chairman Greenspan, Treasury Secretary Rubin, his deputy Larry Summers, and the banking committees of both houses had all supported the Glass-Steagal repeal which enabled the Citibank-Travelers merger.

Stockman is criticizing everyone here. 'NO ONE saw any danger'

Great. Did he see any danger? Was he Cassandra, warning of the dangers but never believed?

Or was he just as blind as everyone else? Inquiring minds want to know.

So what you’re saying is Stockman has no right to criticize, because he wasn’t outspoken against the danger when it was occurring.

Do you think this is logical thinking or just ignorance?

He can whine and bitch all he wants. That's kind of his thing.

He’s also very informative and intelligent.

In your world, one can’t criticize corruption. Not in mine.

 

[Shawnee_b]

Because in the greatest economy the world has ever known, people are being evicted from their apartments.

You CANNOT be this stupid. It's just not fucking possible.

Yes he can, watch some of his posts.

 

[georgephillip]

Working instead of collecting welfare may sound stupid to a lib

but for poor people its the first step to a better life

You should mention that to Trump.
Maybe he will find someone capable of controlling his virus?

Trump Campaign Reportedly Orders Red ‘Trump-Branded’ Face Masks

 

[badger2]

We thank georgephillip for some interest in deleuze and guattari (aka D&G). H&N (aka Hardt and Negri, Labor of Dionysus: A Critique of the State Form). In communist China, convenience-store clerks are non-human face-recognition machines that make the moneyless transaction.

 

[badger2]

Yes, that should be enough to frustrate most anyone: 'an anarchy domesticated into infantilizing commodification.' Couple this to capitalism's ability to homogenize values, a general equivalency of values, and we can have another go of it a la Stockman. What is the value of the question once asked by John Beasley-Murray? : "What is the value at the point of exchange?" We had pondered the question of surplus value and surplus labor earlier in the thread.

'They got paid on account of the "regulatory brand equity" of the major houses; that is, the safe harbor value at the SEC and the plaintiff's bar that Morgan Stanley's blessing, for example, conferred on the typical economically dubious M&A deals undertaken by CEOs and their boards. Likewise, standard equity and bond underwritings were essentially a "best efforts" placement of securities in the public market by dealer cartels.'
(Stockman, p. 388)

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Evict them all. Hand them a card that say "greetings from Democratic party".

Except they aren't all trump cult morons, and they will remember who slashed their unemployment benefits.

 

[badger2]

Stockman redirects in his index for 'subprime mortgages' to 'housing bubble and adjustable rate mortgages,' followed by 'housing bubble and subprime mortgages.' Under both index entries, he does place a time-span: 1990s - 2000. There are a dozen or so entries for subprime, so it will take time to study to ensure that he does not mention any years after that in these texts.

 

[Ame®icano]

Evict them all. Hand them a card that say "greetings from Democratic party".

Except they aren't all trump cult morons, and they will remember who slashed their unemployment benefits.

Unemployment insurance is funded and paid by states, and in very small portion by the Federal Government, idiot.

Feds should not be involved with UI at all.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Because of the predatory nature of rentals, we're particularly interested in Stockman's mention of equity, private equity.

Because of the predatory nature of rentals,

Tell me more!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A Communist society would function without markets, prices, and states.

They left out a word.

A Communist society would function poorly without markets, prices, and states.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Stockman does list subprime in the index. We'll excerpt shortly.

I'm less interested in Stockman saying, in 2013, that subprime mortgages were bad, than I would be in him saying they were bad back in say 2005.

Why?

The incongruous manner in which Citigroup spent the last few years of its pre-bailout life drifting toward the iceberg speaks volumes about the financial deformations that had settled on Wall Street. It goes without saying that no one saw any danger in its creation. It was literally voted through by officialdom, since Chairman Greenspan, Treasury Secretary Rubin, his deputy Larry Summers, and the banking committees of both houses had all supported the Glass-Steagal repeal which enabled the Citibank-Travelers merger.

Stockman is criticizing everyone here. 'NO ONE saw any danger'

Great. Did he see any danger? Was he Cassandra, warning of the dangers but never believed?

Or was he just as blind as everyone else? Inquiring minds want to know.

So what you’re saying is Stockman has no right to criticize, because he wasn’t outspoken against the danger when it was occurring.

Do you think this is logical thinking or just ignorance?

He can whine and bitch all he wants. That's kind of his thing.

He’s also very informative and intelligent.

In your world, one can’t criticize corruption. Not in mine.

He's a whiney doom monger.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, that should be enough to frustrate most anyone: 'an anarchy domesticated into infantilizing commodification.' Couple this to capitalism's ability to homogenize values, a general equivalency of values, and we can have another go of it a la Stockman. What is the value of the question once asked by John Beasley-Murray? : "What is the value at the point of exchange?" We had pondered the question of surplus value and surplus labor earlier in the thread.

'They got paid on account of the "regulatory brand equity" of the major houses; that is, the safe harbor value at the SEC and the plaintiff's bar that Morgan Stanley's blessing, for example, conferred on the typical economically dubious M&A deals undertaken by CEOs and their boards. Likewise, standard equity and bond underwritings were essentially a "best efforts" placement of securities in the public market by dealer cartels.'
(Stockman, p. 388)

We had pondered the question of surplus value and surplus labor earlier in the thread.

Anyone ever post the definitions on the thread?

 

[Ame®icano]

Because of the predatory nature of rentals, we're particularly interested in Stockman's mention of equity, private equity.

Because of the predatory nature of rentals,

Tell me more!

Well, if you don't give it for free, you are predatory. It has nothing to do with power of contract.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Because of the predatory nature of rentals, we're particularly interested in Stockman's mention of equity, private equity.

Because of the predatory nature of rentals,

Tell me more!

He's nuts.

 

[Mac-7]

The irony here is that you morons screamed and cried about Trump being a dictator, and then spin right around decrying the fact he didn't act like a dictator.

Exactly

 

[badger2]

We thought the definitions had already begun, definitions of surplus value and surplus labor, as Chodorov's passage has already pointed out the complex nature of these concepts. Relative to this thread as well is the investigation of the validity of the term 'predatory' in relation to rent, for example, the tenant is paying for the use of the space though never owns the materials that configurate that space, though will help the landlord pay for it. The landlord always already owns the means of production of this rental of space to H. sapiens.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We thought the definitions had already begun, definitions of surplus value and surplus labor, as Chodorov's passage has already pointed out the complex nature of these concepts.

And yet, no definitions have been posted.