1/3rd of Women in US Military Raped, 90 Percent Reported Sexual Harassment

[manifold]

Oh yeah, a huge difference.

a 6% difference, to be exact.

 

[bodecea]

Funny I served 16 years in the Marine Corps and with women and NEVER once met one that claimed to be raped and only a couple that claimed to be harassed.

why would they confide in you?

Idiot. Most of them were as sexual predatory as ANY man. Confide in him? WTF do YOU know?

Guess what ... getting pregnant is an easy out in every branch. You do the math, fuckwit.

Um...you don't get discharged for getting pregnant anymore, Gunny. Maybe shore duty, but you won't get discharged.


But, I see women running to you for help too.

 

[Ravi]

When liberals post what they call facts.

Always check them.

They are usually wrong.

You were wrong, too.

The figure seems to be somewhere between 2% and 30%, depending on who you believe.

No idea if that compares with civilian life, but IMO, 1 rape in the military is one too many. They need to clean up their act.

 

[Screaming Eagle]

Is this any higher than in the general population? I don't think so.

 

[JenT]

I was a Leader. A Section head, a Maintenance Chief, A Company Gunny and ran Enlisted and Officer single Housing for a year. And NEVER once did any female ever come to me and tell me they were sexually assaulted. I was an Instructor on an Army Base for 4 years where for a while I was in charge of the Troop Barracks that is the only time anyone ever came to me with a sexual Harassment complaint. I got her in touch with the right people though I doubt it went far since she had all kind of discipline problems and was accusing the guy that had my job before me. The one that had to write all her idiotic problems up. That was also where I knew the other Army female that claimed harassment ohh and also racism. Of course her problem was complicated by the fact she was claiming the Instructor was racist against orientals and his wife was oriental.

I knew who she was because we got instructed to NEVER be in a room alone with her. She tried to corner me once. I got up and went into the hallway to have our discussion.

RGS, there probably are some false claims and maybe hopefuls looking to get out or even just transferred. But there are probably plenty of abuses that go on that they just don't want to talk about and are trying hard to forget happened...or maybe planning their own revenge, and I bet some got it.

How stupid is that, to rape a woman who you know is going to have a gun in your presence possibly in places a little isolated...

oh I think you misunderstand Jent, most women in the military do not carry guns and none are allowed to be grunts in the field. their are some exceptions, guns for convoy duty or the women in the MP/SP or whatever police is called for the specific branch. most women in the military fall under hospital/clerical professions and are not on the frontlines so to speak. I do agree with you that women should not be allowed on the frontline co-ed with the troops. and as far as I know that is not being changed.

I had to pull TCN duty once and their were women doing that as well, but they were useless, they were not allowed to do anything alone with the TCN, where I was and had to train/ follow them alone, so they would team me up with a women on occasion and it was pointless in that you had to have extra people to do the job of one person, but it was nice for my morale I guess. other then that why bother.

That's what I was thinking but I thought maybe it had changed. I can't imagine such a high percentage of rape unless they'd been thrown into the mix (again, not that that excuses anything, but certain people will act like I didn't say that, sheesh)

 

[rightwinger]

You deploy troops to an area where they are prohibited from interacting with the local women you have to expect some harassment.

The female soldiers I talked to refered to it as "Queen for a year" they had as many males chasing them as they wanted

 

[Kalam]

Is this any higher than in the general population? I don't think so.

You think 30% of women in the United States have been raped?

 

[JenT]

1/3rd of Women in US Military Raped | NEWS JUNKIE POST

According to NPR, “In 2003, a survey of female veterans found that 30 percent said they were raped in the military. A 2004 study of veterans who were seeking help for post-traumatic stress disorder found that 71 percent of the women said they were sexually assaulted or raped while serving. And a 1995 study of female veterans of the Gulf and earlier wars, found that 90 percent had been sexually harassed.”

The BBC recently reported on The Lonely Soldier: The Private War of Women Serving in Iraq by Helen Benedict. This book examines the extreme difficulties female soldiers have in serving abroad. Benedict interviewed several women in the military to get a deeper understanding of the issue, and some of their stories were real eye openers.

Army specialist Chantelle Henneberry spoke of some of her experiences in Iraq, “Everybody’s supposed to have a battle buddy in the army, and females are supposed to have one to go to the latrines with, or to the showers – that’s so you don’t get raped by one of the men on your own side. But because I was the only female there, I didn’t have a battle buddy. My battle buddy was my gun and my knife.”

Another study concluded that 90% of all women serving are sexually harassed. Another one estimates that 90% of all the rapes do not get reported, despite supposedly easier ways to report the crime with confidentiality since 2005. Either way, this appears to be an epidemic that needs to be dealt with.

Thoughts?

Bullshit.

uh oh

(biting lip)

Gunny I need to report...

 

[JenT]

Is this any higher than in the general population? I don't think so.

You think 30% of women in the United States have been raped?

Raped or harassed, I'd say so...include harassment and that number is low

 

[Modbert]

Is this any higher than in the general population? I don't think so.

And why should the Military be the same as the general population?

And again, someone posted a link earlier (think it was G) which said the DoD said 90% of rapes go unreported. There are different numbers from different sources all over the place. However, I doubt the DoD has any reason to lie about those numbers, nor do I'd say even 50% of all reported sexual harassment cases get reported.

The main point is that even in 2010, the environment here needs to change.

 

[Samson]

Is this any higher than in the general population? I don't think so.

And why should the Military be the same as the general population?

And again, someone posted a link earlier (think it was G) which said the DoD said 90% of rapes go unreported. There are different numbers from different sources all over the place. However, I doubt the DoD has any reason to lie about those numbers, nor do I'd say even 50% of all reported sexual harassment cases get reported.

The main point is that even in 2010, the environment here needs to change.

Environment needs to change?

You mean we need a 100% homosexual military?

Then we'd be Holland.

 

[Kalam]

#1 Why would you assume I'm self loathing? I just know how men, some who already have questionable standards, placed on the battlefield fighting for their lives at times, having been psychologically conditioned to be hardened to emotions and sensitivies....it's just tipping the scale for disaster. Not excusing it, just sayin you throw women in there and its just foolish IMO, and women pay the price.

Is there any evidence of this being a widespread problem or any pertinent psychological study that you can cite? Generally, opinions are substantiated before they're used to form policy.

#2 In the video, "aiming the kuffar"? wow, not even pretending to fight for, oh, anything like freedom, just aiming your machine guns at unbelievers of Allah? Did I miss something or did you?

As usual, you seem to be clueless. Were you under the impression that there were roving bands of Muslim women in the Caucasus that shoot every non-Muslim they happen to encounter?

"Our targets are the Russian occupation forces, their military bases, command headquarters and also their local collaborators who pursue and kill peaceful Muslims. Civil objects and innocent civilians are not our targets." - Dokka Khamatovich Umarov (Emir)

"[Shaykh Abdul-Halim Sadulayev (President, KIA 2006)] also said that while the resistance will continue to try to inflict the maximum damage on the Russian armed forces and military targets, they will not attack peaceful civilians, women, and children, and will not take them hostage." - RFE

"We would not like to be akin to those who kill sleeping civilians with bombs and shells." - Amir Khattab (commander of foreign mujahideen, KIA 2002)​

 

[Screaming Eagle]

Is this any higher than in the general population? I don't think so.

And why should the Military be the same as the general population?

And again, someone posted a link earlier (think it was G) which said the DoD said 90% of rapes go unreported. There are different numbers from different sources all over the place. However, I doubt the DoD has any reason to lie about those numbers, nor do I'd say even 50% of all reported sexual harassment cases get reported.

The main point is that even in 2010, the environment here needs to change.

For one thing the story never specified if they were raped by fellow soldiers and while on active duty.

 

[Screaming Eagle]

Is this any higher than in the general population? I don't think so.

You think 30% of women in the United States have been raped?

That's what they say, you hear anywhere from one in four to one in three. Why do you think that is low?

 

[Kalam]

Is this any higher than in the general population? I don't think so.

You think 30% of women in the United States have been raped?

That's what they say, you hear anywhere from one in four to one in three. Why do you think that is low?

Seems high to me if we're talking about actual rape.

 

[Modbert]

Environment needs to change?

You mean we need a 100% homosexual military?

Then we'd be Holland.

I think the terrorists would be pissed off more somehow.

 

[inquisitive]

So if a system is already in place by which a female soldier can go to her commanding officer or another officer who is in charge of hearing these complaints...and can voice her complaint without fear of retribution...

Then why is this number, if accurate, still so frighteningly high?

If we acknowledge that a system is in place, which it is. But we also acknowledge that obviously large numbers of crimes are going unreported...perhaps the questions we should be asking are:

- What is it about the military environment that makes incidents of rape and sexual assault so much more prevalent?

- What can be done to change this?


For the record, I too am shocked by these numbers and find them almost too high to be believed. In my experience, the female Air Force officers I encountered voiced almost exact opposite opinions of what this article states. They experienced an easier time getting moved to better jobs, people making absolutely sure that they were respected and listened to...and in some cases, a higher rate of men wanting to date them because the available pool of women to date was smaller. The female Air Force officers I was friends with LOVED being a female in the military. (Again...this is purely anecdotal and doesn't "mean" anything...but it does help to explain why I am so shocked by this report).

I believe it. The Air Force as a whole has a different mentality than the Marines and the Army .

 

[Modbert]

I believe it. The Air Force as a whole has a different mentality than the Marines and the Army .

I remember reading a couple times that Air Force was the place where the least incidents happened. So I wouldn't be surprised if this or that were true.

 

[bodecea]

I believe it. The Air Force as a whole has a different mentality than the Marines and the Army .

I remember reading a couple times that Air Force was the place where the least incidents happened. So I wouldn't be surprised if this or that were true.

The Air Force Academy however is another story.

 

[CurveLight]

Funny I served 16 years in the Marine Corps and with women and NEVER once met one that claimed to be raped and only a couple that claimed to be harassed.

Gee. From your posts you seem like such an approachable and fair minded guy. Yep. Must be something wrong with all those studies.