Yuge impeachment backlash w/independent voters

[Ray From Cleveland]

Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents

The Socialist Liberty-haters are happy, but normal Americans, especially in swing states, support Trump more now than before the latest Hoax.

Great news for America.

WI Obama-Trump voters give Trump 70% favorability.

You are stupidly equating opposition to impeachment with a belief that he is innocent and a sign of support for him. There are other reason to oppose impeachment.

It is a waste of time when you lack the votes in the Senate to convict and remove. Go ahead and make the argument that it will show the nation how the GOP will turn a blind eye to whatever Trump does but the reality is the average voter attention span is not long enough to remember by November 2020.

Censure is the correct course but the Democrats went the wrong way as usual...

You may be overlooking the "show trial" opportunity that the Republicans can offer. Just imagine that Trump's defense team wants to show that the "deep state" in collusion with the democrats and MSM have been unfair to the Trump presidency from day-1. The witness list could include Schiff, Ciaramella (WB), Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state conspirators as part of the "insurance policy" against Trump.

It could be the photo-negative of the schitt show helping Trump and hurting the democrats.

Kewl, then the Democrats could call all the material witnesses like Mike, Mick and Rudy to testify as to who sent them on their political errand in the Ukraine and how they subverted official policy to achieve The Don's goal.

How about they let the Republicans call just one witness period?

Your commies are having an impeachment where only one side is heard. They picked who they want to talk with, they picked who the public could hear, they are going to impeach President over one side alone being heard, and it's still unfair according to your side because they don't get everybody they want.

In spite of the overwhelming disadvantage, you still want more of an advantage while Republicans get none.

 

[MAGAman]

It is a waste of time when you lack the votes in the Senate to convict and remove. Go ahead and make the argument that it will show the nation how the GOP will turn a blind eye to whatever Trump does but the reality is the average voter attention span is not long enough to remember by November 2020.

Censure is the correct course but the Democrats went the wrong way as usual...

Censure is still ridiculous.

Obama sent a plane load of cash to fund terrorism and nobody called for a censure.

There's no evidence, not a single witness to Trump actually doing anything wrong. Just people who "feel" he was wrong.

Besides that, being a Biden isn't a license to be corrupt.

 

[MAGAman]

Local elections vs. National elections
Apples vs. Oranges

Whatever helps you tards sleep at night.

Is this your first election?

Everyone knows the dynamics of Presidential, non-Presidential, and off year elections are extremely different.

 

[jasonnfree]

Let's not judge the slug in the oval office by the growing list of his fixers who go to prison either, even though he said he had the best people.

Roger Stone to Michael Cohen: the men in Trump's orbit implicated in crimes

 

[MAGAman]

Let's not judge the slug in the oval office by the growing list of his fixers who go to prison either, even though he said he had the best people.

Roger Stone to Michael Cohen: the men in Trump's orbit implicated in crimes

Trump's "orbit".

Hahaha

 

[BlindBoo]

Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents

The Socialist Liberty-haters are happy, but normal Americans, especially in swing states, support Trump more now than before the latest Hoax.

Great news for America.

WI Obama-Trump voters give Trump 70% favorability.

You are stupidly equating opposition to impeachment with a belief that he is innocent and a sign of support for him. There are other reason to oppose impeachment.

It is a waste of time when you lack the votes in the Senate to convict and remove. Go ahead and make the argument that it will show the nation how the GOP will turn a blind eye to whatever Trump does but the reality is the average voter attention span is not long enough to remember by November 2020.

Censure is the correct course but the Democrats went the wrong way as usual...

You may be overlooking the "show trial" opportunity that the Republicans can offer. Just imagine that Trump's defense team wants to show that the "deep state" in collusion with the democrats and MSM have been unfair to the Trump presidency from day-1. The witness list could include Schiff, Ciaramella (WB), Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state conspirators as part of the "insurance policy" against Trump.

It could be the photo-negative of the schitt show helping Trump and hurting the democrats.

Kewl, then the Democrats could call all the material witnesses like Mike, Mick and Rudy to testify as to who sent them on their political errand in the Ukraine and how they subverted official policy to achieve The Don's goal.

How about they let the Republicans call just one witness period?

Your commies are having an impeachment where only one side is heard. They picked who they want to talk with, they picked who the public could hear, they are going to impeach President over one side alone being heard, and it's still unfair according to your side because they don't get everybody they want.

In spite of the overwhelming disadvantage, you still want more of an advantage while Republicans get none.

Did the Starr White Water investigation allow Clinton to call witnesses or question any of the witnesses? Nope. Not to worry, your Imperial Majesty will have the same rights as Clinton had.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You are stupidly equating opposition to impeachment with a belief that he is innocent and a sign of support for him. There are other reason to oppose impeachment.

It is a waste of time when you lack the votes in the Senate to convict and remove. Go ahead and make the argument that it will show the nation how the GOP will turn a blind eye to whatever Trump does but the reality is the average voter attention span is not long enough to remember by November 2020.

Censure is the correct course but the Democrats went the wrong way as usual...

You may be overlooking the "show trial" opportunity that the Republicans can offer. Just imagine that Trump's defense team wants to show that the "deep state" in collusion with the democrats and MSM have been unfair to the Trump presidency from day-1. The witness list could include Schiff, Ciaramella (WB), Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state conspirators as part of the "insurance policy" against Trump.

It could be the photo-negative of the schitt show helping Trump and hurting the democrats.

Kewl, then the Democrats could call all the material witnesses like Mike, Mick and Rudy to testify as to who sent them on their political errand in the Ukraine and how they subverted official policy to achieve The Don's goal.

How about they let the Republicans call just one witness period?

Your commies are having an impeachment where only one side is heard. They picked who they want to talk with, they picked who the public could hear, they are going to impeach President over one side alone being heard, and it's still unfair according to your side because they don't get everybody they want.

In spite of the overwhelming disadvantage, you still want more of an advantage while Republicans get none.

Did the Starr White Water investigation allow Clinton to call witnesses or question any of the witnesses? Nope. Not to worry, your Imperial Majesty will have the same rights as Clinton had.

So what witnesses did Clinton team want to call? How can somebody testify Bill didn't get a BJ?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Will She Do It? Insiders Predict Pelosi May Not Go Through With Impeachment After Hearings

Even Pelosi is going wobbly.

 

[busybee01]

Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents

The Socialist Liberty-haters are happy, but normal Americans, especially in swing states, support Trump more now than before the latest Hoax.

Great news for America.

WI Obama-Trump voters give Trump 70% favorability.

The fact is that the Emerson poll is a outlier. First of all it postulates that everyone has made up their mind. That seems very unlikely. Also the last few polls they have done shows essentially the same thing. Worth noting that nearly all of it went into the undecided column. A recent New Hampshire poll shows Biden with a 9 point lead. This is a state that narrowly went for Clinton.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You are stupidly equating opposition to impeachment with a belief that he is innocent and a sign of support for him. There are other reason to oppose impeachment.

It is a waste of time when you lack the votes in the Senate to convict and remove. Go ahead and make the argument that it will show the nation how the GOP will turn a blind eye to whatever Trump does but the reality is the average voter attention span is not long enough to remember by November 2020.

Censure is the correct course but the Democrats went the wrong way as usual...

You may be overlooking the "show trial" opportunity that the Republicans can offer. Just imagine that Trump's defense team wants to show that the "deep state" in collusion with the democrats and MSM have been unfair to the Trump presidency from day-1. The witness list could include Schiff, Ciaramella (WB), Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state conspirators as part of the "insurance policy" against Trump.

It could be the photo-negative of the schitt show helping Trump and hurting the democrats.

Kewl, then the Democrats could call all the material witnesses like Mike, Mick and Rudy to testify as to who sent them on their political errand in the Ukraine and how they subverted official policy to achieve The Don's goal.

How about they let the Republicans call just one witness period?

Your commies are having an impeachment where only one side is heard. They picked who they want to talk with, they picked who the public could hear, they are going to impeach President over one side alone being heard, and it's still unfair according to your side because they don't get everybody they want.

In spite of the overwhelming disadvantage, you still want more of an advantage while Republicans get none.

Did the Starr White Water investigation allow Clinton to call witnesses or question any of the witnesses? Nope. Not to worry, your Imperial Majesty will have the same rights as Clinton had.

Name specifically when the Clintons requested to have witnesses testify and be interviewed by Democrats and cross examined by Republicans.

Your comparison seems to not make sense.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Even Schiff is going wobbly. They might just go for censure and be done with it. Except that Schiff is promising more investigations. At this point Schiff is just wasting money.

 

[Votto]

Polls are fake news. You guys said so.

Yes, but there is only a 30% chance of that.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Will She Do It? Insiders Predict Pelosi May Not Go Through With Impeachment After Hearings

Even Pelosi is going wobbly.

The Daily Wire??

 

[ColonelAngus]

Will She Do It? Insiders Predict Pelosi May Not Go Through With Impeachment After Hearings

Even Pelosi is going wobbly.

The Daily Wire??

List the specific news outlets that you will vouch as being reliable.

 

[BlindBoo]

It is a waste of time when you lack the votes in the Senate to convict and remove. Go ahead and make the argument that it will show the nation how the GOP will turn a blind eye to whatever Trump does but the reality is the average voter attention span is not long enough to remember by November 2020.

Censure is the correct course but the Democrats went the wrong way as usual...

You may be overlooking the "show trial" opportunity that the Republicans can offer. Just imagine that Trump's defense team wants to show that the "deep state" in collusion with the democrats and MSM have been unfair to the Trump presidency from day-1. The witness list could include Schiff, Ciaramella (WB), Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state conspirators as part of the "insurance policy" against Trump.

It could be the photo-negative of the schitt show helping Trump and hurting the democrats.

Kewl, then the Democrats could call all the material witnesses like Mike, Mick and Rudy to testify as to who sent them on their political errand in the Ukraine and how they subverted official policy to achieve The Don's goal.

How about they let the Republicans call just one witness period?

Your commies are having an impeachment where only one side is heard. They picked who they want to talk with, they picked who the public could hear, they are going to impeach President over one side alone being heard, and it's still unfair according to your side because they don't get everybody they want.

In spite of the overwhelming disadvantage, you still want more of an advantage while Republicans get none.

Did the Starr White Water investigation allow Clinton to call witnesses or question any of the witnesses? Nope. Not to worry, your Imperial Majesty will have the same rights as Clinton had.

Name specifically when the Clintons requested to have witnesses testify and be interviewed by Democrats and cross examined by Republicans.

Your comparison seems to not make sense.

The answer is no, they didn't allow it.

When the Republican House was investigating Obama in secret without Democrats present, were democrats allowed to call witnesses in his defense?

Is that part of due process, where the one being investigated can question the investigators?

No only do you guys want to eat the cake but you also don't want anyone else to have cake at all.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You may be overlooking the "show trial" opportunity that the Republicans can offer. Just imagine that Trump's defense team wants to show that the "deep state" in collusion with the democrats and MSM have been unfair to the Trump presidency from day-1. The witness list could include Schiff, Ciaramella (WB), Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state conspirators as part of the "insurance policy" against Trump.

It could be the photo-negative of the schitt show helping Trump and hurting the democrats.

Kewl, then the Democrats could call all the material witnesses like Mike, Mick and Rudy to testify as to who sent them on their political errand in the Ukraine and how they subverted official policy to achieve The Don's goal.

How about they let the Republicans call just one witness period?

Your commies are having an impeachment where only one side is heard. They picked who they want to talk with, they picked who the public could hear, they are going to impeach President over one side alone being heard, and it's still unfair according to your side because they don't get everybody they want.

In spite of the overwhelming disadvantage, you still want more of an advantage while Republicans get none.

Did the Starr White Water investigation allow Clinton to call witnesses or question any of the witnesses? Nope. Not to worry, your Imperial Majesty will have the same rights as Clinton had.

Name specifically when the Clintons requested to have witnesses testify and be interviewed by Democrats and cross examined by Republicans.

Your comparison seems to not make sense.

The answer is no, they didn't allow it.

When the Republican House was investigating Obama in secret without Democrats present, were democrats allowed to call witnesses in his defense?

Is that part of due process, where the one being investigated can question the investigators?

No only do you guys want to eat the cake but you also don't want anyone else to have cake at all.

The REPUBLICANS blocked THE DEMOCRATS from calling witnesses in the Whitewater investigation?

Are you sure about that?

 

[BlindBoo]

Kewl, then the Democrats could call all the material witnesses like Mike, Mick and Rudy to testify as to who sent them on their political errand in the Ukraine and how they subverted official policy to achieve The Don's goal.

How about they let the Republicans call just one witness period?

Your commies are having an impeachment where only one side is heard. They picked who they want to talk with, they picked who the public could hear, they are going to impeach President over one side alone being heard, and it's still unfair according to your side because they don't get everybody they want.

In spite of the overwhelming disadvantage, you still want more of an advantage while Republicans get none.

Did the Starr White Water investigation allow Clinton to call witnesses or question any of the witnesses? Nope. Not to worry, your Imperial Majesty will have the same rights as Clinton had.

Name specifically when the Clintons requested to have witnesses testify and be interviewed by Democrats and cross examined by Republicans.

Your comparison seems to not make sense.

The answer is no, they didn't allow it.

When the Republican House was investigating Obama in secret without Democrats present, were democrats allowed to call witnesses in his defense?

Is that part of due process, where the one being investigated can question the investigators?

No only do you guys want to eat the cake but you also don't want anyone else to have cake at all.

The REPUBLICANS blocked THE DEMOCRATS from calling witnesses in the Whitewater investigation?

Are you sure about that?

During Ken Starr's multiple investigations.

FACT CHECK: Is The Trump Impeachment Process Different From Nixon And Clinton?

House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., has laid out additional details about the minority party's role for his panel.

As Impeachment Inquiry Moves Into Open Phase, Here's What To Expect Next
The president or his attorneys will be allowed to cross-examine witness and subpoena their own, although they'll need a majority vote or the concurrence of the chair to do so. They will also be allowed to attend all hearings of the Judiciary Committee, including any that are closed to the public.

Democrats say that these same rights were given to the minority party with Clinton in the late 1990s and Nixon in the mid-1970s.

 

[Siete]

You may be overlooking the "show trial" opportunity that the Republicans can offer. Just imagine that Trump's defense team wants to show that the "deep state" in collusion with the democrats and MSM have been unfair to the Trump presidency from day-1. The witness list could include Schiff, Ciaramella (WB), Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state conspirators as part of the "insurance policy" against Trump.

It could be the photo-negative of the schitt show helping Trump and hurting the democrats.

Kewl, then the Democrats could call all the material witnesses like Mike, Mick and Rudy to testify as to who sent them on their political errand in the Ukraine and how they subverted official policy to achieve The Don's goal.

How about they let the Republicans call just one witness period?

Your commies are having an impeachment where only one side is heard. They picked who they want to talk with, they picked who the public could hear, they are going to impeach President over one side alone being heard, and it's still unfair according to your side because they don't get everybody they want.

In spite of the overwhelming disadvantage, you still want more of an advantage while Republicans get none.

Did the Starr White Water investigation allow Clinton to call witnesses or question any of the witnesses? Nope. Not to worry, your Imperial Majesty will have the same rights as Clinton had.

Name specifically when the Clintons requested to have witnesses testify and be interviewed by Democrats and cross examined by Republicans.

Your comparison seems to not make sense.

The answer is no, they didn't allow it.

When the Republican House was investigating Obama in secret without Democrats present, were democrats allowed to call witnesses in his defense?

Is that part of due process, where the one being investigated can question the investigators?

No only do you guys want to eat the cake but you also don't want anyone else to have cake at all.

impeachment - no due process

criminal - due process


THE END

 

[Nostra]

Poll finds sharp swing in opposition to impeachment among independents

The Socialist Liberty-haters are happy, but normal Americans, especially in swing states, support Trump more now than before the latest Hoax.

Great news for America.

WI Obama-Trump voters give Trump 70% favorability.

You are stupidly equating opposition to impeachment with a belief that he is innocent and a sign of support for him. There are other reason to oppose impeachment.

It is a waste of time when you lack the votes in the Senate to convict and remove. Go ahead and make the argument that it will show the nation how the GOP will turn a blind eye to whatever Trump does but the reality is the average voter attention span is not long enough to remember by November 2020.

Censure is the correct course but the Democrats went the wrong way as usual...

You may be overlooking the "show trial" opportunity that the Republicans can offer. Just imagine that Trump's defense team wants to show that the "deep state" in collusion with the democrats and MSM have been unfair to the Trump presidency from day-1. The witness list could include Schiff, Ciaramella (WB), Chalupa, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, Strzok, Page, the Ohrs, Rosenstein, and the rest of the deep state conspirators as part of the "insurance policy" against Trump.

It could be the photo-negative of the schitt show helping Trump and hurting the democrats.

Kewl, then the Democrats could call all the material witnesses like Mike, Mick and Rudy to testify as to who sent them on their political errand in the Ukraine and how they subverted official policy to achieve The Don's goal.

They don't get to call witnesses in the Senate. Republicans make the rules there.

Turnabout and stuff......

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How about they let the Republicans call just one witness period?

Your commies are having an impeachment where only one side is heard. They picked who they want to talk with, they picked who the public could hear, they are going to impeach President over one side alone being heard, and it's still unfair according to your side because they don't get everybody they want.

In spite of the overwhelming disadvantage, you still want more of an advantage while Republicans get none.

Did the Starr White Water investigation allow Clinton to call witnesses or question any of the witnesses? Nope. Not to worry, your Imperial Majesty will have the same rights as Clinton had.

Name specifically when the Clintons requested to have witnesses testify and be interviewed by Democrats and cross examined by Republicans.

Your comparison seems to not make sense.

The answer is no, they didn't allow it.

When the Republican House was investigating Obama in secret without Democrats present, were democrats allowed to call witnesses in his defense?

Is that part of due process, where the one being investigated can question the investigators?

No only do you guys want to eat the cake but you also don't want anyone else to have cake at all.

The REPUBLICANS blocked THE DEMOCRATS from calling witnesses in the Whitewater investigation?

Are you sure about that?

During Ken Starr's multiple investigations.

FACT CHECK: Is The Trump Impeachment Process Different From Nixon And Clinton?

House Judiciary Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., has laid out additional details about the minority party's role for his panel.

As Impeachment Inquiry Moves Into Open Phase, Here's What To Expect Next
The president or his attorneys will be allowed to cross-examine witness and subpoena their own, although they'll need a majority vote or the concurrence of the chair to do so. They will also be allowed to attend all hearings of the Judiciary Committee, including any that are closed to the public.

Democrats say that these same rights were given to the minority party with Clinton in the late 1990s and Nixon in the mid-1970s.

What the article stated is that Republicans were allowed to call in witnesses, provided that Schiff approved of it. Obviously he didn't because we didn't see any witnesses brought forth by Republicans.

I didn't see anything that said Democrats wanted to bring in witnesses, but were forbidden.