You Don't Have to Be a Bigot to Be Called a Racist Anymore

[Taz]

In my 50 years of life as an African American, America has evolved from the more of the former to more of the latter.

Unless you were born in Africa or migrated here, you have more in common with a white American in Jackson, Wyoming than you do with a black man who came here two years out of Africa. And with the growing population of actual Africans coming to America, black Americans can't keep rolling with that gig about being African American. It's laughable. You folks might be able to get away with that horse pucky if we were living a hundred and fifty years ago when black people had parents who were born into slavery and had grandparents who actually spoke African. But that's not the case. We live in a time much later now.

Now. To your point about economics. You're right, but your right for the wrong reasons. The American monetary policy is one that functions by way of central economic planning by a central bank. All of that freshly printed money goes to the 1 percenters first, and they're the ones who get to put it into the economy the way they want. These are most often special interests and lobbyists, corporations, etc. And, yes, the middle class and poor get hit with the inflation tax to pay the interest on the debt. Wages become stagnant for the middle class, as we've seen, and the rich get richer, but it affects blacks and whites, not just blacks. What we see happening in Chicago and similar places, is you get gangland style sub-cultures that evolve which is just another symptom of the economic problem.

Well....here is the thing. You are not the arbiter and hence have no standing in telling me who I have more in common with. Just as an FYI....the best friends I have made in the last 20 years have been......wait for it....native born Africans. We have PLENTY in common and the most common thing we share, besides skin color and other phenotype characteristics, is that we have all been impacted by the doctrine of white supremacy. I have in fact been to Africa. Yes....culturally we are a lot different, but the gap between us culturally is shrinking as unfortunately the world is being westernized culturally....meaning the culture of the West, and in particular America, is spreading among the young world wide....the music, the style of dress, beliefs, etc. To tell you the truth.....you make no sense to me. In my life there is little truth to what you say.

Why “unfortunately”?

Stop being such a bigot, you failed tranny.

 

[Unkotare]

In my 50 years of life as an African American, America has evolved from the more of the former to more of the latter.

Unless you were born in Africa or migrated here, you have more in common with a white American in Jackson, Wyoming than you do with a black man who came here two years out of Africa. And with the growing population of actual Africans coming to America, black Americans can't keep rolling with that gig about being African American. It's laughable. You folks might be able to get away with that horse pucky if we were living a hundred and fifty years ago when black people had parents who were born into slavery and had grandparents who actually spoke African. But that's not the case. We live in a time much later now.

Now. To your point about economics. You're right, but your right for the wrong reasons. The American monetary policy is one that functions by way of central economic planning by a central bank. All of that freshly printed money goes to the 1 percenters first, and they're the ones who get to put it into the economy the way they want. These are most often special interests and lobbyists, corporations, etc. And, yes, the middle class and poor get hit with the inflation tax to pay the interest on the debt. Wages become stagnant for the middle class, as we've seen, and the rich get richer, but it affects blacks and whites, not just blacks. What we see happening in Chicago and similar places, is you get gangland style sub-cultures that evolve which is just another symptom of the economic problem.

Well....here is the thing. You are not the arbiter and hence have no standing in telling me who I have more in common with. Just as an FYI....the best friends I have made in the last 20 years have been......wait for it....native born Africans. We have PLENTY in common and the most common thing we share, besides skin color and other phenotype characteristics, is that we have all been impacted by the doctrine of white supremacy. I have in fact been to Africa. Yes....culturally we are a lot different, but the gap between us culturally is shrinking as unfortunately the world is being westernized culturally....meaning the culture of the West, and in particular America, is spreading among the young world wide....the music, the style of dress, beliefs, etc. To tell you the truth.....you make no sense to me. In my life there is little truth to what you say.

Why “unfortunately”?

Stop being such a bigot...

What do you mean?

 

[Natural Citizen]

Well....here is the thing. You are not the arbiter and hence have no standing in telling me who I have more in common with. Just as an FYI....the best friends I have made in the last 20 years have been......wait for it....native born Africans. We have PLENTY in common and the most common thing we share, besides skin color and other phenotype characteristics, is that we have all been impacted by the doctrine of white supremacy. I have in fact been to Africa. Yes....culturally we are a lot different, but the gap between us culturally is shrinking as unfortunately the world is being westernized culturally....meaning the culture of the West, and in particular America, is spreading among the young world wide....the music, the style of dress, beliefs, etc. To tell you the truth.....you make no sense to me. In my life there is little truth to what you say.

Mimicking culture, and having African friends does not make one African. No matter how one slices it, their still just a black American. Thanks, though, you helped me to prove the previous point I made about the nonsensical confusion that many black Americans have when they call themselves African American.

I actually agree with you with regard to your distaste for the rest of the world becoming westernized. I complain about it all the time. And in far, far, more ways than just culture. In fact, I've been known to work within the political process in opposition to it.

 

[Unkotare]

Well....here is the thing. You are not the arbiter and hence have no standing in telling me who I have more in common with. Just as an FYI....the best friends I have made in the last 20 years have been......wait for it....native born Africans. We have PLENTY in common and the most common thing we share, besides skin color and other phenotype characteristics, is that we have all been impacted by the doctrine of white supremacy. I have in fact been to Africa. Yes....culturally we are a lot different, but the gap between us culturally is shrinking as unfortunately the world is being westernized culturally....meaning the culture of the West, and in particular America, is spreading among the young world wide....the music, the style of dress, beliefs, etc. To tell you the truth.....you make no sense to me. In my life there is little truth to what you say.

Mimicking culture, and having African friends does not make one African. No matter how one slices it, their still just a black American. Thanks, though, you helped me to prove the previous point I made about the nonsensical confusion that many black Americans have when they call themselves African American.

I actually agree with you with regard to your distaste for the rest of the world becoming westernized. I complain about it all the time. And in far, far, more ways than just culture. In fact, I've been known to work within the political process in opposition to it.

You’re opposed to western culture?

 

[Natural Citizen]

You’re opposed to western culture?

I oppose western interventionism as a whole. Thats' a rather deep discussion.

As far as western culture, itself, it's in a state of moral decay. TRhat. too, a deep discussion, a far deeper than the capacity your one-liner seems to want to solicit.

 

[AKIP]

Well....here is the thing. You are not the arbiter and hence have no standing in telling me who I have more in common with. Just as an FYI....the best friends I have made in the last 20 years have been......wait for it....native born Africans. We have PLENTY in common and the most common thing we share, besides skin color and other phenotype characteristics, is that we have all been impacted by the doctrine of white supremacy. I have in fact been to Africa. Yes....culturally we are a lot different, but the gap between us culturally is shrinking as unfortunately the world is being westernized culturally....meaning the culture of the West, and in particular America, is spreading among the young world wide....the music, the style of dress, beliefs, etc. To tell you the truth.....you make no sense to me. In my life there is little truth to what you say.

Mimicking culture, and having African friends does not make one African. No matter how one slices it, their still just a black American. Thanks, though, you helped me to prove the previous point I made about the nonsensical confusion that many black Americans have when they call themselves African American.

I actually agree with you with regard to your distaste for the rest of the world becoming westernized. I complain about it all the time. And in far, far, more ways than just culture. In fact, I've been known to work within the political process in opposition to it.

Come on my friend. Look.....its more of a misnomer to refer to us as "black" Americans, since our skin is not actually black. Yet, you don't see the hypocrisy in arguing that we are not "African" Americans because we were not born in Africa.

I consider myself African because my body is designed to survive on the African continent.

 

[AKIP]

Well....here is the thing. You are not the arbiter and hence have no standing in telling me who I have more in common with. Just as an FYI....the best friends I have made in the last 20 years have been......wait for it....native born Africans. We have PLENTY in common and the most common thing we share, besides skin color and other phenotype characteristics, is that we have all been impacted by the doctrine of white supremacy. I have in fact been to Africa. Yes....culturally we are a lot different, but the gap between us culturally is shrinking as unfortunately the world is being westernized culturally....meaning the culture of the West, and in particular America, is spreading among the young world wide....the music, the style of dress, beliefs, etc. To tell you the truth.....you make no sense to me. In my life there is little truth to what you say.

Mimicking culture, and having African friends does not make one African. No matter how one slices it, their still just a black American. Thanks, though, you helped me to prove the previous point I made about the nonsensical confusion that many black Americans have when they call themselves African American.

I actually agree with you with regard to your distaste for the rest of the world becoming westernized. I complain about it all the time. And in far, far, more ways than just culture. In fact, I've been known to work within the political process in opposition to it.

You’re opposed to western culture?

It's a double edged sword. It really debases a people morally.

 

[Unkotare]

Well....here is the thing. You are not the arbiter and hence have no standing in telling me who I have more in common with. Just as an FYI....the best friends I have made in the last 20 years have been......wait for it....native born Africans. We have PLENTY in common and the most common thing we share, besides skin color and other phenotype characteristics, is that we have all been impacted by the doctrine of white supremacy. I have in fact been to Africa. Yes....culturally we are a lot different, but the gap between us culturally is shrinking as unfortunately the world is being westernized culturally....meaning the culture of the West, and in particular America, is spreading among the young world wide....the music, the style of dress, beliefs, etc. To tell you the truth.....you make no sense to me. In my life there is little truth to what you say.

Mimicking culture, and having African friends does not make one African. No matter how one slices it, their still just a black American. Thanks, though, you helped me to prove the previous point I made about the nonsensical confusion that many black Americans have when they call themselves African American.

I actually agree with you with regard to your distaste for the rest of the world becoming westernized. I complain about it all the time. And in far, far, more ways than just culture. In fact, I've been known to work within the political process in opposition to it.

You’re opposed to western culture?

It's a double edged sword. It really debases a people morally.

How so?

 

[DOTR]

What is a racist? There was a time when the answer to that question was pretty clear-cut. A racist was someone who joined a group like the Ku Klux Klan, spewed racial slurs, or supported segregation. A racist was someone who thought that people of other races were inherently inferior.
In the last decade or so, that's changed. In a time of expanding definitions, you don't have to be a bigot to be a racist anymore. You just have to have the wrong politics to be branded a racist, or race-baiter or race warrior.
Or you can just be associated with someone who has the wrong politics.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has listed David Horowitz, 79, a former 1960s radical turned conservative, as an extremist and "driving force" in the "anti-black" movement.
On Monday, The Washington Post ran a front-page story that reported that Ron DeSantis, the GOP candidate for governor in Florida, "spoke at racially-charged events" - that is, he spoke at four conferences put on by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
What makes Horowitz anti-black? He is "a vocal opponent of reparations for slavery," the Southern Poverty Law Center wrote.
He also makes provocative statements. Like this one: "Unfortunately, as a nation we have become so trapped in the melodrama of black victimization and white oppression that we are in danger of losing all sense of proportion. If blacks are oppressed in America, why isn't there a black exodus?"
Horowitz's tone can be insensitive. I think he's dead wrong to dismiss black grievances as melodramatic and I believe he overstates white grievances. He has written things that make me cringe, but I've known him for years and he is no white supremacist. In fact, Horowitz was collaborating with the Black Panthers on a learning center in 1974, when a colleague was murdered; he blamed the group for her death and began to move away from the left.
Once the SPLC labeled Horowitz as an extremist, he was supposed to become so radioactive that others would associate with him at their own peril. As DeSantis learned. According to The Washington Post, you see, DeSantis not only spoke at Horowitz events, he also "recently was accused of using racially tinged language."
After he won the GOP primary, DeSantis called his African-American Democratic opponent, Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum "articulate." The Republican also told Fox News that the last thing Floridians need is "to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda."
"Monkey," critics argued, is a racist dog whistle.
"Articulate" is racist because it can be condescending -- as Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., learned in 2007 after he praised colleague Barack Obama as the "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Biden apologized. Obama later picked Biden to be his running mate in 2008.
DeSantis said his "monkey" remark had nothing to do with race. Without proof, one would expect DeSantis to enjoy the benefit of the doubt. Instead he got a front-page story that implied he's a race-baiter because he spoke at conservative confabs.
Mark Krikorian is executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a pro-enforcement group branded a "hate group" by the SPLC. He sees the SPLC as a left-wing political organization now dedicated to marginalizing ideas that used to be mainstream.
Politicians like former President Bill Clinton, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and the late Rep. Barbara Jordan, D-Texas, used to support enforcing immigration laws. Today, Krikorian said, their positions would be "branded as hate speech" by the SPLC.
The SPLC also charged Horowitz with hating Muslims because of his harsh criticism of radical Islamic terrorism and Palestinian groups opposed to Israel.
As a proof, the SPLC includes this statement, which really is a political argument: "The difference between Islamic fanatics, or Jew haters, and Hitler is that Hitler hid the Final Solution, and the Iranians and Hezbollah shout it from the rooftops. And the whole Muslim world accepts it."
And here's how you know the SPLC's labeling is highly partisan. In 2016, Richard Cohen, the group's president, wrote a piece titled, "Black Lives Matter is not a hate group."
"There's no doubt that some protesters who claim the mantle of Black Lives Matter have said offensive things, like the chant, 'pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon' that was heard at one rally," Cohen wrote. "But before we condemn the entire movement for the words of a few, we should ask ourselves whether we would also condemn the entire Republican Party for the racist words of its presumptive nominee -- or for the racist rhetoric of many other politicians in the party over the course of years."
No, the SPLC would never condemn the entire GOP as racist because of Donald Trump. Better to cook the frog slowly. Start by isolating David Horowitz. Then let the r-word hang over anyone who associates with him. And then see where that goes.

You Don't Have to Be a Bigot to Be Called a Racist Anymore — RealClearPolitics

The definition of racism has not changed. It has not expanded. It's still the same. What has changed is how racism is expressed. It is not socially acceptable to be a KKK member, so we have white supremacist groups using names like Christian identity, Army of God, etc. Citizens groups. Patriot groups. Militias. Anti govrnmnt, Anti Tax groups, etc. And the way racism is communicated has changed. You can no longer just straight out make racist comments and be deemed acceptable. So what we see is called modern racism.

Wanting lower taxes is Racist!

 

[Natural Citizen]

I consider myself African because my body is designed to survive on the African continent.

lol. Okay. Stand out in the middle of the brush on the continent of Africa with just your reeboks and a stick and see how for ya make it.

Good luck. If you're lucky, maybe a real African will pass by and save you. From what I was seeing in your vids in your other thread, though, they just walk right up to your door and rob you. There's no 911 in Africa. That's why they do it. Matter of fact, they'll probly take your reeboks and you'll be left with just a stick. Then what? You'll be tippy toeing through the brush like a mofo when that lion starts chasing your butt. lolol. You might consider your body to be built for the continent, but guaranteed your mind is trained to the Wendy's and the Burger King and the Walmart down the corner. Or some other such similar 'hunting.' lol.

You're Amercan. But if you wanna pretend you're African, go right ahead. I don't care anough about it to keep trading keystrokes with you. They're your feels, go right ahead feeling.

By the way, there are 54 states on the continent of Africa. Which one are you from? Or which one do you 'consider' yourself from, I should ask.

 

[Unkotare]

Well....here is the thing. You are not the arbiter and hence have no standing in telling me who I have more in common with. Just as an FYI....the best friends I have made in the last 20 years have been......wait for it....native born Africans. We have PLENTY in common and the most common thing we share, besides skin color and other phenotype characteristics, is that we have all been impacted by the doctrine of white supremacy. I have in fact been to Africa. Yes....culturally we are a lot different, but the gap between us culturally is shrinking as unfortunately the world is being westernized culturally....meaning the culture of the West, and in particular America, is spreading among the young world wide....the music, the style of dress, beliefs, etc. To tell you the truth.....you make no sense to me. In my life there is little truth to what you say.

Mimicking culture, and having African friends does not make one African. No matter how one slices it, their still just a black American. Thanks, though, you helped me to prove the previous point I made about the nonsensical confusion that many black Americans have when they call themselves African American.

I actually agree with you with regard to your distaste for the rest of the world becoming westernized. I complain about it all the time. And in far, far, more ways than just culture. In fact, I've been known to work within the political process in opposition to it.

Come on my friend. Look.....its more of a misnomer to refer to us as "black" Americans, since our skin is not actually black. Yet, you don't see the hypocrisy in arguing that we are not "African" Americans because we were not born in Africa.

I consider myself African because my body is designed to survive on the African continent.

Really?

 

[IM2]

What is a racist? There was a time when the answer to that question was pretty clear-cut. A racist was someone who joined a group like the Ku Klux Klan, spewed racial slurs, or supported segregation. A racist was someone who thought that people of other races were inherently inferior.
In the last decade or so, that's changed. In a time of expanding definitions, you don't have to be a bigot to be a racist anymore. You just have to have the wrong politics to be branded a racist, or race-baiter or race warrior.
Or you can just be associated with someone who has the wrong politics.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has listed David Horowitz, 79, a former 1960s radical turned conservative, as an extremist and "driving force" in the "anti-black" movement.
On Monday, The Washington Post ran a front-page story that reported that Ron DeSantis, the GOP candidate for governor in Florida, "spoke at racially-charged events" - that is, he spoke at four conferences put on by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
What makes Horowitz anti-black? He is "a vocal opponent of reparations for slavery," the Southern Poverty Law Center wrote.
He also makes provocative statements. Like this one: "Unfortunately, as a nation we have become so trapped in the melodrama of black victimization and white oppression that we are in danger of losing all sense of proportion. If blacks are oppressed in America, why isn't there a black exodus?"
Horowitz's tone can be insensitive. I think he's dead wrong to dismiss black grievances as melodramatic and I believe he overstates white grievances. He has written things that make me cringe, but I've known him for years and he is no white supremacist. In fact, Horowitz was collaborating with the Black Panthers on a learning center in 1974, when a colleague was murdered; he blamed the group for her death and began to move away from the left.
Once the SPLC labeled Horowitz as an extremist, he was supposed to become so radioactive that others would associate with him at their own peril. As DeSantis learned. According to The Washington Post, you see, DeSantis not only spoke at Horowitz events, he also "recently was accused of using racially tinged language."
After he won the GOP primary, DeSantis called his African-American Democratic opponent, Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum "articulate." The Republican also told Fox News that the last thing Floridians need is "to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda."
"Monkey," critics argued, is a racist dog whistle.
"Articulate" is racist because it can be condescending -- as Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., learned in 2007 after he praised colleague Barack Obama as the "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Biden apologized. Obama later picked Biden to be his running mate in 2008.
DeSantis said his "monkey" remark had nothing to do with race. Without proof, one would expect DeSantis to enjoy the benefit of the doubt. Instead he got a front-page story that implied he's a race-baiter because he spoke at conservative confabs.
Mark Krikorian is executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a pro-enforcement group branded a "hate group" by the SPLC. He sees the SPLC as a left-wing political organization now dedicated to marginalizing ideas that used to be mainstream.
Politicians like former President Bill Clinton, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and the late Rep. Barbara Jordan, D-Texas, used to support enforcing immigration laws. Today, Krikorian said, their positions would be "branded as hate speech" by the SPLC.
The SPLC also charged Horowitz with hating Muslims because of his harsh criticism of radical Islamic terrorism and Palestinian groups opposed to Israel.
As a proof, the SPLC includes this statement, which really is a political argument: "The difference between Islamic fanatics, or Jew haters, and Hitler is that Hitler hid the Final Solution, and the Iranians and Hezbollah shout it from the rooftops. And the whole Muslim world accepts it."
And here's how you know the SPLC's labeling is highly partisan. In 2016, Richard Cohen, the group's president, wrote a piece titled, "Black Lives Matter is not a hate group."
"There's no doubt that some protesters who claim the mantle of Black Lives Matter have said offensive things, like the chant, 'pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon' that was heard at one rally," Cohen wrote. "But before we condemn the entire movement for the words of a few, we should ask ourselves whether we would also condemn the entire Republican Party for the racist words of its presumptive nominee -- or for the racist rhetoric of many other politicians in the party over the course of years."
No, the SPLC would never condemn the entire GOP as racist because of Donald Trump. Better to cook the frog slowly. Start by isolating David Horowitz. Then let the r-word hang over anyone who associates with him. And then see where that goes.

You Don't Have to Be a Bigot to Be Called a Racist Anymore — RealClearPolitics

The definition of racism has not changed. It has not expanded. It's still the same. What has changed is how racism is expressed. It is not socially acceptable to be a KKK member, so we have white supremacist groups using names like Christian identity, Army of God, etc. Citizens groups. Patriot groups. Militias. Anti govrnmnt, Anti Tax groups, etc. And the way racism is communicated has changed. You can no longer just straight out make racist comments and be deemed acceptable. So what we see is called modern racism.

Wanting lower taxes is Racist!

Wanting to lower taxes is not racist but disguising yourself as an anti tax group to oppose civil rights or equal opportunity policies is.

 

[DOTR]

What is a racist? There was a time when the answer to that question was pretty clear-cut. A racist was someone who joined a group like the Ku Klux Klan, spewed racial slurs, or supported segregation. A racist was someone who thought that people of other races were inherently inferior.
In the last decade or so, that's changed. In a time of expanding definitions, you don't have to be a bigot to be a racist anymore. You just have to have the wrong politics to be branded a racist, or race-baiter or race warrior.
Or you can just be associated with someone who has the wrong politics.
The Southern Poverty Law Center has listed David Horowitz, 79, a former 1960s radical turned conservative, as an extremist and "driving force" in the "anti-black" movement.
On Monday, The Washington Post ran a front-page story that reported that Ron DeSantis, the GOP candidate for governor in Florida, "spoke at racially-charged events" - that is, he spoke at four conferences put on by the David Horowitz Freedom Center.
What makes Horowitz anti-black? He is "a vocal opponent of reparations for slavery," the Southern Poverty Law Center wrote.
He also makes provocative statements. Like this one: "Unfortunately, as a nation we have become so trapped in the melodrama of black victimization and white oppression that we are in danger of losing all sense of proportion. If blacks are oppressed in America, why isn't there a black exodus?"
Horowitz's tone can be insensitive. I think he's dead wrong to dismiss black grievances as melodramatic and I believe he overstates white grievances. He has written things that make me cringe, but I've known him for years and he is no white supremacist. In fact, Horowitz was collaborating with the Black Panthers on a learning center in 1974, when a colleague was murdered; he blamed the group for her death and began to move away from the left.
Once the SPLC labeled Horowitz as an extremist, he was supposed to become so radioactive that others would associate with him at their own peril. As DeSantis learned. According to The Washington Post, you see, DeSantis not only spoke at Horowitz events, he also "recently was accused of using racially tinged language."
After he won the GOP primary, DeSantis called his African-American Democratic opponent, Tallahassee Mayor Andrew Gillum "articulate." The Republican also told Fox News that the last thing Floridians need is "to monkey this up by trying to embrace a socialist agenda."
"Monkey," critics argued, is a racist dog whistle.
"Articulate" is racist because it can be condescending -- as Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., learned in 2007 after he praised colleague Barack Obama as the "first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy." Biden apologized. Obama later picked Biden to be his running mate in 2008.
DeSantis said his "monkey" remark had nothing to do with race. Without proof, one would expect DeSantis to enjoy the benefit of the doubt. Instead he got a front-page story that implied he's a race-baiter because he spoke at conservative confabs.
Mark Krikorian is executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a pro-enforcement group branded a "hate group" by the SPLC. He sees the SPLC as a left-wing political organization now dedicated to marginalizing ideas that used to be mainstream.
Politicians like former President Bill Clinton, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and the late Rep. Barbara Jordan, D-Texas, used to support enforcing immigration laws. Today, Krikorian said, their positions would be "branded as hate speech" by the SPLC.
The SPLC also charged Horowitz with hating Muslims because of his harsh criticism of radical Islamic terrorism and Palestinian groups opposed to Israel.
As a proof, the SPLC includes this statement, which really is a political argument: "The difference between Islamic fanatics, or Jew haters, and Hitler is that Hitler hid the Final Solution, and the Iranians and Hezbollah shout it from the rooftops. And the whole Muslim world accepts it."
And here's how you know the SPLC's labeling is highly partisan. In 2016, Richard Cohen, the group's president, wrote a piece titled, "Black Lives Matter is not a hate group."
"There's no doubt that some protesters who claim the mantle of Black Lives Matter have said offensive things, like the chant, 'pigs in a blanket, fry 'em like bacon' that was heard at one rally," Cohen wrote. "But before we condemn the entire movement for the words of a few, we should ask ourselves whether we would also condemn the entire Republican Party for the racist words of its presumptive nominee -- or for the racist rhetoric of many other politicians in the party over the course of years."
No, the SPLC would never condemn the entire GOP as racist because of Donald Trump. Better to cook the frog slowly. Start by isolating David Horowitz. Then let the r-word hang over anyone who associates with him. And then see where that goes.

You Don't Have to Be a Bigot to Be Called a Racist Anymore — RealClearPolitics

The definition of racism has not changed. It has not expanded. It's still the same. What has changed is how racism is expressed. It is not socially acceptable to be a KKK member, so we have white supremacist groups using names like Christian identity, Army of God, etc. Citizens groups. Patriot groups. Militias. Anti govrnmnt, Anti Tax groups, etc. And the way racism is communicated has changed. You can no longer just straight out make racist comments and be deemed acceptable. So what we see is called modern racism.

Wanting lower taxes is Racist!

Wanting to lower taxes is not racist but disguising yourself as an anti tax group to oppose civil rights or equal opportunity policies is.

Sorry but your post was garbled. By equal opportunity you meant affirmative action right?

 

[AKIP]

I consider myself African because my body is designed to survive on the African continent.

lol. Okay. Stand out in the middle of the brush on the continent of Africa with just your reeboks and a stick and see how for ya make it.

Good luck. If you're lucky, maybe a real African will pass by and save you. You might consider your body to be built for the continent, but guaranteed your mind is trained to the Wendy's and the Burger King. down the corner.Or some other such similar hunting. lol.

You're Amercan. But if you wanna pretend youre African, go right ahead.

By the way, there are 54 states in Africa. Which one are you from?

Why did you ignore the hypocrisy of you referring to us as black Americans when we are not actually "black"? Did that not make you lol....it certainly made me lol....just saying.

I live around many Africans in my city. My daughter is constantly assumed, by the other African kids in her high school.....to be African. The kids who are making the assumption are the children of African immigrants, but they themselves were born in the US. Thus, when they ask my daughter where is she from and she tells them the United States.....they are like "no.....where are you REALLY from....where were your parents from". In other words, kids born in the US of African parents who were born in Africa, think my daughter is just like them.

Its just like some American cars used to have foreign engines. Because the car was assembled in the US....is it really an "American car" if the engine was manufactured in Japan? I am an African with the culture of an American. Not a "black" with the culture of an American. There is nothing "black" about me except for my hair.

 

[Natural Citizen]

It really debases a people morally.

That's true. I agree with that.

 

[Natural Citizen]

I consider myself African because my body is designed to survive on the African continent.

lol. Okay. Stand out in the middle of the brush on the continent of Africa with just your reeboks and a stick and see how for ya make it.

Good luck. If you're lucky, maybe a real African will pass by and save you. You might consider your body to be built for the continent, but guaranteed your mind is trained to the Wendy's and the Burger King. down the corner.Or some other such similar hunting. lol.

You're Amercan. But if you wanna pretend youre African, go right ahead.

By the way, there are 54 states in Africa. Which one are you from?

Why did you ignore the hypocrisy of you referring to us as black Americans when we are not actually "black"? Did that not make you lol....it certainly made me lol....just saying.

I live around many Africans in my city. My daughter is constantly assumed, by the other African kids in her high school.....to be African. The kids who are making the assumption are the children of African immigrants, but they themselves were born in the US. Thus, when they ask my daughter where is she from and she tells them the United States.....they are like "no.....where are you REALLY from....where were your parents from". In other words, kids born in the US of African parents who were born in Africa, think my daughter is just like them.

Its just like some American cars used to have foreign engines. Because the car was assembled in the US....is it really an "American car" if the engine was manufactured in Japan? I am an African with the culture of an American. Not a "black" with the culture of an American. There is nothing "black" about me except for my hair.

Ah, well. Whuheva. You're talking about cultural adaptation and personal relationships. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about somehting else entirely.

I'm kind of tired of the thread, anyway.

I do appreciate the lively debate, civil, though. It's a nice change of pace down here.

Enjoy your day.

 

[AKIP]

I consider myself African because my body is designed to survive on the African continent.

lol. Okay. Stand out in the middle of the brush on the continent of Africa with just your reeboks and a stick and see how for ya make it.

Good luck. If you're lucky, maybe a real African will pass by and save you. You might consider your body to be built for the continent, but guaranteed your mind is trained to the Wendy's and the Burger King. down the corner.Or some other such similar hunting. lol.

You're Amercan. But if you wanna pretend youre African, go right ahead.

By the way, there are 54 states in Africa. Which one are you from?

Why did you ignore the hypocrisy of you referring to us as black Americans when we are not actually "black"? Did that not make you lol....it certainly made me lol....just saying.

I live around many Africans in my city. My daughter is constantly assumed, by the other African kids in her high school.....to be African. The kids who are making the assumption are the children of African immigrants, but they themselves were born in the US. Thus, when they ask my daughter where is she from and she tells them the United States.....they are like "no.....where are you REALLY from....where were your parents from". In other words, kids born in the US of African parents who were born in Africa, think my daughter is just like them.

Its just like some American cars used to have foreign engines. Because the car was assembled in the US....is it really an "American car" if the engine was manufactured in Japan? I am an African with the culture of an American. Not a "black" with the culture of an American. There is nothing "black" about me except for my hair.

Ah, well. Whuheva. Youre talking about cultural adaptation and personal relationships. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about somehting else entirely.

I'm kind of tired of the thread, anyway.

I do appreciate the lively debate, civil, though. It's a nice change of pace down here.

Enjoy your day.

Of course....when one is confronted with their own hypocrisy...they are forced to acquiesce or....run and hide.

You can see me however you choose. It does not change the fact that biologically, my body was designed....BY AFRICA. It was the only place on earth that made this particular model. Any place you see the design around this earth.....it was surely imported from Africa to those lands. I am an African seed planted in American soil....take it or leave it.....its what I am.

FYI....many Africans in Africa cannot survive in the naked in the Middle of the bush. Do you think that how most Africans live? There are many urban Africans who could not survive any better than would I in the Bush.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Why did you ignore the hypocrisy of you referring to us as black Americans when we are not actually "black"? Did that not make you lol....it certainly made me lol....just saying.

Oh, sorry, I forgot to answer this part.

It's largely because most down here in this section refer to themselves as blacks. As well as refer to others as whites.

It goes back to wha tI was saying earlier in the thread. Modern liberalism has encouraged Americans to adopt a group mentality, whereas individuals are always seen as members of groups rather than as Individuals. It's colectivist.

It's why its so important for libertarians and conservatives to be aware of that, else we, too, catch ourselves falling into that trap.

Good point,m thouhg. I'll reword my dialogue in the future, to be a little more precise in what;s on the tip of my tongue.

 

[Natural Citizen]

..run and hide.

Heh heh. Of course.

 

[AKIP]

Why did you ignore the hypocrisy of you referring to us as black Americans when we are not actually "black"? Did that not make you lol....it certainly made me lol....just saying.

Oh, sorry, I forgot to answer this part.

It's largely because most down here in this section refer to themselves as blacks. As well as refer to others as whites.

It goes back to wha tI was saying earlier in the thread. Modern liberalism has encouraged Americans to adopt a group mentality, whereas individuals are always seen as members of groups rather than as Individuals. It's colectivist.

It's why its so important for libertarians and conservatives to be aware of that, else we, too, catch ourselves falling into that trap.

Good point,m thouhg. I'll reword my dialogue in the future, to be a little more precise in what;s on the tip of my tongue.

If you consider yourself an "American" that is technically a group mentality and separatist view. Now, if you just see yourself as HUMAN, without qualification, then you could throw stones, but as it stands now, the argument you have been making renders you in a glass house and you know the saying about glass houses and throwing stones....don't you? I mean, you seeing people as conservative and liberals is creating a label and a distinction with a perceived difference. If you are just an "American" then why create the distinction with a difference between people as conservative vs liberal?

That having been said, your reasoning of simply following the crowd, because that is what every called themselves on this forum, makes no sense either, if one is principled.