You Anti-Colectiv Bargainin People Unleashin Forces Yu Won’t Like!

[JimofPennsylvan]

You Anti-Collective Bargaining people with your agenda begun with your legislative initiatives in Wisconsin and Ohio are opening a Pandora’s box with the “anger” you will be unleashing among public workers and their families when the results of your efforts begun to be really felt by these individuals, it is guaranteed you won’t like the results! The one major issue that surprisingly does not seem to be resolved on this whole subject is that the “collective bargaining right” is a natural, fundamental right. They are just like the right to free speech, the right to have a say in who governs you (vote)! This phony debate that the “collective bargaining” right is a privilege not a right is without merit. A privilege is a permission to drive a car or a permission to hunt with a gun, the “collective bargaining” right is not permission like these it is a much more serious permission. A right, like free speech, right to vote, privacy rights, etc. is a permission or a protection that is not only important but integral to living (that is human life). The right of “collective bargaining” is integral to human life, because it is integral to a person’s job (who works under a collective bargaining agreement) and a job is essential to human life it enables a person to buy food, clothing, shelter, medical care, etc.. A collective bargaining right is integral to a person’s job (who has a collective bargaining agreement) because it is integral in determining wages, benefits, working conditions and conditions of termination and due to the nature of the management/worker relationship it is necessary to allow the worker to have such permission to join with his or her coworker to obtain fair terms on these listed aspects of a job – remember unless you have a collective-bargaining agreement essentially management has all the power they can set the wages, benefits, working conditions, terms of termination as “they so chose”. A worker is either a worker under a “contract for a term” or an “at will” employee and most workers that don’t work under a “collective bargaining” agreement are “at will” employees which means they practically have no power there is a huge imbalance of power in favor of management in these relationships and the right of “collective bargaining” gives the worker a fair chance to get fair terms of employment and it is the only reality that exists that can give a worker that fair chance!

If the right wing of the Republican Party keeps up with their agenda here to take away workers right to “collective bargain” they are going to cause a backlash in America which will result in the American people amending the constitution to expressly provide such a right in the constitution. This right is so important to enough working Americans that it will surely happen and in the process Republican candidates will lose many elections over the matter!

The individual politicians behind these legislative initiatives taking away “collective bargaining” rights aren’t thinking to clearly. The clever designs of these legislative bills in Wisconsin and Ohio will offer no protection to these politicians, these bills are taking away public workers right to “collectively bargain” that is the bottom line. Governor Scott Walker and Governor John Kasich will be forever linked with these bills if they become law in their respective states and they will be held fully responsible along with leaders in their respective legislature. It may not happen immediately but eight to ten years down the road when the full effects of taking away these workers rights is fully felt I fear some hurt worker will take a gun and shoot one of these responsible parties! This writer does not advocate such violence, this writer is a staunch believer that good Americans work within the system to bring about change, resorting to violence is un-American. Nevertheless, history in America has shown when workers are hurt bad they sometimes don’t think rationally and at times they have resorted to violence, that is why it has been written that these “anti-collective bargaining” people are opening a “Pandora’s box” with their actions here!

 

[Big Fitz]

Yes, we know the left plans to cause violence since their targets aren't taking the bait to force a revolution and turn this nation into a socialist state.

It's been their modus operendi for more than a century.

 

[TheSeeker]

Why should public service employees who work for a State have a different level of protection than those who work for the Federal Government?

Also, what about the states that have Right To Work Laws? No one is revolting in them?

 

[WillowTree]

Hey! JIm. Buddy.. You seen the Flee Baggers? How they doin?

 

[WillowTree]

Looks like JIm is a Flee Bagger too. His little green light went out..

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Frankly, I'd like to see the unions and their idiot members relegated to the trash heap with all the other bad rubbish.

 

[bodecea]

Yes, we know the left plans to cause violence since their targets aren't taking the bait to force a revolution and turn this nation into a socialist state.

It's been their modus operendi for more than a century.

Certainly a lot of violence in WI these last few weeks, wasn't there..?

 

[TheSeeker]

Yes, we know the left plans to cause violence since their targets aren't taking the bait to force a revolution and turn this nation into a socialist state.

It's been their modus operendi for more than a century.

Certainly a lot of violence in WI these last few weeks, wasn't there..?

No...they just completely fizzled out just a day or so after Micheal Moore came into town calling for the huge worker revolt.

 

[Leweman]

You Anti-Collective Bargaining people with your agenda begun with your legislative initiatives in Wisconsin and Ohio are opening a Pandora’s box with the “anger” you will be unleashing among public workers and their families when the results of your efforts begun to be really felt by these individuals, it is guaranteed you won’t like the results! The one major issue that surprisingly does not seem to be resolved on this whole subject is that the “collective bargaining right” is a natural, fundamental right. They are just like the right to free speech, the right to have a say in who governs you (vote)! This phony debate that the “collective bargaining” right is a privilege not a right is without merit. A privilege is a permission to drive a car or a permission to hunt with a gun, the “collective bargaining” right is not permission like these it is a much more serious permission. A right, like free speech, right to vote, privacy rights, etc. is a permission or a protection that is not only important but integral to living (that is human life). The right of “collective bargaining” is integral to human life, because it is integral to a person’s job (who works under a collective bargaining agreement) and a job is essential to human life it enables a person to buy food, clothing, shelter, medical care, etc.. A collective bargaining right is integral to a person’s job (who has a collective bargaining agreement) because it is integral in determining wages, benefits, working conditions and conditions of termination and due to the nature of the management/worker relationship it is necessary to allow the worker to have such permission to join with his or her coworker to obtain fair terms on these listed aspects of a job – remember unless you have a collective-bargaining agreement essentially management has all the power they can set the wages, benefits, working conditions, terms of termination as “they so chose”. A worker is either a worker under a “contract for a term” or an “at will” employee and most workers that don’t work under a “collective bargaining” agreement are “at will” employees which means they practically have no power there is a huge imbalance of power in favor of management in these relationships and the right of “collective bargaining” gives the worker a fair chance to get fair terms of employment and it is the only reality that exists that can give a worker that fair chance!

If the right wing of the Republican Party keeps up with their agenda here to take away workers right to “collective bargain” they are going to cause a backlash in America which will result in the American people amending the constitution to expressly provide such a right in the constitution. This right is so important to enough working Americans that it will surely happen and in the process Republican candidates will lose many elections over the matter!

The individual politicians behind these legislative initiatives taking away “collective bargaining” rights aren’t thinking to clearly. The clever designs of these legislative bills in Wisconsin and Ohio will offer no protection to these politicians, these bills are taking away public workers right to “collectively bargain” that is the bottom line. Governor Scott Walker and Governor John Kasich will be forever linked with these bills if they become law in their respective states and they will be held fully responsible along with leaders in their respective legislature. It may not happen immediately but eight to ten years down the road when the full effects of taking away these workers rights is fully felt I fear some hurt worker will take a gun and shoot one of these responsible parties! This writer does not advocate such violence, this writer is a staunch believer that good Americans work within the system to bring about change, resorting to violence is un-American. Nevertheless, history in America has shown when workers are hurt bad they sometimes don’t think rationally and at times they have resorted to violence, that is why it has been written that these “anti-collective bargaining” people are opening a “Pandora’s box” with their actions here!

I keep hearing liberals trying to warn conservatives that there will be consequences at the booth. If this were true liberals wouldnt be saying anything at all. They want conservatives out of office why would they care.

 

[Big Fitz]

Yes, we know the left plans to cause violence since their targets aren't taking the bait to force a revolution and turn this nation into a socialist state.

It's been their modus operendi for more than a century.

Certainly a lot of violence in WI these last few weeks, wasn't there..?

Not there yet. This was promises of violence yet to come.

Being loudmouth assholes demanding entitlements is not violence... yet.

We'll see after the law is implemented. I still remember the RNC convention of 2008.

Poop bombs? Bombs made with poop. You heard that right. Part of the equipment being assembled by the RNC Welcoming Committee, a radical leftwing protest group.

Are there radical rightwing protest groups or political action groups that riot, throw poop and make spiked clubs? I can't think of one.

 

[Two Thumbs]

You Anti-Collective Bargaining people with your agenda begun with your legislative initiatives in Wisconsin and Ohio are opening a Pandora’s box with the “anger” you will be unleashing among public workers and their families when the results of your efforts begun to be really felt by these individuals, it is guaranteed you won’t like the results! Actually when the tax payer sees the debt go down, more people will be happy The one major issue that surprisingly does not seem to be resolved on this whole subject is that the “collective bargaining right” is a natural, fundamental right. No it is not. This is a blatant lie. That or you are a fool. They are just like the right to free speech, the right to have a say in who governs you (vote)! Not even close. Free speach is for each American. Unions are not people, just like corporations are not people. This phony debate that the “collective bargaining” right is a privilege not a right is without merit. That's b/c it is not a right and there is no debate. A privilege is a permission to drive a car or a permission to hunt with a gun, the “collective bargaining” right is not permission like these it is a much more serious permission. Wrong. You do not have the right to bargin for my money when I have no say in how much of my money you get. A right, like free speech, right to vote, privacy rights, etc. is a permission or a protection that is not only important but integral to living (that is human life). The right of “collective bargaining” is integral to human life, because it is integral to a person’s job (who works under a collective bargaining agreement) You can bargain for yourself. Therefore, collective bargaining is bs. and a job is essential to human life it enables a person to buy food, clothing, shelter, medical care, etc.. You have no right to a job either. A collective bargaining right is integral to a person’s job (who has a collective bargaining agreement) because it is integral in determining wages, benefits, working conditions and conditions of termination and due to the nature of the management/worker relationship it is necessary to allow the worker to have such permission to join with his or her coworker to obtain fair terms on these listed aspects of a job – remember unless you have a collective-bargaining agreement essentially management has all the power they can set the wages, benefits, working conditions, terms of termination as “they so chose”. They own the business you work in, so yeah, they can fire your lazy ass. In the public sector they are supposed to rep the people, so if you screw up or are not needed, you need to be fired or laid off. A worker is either a worker under a “contract for a term” or an “at will” employee and most workers that don’t work under a “collective bargaining” agreement are “at will” employees which means they practically have no power there is a huge imbalance of power in favor of management in these relationships and the right of “collective bargaining” gives the worker a fair chance to get fair terms of employment and it is the only reality that exists that can give a worker that fair chance!
Worker;I work harder than the rest. I want a raise.
Boss; no
Worker; I will get a job with the competition
Boss; CRAP, ok how much do you want?
Worker; X
Boss; can't afford X. How about x and we will toss in y.
Worker; hmm. How about x and toss in Y.
Boss; Deal
worker/Boss; *shake hands*

If the right wing of the Republican Party keeps up with their agenda here to take away workers right to “collective bargain” still not a right.they are going to cause a backlash in America which will result in the American people amending the constitution to expressly provide such a right in the constitution. You need to find a new dope dealer. I think you got a bad batch. This right is so important to enough working Americans that it will surely happen and in the process Republican candidates will lose many elections over the matter! Not when the debt goes down. I have noticed that Dems are unwilling to take hits to themselves to save the whole country though.

The individual politicians behind these legislative initiatives taking away “collective bargaining” rights aren’t thinking to clearly. The clever designs of these legislative bills in Wisconsin and Ohio will offer no protection to these politicians, these bills are taking away public workers right to “collectively bargain” that is the bottom line. Governor Scott Walker and Governor John Kasich will be forever linked with these bills if they become law in their respective states and they will be held fully responsible along with leaders in their respective legislature. It may not happen immediately but eight to ten years down the road when the full effects of taking away these workers rights is fully felt I fear some hurt worker will take a gun and shoot one of these responsible parties! Liberal civility at it's finest. This writer does not advocate such violence, this writer You are not a writer. Most likely you got this at the Huffpo meeting this morning. or at Moveon. is a staunch believer that good Americans work within the system to bring about change, resorting to violence is un-American. Nevertheless, history in America has shown when workers are hurt bad they sometimes don’t think rationally and at times they have resorted to violence, that is why it has been written that these “anti-collective bargaining” people are opening a “Pandora’s box” with their actions here!

what's with all the socialist/communist coming to USMB? There was another one yesterday.

Hey Jim; Who do you work for?

Why is the symbol of communism, socialism and the AFL-CIO the "Clenched Fist"?

 

[bucs90]

Of course. A left winger warns of the anger about to be unleashed by the left if they don't get what they want.

History shows this is true. Examples of other left wing governments whose anger was unleashed:

USSR
Red China
Russia
North Korea
Cuba
Venezuela
Nat'l Socialist Party of Germany
Axis Italy
Cuba
Burma
Vietnam

Just to name a few.

Yes, the left wing is extremely prone to violence when they don't get their way.

Remember, MODERN liberalism is defined as the pursuit of equality. Now, to have total equality, something must be taken from some and given to others. Humans don't take that well. Therefore, the only way to fulfill the liberal dream is a central, overpowering use of force by the government. Which is why full bloom left wing ideology in government is seen in massive left wing governments like that of the former USSR. Only overwhelming use of force or threat of force can accomplish the liberal dream.

But we have checks and balances in the USA that may prevent that. A president can't declare martial law that easily, and police don't have to follow unconstitutional orders.

To achieve the ultimate liberal dream here, a president would need something else, like a National Civil Defense Corp. And we've NEVER had a president call for that...............right?

 

[R.D.]

This phony debate that the “collective bargaining” right is a privilege not a right is without merit.

This whole idea of “rights” is really a brain dead concept.

The right to establish a government supported labor cartel has no rational behind it other than a play on words to sway emotions.

 

[bodecea]

Yes, we know the left plans to cause violence since their targets aren't taking the bait to force a revolution and turn this nation into a socialist state.

It's been their modus operendi for more than a century.

Certainly a lot of violence in WI these last few weeks, wasn't there..?

No...they just completely fizzled out just a day or so after Micheal Moore came into town calling for the huge worker revolt.

Then, so much for it being a modus operendi, wouldn't you say?

 

[editec]

You Anti-Collective Bargaining people with your agenda begun with your legislative initiatives in Wisconsin and Ohio are opening a Pandora’s box with the “anger” you will be unleashing among public workers and their families when the results of your efforts begun to be really felt by these individuals, it is guaranteed you won’t like the results! The one major issue that surprisingly does not seem to be resolved on this whole subject is that the “collective bargaining right” is a natural, fundamental right. They are just like the right to free speech, the right to have a say in who governs you (vote)! This phony debate that the “collective bargaining” right is a privilege not a right is without merit. A privilege is a permission to drive a car or a permission to hunt with a gun, the “collective bargaining” right is not permission like these it is a much more serious permission. A right, like free speech, right to vote, privacy rights, etc. is a permission or a protection that is not only important but integral to living (that is human life). The right of “collective bargaining” is integral to human life, because it is integral to a person’s job (who works under a collective bargaining agreement) and a job is essential to human life it enables a person to buy food, clothing, shelter, medical care, etc.. A collective bargaining right is integral to a person’s job (who has a collective bargaining agreement) because it is integral in determining wages, benefits, working conditions and conditions of termination and due to the nature of the management/worker relationship it is necessary to allow the worker to have such permission to join with his or her coworker to obtain fair terms on these listed aspects of a job – remember unless you have a collective-bargaining agreement essentially management has all the power they can set the wages, benefits, working conditions, terms of termination as “they so chose”. A worker is either a worker under a “contract for a term” or an “at will” employee and most workers that don’t work under a “collective bargaining” agreement are “at will” employees which means they practically have no power there is a huge imbalance of power in favor of management in these relationships and the right of “collective bargaining” gives the worker a fair chance to get fair terms of employment and it is the only reality that exists that can give a worker that fair chance!

If the right wing of the Republican Party keeps up with their agenda here to take away workers right to “collective bargain” they are going to cause a backlash in America which will result in the American people amending the constitution to expressly provide such a right in the constitution. This right is so important to enough working Americans that it will surely happen and in the process Republican candidates will lose many elections over the matter!

The individual politicians behind these legislative initiatives taking away “collective bargaining” rights aren’t thinking to clearly. The clever designs of these legislative bills in Wisconsin and Ohio will offer no protection to these politicians, these bills are taking away public workers right to “collectively bargain” that is the bottom line. Governor Scott Walker and Governor John Kasich will be forever linked with these bills if they become law in their respective states and they will be held fully responsible along with leaders in their respective legislature. It may not happen immediately but eight to ten years down the road when the full effects of taking away these workers rights is fully felt I fear some hurt worker will take a gun and shoot one of these responsible parties! This writer does not advocate such violence, this writer is a staunch believer that good Americans work within the system to bring about change, resorting to violence is un-American. Nevertheless, history in America has shown when workers are hurt bad they sometimes don’t think rationally and at times they have resorted to violence, that is why it has been written that these “anti-collective bargaining” people are opening a “Pandora’s box” with their actions here!

I wish I have the same confidence in that happening that you do.

But the PEOPLE do not get to change the constitution...the MASTERS bought and paid for representitives do.

Far as I can tell the average American has no representatives in Congress.

Well, maybe Bernie Sanders but he's pretty much theexception that proves the rule.

Anti-Unionism is a trend in American politics that is now over one generation old, and show no signs of abating.

So I'd say it will take at least another generation before the collective frustration of the working class reaches that point where unions will start doing what it really takes to win back their rights.

I'll be pushing daisys by then, of course, so this might be my son's generation's battle, or perhaps his sons.

 

[The Gadfly]

Jim, put down whatever questionable substance you're ingesting, and listen. First of all, there is NO "right to bargain collectively" under the Constitution of the United States, which is the sole authority for what "rights" people do and don't have in America. You are aware, I hope, that that territory known as Pennsylvania is a part of the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction of said constitution; and I presume that you also know that the States of Wisconsin and Ohio are part of the United States and therefore also subject to the jurisdiction of the same.

Second, you as much as admit the Constitution of the United States grants NO "right to bargain collectively" when you threaten that passage of these bills "will result in the American people amending the constitution to expressly provide such a right in the constitution". IF the Constitution grants any such right, you wouldn't need to amend it, and if it doesn't, then you have no such "right" at present. Hence the legislatures of Wisconsin, Ohio, and any other state(s) have a lawful right to enact the proposed legislation, whether you, the union, or your political allies like it or not. In spite of the ignorance demonstrated by your inconsistent verbal defecations above, I believe you know this, which is why you also make implied implied threats of violence and revolution resulting later.

Third, I live in a right to work state, and the workers here haven't ever had a closed union shop. They have yet to riot over it, much less start a revolt, so I think one can deduce that these workers find the lack of a "right to bargain collectively" considerably less of an inconvenience than you do. Why, they haven't even tried to amend the STATE constitution to create such a "right" for themselves; imagine that! As far as the "Revolution" idea goes, your dope-smoking progenitors threatened the same back in the sixties; never happened. They, and I suspect, you, couldn't foment a successful revolution in the lowliest, two-bit banana republic on earth, much less here.

Now, unless you have something more to add, (besides verbal flatus) go chill out, accept the will of the majority, and find something more educational to read than the Huffy Puffy Post; who knows, you might even learn enough to hold a real job where your work is of sufficient value for you to ask your boss for a raise, and have some chance of getting one.

 

[Big Fitz]

Certainly a lot of violence in WI these last few weeks, wasn't there..?

No...they just completely fizzled out just a day or so after Micheal Moore came into town calling for the huge worker revolt.

Then, so much for it being a modus operendi, wouldn't you say?

Obviously you aren't nuanced enough to comprehend my point.

 

[FreedomAli]

. It may not happen immediately but eight to ten years down the road when the full effects of taking away these workers rights is fully felt I fear some hurt worker will take a gun and shoot one of these responsible parties! This writer does not advocate such violence, this writer is a staunch believer that good Americans work within the system to bring about change, resorting to violence is un-American. Nevertheless, history in America has shown when workers are hurt bad they sometimes don’t think rationally and at times they have resorted to violence, that is why it has been written that these “anti-collective bargaining” people are opening a “Pandora’s box” with their actions here!

What are you talking about? Violence is as American as apple pie. Go and tell that nonsense to the Indians! When Lincoln wanted Americans to fight in the War of Northern Aggression, he executed those who refused to serve. When legislatures wanted to vote to stay out of the war, he attacked and ran them off while jailing newsmen and burning news papers to the ground. When the U.S. could not get its way it invavded dozens of countries, but violence is not American. Yeah, right!

HAWAII 1893 (-?) Naval, troops Independent kingdom overthrown, annexed.
CHICAGO 1894 Troops Breaking of rail strike, 34 killed.
NICARAGUA 1894 Troops Month-long occupation of Bluefields.
CHINA 1894-95 Naval, troops Marines land in Sino-Japanese War
KOREA 1894-96 Troops Marines kept in Seoul during war.
PANAMA 1895 Troops, naval Marines land in Colombian province.
NICARAGUA 1896 Troops Marines land in port of Corinto.
CHINA 1898-1900 Troops Boxer Rebellion fought by foreign armies.
PHILIPPINES 1898-1910 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, killed 600,000 Filipinos
CUBA 1898-1902 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still hold Navy base.
PUERTO RICO 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, occupation continues.
GUAM 1898 (-?) Naval, troops Seized from Spain, still use as base.
MINNESOTA 1898 (-?) Troops Army battles Chippewa at Leech Lake.
NICARAGUA 1898 Troops Marines land at port of San Juan del Sur.
SAMOA 1899 (-?) Troops Battle over succession to throne.
NICARAGUA 1899 Troops Marines land at port of Bluefields.
IDAHO 1899-1901 Troops Army occupies Coeur d'Alene mining region.
OKLAHOMA 1901 Troops Army battles Creek Indian revolt.
PANAMA 1901-14 Naval, troops Broke off from Colombia 1903, annexed Canal Zone 1914.
HONDURAS 1903 Troops Marines intervene in revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1903-04 Troops U.S. interests protected in Revolution.
KOREA 1904-05 Troops Marines land in Russo-Japanese War.
CUBA 1906-09 Troops Marines land in democratic election.
NICARAGUA 1907 Troops "Dollar Diplomacy" protectorate set up.
HONDURAS 1907 Troops Marines land during war with Nicaragua
PANAMA 1908 Troops Marines intervene in election contest.
NICARAGUA 1910 Troops Marines land in Bluefields and Corinto.
HONDURAS 1911 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.
CHINA 1911-41 Naval, troops Continuous occupation with flare-ups.
CUBA 1912 Troops U.S. interests protected in civil war.
PANAMA 1912 Troops Marines land during heated election.
HONDURAS 1912 Troops Marines protect U.S. economic interests.
NICARAGUA 1912-33 Troops, bombing 10-year occupation, fought guerillas
MEXICO 1913 Naval Americans evacuated during revolution.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1914 Naval Fight with rebels over Santo Domingo.
COLORADO 1914 Troops Breaking of miners' strike by Army.
MEXICO 1914-18 Naval, troops Series of interventions against nationalists.
HAITI 1914-34 Troops, bombing 19-year occupation after revolts.
TEXAS 1915 Troops Federal soldiers crush "Plan of San Diego" Mexican-American rebellion
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1916-24 Troops 8-year Marine occupation.
CUBA 1917-33 Troops Military occupation, economic protectorate.
WORLD WAR I 1917-18 Naval, troops Ships sunk, fought Germany for 1 1/2 years.
RUSSIA 1918-22 Naval, troops Five landings to fight Bolsheviks
PANAMA 1918-20 Troops "Police duty" during unrest after elections.
HONDURAS 1919 Troops Marines land during election campaign.
YUGOSLAVIA 1919 Troops/Marines intervene for Italy against Serbs in Dalmatia.
GUATEMALA 1920 Troops 2-week intervention against unionists.
WEST VIRGINIA 1920-21 Troops, bombing Army intervenes against mineworkers.
TURKEY 1922 Troops Fought nationalists in Smyrna.
CHINA 1922-27 Naval, troops Deployment during nationalist revolt.
HONDURAS 1924-25 Troops Landed twice during election strife.
PANAMA 1925 Troops Marines suppress general strike.
CHINA 1927-34 Troops Marines stationed throughout the country.
EL SALVADOR 1932 Naval Warships send during Marti revolt.
WASHINGTON DC 1932 Troops Army stops WWI vet bonus protest.
WORLD WAR II 1941-45 Naval, troops, bombing, nuclear Hawaii bombed, fought Japan, Italy and Germay for 3 years; first nuclear war.
DETROIT 1943 Troops Army put down Black rebellion.
IRAN 1946 Nuclear threat Soviet troops told to leave north.
YUGOSLAVIA 1946 Nuclear threat, naval Response to shoot-down of US plane.
URUGUAY 1947 Nuclear threat Bombers deployed as show of strength.
GREECE 1947-49 Command operation U.S. directs extreme-right in civil war.
GERMANY 1948 Nuclear Threat Atomic-capable bombers guard Berlin Airlift.
CHINA 1948-49 Troops/Marines evacuate Americans before Communist victory.
PHILIPPINES 1948-54 Command operation CIA directs war against Huk Rebellion.
PUERTO RICO 1950 Command operation Independence rebellion crushed in Ponce.
KOREA 1951-53 (-?) Troops, naval, bombing , nuclear threats U.S./So. Korea fights China/No. Korea to stalemate; A-bomb threat in 1950, and against China in 1953. Still have bases.
IRAN 1953 Command Operation CIA overthrows democracy, installs Shah.
VIETNAM 1954 Nuclear threat French offered bombs to use against seige.
GUATEMALA 1954 Command operation, bombing, nuclear threat CIA directs exile invasion after new gov't nationalized U.S. company lands; bombers based in Nicaragua.
EGYPT 1956 Nuclear threat, troops Soviets told to keep out of Suez crisis; Marines evacuate foreigners.
LEBANON l958 Troops, naval Marine occupation against rebels.
IRAQ 1958 Nuclear threat Iraq warned against invading Kuwait.
CHINA l958 Nuclear threat China told not to move on Taiwan isles.
PANAMA 1958 Troops Flag protests erupt into confrontation.
VIETNAM l960-75 Troops, naval, bombing, nuclear threats Fought South Vietnam revolt & North Vietnam; one million killed in longest U.S. war; atomic bomb threats in l968 and l969.
CUBA l961 Command operation CIA-directed exile invasion fails.
GERMANY l961 Nuclear threat Alert during Berlin Wall crisis.
LAOS 1962 Command operation Military buildup during guerrilla war.
CUBA l962 Nuclear threat, naval Blockade during missile crisis; near-war with Soviet Union.
IRAQ 1963 Command operation CIA organizes coup that killed president, brings Ba'ath Party to power, and Saddam Hussein back from exile to be head of the secret service.
PANAMA l964 Troops Panamanians shot for urging canal's return.
INDONESIA l965 Command operation Million killed in CIA-assisted army coup.
DOMINICAN REPUBLIC 1965-66 Troops, bombing Marines land during election campaign.
GUATEMALA l966-67 Command operation Green Berets intervene against rebels.
DETROIT l967 Troops Army battles African Americans, 43 killed.
UNITED STATES l968 Troops After King is shot; over 21,000 soldiers in cities.
CAMBODIA l969-75 Bombing, troops, naval Up to 2 million killed in decade of bombing, starvation, and political chaos.
OMAN l970 Command operation U.S. directs Iranian marine invasion.
LAOS l971-73 Command operation, bombing U.S. directs South Vietnamese invasion; "carpet-bombs" countryside.
SOUTH DAKOTA l973 Command operation Army directs Wounded Knee siege of Lakotas.
MIDEAST 1973 Nuclear threat World-wide alert during Mideast War.
CHILE 1973 Command operation CIA-backed coup ousts elected marxist president.
CAMBODIA l975 Troops, bombing Gas captured ship, 28 die in copter crash.
ANGOLA l976-92 Command operation CIA assists South African-backed rebels.
IRAN l980 Troops, nuclear threat, aborted bombing Raid to rescue Embassy hostages; 8 troops die in copter-plane crash. Soviets warned not to get involved in revolution.
LIBYA l981 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down in maneuvers.
EL SALVADOR l981-92 Command operation, troops Advisors, overflights aid anti-rebel war, soldiers briefly involved in hostage clash.
NICARAGUA l981-90 Command operation, naval CIA directs exile (Contra) invasions, plants harbor mines against revolution.
LEBANON l982-84 Naval, bombing, troops Marines expel PLO and back Phalangists, Navy bombs and shells Muslim positions.
GRENADA l983-84 Troops, bombing Invasion four years after revolution.
HONDURAS l983-89 Troops Maneuvers help build bases near borders.
IRAN l984 Jets Two Iranian jets shot down over Persian Gulf.
LIBYA l986 Bombing, naval Air strikes to topple nationalist gov't.
BOLIVIA 1986 Troops Army assists raids on cocaine region.
IRAN l987-88 Naval, bombing US intervenes on side of Iraq in war.
LIBYA 1989 Naval jets Two Libyan jets shot down.
VIRGIN ISLANDS 1989 Troops St. Croix Black unrest after storm.
PHILIPPINES 1989 Jets Air cover provided for government against coup.
PANAMA 1989 (-?) Troops, bombing Nationalist government ousted by 27,000 soldiers, leaders arrested, 2000+ killed.
LIBERIA 1990 Troops Foreigners evacuated during civil war.
SAUDI ARABIA 1990-91 Troops, jets Iraq countered after invading Kuwait. 540,000 troops also stationed in Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Israel.
IRAQ 1990-91 Bombing, troops, naval Blockade of Iraqi and Jordanian ports, air strikes; 200,000+ killed in invasion of Iraq and Kuwait; large-scale destruction of Iraqi military.
KUWAIT 1991 Naval, bombing, troops Kuwait royal family returned to throne.
IRAQ 1991-2003 Bombing, naval No-fly zone over Kurdish north, Shiite south; constant air strikes and naval-enforced economic sanctions
LOS ANGELES 1992 Troops Army, Marines deployed against anti-police uprising.
SOMALIA 1992-94 Troops, naval, bombing U.S.-led United Nations occupation during civil war; raids against one Mogadishu faction.
YUGOSLAVIA 1992-94 Naval NATO blockade of Serbia and Montenegro.
BOSNIA 1993-? Jets, bombing No-fly zone patrolled in civil war; downed jets, bombed Serbs.
HAITI 1994 Troops, naval Blockade against military government; troops restore President Aristide to office three years after coup.
ZAIRE (CONGO) 1996-97 Troops Marines at Rwandan Hutu refugee camps, in area where Congo revolution begins.
LIBERIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
ALBANIA 1997 Troops Soldiers under fire during evacuation of foreigners.
SUDAN 1998 Missiles Attack on pharmaceutical plant alleged to be "terrorist" nerve gas plant.
AFGHANISTAN 1998 Missiles Attack on former CIA training camps used by Islamic fundamentalist groups alleged to have attacked embassies.
IRAQ 1998 Bombing, Missiles Four days of intensive air strikes after weapons inspectors allege Iraqi obstructions.
YUGOSLAVIA 1999 Bombing, Missiles Heavy NATO air strikes after Serbia declines to withdraw from Kosovo. NATO occupation of Kosovo.
YEMEN 2000 Naval USS Cole, docked in Aden, bombed.
MACEDONIA 2001 Troops NATO forces deployed to move and disarm Albanian rebels.
UNITED STATES 2001 Jets, naval Reaction to hijacker attacks on New York, DC
AFGHANISTAN 2001-? Troops, bombing, missiles Massive U.S. mobilization to overthrow Taliban, hunt Al Qaeda fighters, install Karzai regime, and battle Taliban insurgency. More than 30,000 U.S. troops and numerous private security contractors carry our occupation.
YEMEN 2002 Missiles Predator drone missile attack on Al Qaeda, including a US citizen.
PHILIPPINES 2002-? Troops, naval Training mission for Philippine military fighting Abu Sayyaf rebels evolves into combat missions in Sulu Archipelago, west of Mindanao.
COLOMBIA 2003-? Troops US special forces sent to rebel zone to back up Colombian military protecting oil pipeline.
IRAQ 2003-? Troops, naval, bombing, missiles Saddam regime toppled in Baghdad. More than 250,000 U.S. personnel participate in invasion. US and UK forces occupy country and battle Sunni and Shi'ite insurgencies. More than 160,000 troops and numerous private contractors carry out occupation and build large permanent bases.
LIBERIA 2003 Troops Brief involvement in peacekeeping force as rebels drove out leader.
HAITI 2004-05 Troops, naval Marines land after right-wing rebels oust elected President Aristide, who was advised to leave by Washington.
PAKISTAN 2005-? Missiles, bombing, covert operation CIA missile and air strikes and Special Forces raids on alleged Al Qaeda and Taliban refuge villages kill multiple civilians. Drone attacks also on Pakistani Mehsud network.
SOMALIA 2006-? Missiles, naval, covert operation Special Forces advise Ethiopian invasion that topples Islamist government; AC-130 strikes and Cruise missile attacks against Islamist rebels; naval blockade against "pirates" and insurgents.
SYRIA 2008 Troops Special Forces in helicopter raid 5 miles from Iraq kill 8 Syrian civilians
YEMEN 2009-? Missiles, command operation Cruise missile attack on Al Qaeda kills 49 civilians; Yemeni military assaults on rebels

 

[Toronado3800]

Calm down buddy. Let the Pinkertons fire the first shots before "we" get violent.

Do you belong to a Union? If so pass them on some information for me. GIVE that fellow out there picketing the cost of hiring his union to do the job at whatever store he is picketing the use of scab workers at.

Then I can decide on my own to go to them. No lazy I'm boycotting just because you are a WASP or whatever here.

 

[FreedomAli]

But, seeing all these military interventions, how can one say violence is not the American way? Our national anthem is even about war.