Yes, You're A Communist

[TooTall]

Well if this is true then the number of communists is growing I guess because sanders followers are growing in number big time. I suppose those people ate a threat to the country correct?

They see free stuff promised to them and just can't resist.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yup. The far righties go after the government teat en masse.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Here's a refutation of Poltical Chic's OP, using PolticalChic's own method of 'debate'

1. Karl Marx's lethal philosophy is the basis of both communism and of Nazism.

a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." NYTimes, November 27, 1925.

The Times is lying.

b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

George Watson is lying.


c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.

Vladimir Bukovsky is lying.



2. I don't use "lethal" in a cavalier fashion: Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughed, and said 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?'
And the horrors of Nazism are well known. But both began here:

a. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

George Watson is lying.

b. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

Karl Marx was lying.

c. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.

George Watson is lying.

Well done.

PC is lying.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

A toughie....who to believe.

See, that's the problem, you have to believe instead of simply accepting historical facts

But don't let get facts in the way of your beliefs, please carry on

 

[PoliticalChic]

The total quality of American political illiteracy is a real credit to Senator McCarthy. God, aren't the buggers ignorant!

Know who said that more recently?

" “I just heard about this,” Obama told Fox News’ Ed Henry...." some adviser who never worked on our staff expressed an opinion that I completely disagree with in terms of the voters is no reflection on the actual process that was run,”Obama said.

Republicans have used the term “architect” to describe Gruber’s role in the creation of Obamacare, while Democrats have now sought to paint him as a marginal player....videos surfaced over the past week in which Gruber spoke freely about how he believed Obamacare was passed.

Claiming a “lack of transparency” was necessary to pass Obamacare, Gruber said last year “this bill was written in a tortured way to make sure the [Congressional Budget Office] did not score the mandate as taxes. If CBO scored the mandate as taxes, the bill dies.”

“Call it the stupidity of the American voter,” Gruber said." Obama Addresses Gruber s Comments The Daily Caller





“Call it the stupidity of the American voter,” Gruber said."
We've all seen this quote because of how insulting it is, another Liberal elitist looking down his nose at Americans.

But...but clarity......let's remember that the "stupidity" is aimed directly at those who voted for the lying windbag in the White House.
That's right!
The folks who presented ObamaCare did so fully recognizing how stupid their supporters are!


And the term has applied and still applies to Democrat voters.....they don't even know that they are communists.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here's a refutation of Poltical Chic's OP, using PolticalChic's own method of 'debate'

1. Karl Marx's lethal philosophy is the basis of both communism and of Nazism.

a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." NYTimes, November 27, 1925.

The Times is lying.

b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

George Watson is lying.


c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.

Vladimir Bukovsky is lying.



2. I don't use "lethal" in a cavalier fashion: Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughed, and said 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?'
And the horrors of Nazism are well known. But both began here:

a. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

George Watson is lying.

b. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

Karl Marx was lying.

c. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.

George Watson is lying.

This post is classic!!!!

Classic, I say!


Now....why are you known far and wide as "NYLiar"?????

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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[CrusaderFrank]

American Democart, Socialist, Progressive and Fascist are all just 50 Shades of Communism

 

[PoliticalChic]

American Democart, Socialist, Progressive and Fascist are all just 50 Shades of Communism

And this thread will prove same......well, to every intelligent, open-minded, honest individual.
And you know who that leaves out.

 

[Sbiker]

You say COmmunism, then at the bottom it says Socialism. Er...

Clean off your specs.

The OP explains:

Surprising how many good Americans have been fooled into accepting, and voting for, communism. And when the truth is revealed, they are startled, incensed, and furious that anyone would say such a thing.

But it's true. There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.

How did communism become the public religion of America? The following will explain, ....as we say in science....'its origin and insertion."


In a recent thread, one that illustrated the connections between environmentalists, communists, with the confiscation of private property, a government school graduate demonstrated how offended she was by posting this as part of a scathing disavowal of the above:

"OP tries to connect communism to the moderate left wing democrats." One More Of Those Environmentalist Fairytales

Clearly, an intervention is sorely needed.

It follows:



1. Karl Marx's lethal philosophy is the basis of both communism and of Nazism.

a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." NYTimes, November 27, 1925.

b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.



2. I don't use "lethal" in a cavalier fashion: Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughed, and said 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?'
And the horrors of Nazism are well known. But both began here:

a. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

b. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

c. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.




And this is what we find leading the Democrat Party this very day:
"Bernie Sanders Makes His Pitch for Socialism" Bernie Sanders Outlines A Vision for Fixing American Society



Read more- if you dare, Liberals.

You're running out of original crackpot ideas.

There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.


Meaning you have to admit that the OP is 100% accurate.

Gracias.

Communism, socialism and liberalism - good company... Add here a feodalism, it based at a faith in government too... :

 

[CrusaderFrank]

American Democart, Socialist, Progressive and Fascist are all just 50 Shades of Communism

And this thread will prove same......well, to every intelligent, open-minded, honest individual.
And you know who that leaves out.

I wonder why they fight so hard against the label?

They defend Stalin and Communism, they hate McCarthy for outing most of FDR Brain Trust as Communist, they hate Reagan for defeating Soviet Communism. At some point, don't they being to wonder who they really are based on who their BFFs are?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[PoliticalChic]

American Democart, Socialist, Progressive and Fascist are all just 50 Shades of Communism

And this thread will prove same......well, to every intelligent, open-minded, honest individual.
And you know who that leaves out.

I wonder why they fight so hard against the label?

They defend Stalin and Communism, they hate McCarthy for outing most of FDR Brain Trust as Communist, they hate Reagan for defeating Soviet Communism. At some point, don't they being to wonder who they really are based on who their BFFs are?

It's funny in a sad kind of way.

They cannot admit out loud that they have been used, manipulated, tricked into subscribing to a doctrine at the very least equal to Nazism!

After all...to admit it at this stage would be admitting to deep, wide, abject, interminable stupidity of the most dangerous sort.


One more nail in their coffins....
Environmentalism, a Liberal project.....

On the excellent webcast Uncommon Knowledge, Czech president Václav Klaus recently compared “two ideologies” that were “structurally very similar. They are against individual freedom. They are in favor of centralistic masterminding of our fates. They are both very similar in telling us what to do, how to live, how to behave, what to eat, how to travel, what we can do and what we cannot do.” The first of Klaus’s “two ideologies” was Communism—a system with which he was deeply familiar, having participated in the Velvet Revolution in 1989. The second was environmentalism.
The Varieties of Liberal Enthusiasm by Benjamin A. Plotinsky, City Journal Spring 2010

 

[Moonglow]

Yes, You're A Communist


and me without any borsch....

 

[Moonglow]

Do you always quote crazy people from your head?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Do you always quote crazy people from your head?

Just wondering.....have you read her books?

Are you prepared to deny the veracity of the quote?

 

[Moonglow]

Do you always quote crazy people from your head?

Just wondering.....have you read her books?

I have, yet feel the need to wretch...

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.

Chica, tell us all PRECISELY what liberties and freedoms you have personally lost here in the US having origins in the war torn Korean peninsula. You've made this claim multiple times, but you never specifically relate the rights and privileges, of which you have been deprived, denied or lost after arrival in this Country. Instead, you imply only vague references depicting other political thoughts and philosophies which are anathema here as the basis of your assertions, but which are part of life in the area of your heritage. So tell us about your lost rights and privileges as you see them so they may be examined objectively for their validity.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You say COmmunism, then at the bottom it says Socialism. Er...

Clean off your specs.

The OP explains:

Surprising how many good Americans have been fooled into accepting, and voting for, communism. And when the truth is revealed, they are startled, incensed, and furious that anyone would say such a thing.

But it's true. There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.

How did communism become the public religion of America? The following will explain, ....as we say in science....'its origin and insertion."


In a recent thread, one that illustrated the connections between environmentalists, communists, with the confiscation of private property, a government school graduate demonstrated how offended she was by posting this as part of a scathing disavowal of the above:

"OP tries to connect communism to the moderate left wing democrats." One More Of Those Environmentalist Fairytales

Clearly, an intervention is sorely needed.

It follows:



1. Karl Marx's lethal philosophy is the basis of both communism and of Nazism.

a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." NYTimes, November 27, 1925.

b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.



2. I don't use "lethal" in a cavalier fashion: Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughed, and said 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?'
And the horrors of Nazism are well known. But both began here:

a. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.

b. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981

c. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.




And this is what we find leading the Democrat Party this very day:
"Bernie Sanders Makes His Pitch for Socialism" Bernie Sanders Outlines A Vision for Fixing American Society



Read more- if you dare, Liberals.

You're running out of original crackpot ideas.

There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.


Meaning you have to admit that the OP is 100% accurate.

Gracias.

Communism, socialism and liberalism - good company... Add here a feodalism, it based at a faith in government too... :

Welcome to the board, Sbiker.

What do you mean, 'good company'?

I know of no such term as 'feodalism.'

 

[Siete]

At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.

Chica, tell us all PRECISELY what liberties and freedoms you have personally lost here in the US having origins in the war torn Korean peninsula. You've made this claim multiple times, but you never specifically relate the rights and privileges, of which you have been deprived, denied or lost after arrival in this Country. Instead, you imply only vague references depicting other political thoughts and philosophies which are anathema here as the basis of your assertions, but which are part of life in the area of your heritage. So tell us about your lost rights and privileges as you see them so they may be examined objectively for their validity.

she's Canadian ..