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Yes, You're A Communist
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NightFox
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Ahem.... you can't tell the number of communists by how many people are a "Sanders follower", you have to use the foolproof Joseph McCarthy method; anyone that admits to being a communist *might* be a communist, anyone that denies being a communist is without a doubt a communist.Well if this is true then the number of communists is growing I guess because sanders followers are growing in number big time. I suppose those people ate a threat to the country correct?
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As will now become routine whenever PoliticalChic posts this Big Lie again and again, let me post what Hitler really thought about Marxism. All below is verbatim from 'Mein Kampf', not secondhand unsubstantiated musings from unknown musers:
"In this period my eyes were opened to two menaces of which I had previously scarcely known the names, and whose terrible importance for the existence of the German people I certainly did not understand:
Marxism and Jewry."
"Only a knowledge of the Jews provides the key with which to comprehend the inner, and consequently real, aims of Social Democracy.
The erroneous conceptions of the aim and meaning of this party fall from our eyes like veils, once we come to know this people, and from the fog and mist of social phrases rises the leering grimace of Marxism."
(Now take note in the above, where Hitler essentially says that it was a revelation to him that in reality, Social Democracy was no different than Marxism...
...and then compare that to the line that PoliticalChic has repeated again and again, including above -
"There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism."
Amazing eh, the similarity? I guess great minds think alike, as PC would say.)
Are you saying that PoliticalChic is a Nazi?
I would definitely agree...especially with her propensity towards hatefilled rhetoric.
Are you saying the truth hurts?
Tissue?
Your stunned silence over seeing your lies about Hitler comprehensively demolished are painfully side splitting.
As I explained to you the last time you tried that....Hitler, like you, an inveterate liar.
I assigned you the task of looking up the term "polemic.' It is generally used as a pejorative.
You posted Hitler's polemic....his prevarication.
In short....your post was meaningless.
Very much like you.
washamericom
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Do you consider Norway, Sweden, and Denmark to be communist countries?
they will be.
NYcarbineer
Diamond Member
As will now become routine whenever PoliticalChic posts this Big Lie again and again, let me post what Hitler really thought about Marxism. All below is verbatim from 'Mein Kampf', not secondhand unsubstantiated musings from unknown musers:
"In this period my eyes were opened to two menaces of which I had previously scarcely known the names, and whose terrible importance for the existence of the German people I certainly did not understand:
Marxism and Jewry."
"Only a knowledge of the Jews provides the key with which to comprehend the inner, and consequently real, aims of Social Democracy.
The erroneous conceptions of the aim and meaning of this party fall from our eyes like veils, once we come to know this people, and from the fog and mist of social phrases rises the leering grimace of Marxism."
(Now take note in the above, where Hitler essentially says that it was a revelation to him that in reality, Social Democracy was no different than Marxism...
...and then compare that to the line that PoliticalChic has repeated again and again, including above -
"There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism."
Amazing eh, the similarity? I guess great minds think alike, as PC would say.)
Are you saying that PoliticalChic is a Nazi?
I would definitely agree...especially with her propensity towards hatefilled rhetoric.
Are you saying the truth hurts?
Tissue?
Your stunned silence over seeing your lies about Hitler comprehensively demolished are painfully side splitting.
As I explained to you the last time you tried that....Hitler, like you, an inveterate liar.
I assigned you the task of looking up the term "polemic.' It is generally used as a pejorative.
You posted Hitler's polemic....his prevarication.
In short....your post was meaningless.
Very much like you.
Oh right, there's her brilliant response. Hitler was lying.
Newflash people, PC believes Hitler never really hated the Jews and the Marxists!!!!
Goddam, you cannot get more stupid than PolticalChic.
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PC thinks there is "essentially" no difference between North Korea and Vermont.
The second amendment is the only thing standing between Vermont and North Korea
Try not to use vocabulary of whose definitions you are unaware.
Case in point: "delusion."
Can you point to any 'delusions' in the OP?
Now don't embarrass yourself again.
Seriously? I'm not the one claiming Hitler was a marxist who threw other marxists in concentration camps and then went to war with all the other marxists he could find
Oh, just for your information, the first people in the concentration camps weren't jews but the communist opposition followed by the evil socialists (union leaders and social democrats).
NYcarbineer
Diamond Member
Surprising how many good Americans have been fooled into accepting, and voting for, communism. And when the truth is revealed, they are startled, incensed, and furious that anyone would say such a thing.
But it's true. There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.
How did communism become the public religion of America? The following will explain, ....as we say in science....'its origin and insertion."
In a recent thread, one that illustrated the connections between environmentalists, communists, with the confiscation of private property, a government school graduate demonstrated how offended she was by posting this as part of a scathing disavowal of the above:
"OP tries to connect communism to the moderate left wing democrats." One More Of Those Environmentalist Fairytales
Clearly, an intervention is sorely needed.
It follows:
1. Karl Marx's lethal philosophy is the basis of both communism and of Nazism.
a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." NYTimes, November 27, 1925.
b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.
c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.
2. I don't use "lethal" in a cavalier fashion: Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughed, and said 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?'
And the horrors of Nazism are well known. But both began here:
a. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.
b. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981
c. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.
And this is what we find leading the Democrat Party this very day:
"Bernie Sanders Makes His Pitch for Socialism" Bernie Sanders Outlines A Vision for Fixing American Society
Read more- if you dare, Liberals.
It's probably useless but this is a good story
Why America’s Next President Will Not Be a Socialist
Could clear up some of your delusions
Try not to use vocabulary of whose definitions you are unaware.
Case in point: "delusion."
Can you point to any 'delusions' in the OP?
Now don't embarrass yourself again.
Yes, the delusion that Hitler was a Marxist.
Yes the delusion that there is no difference between a liberal and communist.
Neither can you apparently. I guess you two make a good pair.
NYcarbineer
Diamond Member
PC thinks there is "essentially" no difference between North Korea and Vermont.
The second amendment is the only thing standing between Vermont and North Korea
Stop babbling.
NightFox
Wildling
Poor Joe was too drunk most of the time. Here comes a dissertation on how great he was.....wait for it.
He was great at running witch hunts had unbelievable acumen for being an asshole and possessed a remarkable talent for holding his liquor; each of us has our own unique path to greatness, Joe had his and we should respect him for it.
...and You're Welcome.
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Surprising how many good Americans have been fooled into accepting, and voting for, communism. And when the truth is revealed, they are startled, incensed, and furious that anyone would say such a thing.
But it's true. There is no essential difference between communism, socialism, Liberalism and/or Progressivism. At the heart of each is a faith and adherence to big, overarching government, the representative of the collective, at the cost of individual liberty and freedom.
How did communism become the public religion of America? The following will explain, ....as we say in science....'its origin and insertion."
In a recent thread, one that illustrated the connections between environmentalists, communists, with the confiscation of private property, a government school graduate demonstrated how offended she was by posting this as part of a scathing disavowal of the above:
"OP tries to connect communism to the moderate left wing democrats." One More Of Those Environmentalist Fairytales
Clearly, an intervention is sorely needed.
It follows:
1. Karl Marx's lethal philosophy is the basis of both communism and of Nazism.
a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." NYTimes, November 27, 1925.
b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.
c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.
2. I don't use "lethal" in a cavalier fashion: Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughed, and said 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?'
And the horrors of Nazism are well known. But both began here:
a. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.
b. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981
c. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.
And this is what we find leading the Democrat Party this very day:
"Bernie Sanders Makes His Pitch for Socialism" Bernie Sanders Outlines A Vision for Fixing American Society
Read more- if you dare, Liberals.
It's probably useless but this is a good story
Why America’s Next President Will Not Be a Socialist
Could clear up some of your delusions
Try not to use vocabulary of whose definitions you are unaware.
Case in point: "delusion."
Can you point to any 'delusions' in the OP?
Now don't embarrass yourself again.
Yes, the delusion that Hitler was a Marxist.
Yes the delusion that there is no difference between a liberal and communist.
Hmmmm.....
"
George G. Watson (13 October 1927[1] - 2 August 2013[2]) was an English lecturer, literary critic and historian.[3] He was a Fellow at St John's College at Cambridge University.[4]
A talented linguist, he worked for the European Commission, both as an interpreter and checking its publications.
Watson became a lecturer of English at Cambridge University in 1959 and a Fellow of St John's College in 1961.[1]
He met C. S. Lewis at Oxford's Socratic Club in 1948 and attended his lectures. Later, he counted him among his finest professors and, after Watson joined Cambridge, among his colleagues.[1] Among Watson's English students at St John's was Douglas Adams.[5]
Books:
- Is socialism left? (1967, 1972)
- The Lost Literature of Socialism
In his will he left £950,000 to the Liberal Democrats.[8]
George G. Watson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Watson says this:
b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.
A toughie....who to believe.
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PC thinks there is "essentially" no difference between North Korea and Vermont.
The second amendment is the only thing standing between Vermont and North Korea
Stop babbling.
Stop lying.
- Thread starter
- #56
Hmmmm.....Try not to use vocabulary of whose definitions you are unaware.
Case in point: "delusion."
Can you point to any 'delusions' in the OP?
Now don't embarrass yourself again.
Seriously? I'm not the one claiming Hitler was a marxist who threw other marxists in concentration camps and then went to war with all the other marxists he could find
Oh, just for your information, the first people in the concentration camps weren't jews but the communist opposition followed by the evil socialists (union leaders and social democrats).
"
George G. Watson (13 October 1927[1] - 2 August 2013[2]) was an English lecturer, literary critic and historian.[3] He was a Fellow at St John's College at Cambridge University.[4]
A talented linguist, he worked for the European Commission, both as an interpreter and checking its publications.
Watson became a lecturer of English at Cambridge University in 1959 and a Fellow of St John's College in 1961.[1]
He met C. S. Lewis at Oxford's Socratic Club in 1948 and attended his lectures. Later, he counted him among his finest professors and, after Watson joined Cambridge, among his colleagues.[1] Among Watson's English students at St John's was Douglas Adams.[5]
Books:
- Is socialism left? (1967, 1972)
- The Lost Literature of Socialism
In his will he left £950,000 to the Liberal Democrats.[8]
George G. Watson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Watson says this:
b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.
A toughie....who to believe.
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None of which, dear, supports your mish mash of an OP.
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3. Yes....The reality is that none of these is markedly different: Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Progressivism, Nazism.
a. "In an article on socialism in the Encyclopedia Britannica,
Prof. G. D. H. Cole, a leading theoretician and historian of
the British Labor Party, declares: The distinction between socialism as distinguished by various Labor and Socialist parties of Europe and the New World, and communism, as represented by the Russians and minority parties in other countries is one of tactics-and-strategy rather than one of objective. Communism is indeed only socialism pursued by revolutionary means and making its revolutionary method a canon of faith...."
In The Communist Manifesto, Marx and Engels stated that
communist ends can be attained "only by the forcible overthrow
of all existing social conditions."
Chesley Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution"
b. " The Communists and their Marxist cousins, the Socialists,
have worked for revolution since the advent of the New Deal
twenty-one years ago by infiltrating government offices, , labor
unions, schools and colleges, churches, radio and television,
the movies, the publishing business. " Ibid.
During Jack Cafferty's time as a co-anchor of CNN's morning program, he reported on March 31, 2004 that "It's a red-letter day here in America. Air America, that communist radio network, starts broadcasting in a little while."
Cafferty was unyielding when CNN colleague Soledad O'Brien responded by saying that the new talk-radio network was not communist but liberal.
He replied: "Well. Aren't they synonymous?"
a. "In an article on socialism in the Encyclopedia Britannica,
Prof. G. D. H. Cole, a leading theoretician and historian of
the British Labor Party, declares: The distinction between socialism as distinguished by various Labor and Socialist parties of Europe and the New World, and communism, as represented by the Russians and minority parties in other countries is one of tactics-and-strategy rather than one of objective. Communism is indeed only socialism pursued by revolutionary means and making its revolutionary method a canon of faith...."
In The Communist Manifesto, Marx and Engels stated that
communist ends can be attained "only by the forcible overthrow
of all existing social conditions."
Chesley Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution"
b. " The Communists and their Marxist cousins, the Socialists,
have worked for revolution since the advent of the New Deal
twenty-one years ago by infiltrating government offices, , labor
unions, schools and colleges, churches, radio and television,
the movies, the publishing business. " Ibid.
During Jack Cafferty's time as a co-anchor of CNN's morning program, he reported on March 31, 2004 that "It's a red-letter day here in America. Air America, that communist radio network, starts broadcasting in a little while."
Cafferty was unyielding when CNN colleague Soledad O'Brien responded by saying that the new talk-radio network was not communist but liberal.
He replied: "Well. Aren't they synonymous?"
NYcarbineer
Diamond Member
Here's a refutation of Poltical Chic's OP, using PolticalChic's own method of 'debate'
1. Karl Marx's lethal philosophy is the basis of both communism and of Nazism.
a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." NYTimes, November 27, 1925.
The Times is lying.
b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.
George Watson is lying.
c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.
Vladimir Bukovsky is lying.
2. I don't use "lethal" in a cavalier fashion: Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughed, and said 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?'
And the horrors of Nazism are well known. But both began here:
a. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.
George Watson is lying.
b. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981
Karl Marx was lying.
c. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.
George Watson is lying.
1. Karl Marx's lethal philosophy is the basis of both communism and of Nazism.
a. A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." NYTimes, November 27, 1925.
The Times is lying.
b. "Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism."
George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.
George Watson is lying.
c. "Socialists in Germany were national socialists, communists were international socialists."
Vladimir Bukovsky.
Vladimir Bukovsky is lying.
2. I don't use "lethal" in a cavalier fashion: Over 100 million men, women, and children were slaughtered by Soviet Communism alone. When that fact was stated, one inveterate Liberal poster laughed, and said 'You sure it wasn't 100 billion?'
And the horrors of Nazism are well known. But both began here:
a. "Early socialists publically advocated genocide, in the 19th and 20th centuries. It first appeared in Marx's journal, Rheinishe Zeitung, in January of 1849. When the socialist class war happens, there will be primitive societies in Europe, two stages behind- not even capitalist yet- the Basques, the Bretons, the Scottish Highlanders, the Serbs, and others he calls 'racial trash,' and they will have to be destroyed because, being two stages behind in the class struggle, it will be impossible to bring them up to being revolutionary." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge University.
George Watson is lying.
b. "The classes and races, too weak to master the new conditions of life, must give way...they must perish in the revolutionary holocaust." Karl Marx, People's Paper, April 16, 1856, Journal of the History of Idea, 1981
Karl Marx was lying.
c. "Before Marx, no other European thinker publically advocated racial extermination. He was the first."
George Watson.
George Watson is lying.
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