Wrongful Assuming.

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    Exodus 13:21 "And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night:"


    Giving proper 'honor' where proper 'honor' is due.


    The Qu'ran teaches us that God is 1. That God is not The LORD. That God is not the LORD spoken of in Exodus 13:21.


    There is God.
    There is The LORD.
    And then there is The Lord, The Only Begotten Son of The LORD; The Messiah Whom God hath declared, Messiah.
     
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    It is also wrongful assuming to say that God was the 1 that gave the 10 commandments.


    Deuteronomy 5:1-5 "And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them. 2The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb. 3The LORD made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day. 4The LORD talked with you face to face in the mount out of the midst of the fire, 5(I stood between the LORD and you at that time, to shew you the word of the LORD: for ye were afraid by reason of the fire, and went not up into the mount;) saying,"



    6-21

    "I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.

    7Thou shalt have none other gods before me.

    8Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth: 9Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me, 10And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

    11Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain: for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

    12Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee. 13Six days thou shalt labour, and do all thy work: 14But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. 15And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day.

    16Honour thy father and thy mother, as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee; that thy days may be prolonged, and that it may go well with thee, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

    17Thou shalt not kill.

    18Neither shalt thou commit adultery.

    19Neither shalt thou steal.

    20Neither shalt thou bear false witness against thy neighbour.

    21Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's."





    And at the same time it is wrongful to say that it was The LORD Who made the Heaven and the Earth.


    Genesis 1:1-5 "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."
     
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    Pillar of fire = nuke? Maybe that would improve things. Particularly cities like Seattle and San Francisco! Cleansing fire from on high!
     
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    So after consciousness reappears to be able to be conscientious and after cognizance reappears, remembering these can help in getting the 'sanity' bearings straightened out again..


    Noone is 'INfallible'. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone learns from the mistakes IF it is their choosing to do so...


    But like I said... for me it is best when consciousness to the level of being able to be conscientious and with cognizance... then I can put forth my hand and receive and place within my bosom to be as 'faith'; more precious than pure gold.


    That choice is up to me.. I don't 'Have To' receive the learning.. I can leave it behind and live with whatever 'learning' I received and accepted for my self... And this is true to every aspect of living..in matters pertaining to religion or faith or not..
     
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    Exodus 22:28 "Thou shalt not revile the gods, nor curse the ruler of thy people."


    plural in number. a. rulers, judges, either as divine representatives at sacred places or as reflecting divine majesty and power:


    779. arar
    verb curse (Assyrian arâru ZimBP 68; on relation of meanings bind & curse in Assyrian
    cursers of the day


    revile:
    7043. qalal
    to be slight, swift or trifling
    trifling, i.e. of little account., of person,
    be lightly esteemed



    do not hold the 'gods' / plural in number. a. rulers, judges, either as divine representatives at sacred places or as reflecting divine majesty and power:
    slightly; lightly esteemed; as of little account.


    nor curse/bring into a 'cursed' condition, the rulers of your people.



    Supreme Court Justices would be considered as 'gods'... Those in the other branches might be considered 'rulers'.



    curse: Threatening the President of the United States is a federal felony under United States Code Title 18, Section 871. It consists of knowingly and willfully mailing or otherwise making "any threat to take the life of, to kidnap, or to inflict bodily harm upon the President of the United States".

    Threatening the President of the United States - Wikipedia

     
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    Illegality...

    it is been fought for since the first time... the induction to the Union.. Although inducted with illegalities, the fight has continued till this day. It is not about the 'fact', per se, but more about not correcting the wrongs of the illegality. Still to this day, being fought to bring some kind of 'factual' retribution. Although the acceptance that illegality was more than not, illegal matters of different sorts are the same.

    Those fights or those 'covered-over', those 'illegalities', can live as dead for long long times..


    But for those 'other' laws of which legal and illegal can be weighed with. Without those 'weights'; those 'points', illegal and legal are only as 'good' as those laws and law keepers that lived in the times of Sister City Sodom and Sister City Gomorrah.


    (I)sa(i)ah: 1:9 "Except the LORD of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah."



    sodom: as proverbial for open sin

    gomorrah: live, live long; also worship;
    proposes meaning worshipper,
    worshipper of
    against him
    who compare meaning
    live, life.



    Genesis 6:1 "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,"

    6:3 "And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years."

    (for although he is man, he goeth after the the same of his own flesh; yet do they not know that they only have 120 years of life)?

    6:5 "And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually."
     
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    Genesis 6:2 "That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose."



    And the sons of Cain, whom God had 'sent' away, began seeing the daughters of Adam, that they were fair. And they went and took them as wives... of all which they chose...


    Genesis 6:6 "And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart."


    Genesis 6:8 "But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD."


    Genesis 6:13 "And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth."


    (the earth is filled with violence through them; both the sons of Cain and the sons of Adam)... and behold, ...


    Genesis 6:11-12 "The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. 12And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth."



    flesh, not only of humans, but the 'flesh' only of 'man'.



    2145. zakar
    zakar: male

    boy (2), intimately* (3), male (56), males (19), man (4).

    male organ;
    call upon in worship; hence male as competent to worship) — always absolute

    substantive male, offspring of men and animals

    2142. zakar
    remember
    been mindful (1), boast (1), bring my to remembrance (1), bringing to mind (1), brings to remembrance (1), burns (1), call to mind (1), celebrate (1), certainly still remember (1), come to remembrance (1),


    Ezra 8:8 "And of the sons of Shephatiah; Zebadiah the son of Michael, and with him fourscore males."


    and with him... 80 males... 'zakar'..



    Quis ut Deus?, a Latin sentence meaning "Who [is] like God?", is a literal translation of the name Michael.


    Boasting... 'Who'??? Who is like....

    called upon ... call upon in worship; hence male as competent to worship) — always absolute

    for rites of 'worship', even??
     
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    In later Christian tradition, Jezebel was associated with false prophets.[5] In some interpretations of the Biblical narrative, her dressing in finery and putting on makeup[6] led to the association of the use of cosmetics with "painted women" or prostitutes.

    The Oxford Guide to People & Places of the Bible states that the name is "best understood as meaning 'Where is the Prince?'"

    She is introduced into the Biblical narrative as a Phoenician princess, the daughter of Ithobaal I, king of Tyre (1 Kings 16:31 says she was "Sidonian", which is a biblical term for Phoenicians in general).

    Jezebel - Wikipedia

    Tyre, sometimes romanized as Sour, is a district capital in the South Governorate of Lebanon.
    Tyre is an ancient Phoenician city and the legendary birthplace of Europa and Dido (Elissa).

    Tyre, Lebanon - Wikipedia


    Dido was, according to ancient Greek and Roman sources, the founder and first queen of Carthage. She is primarily known from the account given by the Roman poet Virgil in his epic, Aeneid. In some sources she is also known as Elissa

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    Carthage
    was the center or capital city of the ancient Carthaginian civilization, on the eastern side of the Lake of Tunis in what is now the Tunis Governorate in Tunisia. Carthage was widely considered the most important trading hub of the Ancient Mediterranean and was arguably one of the most affluent cities of the Ancient World.

    Carthage - Wikipedia



    Revelation 2:20 "Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols."
     
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    The Song written about Solomon...


    Song of Solomon 1:

    The Bride Confesses Her Love

    (Ephesians 5:22-33; 1 Peter 3:1-7)

    1The song of songs, which is Solomon's.

    2Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth: for thy love is better than wine.

    3Because of the savour of thy good ointments thy name is as ointment poured forth, therefore do the virgins love thee.

    The Friends

    4Draw me, we will run after thee: the king hath brought me into his chambers: we will be glad and rejoice in thee, we will remember thy love more than wine: the upright love thee.

    The Bride

    5I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

    6Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me: my mother's children were angry with me; they made me the keeper of the vineyards; but mine own vineyard have I not kept.

    7Tell me, O thou whom my soul loveth, where thou feedest, where thou makest thy flock to rest at noon: for why should I be as one that turneth aside by the flocks of thy companions?



    Let him kiss me with his lips.. but your love is better than wine..
    Virgins run to him
    draw us into thy chambers where we are free from the sexual advancements being as 'concubines'; non sexual.. we will free ourselves from that love better than wine and look to your 'love'. The upright love thee.

    I'm black. Oh daughters of (J)erusalem.

    But to whom doth my soul loveth? Whom feedest, making thy flocks to rest at noon? Why should I be turned aside?



    Solomon was a son of David, son of Jesse, and son of Bathsheba, wife of Uriah, the Hittite.


    • The Hittites were an ancient Anatolian (modern-day Turkey) people who formed an empire between 1600-1180 BCE.
    • The Hittites manufactured advanced iron goods, ruled over their kingdom through government officials with independent authority over various branches of government, and worshipped storm gods.
    • The Hittites’ ongoing conflicts with Egypt produced the world’s first known peace treaty.
    The Hittites were an ancient group of Indo-Europeans who moved into Asian Minor and formed an empire at Hattusa in Anatolia (modern Turkey) around 1600 BCE.

    The Hittites and Ancient Anatolia
     
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    Song of Solomon 1:8 "If thou know not, O thou fairest among women, go thy way forth by the footsteps of the flock, and feed thy kids beside the shepherds' tents."


    If thou do not know... o thou fairest of women... go thy way... by the way of the footsteps of the flock... and feed thy children besides the shepherds' tents..



    Remember though:

    Ecclesiastes 1:

    One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.

    5The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.

    6The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.


    Ecclesiastes 2:
    24There is nothing better for a man, than that he should eat and drink, and that he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour. This also I saw, that it was from the hand of God.

    Ecclesiastes 3:

    I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life. 13And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God. 14I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him. 15That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.


    Ecclesiastes 4:
    Better is a poor and a wise child than an old and foolish king, who will no more be admonished.
     
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