Wow, Putin Was Told He Will Pay A Severe Price If He Uses Chemical Weapons!

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The White House is not responding in a manner that optimally protects the American people's interests in regards to Vladimir Putin's possibility of using Chemical weapons in Ukraine if the U.S. intelligence is credible that this is a real option Putin is considering. The White House has to create clearly compelling deterrents for Putin not to use these weapons because if he can do it and be okay than other abusive, authoritarian and criminal leaders and groups will follow because Chemical and Biological weapons are much easier to get their hands on for such entities than nuclear weapons. Like for nuclear weapons you need nuclear material which is extremely hard to get than you need centrifuges also very difficult to get to turn the nuclear material into the purity necessary for a nuclear weapons and the technology to put it in a bomb form; it is a billion plus dollar endeavor plus you need uniquely qualified scientists to build the weapon for you who are hard to find. But chemical weapons are a hundred time easier to get one's hands on. Mustard gas has been around since World War I and it is simply made by combing chemicals two ways, treating ethylene with sulfur chloride or by treating dihydroxyethyl sulfide with HCL gas. Sarin gas has been around since World War II and is merely a combination of organophosphorus, a component of many pesticides and rubbing alcohol. Anthrax a biological weapon Americans are familiar with from the time period around 9-11, it is essentially a bacteria that is readily found in the world and the bacteria can be grown and processed in a lab to the needed purity. If bad individuals and groups are to a significant degree permitted to use chemical and biological weapons the world is in danger of having large numbers of people killed and subject to living under brutal authoritarian governments.

It is not sufficient that President Biden says Russia will pay a "severe" price if they used chemical weapons in Ukraine which he said today in a response to a reporter's question; didn't he say something like that if Russia invaded Ukraine, and it certainly has not stopped Putin as the world sees the Russian President is on an ongoing daily basis systematically destroying the country with the use of bombs. President Joseph Biden should draw a red line with Putin here and commit to change the game for him in Ukraine if he crosses it. Biden should let him know that if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine at a significant level (you cannot just say any use because he is such an evil man he will technically trigger a reaction with a small violation that will make you look like you overreacted if you act) he will advocate that NATO establish a no-fly zone in Ukraine and if Nato doesn't agree he will be open to doing it alone if the U.S. Congress passes a resolution authorizing such and for this No-fly zone America's air power will take out Russia's SAM sites in Russia along its border and any other sites that threaten allied planes in Ukraine and for Russian airfields that send Russian combat planes into Ukraine in violation of the no-fly zone, the U.S. will have those airfields bombed and taken out of commission! Further President Biden should publicly tell President Vladimir Putin that if Mr. Putin wants to escalate this conflict further and turn it nuclear that the United States is prepared and will match his use of nuclear weapons and if he wants to worsen the level of the ensuing war and make it a large-scale Nuclear War that threatens human civilization on the planet the United States will go there the United States is prepared and committed to match his use of nuclear weapons wherever it goes. The consequences for Russia using chemical weapons in Ukraine will be grave and devastating for Russia militarily in Ukraine and that is non-negotiable, President Biden should publicly make this clear to President Putin with the recitation of this specific list of consequences!

It was at least not largely commented on in the media but it definitely deserves being commented on that President Putin today approved the Russian military sending up to sixteen thousand mercenary fighters from the Middle East who for the most part would come from Bashar Assad's side in Syrian War of Rebellion the side that committed war crimes galore to help the Russian War effort in Ukraine. This is the stomach turning part of the plan he is not sending these mercenary fighters to the Russian front line of Kyiv or Kharkiv to help Russia take these cities, Putin is sending these mercenaries to work with the separatist fighters in Donetsk and Luhansk and you know why there was no insurgency in these separatist region over the last eight years because the separatist security, they don't even deserve to be called fighters would kill the Ukrainian citizens that challenged their authority or put them in prison and tortured them until they were physically and/or psychologically broken so they would not be uncooperative. Putin's intentions are clear the separatists security apparatus will grow and expand throughout eastern Ukraine to the Russian occupied areas of Ukraine and this apparatus with the help of these mercenary thugs will just kill, beat and abuse those Ukrainians that challenge Russian Authority.
The foundation is now being laid for a large scale campaign to brutally subdue Ukrainians in the Russian occupied areas, the world should recognize this!

Yesterday or the day before a person in the Biden administrating bolstered the administration's position on rejecting the idea to play the "hand off to Ukraine" role for the two dozen MiG's Poland could give Ukraine by saying the Ukraine air force is not fully using the combat planes it has in its war against Russia. One would have to think the only reason that the Polish Generals are not fully using these resources is because of Russia has robust air defense systems in Ukraine protecting Russian combat troops assaulting Ukrainian cities and would readily shoot Ukraine combat planes down trying to help the embattled Ukrainian fighters in those cities making it nonsensical to put a lot of Ukraine combat planes into the fight. The United States with its amazing satellite technology should make it the highest priority locating these Russian air defense systems for the Ukrainian military and relaying this intelligence to the Ukrainians so the Generals in charge of Ukrainian combat forces can make it the highest priority trying to remove these systems from the battlefield. As more and more scenes come out of things like the Russia bombing of the women's and children's hospital in Mariupol the world public is going to want the Ukranian government to be given the means to stop this completely illegitimate bombing of civilians and there will be persuasive pressure brought to bear to do things like get the Polish MiGs to the Ukraine military but steps like this won't make a difference for good unless the Russian air defense systems on the ground are degraded!
 
I mean really folks, is the rest of the world going to buy into the accusation of Putin using Ukraine's/America's chem/bio weapons on the Ukrainian people?

This already smells just like the 'incubator babies' left to die on the cold concrete floor!

And hey, if Ukraine/America produced the WMD's this time, they can't really go missing in Syria!
 
Truth is the first victim of war.

Let me sum up what is going on:

Everything Ukraine says is the truth, everything Russia says is a falsehood.
 
The White House is not responding in a manner that optimally protects the American people's interests in regards to Vladimir Putin's possibility of using Chemical weapons in Ukraine if the U.S. intelligence is credible that this is a real option Putin is considering. The White House has to create clearly compelling deterrents for Putin not to use these weapons because if he can do it and be okay than other abusive, authoritarian and criminal leaders and groups will follow because Chemical and Biological weapons are much easier to get their hands on for such entities than nuclear weapons. Like for nuclear weapons you need nuclear material which is extremely hard to get than you need centrifuges also very difficult to get to turn the nuclear material into the purity necessary for a nuclear weapons and the technology to put it in a bomb form; it is a billion plus dollar endeavor plus you need uniquely qualified scientists to build the weapon for you who are hard to find. But chemical weapons are a hundred time easier to get one's hands on. Mustard gas has been around since World War I and it is simply made by combing chemicals two ways, treating ethylene with sulfur chloride or by treating dihydroxyethyl sulfide with HCL gas. Sarin gas has been around since World War II and is merely a combination of organophosphorus, a component of many pesticides and rubbing alcohol. Anthrax a biological weapon Americans are familiar with from the time period around 9-11, it is essentially a bacteria that is readily found in the world and the bacteria can be grown and processed in a lab to the needed purity. If bad individuals and groups are to a significant degree permitted to use chemical and biological weapons the world is in danger of having large numbers of people killed and subject to living under brutal authoritarian governments.

It is not sufficient that President Biden says Russia will pay a "severe" price if they used chemical weapons in Ukraine which he said today in a response to a reporter's question; didn't he say something like that if Russia invaded Ukraine, and it certainly has not stopped Putin as the world sees the Russian President is on an ongoing daily basis systematically destroying the country with the use of bombs. President Joseph Biden should draw a red line with Putin here and commit to change the game for him in Ukraine if he crosses it. Biden should let him know that if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine at a significant level (you cannot just say any use because he is such an evil man he will technically trigger a reaction with a small violation that will make you look like you overreacted if you act) he will advocate that NATO establish a no-fly zone in Ukraine and if Nato doesn't agree he will be open to doing it alone if the U.S. Congress passes a resolution authorizing such and for this No-fly zone America's air power will take out Russia's SAM sites in Russia along its border and any other sites that threaten allied planes in Ukraine and for Russian airfields that send Russian combat planes into Ukraine in violation of the no-fly zone, the U.S. will have those airfields bombed and taken out of commission! Further President Biden should publicly tell President Vladimir Putin that if Mr. Putin wants to escalate this conflict further and turn it nuclear that the United States is prepared and will match his use of nuclear weapons and if he wants to worsen the level of the ensuing war and make it a large-scale Nuclear War that threatens human civilization on the planet the United States will go there the United States is prepared and committed to match his use of nuclear weapons wherever it goes. The consequences for Russia using chemical weapons in Ukraine will be grave and devastating for Russia militarily in Ukraine and that is non-negotiable, President Biden should publicly make this clear to President Putin with the recitation of this specific list of consequences!

It was at least not largely commented on in the media but it definitely deserves being commented on that President Putin today approved the Russian military sending up to sixteen thousand mercenary fighters from the Middle East who for the most part would come from Bashar Assad's side in Syrian War of Rebellion the side that committed war crimes galore to help the Russian War effort in Ukraine. This is the stomach turning part of the plan he is not sending these mercenary fighters to the Russian front line of Kyiv or Kharkiv to help Russia take these cities, Putin is sending these mercenaries to work with the separatist fighters in Donetsk and Luhansk and you know why there was no insurgency in these separatist region over the last eight years because the separatist security, they don't even deserve to be called fighters would kill the Ukrainian citizens that challenged their authority or put them in prison and tortured them until they were physically and/or psychologically broken so they would not be uncooperative. Putin's intentions are clear the separatists security apparatus will grow and expand throughout eastern Ukraine to the Russian occupied areas of Ukraine and this apparatus with the help of these mercenary thugs will just kill, beat and abuse those Ukrainians that challenge Russian Authority.
The foundation is now being laid for a large scale campaign to brutally subdue Ukrainians in the Russian occupied areas, the world should recognize this!

Yesterday or the day before a person in the Biden administrating bolstered the administration's position on rejecting the idea to play the "hand off to Ukraine" role for the two dozen MiG's Poland could give Ukraine by saying the Ukraine air force is not fully using the combat planes it has in its war against Russia. One would have to think the only reason that the Polish Generals are not fully using these resources is because of Russia has robust air defense systems in Ukraine protecting Russian combat troops assaulting Ukrainian cities and would readily shoot Ukraine combat planes down trying to help the embattled Ukrainian fighters in those cities making it nonsensical to put a lot of Ukraine combat planes into the fight. The United States with its amazing satellite technology should make it the highest priority locating these Russian air defense systems for the Ukrainian military and relaying this intelligence to the Ukrainians so the Generals in charge of Ukrainian combat forces can make it the highest priority trying to remove these systems from the battlefield. As more and more scenes come out of things like the Russia bombing of the women's and children's hospital in Mariupol the world public is going to want the Ukranian government to be given the means to stop this completely illegitimate bombing of civilians and there will be persuasive pressure brought to bear to do things like get the Polish MiGs to the Ukraine military but steps like this won't make a difference for good unless the Russian air defense systems on the ground are degraded!

We've seen this movie before, it's the one where Obama said the same thing to Assad, then rolled over like a little bitch when Assad told him to fuck off.
 
The United States is preparing a provocation with chemical weapons in Ukraine. This is already clear as day – the American press has begun to prepare the public for the fact that it is Russia that will arrange such a provocation. The old tricks are the most reliable.

FNoFdKPX0AE2ssP
 
Truth is the first victim of war.

Let me sum up what is going on:

Everything Ukraine says is the truth, everything Russia says is a falsehood.
Ukraine...home of the dodgey dossier....has taken first place away from Russia for being the world capital of Bullshit in spades..... Ukraine is the love child of NATO and the CIA.... Geeeeezus....take about having two alcoholic parents....is there any wonder about the kid?

JO
 
I mean really folks, is the rest of the world going to buy into the accusation of Putin using Ukraine's/America's chem/bio weapons on the Ukrainian people?
Not even sure what that's supposed to mean. The reality is that IF he uses them, it isn't really going to matter who believes WHAT. Biden may be setting the stage for us to enter that conflict and IMO, that's INSANE.
 
The United States is preparing a provocation with chemical weapons in Ukraine. This is already clear as day –
That right, is it? And what, exactly, would be the benefit for America? Are you really so wacked out that you believe we WANT to risk nuclear war to defeat Putin? Seriously... if we see piles of dead Ukrainians and obvious evidence of chlorine or some other chemical agent do you think we would attack Russian troops? Do you think NATO would storm in and risk nukes being used?
 
The White House is not responding in a manner that optimally protects the American people's interests in regards to Vladimir Putin's possibility of using Chemical weapons in Ukraine if the U.S. intelligence is credible that this is a real option Putin is considering. The White House has to create clearly compelling deterrents for Putin not to use these weapons because if he can do it and be okay than other abusive, authoritarian and criminal leaders and groups will follow because Chemical and Biological weapons are much easier to get their hands on for such entities than nuclear weapons. Like for nuclear weapons you need nuclear material which is extremely hard to get than you need centrifuges also very difficult to get to turn the nuclear material into the purity necessary for a nuclear weapons and the technology to put it in a bomb form; it is a billion plus dollar endeavor plus you need uniquely qualified scientists to build the weapon for you who are hard to find. But chemical weapons are a hundred time easier to get one's hands on. Mustard gas has been around since World War I and it is simply made by combing chemicals two ways, treating ethylene with sulfur chloride or by treating dihydroxyethyl sulfide with HCL gas. Sarin gas has been around since World War II and is merely a combination of organophosphorus, a component of many pesticides and rubbing alcohol. Anthrax a biological weapon Americans are familiar with from the time period around 9-11, it is essentially a bacteria that is readily found in the world and the bacteria can be grown and processed in a lab to the needed purity. If bad individuals and groups are to a significant degree permitted to use chemical and biological weapons the world is in danger of having large numbers of people killed and subject to living under brutal authoritarian governments.

It is not sufficient that President Biden says Russia will pay a "severe" price if they used chemical weapons in Ukraine which he said today in a response to a reporter's question; didn't he say something like that if Russia invaded Ukraine, and it certainly has not stopped Putin as the world sees the Russian President is on an ongoing daily basis systematically destroying the country with the use of bombs. President Joseph Biden should draw a red line with Putin here and commit to change the game for him in Ukraine if he crosses it. Biden should let him know that if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine at a significant level (you cannot just say any use because he is such an evil man he will technically trigger a reaction with a small violation that will make you look like you overreacted if you act) he will advocate that NATO establish a no-fly zone in Ukraine and if Nato doesn't agree he will be open to doing it alone if the U.S. Congress passes a resolution authorizing such and for this No-fly zone America's air power will take out Russia's SAM sites in Russia along its border and any other sites that threaten allied planes in Ukraine and for Russian airfields that send Russian combat planes into Ukraine in violation of the no-fly zone, the U.S. will have those airfields bombed and taken out of commission! Further President Biden should publicly tell President Vladimir Putin that if Mr. Putin wants to escalate this conflict further and turn it nuclear that the United States is prepared and will match his use of nuclear weapons and if he wants to worsen the level of the ensuing war and make it a large-scale Nuclear War that threatens human civilization on the planet the United States will go there the United States is prepared and committed to match his use of nuclear weapons wherever it goes. The consequences for Russia using chemical weapons in Ukraine will be grave and devastating for Russia militarily in Ukraine and that is non-negotiable, President Biden should publicly make this clear to President Putin with the recitation of this specific list of consequences!

It was at least not largely commented on in the media but it definitely deserves being commented on that President Putin today approved the Russian military sending up to sixteen thousand mercenary fighters from the Middle East who for the most part would come from Bashar Assad's side in Syrian War of Rebellion the side that committed war crimes galore to help the Russian War effort in Ukraine. This is the stomach turning part of the plan he is not sending these mercenary fighters to the Russian front line of Kyiv or Kharkiv to help Russia take these cities, Putin is sending these mercenaries to work with the separatist fighters in Donetsk and Luhansk and you know why there was no insurgency in these separatist region over the last eight years because the separatist security, they don't even deserve to be called fighters would kill the Ukrainian citizens that challenged their authority or put them in prison and tortured them until they were physically and/or psychologically broken so they would not be uncooperative. Putin's intentions are clear the separatists security apparatus will grow and expand throughout eastern Ukraine to the Russian occupied areas of Ukraine and this apparatus with the help of these mercenary thugs will just kill, beat and abuse those Ukrainians that challenge Russian Authority.
The foundation is now being laid for a large scale campaign to brutally subdue Ukrainians in the Russian occupied areas, the world should recognize this!

Yesterday or the day before a person in the Biden administrating bolstered the administration's position on rejecting the idea to play the "hand off to Ukraine" role for the two dozen MiG's Poland could give Ukraine by saying the Ukraine air force is not fully using the combat planes it has in its war against Russia. One would have to think the only reason that the Polish Generals are not fully using these resources is because of Russia has robust air defense systems in Ukraine protecting Russian combat troops assaulting Ukrainian cities and would readily shoot Ukraine combat planes down trying to help the embattled Ukrainian fighters in those cities making it nonsensical to put a lot of Ukraine combat planes into the fight. The United States with its amazing satellite technology should make it the highest priority locating these Russian air defense systems for the Ukrainian military and relaying this intelligence to the Ukrainians so the Generals in charge of Ukrainian combat forces can make it the highest priority trying to remove these systems from the battlefield. As more and more scenes come out of things like the Russia bombing of the women's and children's hospital in Mariupol the world public is going to want the Ukranian government to be given the means to stop this completely illegitimate bombing of civilians and there will be persuasive pressure brought to bear to do things like get the Polish MiGs to the Ukraine military but steps like this won't make a difference for good unless the Russian air defense systems on the ground are degraded!
It's ok to invade another lands targeting children for slaughter with regular missiles but you don't dare use chemical weapons to kill people.

Geesh---lib logic gives me headaches.

This said. IN syria with Obama's redline bullshit---the use of chemical weapons was supposed to be used as the trigger to go help the sunni muslim terrorists which includes al queda and ISIS and el nursa and shit load of other terror groups (saud toadies) take alawit mulsim Assad. Thing is that the terrorists were known to repeatedly use chemicals weapons on the areas that they controlled trying to give Obama an excuse to get in and help them annihilate and extreminate all the alawits and their various miniority religions that they protected including christians and jews.

FBI/CIA Biden/Obama/Clinton all played games and staged their red line bullshit------even if Russia doesn't use any chemical weapons, if they want in (depending on who is bribing them at this point) they will simply stage another fake chemical weapons attack.
 
Sounds like the West is working it's way up to using chemical weapons to frame him.

"спасибо за предупреждение, дебилы!"

("Thanks for the warning, morons!" in Russian.)
 
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The White House is not responding in a manner that optimally protects the American people's interests in regards to Vladimir Putin's possibility of using Chemical weapons in Ukraine if the U.S. intelligence is credible that this is a real option Putin is considering. The White House has to create clearly compelling deterrents for Putin not to use these weapons because if he can do it and be okay than other abusive, authoritarian and criminal leaders and groups will follow because Chemical and Biological weapons are much easier to get their hands on for such entities than nuclear weapons. Like for nuclear weapons you need nuclear material which is extremely hard to get than you need centrifuges also very difficult to get to turn the nuclear material into the purity necessary for a nuclear weapons and the technology to put it in a bomb form; it is a billion plus dollar endeavor plus you need uniquely qualified scientists to build the weapon for you who are hard to find. But chemical weapons are a hundred time easier to get one's hands on. Mustard gas has been around since World War I and it is simply made by combing chemicals two ways, treating ethylene with sulfur chloride or by treating dihydroxyethyl sulfide with HCL gas. Sarin gas has been around since World War II and is merely a combination of organophosphorus, a component of many pesticides and rubbing alcohol. Anthrax a biological weapon Americans are familiar with from the time period around 9-11, it is essentially a bacteria that is readily found in the world and the bacteria can be grown and processed in a lab to the needed purity. If bad individuals and groups are to a significant degree permitted to use chemical and biological weapons the world is in danger of having large numbers of people killed and subject to living under brutal authoritarian governments.

It is not sufficient that President Biden says Russia will pay a "severe" price if they used chemical weapons in Ukraine which he said today in a response to a reporter's question; didn't he say something like that if Russia invaded Ukraine, and it certainly has not stopped Putin as the world sees the Russian President is on an ongoing daily basis systematically destroying the country with the use of bombs. President Joseph Biden should draw a red line with Putin here and commit to change the game for him in Ukraine if he crosses it. Biden should let him know that if he uses chemical weapons in Ukraine at a significant level (you cannot just say any use because he is such an evil man he will technically trigger a reaction with a small violation that will make you look like you overreacted if you act) he will advocate that NATO establish a no-fly zone in Ukraine and if Nato doesn't agree he will be open to doing it alone if the U.S. Congress passes a resolution authorizing such and for this No-fly zone America's air power will take out Russia's SAM sites in Russia along its border and any other sites that threaten allied planes in Ukraine and for Russian airfields that send Russian combat planes into Ukraine in violation of the no-fly zone, the U.S. will have those airfields bombed and taken out of commission! Further President Biden should publicly tell President Vladimir Putin that if Mr. Putin wants to escalate this conflict further and turn it nuclear that the United States is prepared and will match his use of nuclear weapons and if he wants to worsen the level of the ensuing war and make it a large-scale Nuclear War that threatens human civilization on the planet the United States will go there the United States is prepared and committed to match his use of nuclear weapons wherever it goes. The consequences for Russia using chemical weapons in Ukraine will be grave and devastating for Russia militarily in Ukraine and that is non-negotiable, President Biden should publicly make this clear to President Putin with the recitation of this specific list of consequences!

It was at least not largely commented on in the media but it definitely deserves being commented on that President Putin today approved the Russian military sending up to sixteen thousand mercenary fighters from the Middle East who for the most part would come from Bashar Assad's side in Syrian War of Rebellion the side that committed war crimes galore to help the Russian War effort in Ukraine. This is the stomach turning part of the plan he is not sending these mercenary fighters to the Russian front line of Kyiv or Kharkiv to help Russia take these cities, Putin is sending these mercenaries to work with the separatist fighters in Donetsk and Luhansk and you know why there was no insurgency in these separatist region over the last eight years because the separatist security, they don't even deserve to be called fighters would kill the Ukrainian citizens that challenged their authority or put them in prison and tortured them until they were physically and/or psychologically broken so they would not be uncooperative. Putin's intentions are clear the separatists security apparatus will grow and expand throughout eastern Ukraine to the Russian occupied areas of Ukraine and this apparatus with the help of these mercenary thugs will just kill, beat and abuse those Ukrainians that challenge Russian Authority.
The foundation is now being laid for a large scale campaign to brutally subdue Ukrainians in the Russian occupied areas, the world should recognize this!

Yesterday or the day before a person in the Biden administrating bolstered the administration's position on rejecting the idea to play the "hand off to Ukraine" role for the two dozen MiG's Poland could give Ukraine by saying the Ukraine air force is not fully using the combat planes it has in its war against Russia. One would have to think the only reason that the Polish Generals are not fully using these resources is because of Russia has robust air defense systems in Ukraine protecting Russian combat troops assaulting Ukrainian cities and would readily shoot Ukraine combat planes down trying to help the embattled Ukrainian fighters in those cities making it nonsensical to put a lot of Ukraine combat planes into the fight. The United States with its amazing satellite technology should make it the highest priority locating these Russian air defense systems for the Ukrainian military and relaying this intelligence to the Ukrainians so the Generals in charge of Ukrainian combat forces can make it the highest priority trying to remove these systems from the battlefield. As more and more scenes come out of things like the Russia bombing of the women's and children's hospital in Mariupol the world public is going to want the Ukranian government to be given the means to stop this completely illegitimate bombing of civilians and there will be persuasive pressure brought to bear to do things like get the Polish MiGs to the Ukraine military but steps like this won't make a difference for good unless the Russian air defense systems on the ground are degraded!

The false flag action is coming
 

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